[Boxing]: GGG vs Murata - Reschedule - page 33.

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Quote from: harizen on November 25, 2021, 06:08:36 PM

Quote from: South Park on November 25, 2021, 02:36:50 PM

I am not saying that he will forget how to fight but that he could come a little bit rusty and against a fighter like GGG that can be more than enough to secure him a win.

Regardless of Murata is active or not within the past 2 years, I already pointed out his experience is lacking compared to GGG. Murata's total fight was 16 against Canelo's 43 with almost a clean record, the gap was too wide. Murata just also consider to bout with GGG because he filled the vacant slot that was left by Canelo as we know the latter is moving up a weight class. Again as I previously mentioned, Murata got the full WBA Super Middleweight champion not by fighting for it. The fight against GGG is his first fight since attaining that title.

Right, and the level of opposition of GGG as compare to Murata is very diferent. GGG has far fight superior level of boxers, while I would say that Murata only B-level fighters. And add that to his ring rust and inactivity for 2 years and we will see that GGG has all the advantage. The only thing that has on Murata is that he is fighting on a familiar territory, because this fight will be in Japan.

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Quote from: Obito on November 18, 2021, 11:11:24 AM

There's probably enough time, I mean look at Pacquiao he's still fighting although a looming consideration of retirement. I think it's still not that bad that GGG is still fighting, I mean look at this perspective, see those years as experience accumulated which is an advantage rather than a disadvantage.

Yes experience matter and it's an advantage in all sorts of sports even though the fighter is quite aging already. But wether we like it or not, aging process can be your weakness even tho GGG is just a 39 yrs old veteran fighter and his opponent is 35 and still on his prime.
On the other hand, Murata is also a beast and this fight wil take place in his country. That is also an advantage in Muratas favor.

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Quote from: South Park on November 25, 2021, 02:36:50 PM

I am not saying that he will forget how to fight but that he could come a little bit rusty and against a fighter like GGG that can be more than enough to secure him a win.

Regardless of Murata is active or not within the past 2 years, I already pointed out his experience is lacking compared to GGG. Murata's total fight was 16 against Canelo's 43 with almost a clean record, the gap was too wide. Murata just also consider to bout with GGG because he filled the vacant slot that was left by Canelo as we know the latter is moving up a weight class. Again as I previously mentioned, Murata got the full WBA Super Middleweight champion not by fighting for it. The fight against GGG is his first fight since attaining that title.

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GGG   - 19 (100%)
Murata   - 0 (0%)
Draw   - 0 (0%)

The boxing community in this forum still trust Golovkin's power, old but still pack a powerful punch, a boxer is judged on his last fight and we have seen him still good in his last fight, I think the Canelo fight that we all hope for will not happen anymore because Canelo is moving to Cruiserweight, but he still can unite all the belt in his division like what Canelo has done.

Actually, it's not only the trust but GGG is seen as the most popular here compare to Murata. I'm pretty sure that 70%-80% of users in this forum don't know, are not familiar, or heard the name of Murata.

But regardless, GGG is really at the advantage here. Age is not a concern as experience is a must. He should be able to deal with Murata without having a major problem or difficulties.

In terms of popularities worldwide, GGG is the most favorite here.

It's true that more not just from here but also from the outside are not familiar with Murata, aside from his local fans and those
who follow him, the name is not as recognized compared with GGG.

It's nice to see if how GGG will take this fight. If he still has that good stamina, we will see more upcoming fight for him.

His physical capabilities still the concern but again, if that not show any much change from his past fights, more interest for him from both fans and promoters.

No doubt on being highly favorite on this one yet we know on how popular GGG is which is understandable basing off on the statistics that he does have then it cant really denied actually and its true that only few knows about Murata but doesnt mean that he would belittle him
even though its hard to believe that GGG would lose this one but he should take this match seriously and dont be confident.

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GGG   - 19 (100%)
Murata   - 0 (0%)
Draw   - 0 (0%)

The boxing community in this forum still trust Golovkin's power, old but still pack a powerful punch, a boxer is judged on his last fight and we have seen him still good in his last fight, I think the Canelo fight that we all hope for will not happen anymore because Canelo is moving to Cruiserweight, but he still can unite all the belt in his division like what Canelo has done.

Actually, it's not only the trust but GGG is seen as the most popular here compare to Murata. I'm pretty sure that 70%-80% of users in this forum don't know, are not familiar, or heard the name of Murata.

But regardless, GGG is really at the advantage here. Age is not a concern as experience is a must. He should be able to deal with Murata without having a major problem or difficulties.

In terms of popularities worldwide, GGG is the most favorite here.

It's true that more not just from here but also from the outside are not familiar with Murata, aside from his local fans and those
who follow him, the name is not as recognized compared with GGG.

It's nice to see if how GGG will take this fight. If he still has that good stamina, we will see more upcoming fight for him.

His physical capabilities still the concern but again, if that not show any much change from his past fights, more interest for him from both fans and promoters.

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Quote from: South Park on November 25, 2021, 02:36:50 PM

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But GGG should be the outstanding favourite here, even if the odds are not yet out.

His only lost is to Canelo but others think otherwise, plus he is the more active of the two, while Murata is out for two years.

Although GGG will be 40 years old, we think that still have the determination to become the greatest MW of all time. He has defended his belt many times already and I don't think that Murata will be the one that is going to stop GGG at this point.

The fact that GGG has been more active lately is something that is going to be important during the fight, boxing is like any skill, if you do not use it you run the risk of that skill deteriorating, in the case of GGG this is not going to be much of an issue as he has been fighting all his life, but Murata is young so this could play against him, I am not saying that he will forget how to fight but that he could come a little bit rusty and against a fighter like GGG that can be more than enough to secure him a win.

Will see, as though these boxers are not active lately but with their record, it shows they are maintaining themselves to be ready all the time, so I don't think that word "rusty" is something big enough to consider a fighter might have a disadvantage. Per record and based on the fights I saw, I would always favor GGG to win this fight, no ifs.

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Quote from: TravelMug on November 17, 2021, 11:55:12 PM

But GGG should be the outstanding favourite here, even if the odds are not yet out.

His only lost is to Canelo but others think otherwise, plus he is the more active of the two, while Murata is out for two years.

Although GGG will be 40 years old, we think that still have the determination to become the greatest MW of all time. He has defended his belt many times already and I don't think that Murata will be the one that is going to stop GGG at this point.

The fact that GGG has been more active lately is something that is going to be important during the fight, boxing is like any skill, if you do not use it you run the risk of that skill deteriorating, in the case of GGG this is not going to be much of an issue as he has been fighting all his life, but Murata is young so this could play against him, I am not saying that he will forget how to fight but that he could come a little bit rusty and against a fighter like GGG that can be more than enough to secure him a win.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on November 23, 2021, 05:55:42 PM

however I say something important, boxing is boxing, anything can happen.

If you mean Murata can upset, yes that's always possible as anything can happen but in boxing, statistics is far more correct and accurate. 80% of most analysis are proven to be effective in predicting who will win. Don't want to conclude early but I already mentioned some pointers of why GGG has an advantage. Murata again, just leveled up his status to fill the slot of someone. He didn't fight for that and that's what's makes me think that no upset will happen. We have no strong reference to look at on what part where Murata will have an advantage.

Who knows though.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on November 23, 2021, 05:55:42 PM

After seeing the knockout that Crawford gave Porter, I think the statistics of all the fighters are the most correct that I have seen, however I say something important, boxing is boxing, anything can happen.

Yep. Anything can happen in boxing underdogs always have the chance to win. However, great boxers doesn't usually fall against the most obvious underdog.
GGG belongs to those great fighters. He obviously almost every advantage against the Japanese boxer Murata.
I'm not underestimating Murata here, but this is just another boxing match where we know whos gonna win.
What the fans are looking here is whether or not Murata could give us a good fight against GGG.

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GGG is a great athlete ...

The main complaint about him is that he has always boxed in the same weight class. Because of this, he missed the chance to fight very strong boxers. GGG has its own style of boxing. His fighting style is very original. He literally crushes his opponent. Power jab looks amazing. GGG moves perfectly around the ring, trying to pin the opponent to the ropes.

Murata is a very worthy opponent. He is the favorite of all Japan. And it is deserved. He has a lot of experience in amateur fighting. And in these fights, he showed willpower worthy of a samurai. He is also very strong physically. However, it lacks the agility and lightness of the GGG. The fight promises to be very interesting.

In my opinion, GGG has a better chance of winning.

Just hope GGG does not suddenly show his age and fall to pieces under Murata's pressure style. GGG is still good, make no mistake about that, but he is not the fighter he once was. I. E. when he fought Canelo a couple of years back. The winner of this fight should take on Canelo who has been boxing against light hitting fighters as of late. Both GGG and Murata have the power to trouble Canelo. Even at 39, GGG can still punch hard although his work rate and footwork is not what it once was.

A fight with Canelo seems unlikely as there are reports that he wants to move up and fight in a heavier division, if this happened then the chances of seeing GGG vs Canelo III will be basically zero.

It seems he is moving to cruiserweight and will challenge Makabu for a world championship on the division, so once Canelo makes up that move then there is no way for Canelo to fight GGG as it would be too taxing on his body to lose all of that weight.

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However, talking about GGG and Murata upcoming fight I found out that GGG were more likely has a lot of experience than Murata but in case betting odds were available I would going to

Yes, GGG's 43 fights over Murata's 16, their experience has a large distance. We should also take note that on that 43 fights of GGG, he only lost 1 by decision (against Canelo) and that's a controversial one. Almost a perfect and clean record.

This will be a tough job for Murata. He just attained the full WBA Super Middleweight champion because Canelo vacant the position. He should prove now that he deserves that status by pulverizing GGG.

Still can't think of how Murata will be able to snatch a win against GGG. The gap is so wide.

The gap was so indeed wide and its really hard to believe on that Murata could really take down GGG even though hes older but doesnt mean that he wouldnt be wiped out his ass on this fight.

Its true that the position was vacant on what Canelo had decided which that was an easy one but proving out on upcoming challengers would really be a tough one.

GGG would be clearly the true winner on here without any doubts but lets see if Murata would give out a good fight.

For sure Murata will give out a good fight, remember that this is going to happen in his home country of Japan so he has the advantage of the ring and then the climate and obviously, the fans that are going to watch it live are going to root for their national hero.

But GGG has been in many wars based on the number of his fights and the level of opposition he has face. So in the end, GGG might prevail with his experience here.

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I never thought of this angle, when you said he did not fight anyone above his weight class i had to check his career record and the weight class he fought throughout his career and it is true that all of his fights are in the middleweight division. Now he is 39 years and i doubt he will be moving up in weight, but when he did that in his prime he could have won most of the matches.

Even though he is at the peak of his career, he is still one of the best boxers who step up in the ring and this upcoming fight will be no different from the other fight where he beat every opponent with a knockout except for a few. more likely this fight would end in the early rounds like the last Japanese fighter he fought which was quickly ended in the eight-round due to multiple one-sided punches by GGG.

Well, it hopes that he is in good shape during the fight as with his age, to fight a higher division from its normal catch weight is a difficult unless if he did this for many times. We know that GGG is one of the heavy punchers in boxing plus his experience fighting big names at his division gives the advantage but I'm in doubt about this new plan. Maybe we wanted to push himself to the limit before going to retire like MP.

Despite many things and opinions we cannot forget who GGG is, he is apart a fighter very loved by his fans, I personally like his fighting style, besides that he is very direct and it is like that style that the old school had. Like Ali's, Tyson, for me GGG has that decisive style, which does not take into account little ones but the true essence of the fight.

After seeing the knockout that Crawford gave Porter, I think the statistics of all the fighters are the most correct that I have seen, however I say something important, boxing is boxing, anything can happen.

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Quote from: harizen on November 21, 2021, 11:28:24 PM

Quote from: molsewid on November 21, 2021, 11:07:14 PM

However, talking about GGG and Murata upcoming fight I found out that GGG were more likely has a lot of experience than Murata but in case betting odds were available I would going to

Yes, GGG's 43 fights over Murata's 16, their experience has a large distance. We should also take note that on that 43 fights of GGG, he only lost 1 by decision (against Canelo) and that's a controversial one. Almost a perfect and clean record.

This will be a tough job for Murata. He just attained the full WBA Super Middleweight champion because Canelo vacant the position. He should prove now that he deserves that status by pulverizing GGG.

Still can't think of how Murata will be able to snatch a win against GGG. The gap is so wide.

The gap was so indeed wide and its really hard to believe on that Murata could really take down GGG even though hes older but doesnt mean that he wouldnt be wiped out his ass on this fight.

Its true that the position was vacant on what Canelo had decided which that was an easy one but proving out on upcoming challengers would really be a tough one.

GGG would be clearly the true winner on here without any doubts but lets see if Murata would give out a good fight.

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Quote from: harizen on November 21, 2021, 11:28:24 PM

Still can't think of how Murata will be able to snatch a win against GGG. The gap is so wide.

Same here, Murata is just like fighting the equivalent of Canelo because GGG is as good as Canelo though he does not achieve the kind of success Canelo had. I haven't seen a KO win by GGG for a while now, I might see it in this fight.

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Quote from: molsewid on November 21, 2021, 11:07:14 PM

However, talking about GGG and Murata upcoming fight I found out that GGG were more likely has a lot of experience than Murata but in case betting odds were available I would going to

Yes, GGG's 43 fights over Murata's 16, their experience has a large distance. We should also take note that on that 43 fights of GGG, he only lost 1 by decision (against Canelo) and that's a controversial one. Almost a perfect and clean record.

This will be a tough job for Murata. He just attained the full WBA Super Middleweight champion because Canelo vacant the position. He should prove now that he deserves that status by pulverizing GGG.

Still can't think of how Murata will be able to snatch a win against GGG. The gap is so wide.

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Quote from: TimeTeller on November 21, 2021, 06:44:57 PM

Being undefeated is not so great if you are just choosing your next opponent.
This is why a lot are not believing on Mayweather's achievement, aside from the fact that his style inside the ring is boring.
But when it comes to Pacquiao, he lost in some of his fights, but he gave a very good performance every time.
He was not afraid who will challenge him. This is why a lot of boxing fans love this guy.
So let's wait and see for this upcoming fight. I am with GGG here and no doubt the poll is 100% in favor of GGG here.

Being undefeated is indeed gives an appealing record to a boxer whenever a bettor search his name however, if only a bettor could look the way the boxer fight inside the ring and look for other aspects than relying on the record basis alone they could distinguish the most amazing thing about the fighter than the score board. I am not also a fan of Mayweather because of his achievement, I saw this man a full of boastfulness and crediting only his own achievement. Though, he's a good fighter but not appealing to me as a boxing fans. However, talking about GGG and Murata upcoming fight I found out that GGG were more likely has a lot of experience than Murata but in case betting odds were available I would going to

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^^ I do agree, you can still be great even if you have losses in your resume, great example, the legendary Manny Pacquiao.

And this can be said on GGG as well, could be very well one of the best MW even if he has a lost against Canelo Alvarez (but it is debatable).

And if ever he won against Murata here, his legacy will be far above the rest of the current MW in the last 10-20 years.

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The main complaint about him is that he has always boxed in the same weight class. Because of this, he missed the chance to fight very strong boxers. GGG has its own style of boxing. His fighting style is very original. He literally crushes his opponent. Power jab looks amazing. GGG moves perfectly around the ring, trying to pin the opponent to the ropes.

I don't think the weight class is the main issues to fight with top boxers, he already fight with Canelo Alvarez (the best middleweight class) but the thing he's lost. It will be different if he win from Alvarez, obviously he will be moved to Light heavyweight class.

Anyway Murata is one of good boxer in this class, if he lose then he shouldn't move to other class.

One of the toughest challenge or gamble for a certain boxer is that they would decide on stepping up on a certain or higher division which could really be that dangerous yet you know that there are fighters which are stronger but it doesnt mean that it cant be handled yet we know there are boxers who had able to attained several weight divisions.

For the best time being then staying up with the current division would be ideal and its true that Murata is really something good on this class so he shouldnt really be that confident.

It's not hard if he is not thinking of not risking his undefeated record. It's a challenge IMO, and being undefeated is not the main basis to consider if the fighter is the best, it's on how he challenges himself on fighting the best fighters in a division that he thinks he can still handle. Like Pacman, he is not undefeated and yet people think that he is better than Mayweather.

Better than mayweather indeed because he's the only on on able to get those belts from different weight divisions which no one boxer had able to do so which means that this man is a legend and also when it comes to

fighting style then the crowd or fans do normally much prefer on seeing that boxing which do involves in-fight and not just running around or evading just like on what Mayweather is doing. Undefeated record is good

indeed but wont really be able to level out into those who had attained much better achievement other than this which i do highly agree on what you had said.

Being undefeated is not so great if you are just choosing your next opponent.
This is why a lot are not believing on Mayweather's achievement, aside from the fact that his style inside the ring is boring.
But when it comes to Pacquiao, he lost in some of his fights, but he gave a very good performance every time.
He was not afraid who will challenge him. This is why a lot of boxing fans love this guy.
So let's wait and see for this upcoming fight. I am with GGG here and no doubt the poll is 100% in favor of GGG here.

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The main complaint about him is that he has always boxed in the same weight class. Because of this, he missed the chance to fight very strong boxers. GGG has its own style of boxing. His fighting style is very original. He literally crushes his opponent. Power jab looks amazing. GGG moves perfectly around the ring, trying to pin the opponent to the ropes.

I don't think the weight class is the main issues to fight with top boxers, he already fight with Canelo Alvarez (the best middleweight class) but the thing he's lost. It will be different if he win from Alvarez, obviously he will be moved to Light heavyweight class.

Anyway Murata is one of good boxer in this class, if he lose then he shouldn't move to other class.

One of the toughest challenge or gamble for a certain boxer is that they would decide on stepping up on a certain or higher division which could really be that dangerous yet you know that there are fighters which are stronger but it doesnt mean that it cant be handled yet we know there are boxers who had able to attained several weight divisions.

For the best time being then staying up with the current division would be ideal and its true that Murata is really something good on this class so he shouldnt really be that confident.

It's not hard if he is not thinking of not risking his undefeated record. It's a challenge IMO, and being undefeated is not the main basis to consider if the fighter is the best, it's on how he challenges himself on fighting the best fighters in a division that he thinks he can still handle. Like Pacman, he is not undefeated and yet people think that he is better than Mayweather.

Better than mayweather indeed because he's the only on on able to get those belts from different weight divisions which no one boxer had able to do so which means that this man is a legend and also when it comes to

fighting style then the crowd or fans do normally much prefer on seeing that boxing which do involves in-fight and not just running around or evading just like on what Mayweather is doing. Undefeated record is good

indeed but wont really be able to level out into those who had attained much better achievement other than this which i do highly agree on what you had said.

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Quote from: aioc on November 21, 2021, 09:41:15 AM

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GGG   - 19 (100%)
Murata   - 0 (0%)
Draw   - 0 (0%)

The boxing community in this forum still trust Golovkin's power, old but still pack a powerful punch, a boxer is judged on his last fight and we have seen him still good in his last fight, I think the Canelo fight that we all hope for will not happen anymore because Canelo is moving to Cruiserweight, but he still can unite all the belt in his division like what Canelo has done.

Actually, it's not only the trust but GGG is seen as the most popular here compare to Murata. I'm pretty sure that 70%-80% of users in this forum don't know, are not familiar, or heard the name of Murata.

But regardless, GGG is really at the advantage here. Age is not a concern as experience is a must. He should be able to deal with Murata without having a major problem or difficulties.

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