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Topic: [ BOXING ]: Fury vs Wilder III in Las Vegas on 18th July 2020 !!! - page 10. (Read 6747 times)

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I'm going to be very nervous prior to the fight, but at the moment I couldn't be more confident that Fury will do what he did the second time around. I've always thought that Wilder has a god complex, and I just don't trust him to look at himself, and actually be critical about his ability, and therefore make the necessary changes.

If Wilder comes in with the same game plan, Fury will just pressure him like the last time it was pretty clear to everyone that night, Wilder doesn't like pressure, and he definitely can't fight off the back foot. He needs his opponents to be in front of him, so he can line up that power shot, if they are constantly attacking it really does expose his limitations as a boxer.
Changes should be made if he do like to win up against Fury because those past fighting strategy or style wouldnt work anymore on this trilogy.The outcome would  really be just the same.

I'm not sure if that will work with Wilder, I mean he has been knocking his opponent out, he will still rely to that power. Not seeing him being a technical boxer and it's hard to adjust. You can't teach a old new a new trick.

He would need not to be that boastful or too confident with his ability on those power punches because technicality would really be also needed and if he misses that then Fury would
just simply do the same on that previous fight and would end up on the same scenario. Adjustment should be made.

He got Fury in the first fight, last round, but Fury was able to get up. In the second fight, it was a different Wilder and we all know how many excuses he said after that lost. I would say that he should cover up more though, and not to get tag and then throw that bombs.
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I'm going to be very nervous prior to the fight, but at the moment I couldn't be more confident that Fury will do what he did the second time around. I've always thought that Wilder has a god complex, and I just don't trust him to look at himself, and actually be critical about his ability, and therefore make the necessary changes.

If Wilder comes in with the same game plan, Fury will just pressure him like the last time it was pretty clear to everyone that night, Wilder doesn't like pressure, and he definitely can't fight off the back foot. He needs his opponents to be in front of him, so he can line up that power shot, if they are constantly attacking it really does expose his limitations as a boxer.
Changes should be made if he do like to win up against Fury because those past fighting strategy or style wouldnt work anymore on this trilogy.The outcome would  really be just the same.

He would need not to be that boastful or too confident with his ability on those power punches because technicality would really be also needed and if he misses that then Fury would
just simply do the same on that previous fight and would end up on the same scenario. Adjustment should be made.
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I'm going to be very nervous prior to the fight, but at the moment I couldn't be more confident that Fury will do what he did the second time around. I've always thought that Wilder has a god complex, and I just don't trust him to look at himself, and actually be critical about his ability, and therefore make the necessary changes.

If Wilder comes in with the same game plan, Fury will just pressure him like the last time it was pretty clear to everyone that night, Wilder doesn't like pressure, and he definitely can't fight off the back foot. He needs his opponents to be in front of him, so he can line up that power shot, if they are constantly attacking it really does expose his limitations as a boxer.
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Lets imagine Wilder looses - will he retire after two straight losses or no?


knowing wilder? why would there be a retirement issue even if he losses 2 consecutive fights when he is confident about his skills.

wilder is one of the most promising boxer to reign now as Manny pacquiao has already retired.

with other boxers to claim to become one of the most remembered boxer , it is him who will be on the list so he will not consider retiring this soon.
I dont see thats the case for him to be the next sensation or the idol on this boxing world whenever he would make another loss then people would lost up interest and of course people had
already the glimpse or the idea on how Wilder behaves whenever he losses and that thing is never been an appealing thing and i dont see for him to be the next one to
go in the path on what Pacquiao had able to reach out.I do see several boxers which are more better than Wilder itself.
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Let's look at the current odds ML at sportsbet.

Fury at 1.29, Wilder at 3.25 - Good and very attractive odds for Wilder, specially for those who love to go with the underdog.

Now, looking at the handicap per rounds, Over 7.5 - 1.82, Under 7.5 1.96. Might be tempted to bet on the over here.

And as for the "fight will go to the distance" - Yes 2.85, No 1.37.

Very interesting odds for a win of Wilder indeed, i mean he has time and time proven again that he can knock out everyone with a single punch and he even almost got Fury knocked out too in their first match but people seem to have forgotten the first fight and only remember their last fight where Fury was extremely dominant. I still think though that fury is the favorite here, because he is just the way more skillful boxer of the two. Wilder has probably the hardest punch in boxing but he is very limited technically.
The issue is that there were some very specific circumstances during that first fight, Fury was out of shape after being out of boxing for so long and even then most people saw Fury win that fight, even if Wilder sill was able to put him down during the fight.

However the domination during the second fight was so absolute that people do not really think Wilder can do something about it, Fury is back not only in physical shape but also on his boxing shape, he is bigger and heavier and it is the best technical boxer while his stamina was better as well, the only thing in favor of Wilder was his punching power and this was nullified during the second fight.
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Ok, he wont retire, but the dawn of career will start after his second loss. Who should he fight next then? I don't believe that there will be a fourth fight with Fury. I can predict that he will have few fights after this trilogy. Fights just to earn; they wont make him close to another title fight.

Deontay Wilder is already suffering from head problems. Something is already wrong with his mind.
The most interesting aspect of this fight is that, i am waiting to hear the entertaining excuses Wilder is going to come up with when he looses again, either he was training like a maniac to win the fight against Fury somehow and he has plenty of time to prepare and i am thinking what all adjustments he have done, he will be always banking on his power than boxing skills and if Fury is in his flow there is no way he will be able to land a punch.
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The odds for Fury (1.3 on Stake) is quite good IMO, well, if you are sure that Fury will beat Wilder. Let's say you play dice, 1.3 multiplier means 76.15% winning chance. I think the probability of Fury win is more than that. #FingersCrossed
I'm not so sure for the combo tho, perhaps round 7-9 or 10-12 for Fury as Wilder must put some fight since he's already 35 and will lose everything if Fury wins.
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I am so relieved that the hype between the fight of Fury vs Wilder is seriously off the roof. It reminds me of old school boxing where heavyweights were the kings back then. Of course, my vote goes to no other than the Gypsy King himself as he dismembered Wilder on their second game.

I expect nothing but greatness and explosiveness on their upcoming fight. If there is one fight that I would gamble majority of my resources, it would be on this fight for Fury. The head movement, agility, and flexibility has caught Wilder off-guard along with his one-punch power.
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80 votes in the poll so far

Fury: 63
Wilder: 16
Draw: 1



Fury has been the overwhelming favourite to win the fight and with just days to go before the fight takes place, the poll was never in danger of tilting in favour of Wilder.
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Please take note that Wilder has a new coach as well, so preparedness and training and strategy will be different against Fury in the trilogy. So maybe we can Wilder just taking it easy on the first couple of rounds and try to just weathered the storm early. So there's a big possibility that it could extend to 12 rounds but still Fury by split or unanimous decision. Unless Wilder can score points by slipping some of his power punches in the championship rounds.
Yes he has a new coach because he accused his other coach Breland to be working with Fury. The new coach does not mean he will get better it has been a year since the last fight right? I doubt that Wilder has improved much in his defence and Breland talked about how they would only train power because Wilder insisted that they do. I think Wilder has a issue with arrogance and he needs to remove that if he is ever to compete at the highest level again. I am betting on a Wilder knockout just because the odds are in favor of it but I cannot see him getting the knockout and Fury should win this and I think it will be similar to the 1st fight but Fury will make sure that he makes the early rounds to stop a bias American judge from deciding that Wilder won.
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Lets imagine Wilder looses - will he retire after two straight losses or no?


knowing wilder? why would there be a retirement issue even if he losses 2 consecutive fights when he is confident about his skills.

wilder is one of the most promising boxer to reign now as Manny pacquiao has already retired.

with other boxers to claim to become one of the most remembered boxer , it is him who will be on the list so he will not consider retiring this soon.
I agree with this. I don't think too that Wilder will retire if he will get his second loss against Fury.
Although we've seen some boxers who retired just after fighting a better opponent like Morales, Dela Hoya, Hatton when they fought Pacquiao, I don't think that this will be the case for Wilder.

Though it will have a huge impact with his career if he will loss 2 consecutive times against Fury. I think that he will lie-low and will fight another fighters and will redeem himself thru that.

He is not the only one who loses, he will come back for sure and might win again if he fights another fighter. Look at Joshua, he already loses twice in his career but he is still positive that he can come back, in fact, he is still a superstar in heavy weight division despite he was dominated by Usyk in the fight.

Let us not conclude yet, let's see the Trilogy and maybe we can see some big improvement from Wilder. 
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Lets imagine Wilder looses - will he retire after two straight losses or no?


knowing wilder? why would there be a retirement issue even if he losses 2 consecutive fights when he is confident about his skills.

wilder is one of the most promising boxer to reign now as Manny pacquiao has already retired.

with other boxers to claim to become one of the most remembered boxer , it is him who will be on the list so he will not consider retiring this soon.
I agree with this. I don't think too that Wilder will retire if he will get his second loss against Fury.
Although we've seen some boxers who retired just after fighting a better opponent like Morales, Dela Hoya, Hatton when they fought Pacquiao, I don't think that this will be the case for Wilder.

Though it will have a huge impact with his career if he will loss 2 consecutive times against Fury. I think that he will lie-low and will fight another fighters and will redeem himself thru that.
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If Fury does the same thing as the last time but still anticipates any changes in Wilder's fighting style, I am pretty sure that we're going to see this trilogy close with Fury as the winner.
Wilder did blame his costume, so I guess he will not change his style in boxing but will only wear a light costume so he will not be exhausted once in the ring. We saw the talent of Fury, if Wilder can't hit him, he would only loss his energy in the end and might likely suffer a defeat again as Fury has the power to KO him.

That would be a valid reason since we know how this heavyweight is prone to have less stamina than any other weight class in boxing. Anyway, that kind of reason is something educational because fighters who are in their weight class would not mimic what he did right there because obviously, whoever has less stamina before the fight will automatically be -50% on winning the fight.

Valid excuse and he really said that.
Deontay Wilder blames heavy costume for defeat by Tyson Fury in Las Vegas

Well, maybe let's take that as a reason and that's why he is given an opportunity to fight again Fury and for sure he would not do the same stupid mistake and will not make an excuse if he lose, he should man up here.
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If Fury does the same thing as the last time but still anticipates any changes in Wilder's fighting style, I am pretty sure that we're going to see this trilogy close with Fury as the winner.
Wilder did blame his costume, so I guess he will not change his style in boxing but will only wear a light costume so he will not be exhausted once in the ring. We saw the talent of Fury, if Wilder can't hit him, he would only loss his energy in the end and might likely suffer a defeat again as Fury has the power to KO him.

That would be a valid reason since we know how this heavyweight is prone to have less stamina than any other weight class in boxing. Anyway, that kind of reason is something educational because fighters who are in their weight class would not mimic what he did right there because obviously, whoever has less stamina before the fight will automatically be -50% on winning the fight.
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Let's look at the current odds ML at sportsbet.

Fury at 1.29, Wilder at 3.25 - Good and very attractive odds for Wilder, specially for those who love to go with the underdog.

Now, looking at the handicap per rounds, Over 7.5 - 1.82, Under 7.5 1.96. Might be tempted to bet on the over here.

And as for the "fight will go to the distance" - Yes 2.85, No 1.37.
The only chance Wilder has is by knockout that would be better odds then 3.25? I think the fight might go the distance this time Fury took Wilder by surprise last time because he came out very aggressive but Wilder will have been coached by his coaches to avoid that pressure and he should be better at managing the aggression of Fury if he can avoid the Fury the 1st 3 rounds I think Fury will then go back to boxing instead of going for the knockout and that is when Wilder can land that power shot again. I think Fury will be too much for Wilder again and Wilder probably has not learned enough in the year since the last fight but if the odds for a Wilder knock out are over 4.00 then I think it is worth putting a bet on he will always have a chance because of his power and he has already knocked Fury down who was close to missing the count in their 1st fight.

Please take note that Wilder has a new coach as well, so preparedness and training and strategy will be different against Fury in the trilogy. So maybe we can Wilder just taking it easy on the first couple of rounds and try to just weathered the storm early. So there's a big possibility that it could extend to 12 rounds but still Fury by split or unanimous decision. Unless Wilder can score points by slipping some of his power punches in the championship rounds.
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Wilder did blame his costume, so I guess he will not change his style in boxing but will only wear a light costume so he will not be exhausted once in the ring. We saw the talent of Fury, if Wilder can't hit him, he would only loss his energy in the end and might likely suffer a defeat again as Fury has the power to KO him.
I think it matters how Wilder has trained and if he has taken a serious approach to his weaknesses. I think people forget that the 1st fight was closer then the 2nd and Fury probably did win that 1st fight but he was against American judges. Fury will have to knockout Wilder if he is to win again because he will be judged by American judges again who will always favor Wilder. If Wilder can learn from his mistakes and manage the aggression of Fury with good foot movement and keep the rounds close he could win by a decision because of the judges but I think his most likely route of victory will be knockout because if he has not improved much his defence Fury will chase him down and knock him out or embarrass him for 12 rounds. My biggest doubt is that Wilder has learned anything from his last fight because as we know the excuses he made was embarrassing. I remember in the post fight press conference he said he wanted to go out on his shield like a warrior but then in the next couple of days made 6 excuses about why he did not win and that included accusing Fury of tampering with his gloves and spiking his drink. Wilder was delusional and I think it was desperation from him because before that he thought he was the best in the world. I cannot blame him if it was emotions that caused him to say those excuses but I know months after the fight he was still claiming Fury did all these things and his costume weighed him down. I am not confident that he has learned from his mistakes and adjusted the way he fights we could see another beat down from Fury.
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If Fury does the same thing as the last time but still anticipates any changes in Wilder's fighting style, I am pretty sure that we're going to see this trilogy close with Fury as the winner.
Wilder did blame his costume, so I guess he will not change his style in boxing but will only wear a light costume so he will not be exhausted once in the ring. We saw the talent of Fury, if Wilder can't hit him, he would only loss his energy in the end and might likely suffer a defeat again as Fury has the power to KO him.
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If Fury does the same thing as the last time but still anticipates any changes in Wilder's fighting style, I am pretty sure that we're going to see this trilogy close with Fury as the winner.
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Let's look at the current odds ML at sportsbet.

Fury at 1.29, Wilder at 3.25 - Good and very attractive odds for Wilder, specially for those who love to go with the underdog.

Now, looking at the handicap per rounds, Over 7.5 - 1.82, Under 7.5 1.96. Might be tempted to bet on the over here.

And as for the "fight will go to the distance" - Yes 2.85, No 1.37.
The only chance Wilder has is by knockout that would be better odds then 3.25? I think the fight might go the distance this time Fury took Wilder by surprise last time because he came out very aggressive but Wilder will have been coached by his coaches to avoid that pressure and he should be better at managing the aggression of Fury if he can avoid the Fury the 1st 3 rounds I think Fury will then go back to boxing instead of going for the knockout and that is when Wilder can land that power shot again. I think Fury will be too much for Wilder again and Wilder probably has not learned enough in the year since the last fight but if the odds for a Wilder knock out are over 4.00 then I think it is worth putting a bet on he will always have a chance because of his power and he has already knocked Fury down who was close to missing the count in their 1st fight.
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Lets imagine Wilder looses - will he retire after two straight losses or no?


knowing wilder? why would there be a retirement issue even if he losses 2 consecutive fights when he is confident about his skills.

wilder is one of the most promising boxer to reign now as Manny pacquiao has already retired.

with other boxers to claim to become one of the most remembered boxer , it is him who will be on the list so he will not consider retiring this soon.

Ok, he wont retire, but the dawn of career will start after his second loss. Who should he fight next then? I don't believe that there will be a fourth fight with Fury. I can predict that he will have few fights after this trilogy. Fights just to earn; they wont make him close to another title fight.

Deontay Wilder is already suffering from head problems. Something is already wrong with his mind. Check out this six ridiculous excuses for losing to Tyson Fury.

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