[Boxing]: GGG vs Murata - Reschedule - page 34.

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Quote from: Pamadar on November 21, 2021, 02:50:25 PM

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GGG   - 19 (100%)
Murata   - 0 (0%)
Draw   - 0 (0%)

The boxing community in this forum still trust Golovkin's power, old but still pack a powerful punch, a boxer is judged on his last fight and we have seen him still good in his last fight, I think the Canelo fight that we all hope for will not happen anymore because Canelo is moving to Cruiserweight, but he still can unite all the belt in his division like what Canelo has done.

Yes, Canelo already decides to move up and there's no chance to see them together inside the ring, no more rematch.

I also see that most if not all the readers are in favor of GGG, his fighting strategy still fresh with the fans, he can continue for some more
fights after this, got to move and keep winning while he still has that stamina.

More fights for him means more money before the retirement, that's how practical he needs to be now.

Golovkin is fighting fighters that are not in his caliber, his last fight is against an unknown fighter and Murata is not a top-level fighter since this is a unification match for the WBA, IBF, and IBO title it will be an exciting and interesting match to watch, after this fight, he should go for Andrade or Charlo, these two are the real challengers to his status.

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Quote from: Pamadar on November 21, 2021, 02:50:25 PM

Quote from: aioc on November 21, 2021, 09:41:15 AM

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GGG   - 19 (100%)
Murata   - 0 (0%)
Draw   - 0 (0%)

The boxing community in this forum still trust Golovkin's power, old but still pack a powerful punch, a boxer is judged on his last fight and we have seen him still good in his last fight, I think the Canelo fight that we all hope for will not happen anymore because Canelo is moving to Cruiserweight, but he still can unite all the belt in his division like what Canelo has done.

Yes, Canelo already decides to move up and there's no chance to see them together inside the ring, no more rematch.

I also see that most if not all the readers are in favor of GGG, his fighting strategy still fresh with the fans, he can continue for some more
fights after this, got to move and keep winning while he still has that stamina.

More fights for him means more money before the retirement, that's how practical he needs to be now.

Yes, though this fight isn't that big, but in Japan, it's already a big fight because Murata is very popular in his country. And I think GGG was offered a big amount of money to fight a Japanese fighter. Also, I think it's not his fight yet because although he is on retirement age, as long as he keeps winning, he can at least have 2 or 3 fights with an opponent that could potentially match his boxing skills.

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Quote from: aioc on November 21, 2021, 09:41:15 AM

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GGG   - 19 (100%)
Murata   - 0 (0%)
Draw   - 0 (0%)

The boxing community in this forum still trust Golovkin's power, old but still pack a powerful punch, a boxer is judged on his last fight and we have seen him still good in his last fight, I think the Canelo fight that we all hope for will not happen anymore because Canelo is moving to Cruiserweight, but he still can unite all the belt in his division like what Canelo has done.

Yes, Canelo already decides to move up and there's no chance to see them together inside the ring, no more rematch.

I also see that most if not all the readers are in favor of GGG, his fighting strategy still fresh with the fans, he can continue for some more
fights after this, got to move and keep winning while he still has that stamina.

More fights for him means more money before the retirement, that's how practical he needs to be now.

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GGG   - 19 (100%)
Murata   - 0 (0%)
Draw   - 0 (0%)

The boxing community in this forum still trust Golovkin's power, old but still pack a powerful punch, a boxer is judged on his last fight and we have seen him still good in his last fight, I think the Canelo fight that we all hope for will not happen anymore because Canelo is moving to Cruiserweight, but he still can unite all the belt in his division like what Canelo has done.

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Quote from: yazher on November 20, 2021, 10:36:08 PM

Quote from: ene1980 on November 20, 2021, 05:57:13 PM

I never thought of this angle, when you said he did not fight anyone above his weight class i had to check his career record and the weight class he fought throughout his career and it is true that all of his fights are in the middleweight division. Now he is 39 years and i doubt he will be moving up in weight, but when he did that in his prime he could have won most of the matches.

Even though he is at the peak of his career, he is still one of the best boxers who step up in the ring and this upcoming fight will be no different from the other fight where he beat every opponent with a knockout except for a few. more likely this fight would end in the early rounds like the last Japanese fighter he fought which was quickly ended in the eight-round due to multiple one-sided punches by GGG.

Well, it hopes that he is in good shape during the fight as with his age, to fight a higher division from its normal catch weight is a difficult unless if he did this for many times. We know that GGG is one of the heavy punchers in boxing plus his experience fighting big names at his division gives the advantage but I'm in doubt about this new plan. Maybe we wanted to push himself to the limit before going to retire like MP.

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Quote from: Smartprofit on November 18, 2021, 01:58:42 AM

The main complaint about him is that he has always boxed in the same weight class. Because of this, he missed the chance to fight very strong boxers. GGG has its own style of boxing. His fighting style is very original. He literally crushes his opponent. Power jab looks amazing. GGG moves perfectly around the ring, trying to pin the opponent to the ropes.

I don't think the weight class is the main issues to fight with top boxers, he already fight with Canelo Alvarez (the best middleweight class) but the thing he's lost. It will be different if he win from Alvarez, obviously he will be moved to Light heavyweight class.

Anyway Murata is one of good boxer in this class, if he lose then he shouldn't move to other class.

One of the toughest challenge or gamble for a certain boxer is that they would decide on stepping up on a certain or higher division which could really be that dangerous yet you know that there are fighters which are stronger but it doesnt mean that it cant be handled yet we know there are boxers who had able to attained several weight divisions.

For the best time being then staying up with the current division would be ideal and its true that Murata is really something good on this class so he shouldnt really be that confident.

It's not hard if he is not thinking of not risking his undefeated record. It's a challenge IMO, and being undefeated is not the main basis to consider if the fighter is the best, it's on how he challenges himself on fighting the best fighters in a division that he thinks he can still handle. Like Pacman, he is not undefeated and yet people think that he is better than Mayweather.

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Quote from: Jawhead999 on November 20, 2021, 09:42:31 PM

Quote from: Smartprofit on November 18, 2021, 01:58:42 AM

The main complaint about him is that he has always boxed in the same weight class. Because of this, he missed the chance to fight very strong boxers. GGG has its own style of boxing. His fighting style is very original. He literally crushes his opponent. Power jab looks amazing. GGG moves perfectly around the ring, trying to pin the opponent to the ropes.

I don't think the weight class is the main issues to fight with top boxers, he already fight with Canelo Alvarez (the best middleweight class) but the thing he's lost. It will be different if he win from Alvarez, obviously he will be moved to Light heavyweight class.

Anyway Murata is one of good boxer in this class, if he lose then he shouldn't move to other class.

One of the toughest challenge or gamble for a certain boxer is that they would decide on stepping up on a certain or higher division which could really be that dangerous yet you know that there are fighters which are stronger but it doesnt mean that it cant be handled yet we know there are boxers who had able to attained several weight divisions.

For the best time being then staying up with the current division would be ideal and its true that Murata is really something good on this class so he shouldnt really be that confident.

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Quote from: ene1980 on November 20, 2021, 05:57:13 PM

I never thought of this angle, when you said he did not fight anyone above his weight class i had to check his career record and the weight class he fought throughout his career and it is true that all of his fights are in the middleweight division. Now he is 39 years and i doubt he will be moving up in weight, but when he did that in his prime he could have won most of the matches.

Even though he is at the peak of his career, he is still one of the best boxers who step up in the ring and this upcoming fight will be no different from the other fight where he beat every opponent with a knockout except for a few. more likely this fight would end in the early rounds like the last Japanese fighter he fought which was quickly ended in the eight-round due to multiple one-sided punches by GGG.

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Quote from: Smartprofit on November 18, 2021, 01:58:42 AM

The main complaint about him is that he has always boxed in the same weight class. Because of this, he missed the chance to fight very strong boxers. GGG has its own style of boxing. His fighting style is very original. He literally crushes his opponent. Power jab looks amazing. GGG moves perfectly around the ring, trying to pin the opponent to the ropes.

I don't think the weight class is the main issues to fight with top boxers, he already fight with Canelo Alvarez (the best middleweight class) but the thing he's lost. It will be different if he win from Alvarez, obviously he will be moved to Light heavyweight class.

Anyway Murata is one of good boxer in this class, if he lose then he shouldn't move to other class.

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Quote from: Smartprofit on November 18, 2021, 01:58:42 AM

GGG is a great athlete ...

The main complaint about him is that he has always boxed in the same weight class. Because of this, he missed the chance to fight very strong boxers. GGG has its own style of boxing. His fighting style is very original. He literally crushes his opponent. Power jab looks amazing. GGG moves perfectly around the ring, trying to pin the opponent to the ropes.

I never thought of this angle, when you said he did not fight anyone above his weight class i had to check his career record and the weight class he fought throughout his career and it is true that all of his fights are in the middleweight division. Now he is 39 years and i doubt he will be moving up in weight, but when he did that in his prime he could have won most of the matches.

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Quote from: chaser15 on November 20, 2021, 09:32:09 AM

Quote from: Smartprofit on November 18, 2021, 01:58:42 AM

In my opinion, GGG has a better chance of winning.

In my opinion, both have the same chance of winning. GGG is deadly by its name but he has already passed his prime.

I think the one that will trigger the 100% GGG is if he will have a chance for a trilogy with Canelo.

That's what he wanted before retiring and not this match. But since Canelo doesn't have an interest, GGG should prove that he's still a worthy opponent for Canelo by defeating the Japanese Champion Murata.

He might be past on his prime but doesnt mean that he's not capable on giving a good damn fight! He might really be interested for that trilogy but it cant be possible so does he have any choice?

If he plans on retiring then he would be making it to be that looks good and wont be ending up on having a loss which wont really be that appealing.Therefore, i dont really
see any degradation of performance on intentional scale.

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^ It is Possible that they have a fight between GGG vs Canelo III and it could be pointed out by the WBO seems like what happened to the previous boxers.
But that is definitely right, I am in favor of GGG here and it seems Canelo was on underdog status because GGG has a number of supporters and promoters. It is a week more to go than we can able to see the fight and we will prepare for that live event because it is hard to go there and watch personally, we don't know the risk because still, we are under in pandemic.

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Quote from: chaser15 on November 20, 2021, 09:32:09 AM

Quote from: Smartprofit on November 18, 2021, 01:58:42 AM

In my opinion, GGG has a better chance of winning.

In my opinion, both have the same chance of winning. GGG is deadly by its name but he has already passed his prime.

Not sure about that, but let's just see how the bookies would rate this fight. I believe that GGG will still be the heavy favorite here, even if he is old.

Quote from: chaser15 on November 20, 2021, 09:32:09 AM

I think the one that will trigger the 100% GGG is if he will have a chance for a trilogy with Canelo.

That's what he wanted before retiring and not this match. But since Canelo doesn't have an interest, GGG should prove that he's still a worthy opponent for Canelo by defeating the Japanese Champion Murata.

The Japanese champion had most of his fights in Japan, which means he has not faced the best fighters in the world yet, this is probably his first time and though GGG is already 39 years old, this man is built with steel too, he can destroy his opponent with his power punches like Canelo.

As for me, I'm also hoping for GGG vs Canelo III, but I have to be realistic that it's unlikely to happen.

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Quote from: Smartprofit on November 18, 2021, 01:58:42 AM

In my opinion, GGG has a better chance of winning.

In my opinion, both have the same chance of winning. GGG is deadly by its name but he has already passed his prime.

I think the one that will trigger the 100% GGG is if he will have a chance for a trilogy with Canelo.

That's what he wanted before retiring and not this match. But since Canelo doesn't have an interest, GGG should prove that he's still a worthy opponent for Canelo by defeating the Japanese Champion Murata.

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Quote from: Smartprofit on November 18, 2021, 01:58:42 AM

GGG is a great athlete ...

The main complaint about him is that he has always boxed in the same weight class. Because of this, he missed the chance to fight very strong boxers. GGG has its own style of boxing. His fighting style is very original. He literally crushes his opponent. Power jab looks amazing. GGG moves perfectly around the ring, trying to pin the opponent to the ropes.

Murata is a very worthy opponent. He is the favorite of all Japan. And it is deserved. He has a lot of experience in amateur fighting. And in these fights, he showed willpower worthy of a samurai. He is also very strong physically. However, it lacks the agility and lightness of the GGG. The fight promises to be very interesting.

In my opinion, GGG has a better chance of winning.

Just hope GGG does not suddenly show his age and fall to pieces under Murata's pressure style. GGG is still good, make no mistake about that, but he is not the fighter he once was. I. E. when he fought Canelo a couple of years back. The winner of this fight should take on Canelo who has been boxing against light hitting fighters as of late. Both GGG and Murata have the power to trouble Canelo. Even at 39, GGG can still punch hard although his work rate and footwork is not what it once was.

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Quote from: robelneo on November 13, 2021, 06:39:19 AM

I have this feeling that the poll will end with Murata getting a zero vote Golovkin is still good and he still has that killer instinct and even if he has not fought for quite some time, a fighter is as good as his last fight the long layoff will not be an indication that he losses his power and quickness, I have not seen any boxer that can keep up with him except of course Canelo, this fight is a good build-up if promoters and the boxing community still wants to see the third match against Canelo and Golovkin.

GGG   - 8 (100%)
Murata   - 0 (0%)
Draw   - 0 (0%)
Total Voters: 8

It is entirely possible, now the poll is 17-0 in favor of GGG and I doubt much will change, after all I am a boxing fan and I think I have seen Murata fighting once, while GGG is an international boxing star that I have seen multiple times above the ring.

So it is natural that people are voting for GGG to win the fight as they know about his boxing abilities above the ring while Murata is mostly a mystery to most of them.

Yeah, for casual fans, Murata is relatively unknown, mostly fans in Japan but he is the champion as well.

And majority of us have followed GGG, or at least seen him fights in the States many times specially the Alvarez fight wherein it was really close.

So majority will vote for GGG here, as he has all the tools to get Murata's belt and unify the MW again.

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Quote from: robelneo on November 13, 2021, 06:39:19 AM

I have this feeling that the poll will end with Murata getting a zero vote Golovkin is still good and he still has that killer instinct and even if he has not fought for quite some time, a fighter is as good as his last fight the long layoff will not be an indication that he losses his power and quickness, I have not seen any boxer that can keep up with him except of course Canelo, this fight is a good build-up if promoters and the boxing community still wants to see the third match against Canelo and Golovkin.

GGG   - 8 (100%)
Murata   - 0 (0%)
Draw   - 0 (0%)
Total Voters: 8

It is entirely possible, now the poll is 17-0 in favor of GGG and I doubt much will change, after all I am a boxing fan and I think I have seen Murata fighting once, while GGG is an international boxing star that I have seen multiple times above the ring.

So it is natural that people are voting for GGG to win the fight as they know about his boxing abilities above the ring while Murata is mostly a mystery to most of them.

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Quote from: Oasisman on November 18, 2021, 01:30:30 PM

Quote from: Obito on November 18, 2021, 11:11:24 AM

There's probably enough time, I mean look at Pacquiao he's still fighting although a looming consideration of retirement. I think it's still not that bad that GGG is still fighting, I mean look at this perspective, see those years as experience accumulated which is an advantage rather than a disadvantage.

39 is considered early retirement, depends on the number of fights as well. As long as father time isn't very obvious on his most recent fight, the I guess he still can fight 5-6 more matches.
Most boxers retired with over 40+ professional fights, GGG could still fight till 50 career matches imo. elite fighters doesn't seem easy to beat even with father time occurred.

When age starts to cling up then we would already assumed out that retirement is approaching and as a fan we already presume that it is really heading on there plus the upcoming fights wont really be that sparkly compared when its still on its prime but somehow it doesnt mean that we wont really be
seeing some good fights on here.Lets just anticipate for things to be look like this but as a fan thenyou are still expecting something on what you do
know about a certain boxer.When it comes to winning then GGG will take this no doubt.

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Quote from: Obito on November 18, 2021, 11:11:24 AM

There's probably enough time, I mean look at Pacquiao he's still fighting although a looming consideration of retirement. I think it's still not that bad that GGG is still fighting, I mean look at this perspective, see those years as experience accumulated which is an advantage rather than a disadvantage.

39 is considered early retirement, depends on the number of fights as well. As long as father time isn't very obvious on his most recent fight, the I guess he still can fight 5-6 more matches.
Most boxers retired with over 40+ professional fights, GGG could still fight till 50 career matches imo. elite fighters doesn't seem easy to beat even with father time occurred.

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Quote from: cryptomaniac_xxx on November 18, 2021, 02:15:53 AM

^^ Well he can't go up in weight, this his is fighting weight so I don't think there's much to criticized about GGG's career. He fought all the best in this division and at one time has the longest defense for a Middleweight boxer. As everyone said, Murata is good, he is Japanese and fighting in his home turf so there's a line of pride in the line. But GGG is different boxer, so he will be the odds favorite in this fight.

GGG is a very well-known fighter, even they will fight at Murata's place, bookies will still favor him.

It's interesting to see if how the pride will take this fight to the best level, it's for sure that Murata will try harder to beat GGG
while it's also the case with GGG, he will do everything for this fight.

Quote from: Obito on November 18, 2021, 11:11:24 AM

There's probably enough time, I mean look at Pacquiao he's still fighting although a looming consideration of retirement. I think it's still not that bad that GGG is still fighting, I mean look at this perspective, see those years as experience accumulated which is an advantage rather than a disadvantage.

He still fits to fight, and with his attitude, he still gets the interest of his fans. After this fight, if he wins it, maybe there is/are more fight to follow.

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