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I've heard that Casimero is looking for some additional trainers on his team. But he wants a younger one.

Well in fact that the old timers are better trainers because they have a lot to share because of their experiences.

He can add young trainers but his head trainer should be the one that who is with him all the time, the old trainer knows about him already, his strength and weaknesses and based on what Casimero has achieved now, I can say that they are both successful together, they have a good tandem in short.
I agree.

But it seems that he's looking for a new one, I don't know if there's a replacement or what but that's just I know about it with his search of the trainer.

If he chooses one, I also think that an older one is better.

Maybe Casimero was disappointed with what happened in his last fight, there was no adjustment, Casimero almost loses the fight because Rigo was so quick and Casimero can't hit him with a clean punch. They should prepare for that kind of style because although Inoue is not known for running, but he can always use his quickness to score and beat Casimero in 12 rounds.
I think it's not about that.

But it's just about a big preparation and he knows who's fighting with and he has to be really prepared before that fight happens.

I guess even if his with dirty talks, he is also preparing and understands that his opponent is strong.
A win is a win even if he feels disappointed, its just a pride though and yes, Casimero has to be more prepared this time so he can have a good chance to beat Inoue if ever their fight will push through later this year. That dirty talk is just part of their advertisement and its really effective on the side of Casimero, now Inoue wants to fight with him.

he got inoue's attention already. now, it is for their respective promoters to talk about the purse split. their promoters will be responsible if this fight will happen or not. boxing fans want to see this fight because of the exchange of tirades in both camps. this will be interesting because whatever the result will be, will have an impact on both boxer's career.
can casimero continue to trash talk if in case, he will be defeated by inoue? or what will happen to inoue's career if there will be an upset here?
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A win is a win even if he feels disappointed, its just a pride though and yes, Casimero has to be more prepared this time so he can have a good chance to beat Inoue if ever their fight will push through later this year.
A win is a win whatever things happened during his last fight, that's already concluded he needs now more good preparation as he will probably fighting for his future career, not only with the monster Inoue but with all the fans who are now keeping an eye with after those trash talks that he made.

If he becomes careless and is beaten by a KO, it will reflect hard with his career, better to build a strong foundation to strategize every move that he'll going to take while facing Inoue inside the ring.

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That dirty talk is just part of their advertisement and its really effective on the side of Casimero, now Inoue wants to fight with him.

He clearly snatched the attention and now he bring the talk to his camp. It's only the signing of the contract and the date we are
waiting but from a better view this fight might be happened before this year will end.
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I've heard that Casimero is looking for some additional trainers on his team. But he wants a younger one.

Well in fact that the old timers are better trainers because they have a lot to share because of their experiences.

He can add young trainers but his head trainer should be the one that who is with him all the time, the old trainer knows about him already, his strength and weaknesses and based on what Casimero has achieved now, I can say that they are both successful together, they have a good tandem in short.
I agree.

But it seems that he's looking for a new one, I don't know if there's a replacement or what but that's just I know about it with his search of the trainer.

If he chooses one, I also think that an older one is better.

Maybe Casimero was disappointed with what happened in his last fight, there was no adjustment, Casimero almost loses the fight because Rigo was so quick and Casimero can't hit him with a clean punch. They should prepare for that kind of style because although Inoue is not known for running, but he can always use his quickness to score and beat Casimero in 12 rounds.
I think it's not about that.

But it's just about a big preparation and he knows who's fighting with and he has to be really prepared before that fight happens.

I guess even if his with dirty talks, he is also preparing and understands that his opponent is strong.
A win is a win even if he feels disappointed, its just a pride though and yes, Casimero has to be more prepared this time so he can have a good chance to beat Inoue if ever their fight will push through later this year. That dirty talk is just part of their advertisement and its really effective on the side of Casimero, now Inoue wants to fight with him.
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I've heard that Casimero is looking for some additional trainers on his team. But he wants a younger one.

Well in fact that the old timers are better trainers because they have a lot to share because of their experiences.

He can add young trainers but his head trainer should be the one that who is with him all the time, the old trainer knows about him already, his strength and weaknesses and based on what Casimero has achieved now, I can say that they are both successful together, they have a good tandem in short.
I agree.

But it seems that he's looking for a new one, I don't know if there's a replacement or what but that's just I know about it with his search of the trainer.

If he chooses one, I also think that an older one is better.

Maybe Casimero was disappointed with what happened in his last fight, there was no adjustment, Casimero almost loses the fight because Rigo was so quick and Casimero can't hit him with a clean punch. They should prepare for that kind of style because although Inoue is not known for running, but he can always use his quickness to score and beat Casimero in 12 rounds.
I think it's not about that.

But it's just about a big preparation and he knows who's fighting with and he has to be really prepared before that fight happens.

I guess even if his with dirty talks, he is also preparing and understands that his opponent is strong.
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However, is there anyone who knows when is the final fight of Inoue and Manny Pacquiao? I think Manny will resign soon and he will perhaps continue his carrer.

Are there any reports about this?
Because the last time I checked they are in different weight class division. Inoue needs to increase his weight for up to 20 kilos, and that's too much for him. He'll probably lost a bit of speed, acuracy, and agility If he forces himself to climb at Pacquiao's weight class.
Pacquiao on the other hand won't risk reducing his weight. I mean he's old and lossing a weight might weakens his body conditioning.
So, I guess this fight won't happen.
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I can't even believe that Rigo thinks he won the fight. He was just running and throw some punches that has no intention to hurt Casimero, so two judgest favored Casimero to win as he is the champion and he is willing to give the fans a good fight while Rigo acting like Mayweather who is good at running.
This is the basic way of fighting here on sports of boxing which you do need to hit but wont tend to be get hit and this is where he do really fixed up his own style of boxing which is totally the same
on what Mayweather is been doing.Some do just accept that its a style but we arent really here for that but rather we do love to see those belt-to-belt type of boxing which there's no involved
some running and very defensive kind of act into those boxers.Wont be surprised if interest on Rigo wont really be that much lasting long.
In boxing, your main goal is to win and that's what boxers are doing, however, since boxing is entertainment, as a boxer, you also need to ask yourself this question, "Am I entertaining", if the answer is no, then probably you need to change your style so you will get big fights and earn more money.

Professional boxer is entirely different from real competition like Olympics, here, you fight and entertain the crowd, you have a good recipe to earn a lot of money, which is the reason why fighters are here.


Eventually, boxing sports will turn out to be all about the money, not only promoters are looking for fights that will generate a lot of money, now, the boxers are also ensuring that they will get big fights although some of them may not be too competitive anymore, wherever the money is, they follow, that seems to be the principle of the boxers now.
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and also I am aiming for Casimero to win here as to take revenge from the lose of His fellow Filipino Donaire .
Im also rooting for Casimero to win here because he is a Filipino. The past fight of Inoue and Donaire is a friendly match and I think there's no hate feelings between each other. If there's someone to avenge Donaire from his lost to Inoue, its only Donaire himself. Thus if ever they were given a chance to be on the ring again that would be an exciting fight.
No, it was a real competition, though Inoue and Donaire are friends outside the ring, that doesn't mean they will not give their best and be the beast in the fight. Inoue had some trouble in the early rounds, but he was smart, he was able to take advantage using his quickness and those solid jabs of him is very effective.

What that user means is, the fight between Donaire and Inoue is a friendly match because of no hatred after the fight. No trash talks, no questions, no flaws, everything is fair and match. Both boxers show respect after the fight and congratulate each other. Inoue even recognizes Donaire's strength even at that age. He is also open to a rematch with Donaire to make sure no questions. A 2-0 is what he needed.

But for that to happen first, Inoue should shut down the aggressive and cocky Casimero first.

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I fully understand that some great boxers even do an exhibition fight just to make easy money, so it already tells the reality now.
Well, I think you are wrong because as I remember before --there is an exhibition fight before that the revenue on it was going to the charity. So I think some of this exhibition fight matters a lot of the entertainment not just because of the money. Sometimes I can consider that this kind of game is scripted and you will know from the last. However, is there anyone who knows when is the final fight of Inoue and Manny Pacquiao? I think Manny will resign soon and he will perhaps continue his carrer.

It was Mike Tyson vs  Roy Jones Jr. last year. All proceeds went to the chosen charity and foundation. The reason also why Jones Jr. accepts the fight. If it's not about for charity, Mike Tyson will end up fighting another boxer.

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I fully understand that some great boxers even do an exhibition fight just to make easy money, so it already tells the reality now.
Well, I think you are wrong because as I remember before --there is an exhibition fight before that the revenue on it was going to the charity. So I think some of this exhibition fight matters a lot of the entertainment not just because of the money. Sometimes I can consider that this kind of game is scripted and you will know from the last. However, is there anyone who knows when is the final fight of Inoue and Manny Pacquiao? I think Manny will resign soon and he will perhaps continue his carrer.
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No matter how conversation runs here yet it is Inoue that will win high chances here. sorry for Casimero's fans and supporter but i don't think he ahs a catch against Inoue .
The record says it all not unless Casimero will do a special moves here, but of course both are great boxers and they both have a good chance to win its just that, Inoue has a clean record and he really have to protect it. Hopefully the fight will push through this December, to end the trash talking between this two and Donaire, the three boxers that are so eager to fight each other.
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I can't even believe that Rigo thinks he won the fight. He was just running and throw some punches that has no intention to hurt Casimero, so two judgest favored Casimero to win as he is the champion and he is willing to give the fans a good fight while Rigo acting like Mayweather who is good at running.
This is the basic way of fighting here on sports of boxing which you do need to hit but wont tend to be get hit and this is where he do really fixed up his own style of boxing which is totally the same
on what Mayweather is been doing.Some do just accept that its a style but we arent really here for that but rather we do love to see those belt-to-belt type of boxing which there's no involved
some running and very defensive kind of act into those boxers.Wont be surprised if interest on Rigo wont really be that much lasting long.
In boxing, your main goal is to win and that's what boxers are doing, however, since boxing is entertainment, as a boxer, you also need to ask yourself this question, "Am I entertaining", if the answer is no, then probably you need to change your style so you will get big fights and earn more money.

Professional boxer is entirely different from real competition like Olympics, here, you fight and entertain the crowd, you have a good recipe to earn a lot of money, which is the reason why fighters are here.


I fully understand that some great boxers even do an exhibition fight just to make easy money, so it already tells the reality now. Floyd Mayweather for example can make a lot of money if he will give Pacquiao a rematch, but choose to fight Logan Paul so he would not risk his undefeated record while at the same time could still milk money from the fans who support an exhibition fight.

Sooner or later, the boxing that we used to love will become an exhibition match as we are supporting exhibition matches.
Fans or people is already aware from that and thats why we have seen that the demand isnt really that much high compared into those official fights.Boxing sports had become a business and theres no surprise to that

there would be similar fights that would really be happening in near future since most of those boxers do know on how to milk out the crowd or the fans.

Speaking with this upcoming Casimero and Inoue then this is something on where i do believe that the crowd or boxing fans is been waiting for.
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I can't even believe that Rigo thinks he won the fight. He was just running and throw some punches that has no intention to hurt Casimero, so two judgest favored Casimero to win as he is the champion and he is willing to give the fans a good fight while Rigo acting like Mayweather who is good at running.
This is the basic way of fighting here on sports of boxing which you do need to hit but wont tend to be get hit and this is where he do really fixed up his own style of boxing which is totally the same
on what Mayweather is been doing.Some do just accept that its a style but we arent really here for that but rather we do love to see those belt-to-belt type of boxing which there's no involved
some running and very defensive kind of act into those boxers.Wont be surprised if interest on Rigo wont really be that much lasting long.
In boxing, your main goal is to win and that's what boxers are doing, however, since boxing is entertainment, as a boxer, you also need to ask yourself this question, "Am I entertaining", if the answer is no, then probably you need to change your style so you will get big fights and earn more money.

Professional boxer is entirely different from real competition like Olympics, here, you fight and entertain the crowd, you have a good recipe to earn a lot of money, which is the reason why fighters are here.


I fully understand that some great boxers even do an exhibition fight just to make easy money, so it already tells the reality now. Floyd Mayweather for example can make a lot of money if he will give Pacquiao a rematch, but choose to fight Logan Paul so he would not risk his undefeated record while at the same time could still milk money from the fans who support an exhibition fight.

Sooner or later, the boxing that we used to love will become an exhibition match as we are supporting exhibition matches.
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I've heard that Casimero is looking for some additional trainers on his team. But he wants a younger one.

Well in fact that the old timers are better trainers because they have a lot to share because of their experiences.

He can add young trainers but his head trainer should be the one that who is with him all the time, the old trainer knows about him already, his strength and weaknesses and based on what Casimero has achieved now, I can say that they are both successful together, they have a good tandem in short.
I agree.

But it seems that he's looking for a new one, I don't know if there's a replacement or what but that's just I know about it with his search of the trainer.

If he chooses one, I also think that an older one is better.

Maybe Casimero was disappointed with what happened in his last fight, there was no adjustment, Casimero almost loses the fight because Rigo was so quick and Casimero can't hit him with a clean punch. They should prepare for that kind of style because although Inoue is not known for running, but he can always use his quickness to score and beat Casimero in 12 rounds.

We can't blame the coaches or trainers for the last fight since actually casimero is already dissapointed and disperate at that point that's why he's game style has been broken, for sure they have tactics to win but rigondeaux is a movy fighter that's why instead of giving his opponent a brutal punches it ends up a chasing game.
I can't even believe that Rigo thinks he won the fight. He was just running and throw some punches that has no intention to hurt Casimero, so two judgest favored Casimero to win as he is the champion and he is willing to give the fans a good fight while Rigo acting like Mayweather who is good at running.

When the final bell rings that will end the match, both boxers always raised their hands thinking they won the fight even how badly injured they are. That's already usual common to see. Rigo might be thinking he gained more points by the pure defense and dodging the fight but it's not. Besides, he won on 1 judge making it a split decision, not a unanimous victory for Casimero.

Comparing to Mayweather, this boxer always makes sure that while he is running, he can connect with counter punches to gain points. That's how he won with Manny Pacquiao. Rigo also has the same style but not enough. Casimero should not be frustrated if he found Rigo running. It's been in history already that Rigo is more on defense and does not want to have a close counter fight.
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I can't even believe that Rigo thinks he won the fight. He was just running and throw some punches that has no intention to hurt Casimero, so two judgest favored Casimero to win as he is the champion and he is willing to give the fans a good fight while Rigo acting like Mayweather who is good at running.
This is the basic way of fighting here on sports of boxing which you do need to hit but wont tend to be get hit and this is where he do really fixed up his own style of boxing which is totally the same
on what Mayweather is been doing.Some do just accept that its a style but we arent really here for that but rather we do love to see those belt-to-belt type of boxing which there's no involved
some running and very defensive kind of act into those boxers.Wont be surprised if interest on Rigo wont really be that much lasting long.
In boxing, your main goal is to win and that's what boxers are doing, however, since boxing is entertainment, as a boxer, you also need to ask yourself this question, "Am I entertaining", if the answer is no, then probably you need to change your style so you will get big fights and earn more money.

Professional boxer is entirely different from real competition like Olympics, here, you fight and entertain the crowd, you have a good recipe to earn a lot of money, which is the reason why fighters are here.
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I can't even believe that Rigo thinks he won the fight. He was just running and throw some punches that has no intention to hurt Casimero, so two judgest favored Casimero to win as he is the champion and he is willing to give the fans a good fight while Rigo acting like Mayweather who is good at running.
This is the basic way of fighting here on sports of boxing which you do need to hit but wont tend to be get hit and this is where he do really fixed up his own style of boxing which is totally the same
on what Mayweather is been doing.Some do just accept that its a style but we arent really here for that but rather we do love to see those belt-to-belt type of boxing which there's no involved
some running and very defensive kind of act into those boxers.Wont be surprised if interest on Rigo wont really be that much lasting long.
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Casimero is just surprised as he is quite different from Filipino fighters, he is the only fighter I know that loves to trash talk his opponents, other fighters are so humble, they don't talk much as they respect their opponent. While Casimero though some hates him, but I understand he is just doing his job, this guy talks inside and outside the ring, if you know what I'm saying and that's good.
I have began to wonder if this is just more than a strategy to hype the fight, after all Inoue is Japanese and we know that in the Japanese culture there is a great emphasis on showing the proper respect to your opponents and care about your own honor, I wonder if this is a strategy by Casimero to try to force Inoue to go for him on the first rounds of the match by making him mad with his statements on the media and try to win the fight this way?

They really need to hype the fight. It was reported that the 2 last fight of Casimero didn't reach the target and expected revenues. With Inoue, they will sure got a good revenue as the Japanese name is already big. But Casimero needs to do his part too and making trash talk might be his way.

But Casimero is already like that. He might be a good person outside the ring but it doesn't mean he didn't mean his trash talk. That's his behaviour even before, trash talking anyone with no limits.
Thanks for the clarification, most of the time I do not see any of the hype surrounding a fight because in my case it will be a waste of time, after all if two of the best at the division are going at it with the tittle in dispute then I do not need anything else to be hyped about it and want to see the fight and enjoy myself, with that being said I still think there may be a little bit of a strategy there coming from Casimero to make Inoue uncomfortable.
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I've heard that Casimero is looking for some additional trainers on his team. But he wants a younger one.

Well in fact that the old timers are better trainers because they have a lot to share because of their experiences.

He can add young trainers but his head trainer should be the one that who is with him all the time, the old trainer knows about him already, his strength and weaknesses and based on what Casimero has achieved now, I can say that they are both successful together, they have a good tandem in short.
I agree.

But it seems that he's looking for a new one, I don't know if there's a replacement or what but that's just I know about it with his search of the trainer.

If he chooses one, I also think that an older one is better.

Maybe Casimero was disappointed with what happened in his last fight, there was no adjustment, Casimero almost loses the fight because Rigo was so quick and Casimero can't hit him with a clean punch. They should prepare for that kind of style because although Inoue is not known for running, but he can always use his quickness to score and beat Casimero in 12 rounds.

We can't blame the coaches or trainers for the last fight since actually casimero is already dissapointed and disperate at that point that's why he's game style has been broken, for sure they have tactics to win but rigondeaux is a movy fighter that's why instead of giving his opponent a brutal punches it ends up a chasing game.
I can't even believe that Rigo thinks he won the fight. He was just running and throw some punches that has no intention to hurt Casimero, so two judgest favored Casimero to win as he is the champion and he is willing to give the fans a good fight while Rigo acting like Mayweather who is good at running.
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I've heard that Casimero is looking for some additional trainers on his team. But he wants a younger one.

Well in fact that the old timers are better trainers because they have a lot to share because of their experiences.

He can add young trainers but his head trainer should be the one that who is with him all the time, the old trainer knows about him already, his strength and weaknesses and based on what Casimero has achieved now, I can say that they are both successful together, they have a good tandem in short.
I agree.

But it seems that he's looking for a new one, I don't know if there's a replacement or what but that's just I know about it with his search of the trainer.

If he chooses one, I also think that an older one is better.

Maybe Casimero was disappointed with what happened in his last fight, there was no adjustment, Casimero almost loses the fight because Rigo was so quick and Casimero can't hit him with a clean punch. They should prepare for that kind of style because although Inoue is not known for running, but he can always use his quickness to score and beat Casimero in 12 rounds.

We can't blame the coaches or trainers for the last fight since actually casimero is already dissapointed and disperate at that point that's why he's game style has been broken, for sure they have tactics to win but rigondeaux is a movy fighter that's why instead of giving his opponent a brutal punches it ends up a chasing game.
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I've heard that Casimero is looking for some additional trainers on his team. But he wants a younger one.

Well in fact that the old timers are better trainers because they have a lot to share because of their experiences.

He can add young trainers but his head trainer should be the one that who is with him all the time, the old trainer knows about him already, his strength and weaknesses and based on what Casimero has achieved now, I can say that they are both successful together, they have a good tandem in short.
I agree.

But it seems that he's looking for a new one, I don't know if there's a replacement or what but that's just I know about it with his search of the trainer.

If he chooses one, I also think that an older one is better.

Maybe Casimero was disappointed with what happened in his last fight, there was no adjustment, Casimero almost loses the fight because Rigo was so quick and Casimero can't hit him with a clean punch. They should prepare for that kind of style because although Inoue is not known for running, but he can always use his quickness to score and beat Casimero in 12 rounds.
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I've heard that Casimero is looking for some additional trainers on his team. But he wants a younger one.

Well in fact that the old timers are better trainers because they have a lot to share because of their experiences.

He can add young trainers but his head trainer should be the one that who is with him all the time, the old trainer knows about him already, his strength and weaknesses and based on what Casimero has achieved now, I can say that they are both successful together, they have a good tandem in short.
I agree.

But it seems that he's looking for a new one, I don't know if there's a replacement or what but that's just I know about it with his search of the trainer.

If he chooses one, I also think that an older one is better.
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I've heard that Casimero is looking for some additional trainers on his team. But he wants a younger one.

Well in fact that the old timers are better trainers because they have a lot to share because of their experiences.

I don't hear that rumor yet but I heard the issue about getting Freddie Roach, just in case. Casimero doesn't like the idea because Roach is a foreigner and hard to speak English. Harsh lol. That comment made some netizens angered as he don't show any respect to Freddie Roach.

Nonito Donaire also expresses his frustration about Casimero's statement.

Now the question, it's still part of marketing to hype his name for the upcoming fight with Inoue?

Is that Casimero's reason for not getting along Freddie Roach? Lol, that's a lame excuse. So how can he get a good trainer when all of them are Americans?

Anyway, as far as what I read, his lead trainer, went home because there's no definite date yet for a Inoue clash. So if ever this fight will be finalized, for your Neri will go back to the US and train Casimero. Meanwhile, John Riel can still work out at Freddie Roach gym in the US.
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