[Boxing] Gary Russell vs Mark Magsayo WBC Featherweight Title - page 20.

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Quote from: Oceat on December 12, 2021, 12:39:34 PM

Yeah, more would choose Russell here than the underdog Magsayo since he's the one that they know most but he's quite inactive in the past. If we compare Magsayo on Russell, Magsayo is well-prepared than Russell although we don't know what he's been doing when he's not on the ring lately plus he's still the belt holder.

Actually, Magsayo is more popular compare to Russell here in this thread.

It's just that, even for locals, we can't really deny the fact that Russell is a big thing and the gap is really wide for the likes of Magsayo. However, it doesn't mean that an upset is not possible to happen.

It's a good show to watch at the start of the 1Q of 2022. I hope more PH boxers will pull some wins next year.

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Yeah, more would choose Russell here than the underdog Magsayo since he's the one that they know most but he's quite inactive in the past. If we compare Magsayo on Russell, Magsayo is well-prepared than Russell although we don't know what he's been doing when he's not on the ring lately plus he's still the belt holder.

I think it's gonna be an interesting fight next year and at this moment I still don't know which one should I choose that's worthy to bet. Both of them are a good fighter although Magsayo is still undefeated but Russell has more experience in the ring. If there's an odd here the lead would goes to Russell imo.

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Quote from: Jawhead999 on December 11, 2021, 09:21:59 PM

This is another good fight and worthy bet an underdog, Magsayo has a good chance to beat Russell. Take a look with his record he's still undefeated and already fight many good boxer.

Right, I think Magsayo has a better chance to pull an upset and beat Russell.

He has the power to back it up, and if that hits then it will be over.

Quote from: Jawhead999 on December 11, 2021, 09:21:59 PM

I wonder why Russell is only defending his belt instead of taking more belts? This guy only have WBC featherweight, if he lose he wouldn't have any belt. Probably he don't want to harm his record, as the previously he lose when he want to obtain WBO featerweight from Loma.

He seldom fights and I would say that he wasted a lot of time and he should have chase more belts in the last 3 years instead of fighting just a couple. Maybe boxers are don't want to fight him or just want to protect his belt.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on December 07, 2021, 08:11:01 PM

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What's your thought on this fight guys.

https://www.boxingscene.com/gary-russell-face-mark-magsayo-showtime-main-event-january-22-site-tbd--162594

I will not give my own thoughts here mate because you are the one who is good for this Grin

you are the boxing expert for me as you keep winning in your bets in every bout happens here in gambling section Grin

instead i will wait for your update in which one you are going to put your bet haha.

or at least i can ask you through PM if you will allow me Grin

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This is another good fight and worthy bet an underdog, Magsayo has a good chance to beat Russell. Take a look with his record he's still undefeated and already fight many good boxer.

I wonder why Russell is only defending his belt instead of taking more belts? This guy only have WBC featherweight, if he lose he wouldn't have any belt. Probably he don't want to harm his record, as the previously he lose when he want to obtain WBO featerweight from Loma.

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Regardless of the status of how strong Gary Russell is, it's a good bet that Magsayo is the underdog. In that way, I will not have any difficulty placing my bet since I will be biased on that match. Expecting at least @3 or @4 odds for Magsayo once the bookies now listed the match.

Magsayo I'm sure will give his best as if he loses that match, his bid for a much higher target will wait for long.

Russell Jr is the classic example of trying to go on your own without a good promoter. The dude fights like once every 3 years lol. That said, he's one of the most skilled fighters out there. Honestly, I don't think Magsayo have hope with Russell, Russell is a tested fighter

Lol, I made a quick run-through on the fights of Russell and you are right, this guy needs Bob Arum Grin

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One thing I've noticed also is that the quality of opposition that Russell has is not quite impressive for me, only Loma is the big name that he has fought.

For sure Magsayo will be the underdog on this one but how much we will win in case we bet for him remains to be seen but regardless of the number I will still be backing MMM because he has that power punch that could make the opponent face the canvass. Last time around, he was behind on the scorecards but when that power punch landed, everything was history but that doesn't mean he has to always do that way, he has to devise a plan on how to counter the footwork of Gary.

i do agree with that, because last time, he just got this lucky punch, if not, he won't win that fight as he was losing. so he needs to run down his strategies on how to get ahead even in the first rounds. don't wait to use that punch because it may never come the next time around.
as he is the challenger on this match, he should be the aggressive one, if not, he won't get the belt and may just end up as UD in favour for russell.

Yeah, that's one complain about Russell though, he is good but haven't been tested against a good opposition on the last 3 years and then he claims he is one of the best in the division. To be honest, he is really that good when I first saw his fight, skill wise he could be one of the top in this division but he doesn't want to extend and again fought good boxers maybe except now as he will face what he thinks is the weaker champion in his division. But he will be wrong if Magsayo caught that chin of his.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on December 11, 2021, 06:17:00 PM

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Quote from: agustina2 on December 11, 2021, 04:25:10 AM

Regardless of the status of how strong Gary Russell is, it's a good bet that Magsayo is the underdog. In that way, I will not have any difficulty placing my bet since I will be biased on that match. Expecting at least @3 or @4 odds for Magsayo once the bookies now listed the match.

Magsayo I'm sure will give his best as if he loses that match, his bid for a much higher target will wait for long.

Russell Jr is the classic example of trying to go on your own without a good promoter. The dude fights like once every 3 years lol. That said, he's one of the most skilled fighters out there. Honestly, I don't think Magsayo have hope with Russell, Russell is a tested fighter

Lol, I made a quick run-through on the fights of Russell and you are right, this guy needs Bob Arum Grin

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One thing I've noticed also is that the quality of opposition that Russell has is not quite impressive for me, only Loma is the big name that he has fought.

For sure Magsayo will be the underdog on this one but how much we will win in case we bet for him remains to be seen but regardless of the number I will still be backing MMM because he has that power punch that could make the opponent face the canvass. Last time around, he was behind on the scorecards but when that power punch landed, everything was history but that doesn't mean he has to always do that way, he has to devise a plan on how to counter the footwork of Gary.

i do agree with that, because last time, he just got this lucky punch, if not, he won't win that fight as he was losing. so he needs to run down his strategies on how to get ahead even in the first rounds. don't wait to use that punch because it may never come the next time around.
as he is the challenger on this match, he should be the aggressive one, if not, he won't get the belt and may just end up as UD in favour for russell.

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on December 11, 2021, 05:27:33 AM

Quote from: agustina2 on December 11, 2021, 04:25:10 AM

Regardless of the status of how strong Gary Russell is, it's a good bet that Magsayo is the underdog. In that way, I will not have any difficulty placing my bet since I will be biased on that match. Expecting at least @3 or @4 odds for Magsayo once the bookies now listed the match.

Magsayo I'm sure will give his best as if he loses that match, his bid for a much higher target will wait for long.

Russell Jr is the classic example of trying to go on your own without a good promoter. The dude fights like once every 3 years lol. That said, he's one of the most skilled fighters out there. Honestly, I don't think Magsayo have hope with Russell, Russell is a tested fighter

Lol, I made a quick run-through on the fights of Russell and you are right, this guy needs Bob Arum Grin

.

One thing I've noticed also is that the quality of opposition that Russell has is not quite impressive for me, only Loma is the big name that he has fought.

For sure Magsayo will be the underdog on this one but how much we will win in case we bet for him remains to be seen but regardless of the number I will still be backing MMM because he has that power punch that could make the opponent face the canvass. Last time around, he was behind on the scorecards but when that power punch landed, everything was history but that doesn't mean he has to always do that way, he has to devise a plan on how to counter the footwork of Gary.

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Quote from: agustina2 on December 11, 2021, 04:25:10 AM

Regardless of the status of how strong Gary Russell is, it's a good bet that Magsayo is the underdog. In that way, I will not have any difficulty placing my bet since I will be biased on that match. Expecting at least @3 or @4 odds for Magsayo once the bookies now listed the match.

Magsayo I'm sure will give his best as if he loses that match, his bid for a much higher target will wait for long.

Russell Jr is the classic example of trying to go on your own without a good promoter. The dude fights like once every 3 years lol. That said, he's one of the most skilled fighters out there. Honestly, I don't think Magsayo have hope with Russell, Russell is a tested fighter

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Regardless of the status of how strong Gary Russell is, it's a good bet that Magsayo is the underdog. In that way, I will not have any difficulty placing my bet since I will be biased on that match. Expecting at least @3 or @4 odds for Magsayo once the bookies now listed the match.

Magsayo I'm sure will give his best as if he loses that match, his bid for a much higher target will wait for long.

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Quote from: Natalim on December 10, 2021, 10:15:31 AM

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I think it will be an exciting match. I have seen plays of Russell and indeed he is a great boxer. His footwork, form, speed and powerful punches. His stamina could keep up until the 12th but I guess it will depend on how this opponent might bring up during the first rounds. The only thing I have noticed was somehow he struggles with his reach especially with taller opponent but nothing else. With Magsayo, I think he was trained very well. He has this powerful punches that I am hoping to see during this fight. He just needs to know how to land them properly. Hopefully he could keep up with Russell until the end of the round. I have seen some of his KO fights and I think he surges early, might fatigue early too.

This is a good match for Gary Russell and a great challenge for Mark Magsayo to achieve his dream. He is undefeated coming from a sensational KO win against Julio Ceja, so Russell knows how strong his punch is and he will prepare for that fight well to defend his belt. I'm rooting for the challenger here.

I would also route for Magsayo in this fight. Not that I see it would be easy but I like to be surprised on how he will be handling the holder. Russell do know how to play the fight. I have also watched the fight between Magsayo and Ceja and it was a clear KO though the had some difficulties on his part. Ceja was a bit aggressive and they both got tired half way. I think Magsayo could pull this out if he does the same with Russell because I think he could tire him for sure.

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Quote from: Vannie12 on December 10, 2021, 10:02:19 AM

I think it will be an exciting match. I have seen plays of Russell and indeed he is a great boxer. His footwork, form, speed and powerful punches. His stamina could keep up until the 12th but I guess it will depend on how this opponent might bring up during the first rounds. The only thing I have noticed was somehow he struggles with his reach especially with taller opponent but nothing else. With Magsayo, I think he was trained very well. He has this powerful punches that I am hoping to see during this fight. He just needs to know how to land them properly. Hopefully he could keep up with Russell until the end of the round. I have seen some of his KO fights and I think he surges early, might fatigue early too.

This is a good match for Gary Russell and a great challenge for Mark Magsayo to achieve his dream. He is undefeated coming from a sensational KO win against Julio Ceja, so Russell knows how strong his punch is and he will prepare for that fight well to defend his belt. I'm rooting for the challenger here.

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I think it will be an exciting match. I have seen plays of Russell and indeed he is a great boxer. His footwork, form, speed and powerful punches. His stamina could keep up until the 12th but I guess it will depend on how this opponent might bring up during the first rounds. The only thing I have noticed was somehow he struggles with his reach especially with taller opponent but nothing else. With Magsayo, I think he was trained very well. He has this powerful punches that I am hoping to see during this fight. He just needs to know how to land them properly. Hopefully he could keep up with Russell until the end of the round. I have seen some of his KO fights and I think he surges early, might fatigue early too.

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Quote from: molsewid on December 09, 2021, 03:52:29 AM

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I've seen some of the toughest fights of Russell and the only guy who has beaten him was Lomachenko this dud loves to mix it up and engage like Ceja, but the big difference is Russell has a knock out power, Magsayo will be fighting the fight of his life just like Kambosos and he should be 100% ready, to mix it up and fight Russell power to power, I'm picking Magsayo to win by knockout he has a puncher chance because of his ability to knock opponents with one punch.

It is undeniable that Gary Russell has a good footwork and hand speed which I think was his advantage over Mark Magsayo and this fight might be the first defeated record of Magsayo but I didn't belittle Filipino fighter because we all knew that the spirit of a Filipino fighter unfold once they are inside the ring. I think that with this upcoming fight Mark Magsayo is the underdog but I am also picking Magsayo to win this game either by knock out or by unanimous decision.

Filipinos are known to have huge power as well, they might not have the proper training in the beginning specially about footwork and others, but they make it up by developing power on both hands.

So if Magsayo landed a solid punch on Russell, maybe he will knock him out because Russell is not known to have a good chin. And that is the chance that Magsayo should work out, his timing in order to make another upset in this division although he is a champion himself. But the biggest price is the WBC title.

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Quote from: aioc on December 08, 2021, 09:52:48 PM

I've seen some of the toughest fights of Russell and the only guy who has beaten him was Lomachenko this dud loves to mix it up and engage like Ceja, but the big difference is Russell has a knock out power, Magsayo will be fighting the fight of his life just like Kambosos and he should be 100% ready, to mix it up and fight Russell power to power, I'm picking Magsayo to win by knockout he has a puncher chance because of his ability to knock opponents with one punch.

It is undeniable that Gary Russell has a good footwork and hand speed which I think was his advantage over Mark Magsayo and this fight might be the first defeated record of Magsayo but I didn't belittle Filipino fighter because we all knew that the spirit of a Filipino fighter unfold once they are inside the ring. I think that with this upcoming fight Mark Magsayo is the underdog but I am also picking Magsayo to win this game either by knock out or by unanimous decision.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on December 07, 2021, 08:11:01 PM

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Mark "Magnifico" Magsayo's dream shot at the world is now becoming a reality after WBC has mandated the champ Gary Russell to defend his title against the dangerous Boholano slugger Mark Magsayo.

This is a very dangerous fight for both but I think that Magsayo is ripe for this shot and this is some sort of a reward for the sacrifices that he made, being in the US training and waiting for his fights to come.

Though no odds are release yet but i think Russell will be the favorite here.

What's your thought on this fight guys.

https://www.boxingscene.com/gary-russell-face-mark-magsayo-showtime-main-event-january-22-site-tbd--162594

I've seen some of the toughest fight of Russell and the only guy who has beaten him was Lomachenko this dud loves to mix it up and engage like Ceja, but the big difference is Russell has a knock out power, Magsayo will be fighting the fight of his life just like Kambosos and he should be 100% ready, to mix it up and fight Russell power to power, I'm picking Magsayo to win by knockout he has a puncher chance because of his ability to knock opponents with one punch.

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Gerry Peñalosa said that Magsayo is a bad match-up for Gary Russell Jr.

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“Russell is way better than Ceja so it cannot be compared. Russell is on a different level stylistically. He has good footwork and hand speed though if he gets hit by Mark he can go down,” he said.

Well, he has a point, so this is a good challenge for Magsayo to train harder as this is his best shot to win a belt from a champion.
He is still young though... If he loses his career will not end but it's better if he will win this fight.

Not only his stamina has to be improved, but he also needs to improve his boxing skills as he could not be lucky everyday to score a knockout as he did in his previous fight.

Good analysis by Gerry Peñalosa here, yes I do agree that it will be a bad match up for Magsayo.

The foot work alone of Russell might make Mark Magsayo chase him all around and it could affect his strategy because he has to find that opening.

And Gary Russell has a good boxing IQ and good defense as well, so it's going to be difficult for Mark to even corner him so that he can give one power punch. Ceja is more of a brawler while Russell is a technical fighter, and any time a style like that, a technical boxer wins majority of it.

True, but you can't underestimate the heart of a Filipino, for sure Gerry knows that because he himself was a underdog against Jhonny Gonzalez of Mexico and won it via KO (body shot).

So there is a chance that even though Magsayo will be the huge underdog here based on his so-so performance against Ceja, this is still a winnable fight for him. He just go there with the correct mindset that he can win and knockout his opponent and bring glory to the country again.

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Quote from: Questat on December 08, 2021, 04:04:35 PM

Gerry Peñalosa said that Magsayo is a bad match-up for Gary Russell Jr.

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“Russell is way better than Ceja so it cannot be compared. Russell is on a different level stylistically. He has good footwork and hand speed though if he gets hit by Mark he can go down,” he said.

Well, he has a point, so this is a good challenge for Magsayo to train harder as this is his best shot to win a belt from a champion.
He is still young though... If he loses his career will not end but it's better if he will win this fight.

Not only his stamina has to be improved, but he also needs to improve his boxing skills as he could not be lucky everyday to score a knockout as he did in his previous fight.

Good analysis by Gerry Peñalosa here, yes I do agree that it will be a bad match up for Magsayo.

The foot work alone of Russell might make Mark Magsayo chase him all around and it could affect his strategy because he has to find that opening.

And Gary Russell has a good boxing IQ and good defense as well, so it's going to be difficult for Mark to even corner him so that he can give one power punch. Ceja is more of a brawler while Russell is a technical fighter, and any time a style like that, a technical boxer wins majority of it.

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Quote from: Maslate on December 08, 2021, 05:21:16 PM

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I'm not impressed with Magsayo's last fight although he won by KO but he needed that to win the fight because if it goes to the scorecard, he would have lose that fight.

This fight with Gary Russell is probably the biggest fight of his career, and though I am not impressed in his previous fight but I would back him to win this fight, not because I think he is better than Russell but because I believe he has a good shot of winning and the odds is very convincing for sure since Magsayo is the underdog.

Recovering from getting knocked and then won by KO is a lot impressive, Not all who got knocked got up and beat the champ.

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Gary Russell Jr. will end the longest layoff of his career January 22.

He had not fought for almost 2 years, I think he really needs to have good substantial training for his comeback. With Magsayo as his contender who recently got his title this year, he will probably come out as a winner.

Let's see how this fight will go, Magsayo is a rising star in boxing and Russell is a champion who will defend his title. I'm sure it's not gonna be easy for Magsayo, but if he will work hard enough, he definitely has a shot here, and the best thing he should do is to win by KO.

For all the marbles, I think this should be a must win for Magsayo. No pressure, but I think if he win in impressive fashion against the much touted American, Magsayo stocks will go up.

Yeah, indeed hard work and training and trust to himself that he can pull a big upset because he will be the underdog here. But he was the weapon which is his right hand and for sure Russell knows that. So Magsayo should rely on his power and make Russell very uncomfortable if he wanted a chance to win.

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Quote from: enhu on December 07, 2021, 11:32:54 PM

Quote from: Maslate on December 07, 2021, 10:17:56 PM

I'm not impressed with Magsayo's last fight although he won by KO but he needed that to win the fight because if it goes to the scorecard, he would have lose that fight.

This fight with Gary Russell is probably the biggest fight of his career, and though I am not impressed in his previous fight but I would back him to win this fight, not because I think he is better than Russell but because I believe he has a good shot of winning and the odds is very convincing for sure since Magsayo is the underdog.

Recovering from getting knocked and then won by KO is a lot impressive, Not all who got knocked got up and beat the champ.

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Gary Russell Jr. will end the longest layoff of his career January 22.

He had not fought for almost 2 years, I think he really needs to have good substantial training for his comeback. With Magsayo as his contender who recently got his title this year, he will probably come out as a winner.

Let's see how this fight will go, Magsayo is a rising star in boxing and Russell is a champion who will defend his title. I'm sure it's not gonna be easy for Magsayo, but if he will work hard enough, he definitely has a shot here, and the best thing he should do is to win by KO.

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