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Topic: [ BOXING FURY WON IN ROUND 6 ]: FURY vs WHYTE - THE FIGHT - page 4. (Read 1722 times)

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Yes he is definitely out of the country and preparing to face Joshua. The media were having a field day when they were unsure if Usyk would leave the army and travel to make the fight happen but there is no doubt about it.

Fury vs Usyk is still a massive possibility, maybe the most likely outcome too but just imagine what would happen if Whyte beats Fury and then Joshua beats Usyk. How many people would have imagined a unification fight between those two?
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I don't know what has to happen in the Whyte-Fury fight for the Joshua-Whyte unification fight to get a lot of public attention. With all due respect to these boxers, they are far from being as bright as their opponents. The most insane fight will of course be Fury - Usyk. Something like that duel trial in Game of Thrones  Grin
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Yes he is definitely out of the country and preparing to face Joshua. The media were having a field day when they were unsure if Usyk would leave the army and travel to make the fight happen but there is no doubt about it.

Fury vs Usyk is still a massive possibility, maybe the most likely outcome too but just imagine what would happen if Whyte beats Fury and then Joshua beats Usyk. How many people would have imagined a unification fight between those two?

Their weigh-in was a funny event with Whyte and Fury giving a lot of respect to each other. A short video is here: https://www.skysports.com/boxing/news/12183/12595925/tyson-fury-wbc-heavyweight-title-holder-weighs-in-heavier-than-opponent-dillian-whyte-for-wembley-date



Usyk left Ukraine to prepare for the rematch against Joshua. It is definitely going ahead, it will not be postponed.
Oh really? I thought the only news sources reporting on this was the Mirror, and S*n which I'll be honest I just took it lightly. If that's true, that's an interesting chain of events.
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If am Fury I will wait to fight Joshua after beating Dillian Whyte, then retire. He has seen it all and has made great impact in the world of boxing and should retire after these two fights. He should retire whether he loses to AJ or not, I have taken it that he will sweep past Whyte easily in tomorrow's bout.
I'm not so sure, maybe I'm reading into it too much, but Fury didn't look himself in the press conference. He was visibly annoyed at his father butting in, and making it about him. We've seen it in the past where Fury gets complacent, and ends up giving an opportunity to his opponent. Remember the cut he received over the eye? That could have easily been stopped, and its not because he was getting beaten, it was because he was complacent. Fury steps up when he needs to step up, otherwise he cruises. Could be a similar story with Whyte, the only thing with Whyte he is capable of knocking him out.

Although, obviously I'm still backing Fury he should find this easy, but it just depends on what Fury turns up on the night.
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This fight is happening not because of the normal way in staging fights where champions and superstars offer money to their challengers while demanding some fight details especially a rematch clause. But this one is different. There was no agreement reached until deadline which prompted the WBC to schedule the purse bid. Bidding for a single mandatory fight where both fighters purse are even fixed which defending champions usually take 60% to 75% depending on the sanctioning body (WBA, WBC, IBF, WBO). These fixed purse splits can be advantageous when someone is fighting a superstar like in this case. Dillian Whyte was probably not satisfied by Fury's previous offers so he could easily wait until deadline of negotiations where purse bid becomes the final solution. These mandatory fights are also common reasons why some unified champions will just relinquished their belts. Lennox Lewis and Canelo for example dumped their IBF belts before.


At the press conference, White said he wanted to put on a spectacular fight with Fury, but I doubt that would be a good choice for him. When Fury provokes an opponent into an open fight, only Fury benefits from this, because he is not a convenient opponent in this state. Fury is talking about ending his career, no one wants to walk away defeated, but Fury is not an ordinary person, you cannot be completely sure that he is telling the truth.
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when a person like that says he is retiring after the fight against Dillian Whyte i do not think that he is bluffing unless he feels he needs to prove something else.

If am Fury I will wait to fight Joshua after beating Dillian Whyte, then retire. He has seen it all and has made great impact in the world of boxing and should retire after these two fights. He should retire whether he loses to AJ or not, I have taken it that he will sweep past Whyte easily in tomorrow's bout.

The excitement for the fight is fever pitch. I expect Whyte to put in a good fight despite that am giving it to Fury. I watched an interview where Fury said Whyte was not Deotay Wilder, meaning he will not be expecting much of a fight that can shake him. Wilder for him was like holding a dynamite in the hand unlike a lesser effect he expects from Whyte. Any upset from the bout by Whyte will change alot of things and create new discussions in the boxing world. I wish that can happen.
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You never know what kind of decisions Tyson Fury is going to take, he once ended his career after becoming the champion after defeating Wladimir Klitschko who was dominating the boxing world for decades and Tyson Fury was an underdog coming into the fight and he dominated and became the champion and then he retired for good and when a person like that says he is retiring after the fight against Dillian Whyte i do not think that he is bluffing unless he feels he needs to prove something else.
Yeah, although that was because of mental health, and I think it was a good reason. I mean, the reason he fell into that slum was because he had been training for that moment for pretty much is whole life, and then he suddenly achieves it, there was no goal left for him at that point, and this happens quite frequently. I myself haven't achieved anything on scale with that, but I've had similar feelings where when you achieve something you've been building towards for a long time, once you've achieved it you lose the motivation for a short while after.

Tyson is a man that needs those constant goals. Now, that doesn't mean it'll always involve boxing, I do believe what happened to his daughter before the Wilder fight, might have changed some of his priorities, and he might just want to spend more time with his family as a result.

I'm not sure, I guess we'll find out if he's true to his word in a years time, once everything has settled. I wouldn't base any decisions or speculation on what he says after the Whyte fight.
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I know Fury has said he's retiring, and for those that are taking that serious, it might just be a plan to try, and make the above happen, since we've all wanted that fight.
He probably will not retire until he unifies the belts and becomes undisputed heavyweight champion and defends the belts at least once.
You never know what kind of decisions Tyson Fury is going to take, he once ended his career after becoming the champion after defeating Wladimir Klitschko who was dominating the boxing world for decades and Tyson Fury was an underdog coming into the fight and he dominated and became the champion and then he retired for good and when a person like that says he is retiring after the fight against Dillian Whyte i do not think that he is bluffing unless he feels he needs to prove something else.
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Usyk left Ukraine to prepare for the rematch against Joshua. It is definitely going ahead, it will not be postponed.
Oh really? I thought the only news sources reporting on this was the Mirror, and S*n which I'll be honest I just took it lightly. If that's true, that's an interesting chain of events.

He probably will not retire until he unifies the belts and becomes undisputed heavyweight champion and defends the belts at least once.
Not sure if he'll defend the belts. He's 33 years old, they generally fight once a year at most. So, by the time this process kicks into gear, whoever the winner of the Usyk vs Joshua will be looking for a fight in 2023/2024, while Fury would have been out of action for a while by then, so would likely need another fight in between then, and now.

Although, to be honest I'm not sure I need him to defend the belt. I just want to see that one fight, we've been waiting for years.

I will be watching the fight because I want to see if Fury still has the hunger to unify the belts. If Whyte loses badly then he will probably have to retire but he will have enough energy at least in the first few rounds to match Fury but overall he does not have many backing him because technically he is too inferior a boxer to Fury.
I remembered it was in Wembley, so the timing should suit me. I'll likely watch since I won't be doing anything else at that time. Thought it was going to clash with the UFC, as that's usually the case. Whyte has power, but Fury should be able to avoid that since he's definitely a lot slower than Wilder.
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Surely, since Usyk I believe is currently in Ukraine fighting for his country, surely the most logical thing to do now would be to put that fight on the back burner, since we don't know exactly when he'll return, and set up the Fury vs Joshua fight, assuming that Fury beats Whyte on the weekend.
Usyk left Ukraine to prepare for the rematch against Joshua. It is definitely going ahead, it will not be postponed.

I know Fury has said he's retiring, and for those that are taking that serious, it might just be a plan to try, and make the above happen, since we've all wanted that fight.
He probably will not retire until he unifies the belts and becomes undisputed heavyweight champion and defends the belts at least once.

Also, I probably won't be watching this fight, but I'm expecting Fury to win it without any issues. Probably finishes Whyte too given his age, and lack of stamina. Although, I could easily see it going to a decision win by Fury too, depends on the route he wants to take.
I will be watching the fight because I want to see if Fury still has the hunger to unify the belts. If Whyte loses badly then he will probably have to retire but he will have enough energy at least in the first few rounds to match Fury but overall he does not have many backing him because technically he is too inferior a boxer to Fury.
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If there is no rematch clause then that will be another potential error on part of Frank Warren. The other was not having including obligations on part of Whyte to attend fight promotions.

It's indeed a big error we never know if the fight will be excited that fans will want a rematch if Whyte wins Fury will have to go to the winner of Joshua - Usyk to get another crack at Whyte, and boxers should be obligated to promote the fight the promoters spent money for the fight and they should help the fight to make a profit, that's the reason why Whyte is always absent in their conference who would promote a fighter who is not attending promotion anyway Fury is the big attraction here so I guess Whyte will have to take a back seat.

I don't think this is a error (if it exists at all). Firstly, the Fury team is completely confident that Fury will win the fight and we must admit that they are most likely right. Secondly, if Fury loses, then the interest in the rematch will be such (and so much money will be at stake) that Whyte will have no choice and the rematch will still take place.
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Surely, since Usyk I believe is currently in Ukraine fighting for his country, surely the most logical thing to do now would be to put that fight on the back burner, since we don't know exactly when he'll return, and set up the Fury vs Joshua fight, assuming that Fury beats Whyte on the weekend. I know Fury has said he's retiring, and for those that are taking that serious, it might just be a plan to try, and make the above happen, since we've all wanted that fight.

Usyk could actually then get the opportunity to beat Joshua on the rematch with belts in his hands. Even if I don't personally believe Fury is retiring yet, he hasn't got an awful amount of time ahead of him, at least at his peak. So, I don't see the match makers making these two fights in the next couple of years, since in boxing they're notoriously slow at it. This might be the best route for all fighters given the current circumstances.

Also, I probably won't be watching this fight, but I'm expecting Fury to win it without any issues. Probably finishes Whyte too given his age, and lack of stamina. Although, I could easily see it going to a decision win by Fury too, depends on the route he wants to take.
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If there is no rematch clause then that will be another potential error on part of Frank Warren. The other was not having including obligations on part of Whyte to attend fight promotions.


It's indeed a big error we never know if the fight will be excited that fans will want a rematch if Whyte wins Fury will have to go to the winner of Joshua - Usyk to get another crack at Whyte, and boxers should be obligated to promote the fight the promoters spent money for the fight and they should help the fight to make a profit, that's the reason why Whyte is always absent in their conference who would promote a fighter who is not attending promotion anyway Fury is the big attraction here so I guess Whyte will have to take a back seat.

This fight is happening not because of the normal way in staging fights where champions and superstars offer money to their challengers while demanding some fight details especially a rematch clause. But this one is different. There was no agreement reached until deadline which prompted the WBC to schedule the purse bid. Bidding for a single mandatory fight where both fighters purse are even fixed which defending champions usually take 60% to 75% depending on the sanctioning body (WBA, WBC, IBF, WBO). These fixed purse splits can be advantageous when someone is fighting a superstar like in this case. Dillian Whyte was probably not satisfied by Fury's previous offers so he could easily wait until deadline of negotiations where purse bid becomes the final solution. These mandatory fights are also common reasons why some unified champions will just relinquished their belts. Lennox Lewis and Canelo for example dumped their IBF belts before.
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If there is no rematch clause then that will be another potential error on part of Frank Warren. The other was not having including obligations on part of Whyte to attend fight promotions.


It's indeed a big error we never know if the fight will be excited that fans will want a rematch if Whyte wins Fury will have to go to the winner of Joshua - Usyk to get another crack at Whyte, and boxers should be obligated to promote the fight the promoters spent money for the fight and they should help the fight to make a profit, that's the reason why Whyte is always absent in their conference who would promote a fighter who is not attending promotion anyway Fury is the big attraction here so I guess Whyte will have to take a back seat.
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If there is no rematch clause then that will be another potential error on part of Frank Warren. The other was not having including obligations on part of Whyte to attend fight promotions.

It was not exactly a smooth face off when they met yesterday. Their teams had to be pulled apart. John Tyson nearly had a fight with a member of the Whyte team but they calmed the situation down.

In the end the boxers were not involved in trying to have a pre-fight fight. It looked they were best friends when they stood in Wembley for the photo shoot  Grin

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I don't think there is a rematch clause if I recall correctly what Tyson said, but I'm sure if Whyte did win he'd be all too willing to fight Fury again. If there's no rematch clause then the ball would be in his court so he has all the power and can dictate the terms of the rematch which Fury would have no choice but to accept.

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You're right, Whyte has no chance of outboxing Fury...
Very excited that i will get to see Fury fight again and so soon. We may just be witnessing his last days in the ring. Whyte although we may all see him as the underdog for this fight has some pretty good statistics coming into this fight and should not be widely underated especially by Fury himself, because that will be his first point of failure. A lot is on the line for Fury, i don't think this is a KO match, both fighters look capable to fight to the last round.
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At last Dillian Whyte gets his long waited title shot. But it is hard to imagine Dillian beating Fury. Dillian doesn't have the footwork, hand speed and strength to outbox and outmuscle Fury. His only chance is to knock or at least hurt the champion to change the tempo of the fight. This seems like a mission impossible for Dillian, seeing how Fury gets up a total of 4 times from one of the hardest if not the hardest puncher in heavyweight history of boxing.

Okay I am taking my bet on Tyson Fury now. Odds isn't good but I believe that Dillian Whyte doesn't have the stamina to survive Fury's fighting pace. So i'm taking that 1.82 Tyson Fury by ko/tko. 

You're right, Whyte has no chance of outboxing Fury, so if someone believes in Whyte, they shouldn't bet on a simple win with 4.9 odds. It is much more profitable to bet with 6.2 odds that Whyte will win by knockout. To be honest, I'm now thinking about making such a bet - the odds seem to be profitable, the only thing that confuses me is that Fury is able to get up after a knockout and continue the fight without any problems.
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At last Dillian Whyte gets his long waited title shot. But it is hard to imagine Dillian beating Fury. Dillian doesn't have the footwork, hand speed and strength to outbox and outmuscle Fury. His only chance is to knock or at least hurt the champion to change the tempo of the fight. This seems like a mission impossible for Dillian, seeing how Fury gets up a total of 4 times from one of the hardest if not the hardest puncher in heavyweight history of boxing.

Okay I am taking my bet on Tyson Fury now. Odds isn't good but I believe that Dillian Whyte doesn't have the stamina to survive Fury's fighting pace. So i'm taking that 1.82 Tyson Fury by ko/tko. 

This fight seems to be a challenging fight for Dillian Whyte and that only means that hurting a champion like Tyson Fury he needed to prepare for this game more than his 100 percent best and should develop his speed, footworks and strength. Whyte waited so long for this opportunity and with that being said this is also the opportunity which a challenging opportunity for him so he needs to take it seriously because his opponent is an undefeated champion..
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I agree about him not exactly having the gift of the gab, but he could have at least offered some insight or tried to do some mindgames on Fury. It was all just vanilla, but I'm guessing deep down he still doesn't really wanna promote the fight given there's nothing in it for him at this point.
Whyte waited so long for this opportunity, I worry for him that maybe he has waited too long and will go in to this fight half-hearted. He does seem fairly disinterested in the fight and the opportunity to become WBC heavyweight world champion but that could be down to him feeling he was deprived of his real share of the fight.



I dunno. I think he'll be up for it. He has to be. Going into this fight half-hearted would be a very bad idea. He knows what he needs to do and this is the biggest stage he's ever going to have so even if he doesn't win putting on a good performance will earn him some fans. It's pretty much his last chance to make an impression on the world stage and after this it's likely just bums he'll be facing unless he exceeds expectations.


In that case if it is all about finances as far as Whyte is concerned, the best scenario for him would be to defeat Fury and then have the rematch. In that way whether he wins or loses the second fight that would set him up for life but I think the chances of that happening are virtually zero.



I don't think there is a rematch clause if I recall correctly what Tyson said, but I'm sure if Whyte did win he'd be all too willing to fight Fury again. If there's no rematch clause then the ball would be in his court so he has all the power and can dictate the terms of the rematch which Fury would have no choice but to accept.

Only few days are left, and I can't wait to see Tyson Fury fighting again, and you can bet your house he will try to win this fight with a style in his country at Wembley stadium.
Fury has a big reach advantage and odds for him are very low, so I would look for value in some special bets.
I think this fight is just a warm up for long expected fight against Anthony Joshua, this would be much moer interesting to watch and I would again support Fury to win.
You seem sure Fury will face Joshua for a unification fight but in order for that to happen Fury must defeat Whyte and in the other fight Joshua must defeat Usyk. In my opinion it is highly unlikely a Fury vs Joshua unification fight will happen. I think a Fury vs Usyk  unification fight is more likely to happen.

They can still fight even if AJ doesn't have a belt. With or without any belts I still think the fight would be the biggest British boxing match of all time. Bigger than Fury/Whyte that's for sure. Of course it would be even bigger if all the belts were on the line. I don't think it's impossible that AJ can't win the belts back either. AJ knows what to expect of Usyk now so I don't think he's going to make the same mistake. My money probably would be on Usyk again but I could see it going the distance next time. The only issue is Usyk might have a rematch clause for this fight so it could end up going to  a trilogy fight like Fury/Wilder.
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At last Dillian Whyte gets his long waited title shot. But it is hard to imagine Dillian beating Fury. Dillian doesn't have the footwork, hand speed and strength to outbox and outmuscle Fury. His only chance is to knock or at least hurt the champion to change the tempo of the fight. This seems like a mission impossible for Dillian, seeing how Fury gets up a total of 4 times from one of the hardest if not the hardest puncher in heavyweight history of boxing.

Okay I am taking my bet on Tyson Fury now. Odds isn't good but I believe that Dillian Whyte doesn't have the stamina to survive Fury's fighting pace. So i'm taking that 1.82 Tyson Fury by ko/tko. 
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The reason why Wembley Stadium will be at 94,000 tell sell out is because of Fury. I doubt Whyte on his own can generate enough interest to fill anywhere near a quarter of the crowd.
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What it a pre fight conference? Dont you happen to know, if I can watch it somewhere? Every Fury fight is a double performance, first he makes fun out of his opponent in a conference, then he defeats his opponent for the second time on the ring. I dont think that Whyte was not on the conference, because he is trying to hide his form and impress us this Saturday. With this absence, he actually already lost. He just dont wanted to mentally lose before they meet on the ring.
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