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it is true that if Magsayo beat Russell this would be his best accomplishment above the ring so far, but I think there are good chances it could happen as I do not think Russell will be at his best.

I like your positivity towards Mark Magsayo even against all odds and on paper to the majority of analysts, he doesn't have any advantages to match with the Favorite Gary Russell. I'm thinking too that since the fight against Russell will be Magsayo's biggest fight so far, he will aggressively push to achieve the win.

Snatching the WBC Featherweight title from Russell will make his name hyped at the Featherweight Division. It will also open for a chance to get a much bigger fight contract in the future.
What I can say to you I am a positive person Wink, however when I say good chance I am not saying he is the favorite what I am saying is that he can win if the circumstances are right, after all there are opponents like Canelo that you simply know are not going to be beaten right now as they are on their prime, however even if Russell is without a doubt a good fighter he is not unbeatable, if the style of Magsayo is difficult to figure out for Russell then Magsayo can pull the win.
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What about if Russell win over magsayo it will popular too, i think their is manipulation in boxing game the person you have hope that will win and in normal is suppose win the game will just lose it because bet and plenty people have betted on him as a winner and after manipulating it they share money with the winner, i know it will not happen like that in this boxing, let watch and see who will defeat each other by my credit goes to magsayo
Nope, if Russell win it doesn't change anything since he's only defending his belt... not snatch the new belt.

Well your assumption are too much about this fight, for me there's no manipulation if we talking about real/professional boxer when the boxer got cut, bloody, serious injury etc. It's different with exhibition fight when the boxer mostly hugging each other, running until the time out, not serious, and no one's injured. And exhibition fight usually offer a lot money rather than the professional fight (except the boxer is very popular).

Right, he is already popular in the US already, but the thing is that he seldom fight and so obviously his resume is not that good. And I believed that if he fights the other champion in the division as opposed to just hibernating and coming out to fight as he pleases, his could could be in the discussions for pound for pound and could really be earning a lot of money by now. However, since his lost to Loma, he seems to be slowing down and doesn't want to accept bigger names and big challenges in the division.

There's only one way to find out if he was able to maintain himself despite being inactive for a while, and we will see it as soon as he will fight Magsayo who is a pretty much active boxer and is hungry to become a champion, I know what most of us are rooting here so we have some few positive words for Rusell.
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What about if Russell win over magsayo it will popular too, i think their is manipulation in boxing game the person you have hope that will win and in normal is suppose win the game will just lose it because bet and plenty people have betted on him as a winner and after manipulating it they share money with the winner, i know it will not happen like that in this boxing, let watch and see who will defeat each other by my credit goes to magsayo
Nope, if Russell win it doesn't change anything since he's only defending his belt... not snatch the new belt.

Well your assumption are too much about this fight, for me there's no manipulation if we talking about real/professional boxer when the boxer got cut, bloody, serious injury etc. It's different with exhibition fight when the boxer mostly hugging each other, running until the time out, not serious, and no one's injured. And exhibition fight usually offer a lot money rather than the professional fight (except the boxer is very popular).

Right, he is already popular in the US already, but the thing is that he seldom fight and so obviously his resume is not that good. And I believed that if he fights the other champion in the division as opposed to just hibernating and coming out to fight as he pleases, his could could be in the discussions for pound for pound and could really be earning a lot of money by now. However, since his lost to Loma, he seems to be slowing down and doesn't want to accept bigger names and big challenges in the division.
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What about if Russell win over magsayo it will popular too, i think their is manipulation in boxing game the person you have hope that will win and in normal is suppose win the game will just lose it because bet and plenty people have betted on him as a winner and after manipulating it they share money with the winner, i know it will not happen like that in this boxing, let watch and see who will defeat each other by my credit goes to magsayo
Nope, if Russell win it doesn't change anything since he's only defending his belt... not snatch the new belt.

Well your assumption are too much about this fight, for me there's no manipulation if we talking about real/professional boxer when the boxer got cut, bloody, serious injury etc. It's different with exhibition fight when the boxer mostly hugging each other, running until the time out, not serious, and no one's injured. And exhibition fight usually offer a lot money rather than the professional fight (except the boxer is very popular).



It's a shame if we compare the real boxing fight to exhibition fight, they are not close although in terms of earnings some boxers are making good money in exhibition fights than in real boxing fights. Also, real boxing fights are done by professionals which is not in the case of exhibition fights.
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What about if Russell win over magsayo it will popular too, i think their is manipulation in boxing game the person you have hope that will win and in normal is suppose win the game will just lose it because bet and plenty people have betted on him as a winner and after manipulating it they share money with the winner, i know it will not happen like that in this boxing, let watch and see who will defeat each other by my credit goes to magsayo
Nope, if Russell win it doesn't change anything since he's only defending his belt... not snatch the new belt.

Well your assumption are too much about this fight, for me there's no manipulation if we talking about real/professional boxer when the boxer got cut, bloody, serious injury etc. It's different with exhibition fight when the boxer mostly hugging each other, running until the time out, not serious, and no one's injured. And exhibition fight usually offer a lot money rather than the professional fight (except the boxer is very popular).

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Mark Magsayo: I'm Going To Show Gary Russell What Filipinos Are Made Of!

I like his positive mindset towards the fight. He should keep that stand and prove to all how deadly he is.

This is the biggest fight of his career and he is eyeing Gary Russell for a long. The legendary Freddie Roach will be again recognized if his Mark Magsayo will snatch a title from a heavy champion.

Can't imagine now what's next for Magsayo. If he wins that match, the more big match is waiting for him. Russell is like a big wall that needed to be crushed to unlock more high levels opportunities for Magasyo.


Yes, you are right if magsayo wins this fight against Russell he will become the more popular boxer of an all-time cause we all know that Russel is on the stage of popularity and Magasyo is in his prime career. Like you said many big fights are waiting if he can defeat Russel more opportunities will wait from him and I think he can made this.
What about if Russell win over magsayo it will popular too, i think their is manipulation in boxing game the person you have hope that will win and in normal is suppose win the game will just lose it because bet and plenty people have betted on him as a winner and after manipulating it they share money with the winner, i know it will not happen like that in this boxing, let watch and see who will defeat each other by my credit goes to magsayo
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No, bookies will not give that to Magsayo, the odds will always favor Gary Russell because he is the champion and Magsayo is just the challenger. Odds in gambling sites are more reliable than our individual's opinion because it's created by expert and it's not biased. However, to confirm all my statement, we can wait for the odds to be out probably early next year.

It should be expected that Russell will be the Favorite to win the match. Not just because he's a champion but bookies follow a certain factor and all those might be favor and advantage to Russell. As held the title for 5 years and all title defense won, it was accompanied by good strength and Russell already proves that.

I don't even see honestly that Russell considers Magsayo a threat but still, he will not likely to go relax on that fight.

As for anyone here, I'm also looking forward to Magsayo upsetting the champion. Hoping also for decent odds for him once got listed on bookies.
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Inoue vs Donaire is a good match if it will happen I think Donaire must focus on training so that he has a chance to win against the king of their division. Inoue must be careful also cause we all know that Donaire is a counter puncher.
Back to the topic about magsayo and Russell yes This is the big fight of Magsayo's career and they must be trained harder. In this fight I will bet magsayo too.


I remember watching Mark Magsayo's fight against Julio Ceja where the former landed a right hard punch on round 10 which sealed the deal and eventually won the entire fight. According to boxrec, Magsayo has an undefeated record of 23 wins. I do think that Gary Russell is a dangerous opponent given his destructive power, size, and speed on the ring.

There was this article that featured Magsayo, stating that this fight might be his biggest so far. Although I do fear for him, I am at full support towards this fight as I do believe that he will eventually come out as the winner at the end.

In a fight like this where a Filipino is a challenger for the championship, it's good to support and put our bet. I guess we all see how Magsayo adjusted in his previous fight, he did not get frustrated although his opponent is leading the scorecard, instead, he finds ways to make a convincing win and that is by knocking out his opponent. So, anything can happen in this fight, he might replicate that kind of victory although his opponent now is a champion.

Go with our "kabayan" no matter what the odds are. This is an opportunity for a Filipino fighter again to be a champion, and Magsayo has a shot in winning since his conditioning is very much efficient, he is actively fighting and now he is given a golden opportunity that he should not miss and has to win.
The odds are in favor of the Filipino boxer, no doubt for that. As he is able to win in his previous fight with a hard punch, no way that he can't make it the same for his next fight. If the time permits him to keep that winning streak continuing, that was a huge celebration.
Well, we can't just underestimate his opponent as being a champion is hard to deal and of course, he doesn't want to lose also and so he keeps proving himself until he could and give the best shoot.
No, bookies will not give that to Magsayo, the odds will always favor Gary Russell because he is the champion and Magsayo is just the challenger. Odds in gambling sites are more reliable than our individual's opinion because it's created by expert and it's not biased. However, to confirm all my statement, we can wait for the odds to be out probably early next year.
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Mark Magsayo: I'm Going To Show Gary Russell What Filipinos Are Made Of!

I like his positive mindset towards the fight. He should keep that stand and prove to all how deadly he is.

This is the biggest fight of his career and he is eyeing Gary Russell for a long. The legendary Freddie Roach will be again recognized if his Mark Magsayo will snatch a title from a heavy champion.

Can't imagine now what's next for Magsayo. If he wins that match, the more big match is waiting for him. Russell is like a big wall that needed to be crushed to unlock more high levels opportunities for Magasyo.


Yes, you are right if magsayo wins this fight against Russell he will become the more popular boxer of an all-time cause we all know that Russel is on the stage of popularity and Magasyo is in his prime career. Like you said many big fights are waiting if he can defeat Russel more opportunities will wait from him and I think he can made this.

Lol, it seems that you need to watch a lot of boxing match to say that Magsayo's win will make him popular boxer of all time, that's an exaggeration and it's far from happening.

It course, it will propel his name in this division but there's no way that he will even crack the p4p list or even become more popular than least say Donaire in the Philippines. Still Pacquiao then Donaire and then the rest of Filipinos still campaigning and active in boxing right now.

This is his first world championship fight if I'm not mistaken, so he is not a champion already for a long time and no way he will be the most popular. We have some Filipino champions like Donaire and Casimero but they are not as popular as Pacman, only Pacman is popular in the Philippines, a boxer has to be near Pacman's achievement on order for him to be popular.

Pacman has already retired so we have to look for someone whom when can cheer to be a popular boxer in the world. As for the current ranking, I believe Donaire is the most popular now and he is a superstar also so he can easily sell his fight. The name Casimero maybe comes after, but with his loud mouth, he became popular but needs to prove more in order to become a real threat to the champions in his weight class and highher.
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Mark Magsayo: I'm Going To Show Gary Russell What Filipinos Are Made Of!

I like his positive mindset towards the fight. He should keep that stand and prove to all how deadly he is.

This is the biggest fight of his career and he is eyeing Gary Russell for a long. The legendary Freddie Roach will be again recognized if his Mark Magsayo will snatch a title from a heavy champion.

Can't imagine now what's next for Magsayo. If he wins that match, the more big match is waiting for him. Russell is like a big wall that needed to be crushed to unlock more high levels opportunities for Magasyo.


Yes, you are right if magsayo wins this fight against Russell he will become the more popular boxer of an all-time cause we all know that Russel is on the stage of popularity and Magasyo is in his prime career. Like you said many big fights are waiting if he can defeat Russel more opportunities will wait from him and I think he can made this.

Lol, it seems that you need to watch a lot of boxing match to say that Magsayo's win will make him popular boxer of all time, that's an exaggeration and it's far from happening.

It course, it will propel his name in this division but there's no way that he will even crack the p4p list or even become more popular than least say Donaire in the Philippines. Still Pacquiao then Donaire and then the rest of Filipinos still campaigning and active in boxing right now.

This is his first world championship fight if I'm not mistaken, so he is not a champion already for a long time and no way he will be the most popular. We have some Filipino champions like Donaire and Casimero but they are not as popular as Pacman, only Pacman is popular in the Philippines, a boxer has to be near Pacman's achievement on order for him to be popular.
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Inoue vs Donaire is a good match if it will happen I think Donaire must focus on training so that he has a chance to win against the king of their division. Inoue must be careful also cause we all know that Donaire is a counter puncher.
Back to the topic about magsayo and Russell yes This is the big fight of Magsayo's career and they must be trained harder. In this fight I will bet magsayo too.


I remember watching Mark Magsayo's fight against Julio Ceja where the former landed a right hard punch on round 10 which sealed the deal and eventually won the entire fight. According to boxrec, Magsayo has an undefeated record of 23 wins. I do think that Gary Russell is a dangerous opponent given his destructive power, size, and speed on the ring.

There was this article that featured Magsayo, stating that this fight might be his biggest so far. Although I do fear for him, I am at full support towards this fight as I do believe that he will eventually come out as the winner at the end.

In a fight like this where a Filipino is a challenger for the championship, it's good to support and put our bet. I guess we all see how Magsayo adjusted in his previous fight, he did not get frustrated although his opponent is leading the scorecard, instead, he finds ways to make a convincing win and that is by knocking out his opponent. So, anything can happen in this fight, he might replicate that kind of victory although his opponent now is a champion.

Go with our "kabayan" no matter what the odds are. This is an opportunity for a Filipino fighter again to be a champion, and Magsayo has a shot in winning since his conditioning is very much efficient, he is actively fighting and now he is given a golden opportunity that he should not miss and has to win.
Our gambling bets isn't connected and affects the real boxing fight, even if we bet on high stakes on it, that won't have any effect on the fighters. I think the very reason why we're gambling is to win, right? If you want to support someone, gambling isn't the way.
Mark Magsayo is without a doubt going to win this match, aside from the fact that he's active in the industry with 3 matches while Russell is inactive. He knows well that he wouldn't underestimate Russell and he knows too that this is may be the opportunity to become known in the industry.
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Mark Magsayo: I'm Going To Show Gary Russell What Filipinos Are Made Of!

I like his positive mindset towards the fight. He should keep that stand and prove to all how deadly he is.

This is the biggest fight of his career and he is eyeing Gary Russell for a long. The legendary Freddie Roach will be again recognized if his Mark Magsayo will snatch a title from a heavy champion.

Can't imagine now what's next for Magsayo. If he wins that match, the more big match is waiting for him. Russell is like a big wall that needed to be crushed to unlock more high levels opportunities for Magasyo.


Yes, you are right if magsayo wins this fight against Russell he will become the more popular boxer of an all-time cause we all know that Russel is on the stage of popularity and Magasyo is in his prime career. Like you said many big fights are waiting if he can defeat Russel more opportunities will wait from him and I think he can made this.

Lol, it seems that you need to watch a lot of boxing match to say that Magsayo's win will make him popular boxer of all time, that's an exaggeration and it's far from happening.

It course, it will propel his name in this division but there's no way that he will even crack the p4p list or even become more popular than least say Donaire in the Philippines. Still Pacquiao then Donaire and then the rest of Filipinos still campaigning and active in boxing right now.
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So far we have seen a lot that the average boxer from the Philippines is always troublesome to his opponent because they are equipped with stamina and good hitting resistance.
I guess Russell will know this and he won't be able to relax now.
although his ability is quite good and he is one of the boxers who is quite complex and his abilities are evenly distributed in speed, strength and IQ in the ring he is also good but the problem of resting too long still still doubts the gamblers.
I think he should now be where he should practice and start honing his skills at this point
Russell is regulary training himself even though he didn't fight with anyone, I think he just make himself is ready whenever the fight declared... so he won't underestimating Magsayo. Yep he's take a break for 2 years now, previously he only one per year, he just want to fight if there's a challenger.

The best PH boxer right now is Donaire, but sadly he's lose from Inoue. There're no PH boxer which is good like Pacquiao, probably we'll see in the next decade(s).
Both fighters have been training and fit before this match up even came up, Russell's trainings isn't going to be enough to make-up his inactivity because as we all know, experiences are much more better and helpful to the fighters rather than just training alone. Russell's been inactive for almost 2 years this February and Magsayo have fought 3 times in that said time span. I think Russell knows that well too, so he really have to train more harder rather than showing signs that he's underestimating this Philippine boxer.

Indeed, there's no one that is likely to follow Pacquiao as the best Philippine boxer for now. If Magsayo could pull this off, then he's going to have that chance to be the another Pinoy pride.
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Yes, you are right if magsayo wins this fight against Russell he will become the more popular boxer of an all-time cause we all know that Russel is on the stage of popularity and Magasyo is in his prime career. Like you said many big fights are waiting if he can defeat Russel more opportunities will wait from him and I think he can made this.

Popular boxer of all time?  Just one of the popular because that fight is a title match. If he gets it from Russell, a big recognition is coming for Magsayo.

It's like when Pacquiao challenge Marco Antonio Barrera. After Pacquiao won, lots of big matches were inked next and that's the start of the pound-for-pound journey. We hope Magsayo will have the same journey too. Not that close to Pacquiao but lots of wins. He is still young at 26 and has more chances to achieve more milestones on his career.
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Mark Magsayo: I'm Going To Show Gary Russell What Filipinos Are Made Of!

I like his positive mindset towards the fight. He should keep that stand and prove to all how deadly he is.

This is the biggest fight of his career and he is eyeing Gary Russell for a long. The legendary Freddie Roach will be again recognized if his Mark Magsayo will snatch a title from a heavy champion.

Can't imagine now what's next for Magsayo. If he wins that match, the more big match is waiting for him. Russell is like a big wall that needed to be crushed to unlock more high levels opportunities for Magasyo.


Yes, you are right if magsayo wins this fight against Russell he will become the more popular boxer of an all-time cause we all know that Russel is on the stage of popularity and Magasyo is in his prime career. Like you said many big fights are waiting if he can defeat Russel more opportunities will wait from him and I think he can made this.
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Mark Magsayo: I'm Going To Show Gary Russell What Filipinos Are Made Of!

I like his positive mindset towards the fight. He should keep that stand and prove to all how deadly he is.

This is the biggest fight of his career and he is eyeing Gary Russell for a long. The legendary Freddie Roach will be again recognized if his Mark Magsayo will snatch a title from a heavy champion.

Can't imagine now what's next for Magsayo. If he wins that match, the more big match is waiting for him. Russell is like a big wall that needed to be crushed to unlock more high levels opportunities for Magasyo.
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The odds are in favor of the Filipino boxer, no doubt for that. As he is able to win in his previous fight with a hard punch, no way that he can't make it the same for his next fight. If the time permits him to keep that winning streak continuing, that was a huge celebration.

If you define the odds as Favorites, no it should be Gary Russell as the Favorite and it's expected. He is the current champion and held the title since 2015 destroying all challengers. The good thing about that is, for Magsayo bettors like me, we can expect high odds for him on that fight as he will be the Underdog.

Once the official odds are now out, I'm expecting at least a minimum of 4+ odds for Magsayo to win the match. The advantage of Magsayo is, he is averaging 2 fights per year and that makes him being active while Russell is only 1. But even with that average for Russell, it doesn't mean he is rusty. He is a Champion for a big reason and will not be called an American Flash.

i don't think we will reach 4+ odds for magsayo here. considering that he won last fight with a good punch. bookies will take into account that aspect. he is pretty active as well. so if he will be the underdog here, am guessing about 2-3 odds max.
but let's see once these bookies put their odds out. and assuming there will be no delay or postponement about their target date of jan 22. in most cases, these covid restrictions or other covid-related emergencies are affecting the schedule of sports events.
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The odds are in favor of the Filipino boxer, no doubt for that. As he is able to win in his previous fight with a hard punch, no way that he can't make it the same for his next fight. If the time permits him to keep that winning streak continuing, that was a huge celebration.

If you define the odds as Favorites, no it should be Gary Russell as the Favorite and it's expected. He is the current champion and held the title since 2015 destroying all challengers. The good thing about that is, for Magsayo bettors like me, we can expect high odds for him on that fight as he will be the Underdog.

Once the official odds are now out, I'm expecting at least a minimum of 4+ odds for Magsayo to win the match. The advantage of Magsayo is, he is averaging 2 fights per year and that makes him being active while Russell is only 1. But even with that average for Russell, it doesn't mean he is rusty. He is a Champion for a big reason and will not be called an American Flash.
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Inoue vs Donaire is a good match if it will happen I think Donaire must focus on training so that he has a chance to win against the king of their division. Inoue must be careful also cause we all know that Donaire is a counter puncher.
Back to the topic about magsayo and Russell yes This is the big fight of Magsayo's career and they must be trained harder. In this fight I will bet magsayo too.


I remember watching Mark Magsayo's fight against Julio Ceja where the former landed a right hard punch on round 10 which sealed the deal and eventually won the entire fight. According to boxrec, Magsayo has an undefeated record of 23 wins. I do think that Gary Russell is a dangerous opponent given his destructive power, size, and speed on the ring.

There was this article that featured Magsayo, stating that this fight might be his biggest so far. Although I do fear for him, I am at full support towards this fight as I do believe that he will eventually come out as the winner at the end.

In a fight like this where a Filipino is a challenger for the championship, it's good to support and put our bet. I guess we all see how Magsayo adjusted in his previous fight, he did not get frustrated although his opponent is leading the scorecard, instead, he finds ways to make a convincing win and that is by knocking out his opponent. So, anything can happen in this fight, he might replicate that kind of victory although his opponent now is a champion.

Go with our "kabayan" no matter what the odds are. This is an opportunity for a Filipino fighter again to be a champion, and Magsayo has a shot in winning since his conditioning is very much efficient, he is actively fighting and now he is given a golden opportunity that he should not miss and has to win.
The odds are in favor of the Filipino boxer, no doubt for that. As he is able to win in his previous fight with a hard punch, no way that he can't make it the same for his next fight. If the time permits him to keep that winning streak continuing, that was a huge celebration.
Well, we can't just underestimate his opponent as being a champion is hard to deal and of course, he doesn't want to lose also and so he keeps proving himself until he could and give the best shoot.
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Inoue vs Donaire is a good match if it will happen I think Donaire must focus on training so that he has a chance to win against the king of their division. Inoue must be careful also cause we all know that Donaire is a counter puncher.
Back to the topic about magsayo and Russell yes This is the big fight of Magsayo's career and they must be trained harder. In this fight I will bet magsayo too.


I remember watching Mark Magsayo's fight against Julio Ceja where the former landed a right hard punch on round 10 which sealed the deal and eventually won the entire fight. According to boxrec, Magsayo has an undefeated record of 23 wins. I do think that Gary Russell is a dangerous opponent given his destructive power, size, and speed on the ring.

There was this article that featured Magsayo, stating that this fight might be his biggest so far. Although I do fear for him, I am at full support towards this fight as I do believe that he will eventually come out as the winner at the end.

In a fight like this where a Filipino is a challenger for the championship, it's good to support and put our bet. I guess we all see how Magsayo adjusted in his previous fight, he did not get frustrated although his opponent is leading the scorecard, instead, he finds ways to make a convincing win and that is by knocking out his opponent. So, anything can happen in this fight, he might replicate that kind of victory although his opponent now is a champion.
the possibility is still open to him, I think he is one of those boxers who apart from being strong and punch-resistant, he is also someone who uses his IQ ring well in matches.
the odds are still very big for him and I'm pretty sure that he can get through this with a win.
but on the other hand his opponent was someone who was really great.
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