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Topic: [Boxing] Inoue vs Casimero Bantamweight Unification Fight - page 9. (Read 6918 times)

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I think they should give him a chance to give him what he wants and they shouldn't give any reason to refuse his challenge. They should not give any reasons to delay or to postpone this fight because the fans right now are requesting this fight to happen as soon as possible. Inoue is not that kind of guy to back out to any challenge out there since he beat his opponents with his powerful blow to the body and it is effective since the day he stepped in the ring. Casimero on the other hand wanted to fight someone who wants to clash in the right without running like the Cuban fighter did and the perfect boxer for that is Inoue. I wonder why they need to go through some long negotiations just for these two good boxers to finish their business inside the ring.
Most of the time this is about the money, even if fighters want to fight each other above the ring the promoters are going to try to extract every single dollar they can out of the fight, something that is not wrong as it is their duty to try to see the interests of their fighters are  being taken care of, but this creates delays in the fights we want to see to the point that some fights do not happen at all or take place many years later once the fighters are out of their prime.
That's the game, even how good the fighter is but he was not signed with a popular promoter, his career will not be as good as he wants to. For example, if Inoue was not signed by Top Rank and no big promotion signed him, he will just continue to fight in Japan where he may still be popular but will not big money in boxing like other boxing superstars have made or making in their career as a boxer.
Eventually fighters learn this lesson and decide to accept to be part of the fighters signed by a big promoter, however as we know this causes other problems, now this fighter can fight all the fighters under this promoter freely but now it is still difficult to get access to the fighters of other promoters especially if y are good and he is seen as a threat to them, all in all I hope that this fight at some point happens as it would be a shame if that was not the case.
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Then now we are completely assured of Inoue vs Casimero fight and Donaire is taking side place?

the only thing we need to hear is the finalization of when and where the fight will be held.


I will take Inoue against casimero because the man is full of trashtalk while Ionue remains silent but dangerous.

After several times the postponement of the fight due to the pandemic, now there is a lot of news circulating that the fight between Inoue vs Casimero will be held on 11 or 18 December 2021 but of course that date can still change again depending on the conditions that will exist later, from the source I read if the fight between Inoue vs Casimero will be held for 12 rounds and takes place at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas, USA.

https://champinon.info/schedule/inoue-vs-casimero/
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Seeing the current hype and situation recently, looks like this fight is more possible to happen rather than any other fights to other boxers. We just need to wait for some official announcement. Casimero will not say anything about confirmed fight if there's no inside information he got.

The fight should happened before but because of the pandemic, it was cancelled. It's time now to settle the things and continue the cancelled fight regardless of where it should be held.
Given how pissed off Inoue is regarding Casimero's recent trashtalking, I think that it's more than sure that this fight is going to happen, plus Casimero is also accepting the challenge so there's no way out for them now.
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Most likely it will happen, he was taunting Inoue and now the he got his attention, it seems that they are now working on contract.
yes, i saw last august Casimero talked about it, after he fought Guillermo, Casimero very loudly said that was not good for Inoue, I'm really silly to see their actions actually what happened with Inoue, is he not angry to hear Casimero's words belittled by Inoue.

However, I don't see their actions anymore, it's boring to me like children are afraid of something, how about the contract that Casimero offered to Inoue or is there an agreement between the two of them...!
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Seeing the current hype and situation recently, looks like this fight is more possible to happen rather than any other fights to other boxers. We just need to wait for some official announcement. Casimero will not say anything about confirmed fight if there's no inside information he got.



Hype = big money so if this two fighters will hype more there selves then this fight which many fans awaits will surely happen, but I believe they will make this fight done as Inoue is pissed off to Casimero already and their are things needed to prove up that's why I really believe that they will make this huge event happen. Yeah and since casimero already give a hint about their possible upcoming fight for sure the only thing they wait is the agreement between their management.
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Seeing the current hype and situation recently, looks like this fight is more possible to happen rather than any other fights to other boxers. We just need to wait for some official announcement. Casimero will not say anything about confirmed fight if there's no inside information he got.

The fight should happened before but because of the pandemic, it was cancelled. It's time now to settle the things and continue the cancelled fight regardless of where it should be held.

Most likely it will happen, he was taunting Inoue and now the he got his attention, it seems that they are now working on contract.

Inoue's first choice though was Donaire, but it seems everything has change. Donaire can wait, but Inoue vs Casimero should happen first. I remember Arum telling Casimero to be patience (last year), but he found a way now for Arum to set up the fight (Inoue's insistent).
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Then now we are completely assured of Inoue vs Casimero fight and Donaire is taking side place?

the only thing we need to hear is the finalization of when and where the fight will be held.


I will take Inoue against casimero because the man is full of trashtalk while Ionue remains silent but dangerous.
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No trashtalks from Inoue only Casimero. If the former will do trash talk back, it will make the fight having more attention to the market.

If Casimero will win the fight, that's a great step towards the rankings and more big-money contracts will be given to him. If Inoue will win, he can climb up now to another weight division and bring his talent on the Westside.

Casimero is now bridging the lake of fire! After that trash talk, he needs now to do everything to win against Inoue or else he would be forgotten.

We see lots of boxing champ and once you missed your chance, it's easier for the promoters to replaced
you with another sensation fighter, Casimero needs to bring the win to his belt as knowing how fans and
bookies will favor Inoue and all the eyes are with him being crashed too hard.

If he wins, though, that's a good drama for the promoters. It means a good rematch and bring more money to their tables.
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This could make the fight more interesting since those trash talking sessions are marketable strategy to sell this fight and seems they are successful as many people caught then interest to watch this fight, I wonder how this bout if Casimero will will this fight for sure this bring more boost to his career but if he lose then this could be a huge upset to his career. I also wonder if Inoue will win if he will go up to since he's totally good and deserve to go up then try to win more belts or titles there.

No trashtalks from Inoue only Casimero. If the former will do trash talk back, it will make the fight having more attention to the market.

But Inoue is responding, and he takes all this trash talk personal, that's why he wanted to fight Casimero right away.

If Casimero will win the fight, that's a great step towards the rankings and more big-money contracts will be given to him. If Inoue will win, he can climb up now to another weight division and bring his talent on the Westside.

It's either a rematch, which will make more money for him, or Donaire fight. I think Donaire can't avoid it and should focus on the fight instead of Casimero's trash talking. Yes, US is still the best country to bring your talent and make a name for yourself, just like what Pacquiao did.
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This could make the fight more interesting since those trash talking sessions are marketable strategy to sell this fight and seems they are successful as many people caught then interest to watch this fight, I wonder how this bout if Casimero will will this fight for sure this bring more boost to his career but if he lose then this could be a huge upset to his career. I also wonder if Inoue will win if he will go up to since he's totally good and deserve to go up then try to win more belts or titles there.

No trashtalks from Inoue only Casimero. If the former will do trash talk back, it will make the fight having more attention to the market.

If Casimero will win the fight, that's a great step towards the rankings and more big-money contracts will be given to him. If Inoue will win, he can climb up now to another weight division and bring his talent on the Westside.
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But actually our IDOLs become more motivated when they are becoming a victim of trash talks like what casimero is doing . we have seen many boxers and even MMA fighters who had been beaten their opponents because of being a trash talking .
some even attacks their personal life and makes them more angry in winning.
so lets just take this action of casimero as challenge for his opponent to do their best in the ring, and also makes their fight more attractive and more bets will come their way.

It's ok to thrash talks to generate interest in the fight but going personal is something that is not right, boxers should only thrash talk about their style and their previous fights but never on colors of the skin, nationality personal lives, and sexual preferences, and religious beliefs, thrash talk should be confined between the two fighters and their style of fighting, it's unprofessional and bad taste.

Boxers should set up as a good example to their fans to the community their kids.
In fact, trash-talking making more sense, and this will also give life in boxing and creates more action in the ring just to prove how bad they are. If we could see more trash talkers end losing, however, Casimero did this so many times and he never fails, but I don't think if he could make this to Inoue this time.
But anyway, It was his style, in fact, I love been doing this. 

This could make the fight more interesting since those trash talking sessions are marketable strategy to sell this fight and seems they are successful as many people caught then interest to watch this fight, I wonder how this bout if Casimero will will this fight for sure this bring more boost to his career but if he lose then this could be a huge upset to his career. I also wonder if Inoue will win if he will go up to since he's totally good and deserve to go up then try to win more belts or titles there.
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But actually our IDOLs become more motivated when they are becoming a victim of trash talks like what casimero is doing . we have seen many boxers and even MMA fighters who had been beaten their opponents because of being a trash talking .
some even attacks their personal life and makes them more angry in winning.
so lets just take this action of casimero as challenge for his opponent to do their best in the ring, and also makes their fight more attractive and more bets will come their way.

It's ok to thrash talks to generate interest in the fight but going personal is something that is not right, boxers should only thrash talk about their style and their previous fights but never on colors of the skin, nationality personal lives, and sexual preferences, and religious beliefs, thrash talk should be confined between the two fighters and their style of fighting, it's unprofessional and bad taste.

Boxers should set up as a good example to their fans to the community their kids.
In fact, trash-talking making more sense, and this will also give life in boxing and creates more action in the ring just to prove how bad they are. If we could see more trash talkers end losing, however, Casimero did this so many times and he never fails, but I don't think if he could make this to Inoue this time.
But anyway, It was his style, in fact, I love been doing this. 
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Seeing the current hype and situation recently, looks like this fight is more possible to happen rather than any other fights to other boxers. We just need to wait for some official announcement. Casimero will not say anything about confirmed fight if there's no inside information he got.

The fight should happened before but because of the pandemic, it was cancelled. It's time now to settle the things and continue the cancelled fight regardless of where it should be held.
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Casimero will not have a problem hitting Inoue as he is not like Rigo who runs and hit, Inoue loves to trade punches, his jab is very effective that's why Casimero has to be careful with that, but, if he really wants to fight toe to toe, I think with lack of defense, one will go down before round 6.

Inoue will clearly be listed as the favorite, probably a 1/3 odds or even lower, so it's worth taking the odds of the underdog.

That will become a problem If can't efficiency land his punches. Naoya has a good footwork and anticipation of opponents punches, he could also make a counter puncher easily, especially with an aggressive opponent like Casimero.

Casimero will indeed double his carefulness and guard with this fight, because Inoue isn't just aiming to knock you out by hitting your head consistently. He has crazy head and body shots combinations.

Casimero is clearly and obviously the underdog here. So, I guess putting the odds lower than what you have mentioned will attract more bettors in favour of Casimero.
Being aggressive is good but he should really be mindful about his defense because once he do give up some openings then this is where Inoue do really shines since this kid is really a good technical fighter.

He do knows on when to punch neither on some opportunities that he can really land some good solid hit which i can say that Casimero should be careful of because if not then high chance
that he would be taken down.So he should be watchful.
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Casimero will not have a problem hitting Inoue as he is not like Rigo who runs and hit, Inoue loves to trade punches, his jab is very effective that's why Casimero has to be careful with that, but, if he really wants to fight toe to toe, I think with lack of defense, one will go down before round 6.

Inoue will clearly be listed as the favorite, probably a 1/3 odds or even lower, so it's worth taking the odds of the underdog.

That will become a problem If can't efficiency land his punches. Naoya has a good footwork and anticipation of opponents punches, he could also make a counter puncher easily, especially with an aggressive opponent like Casimero.

Casimero will indeed double his carefulness and guard with this fight, because Inoue isn't just aiming to knock you out by hitting your head consistently. He has crazy head and body shots combinations.

Casimero is clearly and obviously the underdog here. So, I guess putting the odds lower than what you have mentioned will attract more bettors in favour of Casimero.
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The thing here is that if he would be taken down by Inoue then those trashtalks wont be effective anymore on possible next opponents that he would have.

You got it. That's the thing that others don't get especially in Facebook comments that it's just good for them if Casimero will trashtalk because he is selling the fight or just being arrogant. There's a risk on what he's doing.

It's ok to be comfortable that he can beat either Donaire and Inoue but crossing the lines thru trash talk and then he will lose later on will result in his trash talk not being an effective tool for marketing on his future fight.
He is trash talking because he really wants to fight Inoue, although it really shows how arrogant he is for doing that. Losing after trash talking your opponent is a slap to him if ever. I dont like this attitude of Casimero being too confident and underestimating someone because its not really necessary. Its better for him to prove how strong he is inside the ring when the right time comes because actions speak louder than words.
Action speaks louder than words indeed but in order for him to fight those top ranking or popular ones then he would really be needing to call up some attention even on the most inappropriate or non appealing
way and this is where he do end up on trashtalking.

Same goes with McGregor with his shitty attitude and what makes him popular but well on the times you've been losing despite of being too cool to look into those trashtalking if you do lost up
then those would backfire in double the effect.

every boxer has their own way how to sell their fight, and now, casimero is being labeled as trash talker but i guess, we can't judge a person by what he portrays in the public. because from what i've read in most of his supporters, he is a generous and kind person. anyway, he needs to stand out in order to make money. that's the bottom line of every fight, sell it while you can. but am surprised, the number of votes here are favouring casimero, seems that he really got the attention of users here. but more then likely, inoue will be favoured by bookies when it comes to odds.
Yes, some people do say that he's a good guy but the way he acts on the public turns out to be badass which i could consider not to be appealing but if its the way on selling out himself and making things
go in hype then for sure he will do such thing.

And now it turns out to be effective since Inoue had took the bait and there are words that it would happen on this upcoming December which might be the best fight for this year imho.
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We cannot assure that Casimero will win, but at least with how he displayed in his previous fights, this guy also has the power, so Inoue should also be careful in the fight as he might experience what happens to Tete, that one shot change the fight and he KO'd on the same round.

I know Inoue is much stronger as he survive and won in the Donaire fight, but this is another opponent, so this could give a different result.

Well, you got a point, all punches on Casimero aims at the head for a sure knock-out, but defensively speaking he got to be accurate with his punch because all boxers defense is all in that area, well a clear shot for Inoue in taking the body blows, but I can not assume that Casimero will not do a good show as well because he also has a powerful striking as well, maybe if a shot from the head would not hit Naoya Inoue can surely make a body shot land, but we can never know Casimero is also quick in his feet and may make evasion from Inoue's assaults, and yes that match against Zolani Tete and Duke Micah was truly remarkable.
Right, he is more of a head hunter type of fighter, all punches thrown with bad intent. However, if those strong blows is not hitting any target, it takes a lot of energy for a fighter. Not saying that Casimero will gas out or have poor stamina, but he should at least hit Inoue everyone round so that these powerful blows are not going down the drain. Why not go to body, yes that's also a perfect strategy for him if the head is not present as Inoue is also good at protecting his chin.

The fast pace of the fight will surely see if both fighters will surely do what they do best, I just notice with Casimero that he always looking for a fast knockout that is why he always aim for the head, but yes Naoya is good at guarding his chin, but even though I really like the style of Naoya Inoue, I am here to always support my fellow Filipino, I am just stating the facts on what may happen with the fight, Naoya is aiming the body blow where they will hurt most, and most notable for boxers that their body is always open they always tend to guard their faces, that style from Inoue will surely leave a mark on his opponent body, and when you look at the previous opponent of Inoue they are grieving in agonizing pain, let's just hope Casimero is really ready for it to experience such pain.
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We cannot assure that Casimero will win, but at least with how he displayed in his previous fights, this guy also has the power, so Inoue should also be careful in the fight as he might experience what happens to Tete, that one shot change the fight and he KO'd on the same round.

I know Inoue is much stronger as he survive and won in the Donaire fight, but this is another opponent, so this could give a different result.

Well, you got a point, all punches on Casimero aims at the head for a sure knock-out, but defensively speaking he got to be accurate with his punch because all boxers defense is all in that area, well a clear shot for Inoue in taking the body blows, but I can not assume that Casimero will not do a good show as well because he also has a powerful striking as well, maybe if a shot from the head would not hit Naoya Inoue can surely make a body shot land, but we can never know Casimero is also quick in his feet and may make evasion from Inoue's assaults, and yes that match against Zolani Tete and Duke Micah was truly remarkable.
Right, he is more of a head hunter type of fighter, all punches thrown with bad intent. However, if those strong blows is not hitting any target, it takes a lot of energy for a fighter. Not saying that Casimero will gas out or have poor stamina, but he should at least hit Inoue everyone round so that these powerful blows are not going down the drain. Why not go to body, yes that's also a perfect strategy for him if the head is not present as Inoue is also good at protecting his chin.
Casimero will not have a problem hitting Inoue as he is not like Rigo who runs and hit, Inoue loves to trade punches, his jab is very effective that's why Casimero has to be careful with that, but, if he really wants to fight toe to toe, I think with lack of defense, one will go down before round 6.

Inoue will clearly be listed as the favorite, probably a 1/3 odds or even lower, so it's worth taking the odds of the underdog.
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We cannot assure that Casimero will win, but at least with how he displayed in his previous fights, this guy also has the power, so Inoue should also be careful in the fight as he might experience what happens to Tete, that one shot change the fight and he KO'd on the same round.

I know Inoue is much stronger as he survive and won in the Donaire fight, but this is another opponent, so this could give a different result.

Well, you got a point, all punches on Casimero aims at the head for a sure knock-out, but defensively speaking he got to be accurate with his punch because all boxers defense is all in that area, well a clear shot for Inoue in taking the body blows, but I can not assume that Casimero will not do a good show as well because he also has a powerful striking as well, maybe if a shot from the head would not hit Naoya Inoue can surely make a body shot land, but we can never know Casimero is also quick in his feet and may make evasion from Inoue's assaults, and yes that match against Zolani Tete and Duke Micah was truly remarkable.
Right, he is more of a head hunter type of fighter, all punches thrown with bad intent. However, if those strong blows is not hitting any target, it takes a lot of energy for a fighter. Not saying that Casimero will gas out or have poor stamina, but he should at least hit Inoue everyone round so that these powerful blows are not going down the drain. Why not go to body, yes that's also a perfect strategy for him if the head is not present as Inoue is also good at protecting his chin.
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We cannot assure that Casimero will win, but at least with how he displayed in his previous fights, this guy also has the power, so Inoue should also be careful in the fight as he might experience what happens to Tete, that one shot change the fight and he KO'd on the same round.

I know Inoue is much stronger as he survive and won in the Donaire fight, but this is another opponent, so this could give a different result.

Well, you got a point, all punches on Casimero aims at the head for a sure knock-out, but defensively speaking he got to be accurate with his punch because all boxers defense is all in that area, well a clear shot for Inoue in taking the body blows, but I can not assume that Casimero will not do a good show as well because he also has a powerful striking as well, maybe if a shot from the head would not hit Naoya Inoue can surely make a body shot land, but we can never know Casimero is also quick in his feet and may make evasion from Inoue's assaults, and yes that match against Zolani Tete and Duke Micah was truly remarkable.
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