[Boxing] Gary Russell vs Mark Magsayo WBC Featherweight Title - page 17.

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Quote from: chaser15 on December 20, 2021, 06:59:28 PM

I'm really expecting Mark Magsayo will pull this one. PH boxers are now taking spotlights on the world of boxing. It's good to see them as our own Manny Pacquiao is now retired. I hope for more big fights involving a PH boxer will happened next year.

Magsayo is also a rising star the same as Gaballo that's why I like them to always have the spotlight.

I think Magsayo has proven himself already as compare to Gaballo who we just heard in 2021.
But yes, PH boxers are now in the limelight, specially with Donaire still fighting and hopefully Casimero can come back in the picture. And Magsayo and Gaballo and the rest of PH boxers will continue to bring glory and carry the torch. And hopefully Mark can overcome a tough fight ahead of him.

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Quote from: chaser15 on December 20, 2021, 06:59:28 PM

I'm really expecting Mark Magsayo will pull this one. PH boxers are now taking spotlights on the world of boxing. It's good to see them as our own Manny Pacquiao is now retired. I hope for more big fights involving a PH boxer will happened next year.

Magsayo is also a rising star the same as Gaballo that's why I like them to always have the spotlight.

Magsayo will get the support of the Filipino boxing fans, unlike the Gaballo vs Donaire which the fans were divided since both are Filipinio fighters but as we saw in that fight, Donaire proved to be too much for the challenger, I hope this one is different and Magsayo will be able to give a good fight and hopefully win the fight.

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I'm really expecting Mark Magsayo will pull this one. PH boxers are now taking spotlights on the world of boxing. It's good to see them as our own Manny Pacquiao is now retired. I hope for more big fights involving a PH boxer will happened next year.

Magsayo is also a rising star the same as Gaballo that's why I like them to always have the spotlight.

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Quote from: Masplanc on December 20, 2021, 04:06:35 PM

Am not too familiar to the two fighters. Russell looks tough and Mark looks like a smart fighter. Russell is my favourite among the two, I can't really who win the fight though. I'll wait to see who the real winner is.

You are not familiar with both boxers but your favorite is Russell lol. Cheesy

Technically if we refer to all analysis, Russel is the Favorite to win the match. But since Magsayo is raising the flag for PH, you might see some more fan-based supporting him disregarding the odds.

Upsetting Russell will be one of Magsayo's great achievements. That will be the start of his name turning into the hype.

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Quote from: Masplanc on December 20, 2021, 04:06:35 PM

Am not too familiar to the two fighters. Russell looks tough and Mark looks like a smart fighter. Russell is my favourite among the two, I can't really who win the fight though. I'll wait to see who the real winner is.

You can see their respective records here

Gary Allen Russell Jr - https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/479775
Mark Magsayo - https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/653034

If you wish to see some of the highlights then you can use the youtube platform as I'm pretty sure lots of videos has been uploaded from their fighters as part of the promotion of their upcoming fight.

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Not sure about the effect on him since he has been off in boxing for 2 years.

We've seen a lot of upsets lately because of ring rust, and everyone is not immune to it.

Yes, you are right, he is mostly in the Asian scene and not a champion in the major 4 belt. But I still consider him a champion though.

the time is still quite long and it must be put to good use for training and to make good conditions for his performance and speed and sharpness he is retrained.
as you said, this has been very old and can even be compared to an item, it has been stored for a long time and has started to rust so it needs to be sharpened again so that it is like before.
I hope for something good for him but of course this now depends on the effort he puts into making the most of this time

Mark Magsayo has the edge if we are talking about who is more active in the ring, but Gary Russell is a champion, so it's hard to underestimate his capability, and though Magsayo won his last fight but he wasn't so impressive if not of that KO win. Honestly, I'm also concerned on how Magsayo will beat Russell since he hasn't fought someone like him before.

In this case, I actually don't really know what magsayo is like and how because I've never seen a fight from this boxer.
and i still believe that russel can still handle this even though he hasn't competed in a long time.
but on the other hand maybe I will now look at some magsayo matches to be able to compare how clear the odds of these two boxers are

You can see some of the highlights of Magsayo in youtube, a young boxer who is hungry for a world title and he is still undefeated until now. I would say much, I'll let you see and judge it yourself, also watch his last fight to have an idea on what he can do in the ring even if he is winning in the early rounds.

Quote from: Masplanc on December 20, 2021, 04:06:35 PM

Am not too familiar to the two fighters. Russell looks tough and Mark looks like a smart fighter. Russell is my favourite among the two, I can't really who win the fight though. I'll wait to see who the real winner is.

I think Mark is tough and Russell is smart, IMO, the smart fighter will win but I like to see Magsayo get his first world title.

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Am not too familiar to the two fighters. Russell looks tough and Mark looks like a smart fighter. Russell is my favourite among the two, I can't really who win the fight though. I'll wait to see who the real winner is.

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Quote from: Fredomago on December 20, 2021, 01:43:17 PM

Magsayo needs to plan every strategy that he will use against Russell. A defensive fighter is the hard one to take down
it will take a lot of preparations for Magsayo.

He should seek some advice from Donaire, Magsayo sometimes does not conserve his energy, he loves to throw punches that are not accurate as he is thinking that he could KO someone who hits him without knowing his defense gets open. This is a title fight, a one time opportunity for some, so he has to carefully plan how to win this fight as it's a big-ticket to his future success.

Probably boils down to his trainer and what plans they are going to approach this fight.

I do agree that the he should be accurate in his punch and conserve energy in the early rounds because it's going to be a rough night for him. But emulating Donaire's style might not be good though, it's the timing, so they need to have better planning otherwise Magsayo might end up getting knock out too.

Of course, anything is possible, Magsayo could be knocked out too because Russell knows how to win as the champion. Magsayo has only become a top contender but has not become a world champion yet, if he really has that skills in him, then he should win the biggest fight of his life. All I can say is I wish him luck, continue training hard, and always believe that he can win. Lastly, a loss here is not the end of his career, but a win will only more doors for big opportunities.

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Quote from: Jawhead999 on December 19, 2021, 09:55:47 AM

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Is Mark Magsayo also a champion?

I think he is just a challenger in this particular weight class or division and he is here to try to steal the belt of Gary Russell.
He is our pride, but to be honest, you are right that his lack of defense, and he always suffer his first defeat in his last fight if he was not able to KO his opponent.

Yep he's a challenger, Magsayo's doesn't have world champions title, he only have youth and asian title.

I wonder how effective is Russell perform and strategy if he only fight one a year, this fight there's 2 years gap since he doesn't have any fought last year. It's true he's active training and workout, but that's different when you fight in the ring. Sometimes, experience is more important than hard workout.

All the time but sometimes upset does happen as well, so let's see if Magsayo will be able to pull an upset here and enjoy that day to become a world champion for the first time. I'm pretty sure he is inspired now with the Filipino fighters who already won a world championship, maybe he is getting some advice from his friend Casimero.

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Quote from: Viscore on December 20, 2021, 02:55:32 PM

Quote from: Fredomago on December 20, 2021, 01:43:17 PM

Magsayo needs to plan every strategy that he will use against Russell. A defensive fighter is the hard one to take down
it will take a lot of preparations for Magsayo.

He should seek some advice from Donaire, Magsayo sometimes does not conserve his energy, he loves to throw punches that are not accurate as he is thinking that he could KO someone who hits him without knowing his defense gets open. This is a title fight, a one time opportunity for some, so he has to carefully plan how to win this fight as it's a big-ticket to his future success.

Probably boils down to his trainer and what plans they are going to approach this fight.

I do agree that the he should be accurate in his punch and conserve energy in the early rounds because it's going to be a rough night for him. But emulating Donaire's style might not be good though, it's the timing, so they need to have better planning otherwise Magsayo might end up getting knock out too.

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Quote from: Viscore on December 20, 2021, 02:55:32 PM

Quote from: Fredomago on December 20, 2021, 01:43:17 PM

Magsayo needs to plan every strategy that he will use against Russell. A defensive fighter is the hard one to take down
it will take a lot of preparations for Magsayo.

He should seek some advice from Donaire, Magsayo sometimes does not conserve his energy, he loves to throw punches that are not accurate as he is thinking that he could KO someone who hits him without knowing his defense gets open. This is a title fight, a one time opportunity for some, so he has to carefully plan how to win this fight as it's a big-ticket to his future success.

Though Donaire and Magsayo are carrying the Philippine flag, they have different promoters.
Don't know if they are close enough for Magsayo to ask advise from Donaire.
If Magsayo is under MP Promotions, he is already in good hands but the work will still be coming from his end.
And Russell as a defensive fighter, that would really make a difficult fight as you really need strategy on how to connect with him.
This is a make or break for Magsayo, so he should not take this fight lightly.

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Quote from: Fredomago on December 20, 2021, 01:43:17 PM

Magsayo needs to plan every strategy that he will use against Russell. A defensive fighter is the hard one to take down
it will take a lot of preparations for Magsayo.

He should seek some advice from Donaire, Magsayo sometimes does not conserve his energy, he loves to throw punches that are not accurate as he is thinking that he could KO someone who hits him without knowing his defense gets open. This is a title fight, a one time opportunity for some, so he has to carefully plan how to win this fight as it's a big-ticket to his future success.

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Yes, this is going to be a hard fought fight for Magsayo and it will take him a lot to win and upset Gary Russell because admit it, Russell has all the tools here. But then again, we can't discount the fact that Magsayo has power in both hands and it might make the difference here. If he has a perfect timing, then perhaps he will caught Russell when coming in and score a knock out win.

Looks like this will be the hardest fight for Mark Magsayo and he really needs to give every ounce of his strength in this one. Gary Russell has the best defensive strategy on their weight division, it's really a low percentage for him if he can land a good shot here. He needs to work on his speed because he already has the power. when fighting a strong opponent, reflexes and good defensive strategy when got caught with a hard-punching opponent is the best thing to have as a boxer. Nevertheless, I'm going to cheer for Magsayo to win this one since this will be his road to get to the top list in their weight division.

True, this is a big challenge as it is hard to offset a faster and accurate puncher like Russell.

And it's hard to beat him in the punch, the only thing I believed that can really neutralized it is to have good and perfect timing like Nonito Donaire has. I would say that Donaire has one of the best timing or counter puncher I have seen in a Pinoy. So he needs to study how Nonito fought and how he set up everything with his timing and score a knock out.

No doubt with Donaire's style of fighting, he's good with timing. He calculated well each opponent's attack and try to find the right opening to counter back and start to throw solid combination to create a good opening and a possible KO. If Magsayo will note that up and begin to find that same strategy, his chance to win will rise.

Timing with solid and strong punches like Donaire will be enough to compete with Russell,

Magsayo needs to plan every strategy that he will use against Russell. A defensive fighter is the hard one to take down
it will take a lot of preparations for Magsayo.

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Is Mark Magsayo also a champion?

I think he is just a challenger in this particular weight class or division and he is here to try to steal the belt of Gary Russell.
He is our pride, but to be honest, you are right that his lack of defense, and he always suffer his first defeat in his last fight if he was not able to KO his opponent.

Yep he's a challenger, Magsayo's doesn't have world champions title, he only have youth and asian title.

I wonder how effective is Russell perform and strategy if he only fight one a year, this fight there's 2 years gap since he doesn't have any fought last year. It's true he's active training and workout, but that's different when you fight in the ring. Sometimes, experience is more important than hard workout.

Not sure about the effect on him since he has been off in boxing for 2 years.

We've seen a lot of upsets lately because of ring rust, and everyone is not immune to it.

Yes, you are right, he is mostly in the Asian scene and not a champion in the major 4 belt. But I still consider him a champion though.

For sure, there will be an effect on Russell's side of not being able to fight in the ring professionally for almost 2 years now. Even though he's making an effort to practice, training and sparring every single day, it's still isn't enough because you're mind and body knows it isn't a real thing.
As for Magsayo, he's currently the underdog but the crowd favorite. He also have what it takes to make a difference and defeat Russell, sure this fight will be hard for Magsayo but it won't be long and Russell will be just a stepping stone to this asian title.

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Quote from: yazher on December 19, 2021, 09:32:57 PM

Quote from: Kemarit on December 19, 2021, 08:25:10 PM

Yes, this is going to be a hard fought fight for Magsayo and it will take him a lot to win and upset Gary Russell because admit it, Russell has all the tools here. But then again, we can't discount the fact that Magsayo has power in both hands and it might make the difference here. If he has a perfect timing, then perhaps he will caught Russell when coming in and score a knock out win.

Looks like this will be the hardest fight for Mark Magsayo and he really needs to give every ounce of his strength in this one. Gary Russell has the best defensive strategy on their weight division, it's really a low percentage for him if he can land a good shot here. He needs to work on his speed because he already has the power. when fighting a strong opponent, reflexes and good defensive strategy when got caught with a hard-punching opponent is the best thing to have as a boxer. Nevertheless, I'm going to cheer for Magsayo to win this one since this will be his road to get to the top list in their weight division.

Its hard for Magsayo to win this fight however there's no impossible in boxing right? With proper training and skills improvement he can have a chance to win this fight.

Its a chance to step up so I think he is motivated. So Magsayo really need to train hard in order to beat Russell and be known.

Speed and accuracy are Russel's edge, Magsayo needs to increase his stamina.

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Quote from: yazher on December 19, 2021, 09:32:57 PM

Quote from: Kemarit on December 19, 2021, 08:25:10 PM

Yes, this is going to be a hard fought fight for Magsayo and it will take him a lot to win and upset Gary Russell because admit it, Russell has all the tools here. But then again, we can't discount the fact that Magsayo has power in both hands and it might make the difference here. If he has a perfect timing, then perhaps he will caught Russell when coming in and score a knock out win.

Looks like this will be the hardest fight for Mark Magsayo and he really needs to give every ounce of his strength in this one. Gary Russell has the best defensive strategy on their weight division, it's really a low percentage for him if he can land a good shot here. He needs to work on his speed because he already has the power. when fighting a strong opponent, reflexes and good defensive strategy when got caught with a hard-punching opponent is the best thing to have as a boxer. Nevertheless, I'm going to cheer for Magsayo to win this one since this will be his road to get to the top list in their weight division.

True, this is a big challenge as it is hard to offset a faster and accurate puncher like Russell.

And it's hard to beat him in the punch, the only thing I believed that can really neutralized it is to have good and perfect timing like Nonito Donaire has. I would say that Donaire has one of the best timing or counter puncher I have seen in a Pinoy. So he needs to study how Nonito fought and how he set up everything with his timing and score a knock out.

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Quote from: Kemarit on December 19, 2021, 08:25:10 PM

Yes, this is going to be a hard fought fight for Magsayo and it will take him a lot to win and upset Gary Russell because admit it, Russell has all the tools here. But then again, we can't discount the fact that Magsayo has power in both hands and it might make the difference here. If he has a perfect timing, then perhaps he will caught Russell when coming in and score a knock out win.

Looks like this will be the hardest fight for Mark Magsayo and he really needs to give every ounce of his strength in this one. Gary Russell has the best defensive strategy on their weight division, it's really a low percentage for him if he can land a good shot here. He needs to work on his speed because he already has the power. when fighting a strong opponent, reflexes and good defensive strategy when got caught with a hard-punching opponent is the best thing to have as a boxer. Nevertheless, I'm going to cheer for Magsayo to win this one since this will be his road to get to the top list in their weight division.

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Not sure about the effect on him since he has been off in boxing for 2 years.

We've seen a lot of upsets lately because of ring rust, and everyone is not immune to it.

Yes, you are right, he is mostly in the Asian scene and not a champion in the major 4 belt. But I still consider him a champion though.

the time is still quite long and it must be put to good use for training and to make good conditions for his performance and speed and sharpness he is retrained.
as you said, this has been very old and can even be compared to an item, it has been stored for a long time and has started to rust so it needs to be sharpened again so that it is like before.
I hope for something good for him but of course this now depends on the effort he puts into making the most of this time

Mark Magsayo has the edge if we are talking about who is more active in the ring, but Gary Russell is a champion, so it's hard to underestimate his capability, and though Magsayo won his last fight but he wasn't so impressive if not of that KO win. Honestly, I'm also concerned on how Magsayo will beat Russell since he hasn't fought someone like him before.

Yes, this is going to be a hard fought fight for Magsayo and it will take him a lot to win and upset Gary Russell because admit it, Russell has all the tools here. But then again, we can't discount the fact that Magsayo has power in both hands and it might make the difference here. If he has a perfect timing, then perhaps he will caught Russell when coming in and score a knock out win.

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Quote from: Baofeng on December 19, 2021, 12:59:48 PM

Not sure about the effect on him since he has been off in boxing for 2 years.

We've seen a lot of upsets lately because of ring rust, and everyone is not immune to it.

Yes, you are right, he is mostly in the Asian scene and not a champion in the major 4 belt. But I still consider him a champion though.

the time is still quite long and it must be put to good use for training and to make good conditions for his performance and speed and sharpness he is retrained.
as you said, this has been very old and can even be compared to an item, it has been stored for a long time and has started to rust so it needs to be sharpened again so that it is like before.
I hope for something good for him but of course this now depends on the effort he puts into making the most of this time

Mark Magsayo has the edge if we are talking about who is more active in the ring, but Gary Russell is a champion, so it's hard to underestimate his capability, and though Magsayo won his last fight but he wasn't so impressive if not of that KO win. Honestly, I'm also concerned on how Magsayo will beat Russell since he hasn't fought someone like him before.

In this case, I actually don't really know what magsayo is like and how because I've never seen a fight from this boxer.
and i still believe that russel can still handle this even though he hasn't competed in a long time.
but on the other hand maybe I will now look at some magsayo matches to be able to compare how clear the odds of these two boxers are

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Quote from: Alanaz on December 19, 2021, 01:16:34 PM

Quote from: Baofeng on December 19, 2021, 12:59:48 PM

Not sure about the effect on him since he has been off in boxing for 2 years.

We've seen a lot of upsets lately because of ring rust, and everyone is not immune to it.

Yes, you are right, he is mostly in the Asian scene and not a champion in the major 4 belt. But I still consider him a champion though.

the time is still quite long and it must be put to good use for training and to make good conditions for his performance and speed and sharpness he is retrained.
as you said, this has been very old and can even be compared to an item, it has been stored for a long time and has started to rust so it needs to be sharpened again so that it is like before.
I hope for something good for him but of course this now depends on the effort he puts into making the most of this time

Mark Magsayo has the edge if we are talking about who is more active in the ring, but Gary Russell is a champion, so it's hard to underestimate his capability, and though Magsayo won his last fight but he wasn't so impressive if not of that KO win. Honestly, I'm also concerned on how Magsayo will beat Russell since he hasn't fought someone like him before.

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