[Boxing] Inoue vs Casimero Bantamweight Unification Fight - page 6.

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Quote from: goinmerry on September 13, 2021, 05:14:56 AM

Quote from: freedomgo on September 13, 2021, 04:53:45 AM

Inoue will not be concerned about Donaire so he will give him a rematch, he beat him once, and now that he has a belt, maybe they could unify that belt and Inoue will be the undisputed champion. The good thing here is Inoue and Casimero are willing to fight Inoue, this is easy for Inoue to prove that he is the best, but of course, right after the Casimero fight.

The scenario after Casimero vs Inoue will be:

If Inoue wins, Casimero will ask for a rematch.
If Casimero wins, Inoue will ask for a rematch.

Then regardless of the result:

Donaire will challenge Casimero and Inoue.

In the end, if Naoya finished the 2 PH boxers successfully without losing, he will now climb up the ladder and the belt will be left to top contenders at that division.

If Inoue wins, I doubt he will give a rematch to Casimero. His next fight will be against Donaire, and if he again wins the 2nd time around, I guess he would just move to a new division so he can continue his journey in chasing the pound for found king.

Inoue is currently rank at the number 2, https://www.ringtv.com/ratings/

Canelo is sitting at the number 1, well deserved for him but Inoue could go up in weight and hopefully he would be able to bring the speed and power.

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Quote from: aioc on September 12, 2021, 09:51:50 PM

Casimero's weaknesses are exposed in his previous losses while Inoue's weakness is not yet established because he is still undefeated.

I don't see it's a weakness as even Inoue admitted himself that if he fought Rigo that time and Rigo will just run, that would probably be the same result of the fight. Casimero loves to fight a higher that is willing to beat him, not a fighter that would fight him and just survive to make easy money.

Rigo did that and the judges were convince that the more aggressive should win although Casimero did not hit Rigo with some clean shots.

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Quote from: freedomgo on September 13, 2021, 04:53:45 AM

Inoue will not be concerned about Donaire so he will give him a rematch, he beat him once, and now that he has a belt, maybe they could unify that belt and Inoue will be the undisputed champion. The good thing here is Inoue and Casimero are willing to fight Inoue, this is easy for Inoue to prove that he is the best, but of course, right after the Casimero fight.

The scenario after Casimero vs Inoue will be:

If Inoue wins, Casimero will ask for a rematch.
If Casimero wins, Inoue will ask for a rematch.

Then regardless of the result:

Donaire will challenge Casimero and Inoue.

In the end, if Naoya finished the 2 PH boxers successfully without losing, he will now climb up the ladder and the belt will be left to top contenders at that division.

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Quote from: aioc on September 13, 2021, 12:05:29 AM

Yes he is indeed a monster, after Casimero there's no more worthy opposition on his current weight category he should move up again he is currently a three-weight champion great achievement for a young boxer, there's a possibility that he can challenge Pacquiao's record he was 8 division world champion, he can do it because he started in the lightest category like Manny Pacquiao, Inoue's career has a lot of possibilities.

If Naoya Inoue will win against Casimero there's still a business that needed to be finished on their division, not because of career but as a form of respect. He needs to make a rematch with Donaire because of the struggle he experienced defeating the veteran boxer.

But honestly, either Inoue or Casimero will lose here, a rematch is expected to happen unless one of them got overpowered different from the case of Donaire vs Inoue where the fight is close that's why a rematch is somehow necessary.

Inoue will not be concerned about Donaire so he will give him a rematch, he beat him once, and now that he has a belt, maybe they could unify that belt and Inoue will be the undisputed champion. The good thing here is Inoue and Casimero are willing to fight Inoue, this is easy for Inoue to prove that he is the best, but of course, right after the Casimero fight.

Donaire would only fight Inoue, and he is waiting for him, he will not anymore go up as he is not getting any younger, and just like Inoue, that's his purpose too to avenge his loses and take the belt of Inoue, so give him another chance in this rematch, besides, this will be another big fight that both will benefit in terms of revenue they'll make.

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Quote from: harizen on September 13, 2021, 02:08:01 AM

Quote from: aioc on September 13, 2021, 12:05:29 AM

Yes he is indeed a monster, after Casimero there's no more worthy opposition on his current weight category he should move up again he is currently a three-weight champion great achievement for a young boxer, there's a possibility that he can challenge Pacquiao's record he was 8 division world champion, he can do it because he started in the lightest category like Manny Pacquiao, Inoue's career has a lot of possibilities.

If Naoya Inoue will win against Casimero there's still a business that needed to be finished on their division, not because of career but as a form of respect. He needs to make a rematch with Donaire because of the struggle he experienced defeating the veteran boxer.

But honestly, either Inoue or Casimero will lose here, a rematch is expected to happen unless one of them got overpowered different from the case of Donaire vs Inoue where the fight is close that's why a rematch is somehow necessary.

Inoue will not be concerned about Donaire so he will give him a rematch, he beat him once, and now that he has a belt, maybe they could unify that belt and Inoue will be the undisputed champion. The good thing here is Inoue and Casimero are willing to fight Inoue, this is easy for Inoue to prove that he is the best, but of course, right after the Casimero fight.

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Quote from: aioc on September 13, 2021, 12:05:29 AM

Yes he is indeed a monster, after Casimero there's no more worthy opposition on his current weight category he should move up again he is currently a three-weight champion great achievement for a young boxer, there's a possibility that he can challenge Pacquiao's record he was 8 division world champion, he can do it because he started in the lightest category like Manny Pacquiao, Inoue's career has a lot of possibilities.

If Naoya Inoue will win against Casimero there's still a business that needed to be finished on their division, not because of career but as a form of respect. He needs to make a rematch with Donaire because of the struggle he experienced defeating the veteran boxer.

But honestly, either Inoue or Casimero will lose here, a rematch is expected to happen unless one of them got overpowered different from the case of Donaire vs Inoue where the fight is close that's why a rematch is somehow necessary.

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Quote from: yazher on September 12, 2021, 11:37:43 PM

If he can still be undefeated after this fight then he is the real monster but until then, he needs to finish Casimero first without delay. I think it's time for them to step in the ring now since they are out of an opponent to choose anymore and they just need to forget about Donaire because he already passed his prime he has nothing to show anymore. When this fight happens I think it should be in the USA where the big stage is much appreciated.

Yes he is indeed a monster, after Casimero there's no more worthy opposition on his current weight category he should move up again he is currently a three-weight champion great achievement for a young boxer, there's a possibility that he can challenge Pacquiao's record he was 8 division world champion, he can do it because he started in the lightest category like Manny Pacquiao, Inoue's career has a lot of possibilities.

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Quote from: aioc on September 12, 2021, 09:51:50 PM

Casimero's loss to Sultan suddenly comes up after news of Sultan coming fight against Caraballo was announced I have seen the fight it happens four years ago and it's an ugly loss for Casimero because he has fought a fighter who can take his punch and can duck and counter punch, I wonder if Inoue could be as tough as Sultan when he faces Inoue.

Casimero's weaknesses are exposed in his previous losses while Inoue's weakness is not yet established because he is still undefeated.

If he can still be undefeated after this fight then he is the real monster but until then, he needs to finish Casimero first without delay. I think it's time for them to step in the ring now since they are out of an opponent to choose anymore and they just need to forget about Donaire because he already passed his prime he has nothing to show anymore. When this fight happens I think it should be in the USA where the big stage is much appreciated.

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Casimero's loss to Sultan suddenly comes up after news of Sultan coming fight against Caraballo was announced I have seen the fight it happens four years ago and it's an ugly loss for Casimero because he has fought a fighter who can take his punch and can duck and counter punch, I wonder if Inoue could be as tough as Sultan when he faces Inoue.

Casimero's weaknesses are exposed in his previous losses while Inoue's weakness is not yet established because he is still undefeated.

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So the risk is greater for him in this fight as compare to Casimero because he is the one going to prove a point like shutting down the mouth of Casimero for good and take his belt and then go after Donaire next.

He is betting his belt as well as this is going to be a unification match, Casimero is not on the top, so the pressure is not on him, however, since Casimero wants to be successful, he would always think of winning just like every boxer who wants to be the most successful in their division.
Casimero though he talks a lot but he is not all talk, the way he fights in the ring, you can see his aggressiveness, so he is really willing to give a good fight to the fans, that's why fans admired him.

Well, here Casimero has nothing to lose right. But Inoue has his belt at stake. So Casimero can do all the shit-talking he wants just to provoke Inoue. Also as Inoue is the champion, the pressure is more on him than on Casimero. I hope the pressure does not get the better of him because Casimero will play kind of tension-free and with him playing like there is nothing to lose, he will have the upper hand in the fight.

Inoue face so many champions and defeat them by K.O so I think he's not pressured to fight Casimero but I think the right word to be used is prepared since for sure he will study how Casimero play in the ring. This is the toughest fight of Casimero knowing Inoue is flashy and powerful opponent so if he can defeat this monster then this is a huge milestone of his career and provably next we can see Donaire vs Casimero if he win this fight.

Definitely, these 2 will prepare for this fight. As many boxing fans are expecting to watch for this bout, because of the growing interest owed to Casimero's trash talks. They will prepare themselves so they won't disappoint their respective followers. This is really getting interest and their promoters I believe are ironing things to make this match happen this year. But my bet maybe is still on Inoue, curious what odds the bookies will have on this one.

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Quote from: LittleBitFunny on September 11, 2021, 09:06:10 AM

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So the risk is greater for him in this fight as compare to Casimero because he is the one going to prove a point like shutting down the mouth of Casimero for good and take his belt and then go after Donaire next.

He is betting his belt as well as this is going to be a unification match, Casimero is not on the top, so the pressure is not on him, however, since Casimero wants to be successful, he would always think of winning just like every boxer who wants to be the most successful in their division.
Casimero though he talks a lot but he is not all talk, the way he fights in the ring, you can see his aggressiveness, so he is really willing to give a good fight to the fans, that's why fans admired him.

Well, here Casimero has nothing to lose right. But Inoue has his belt at stake. So Casimero can do all the shit-talking he wants just to provoke Inoue. Also as Inoue is the champion, the pressure is more on him than on Casimero. I hope the pressure does not get the better of him because Casimero will play kind of tension-free and with him playing like there is nothing to lose, he will have the upper hand in the fight.

Inoue face so many champions and defeat them by K.O so I think he's not pressured to fight Casimero but I think the right word to be used is prepared since for sure he will study how Casimero play in the ring. This is the toughest fight of Casimero knowing Inoue is flashy and powerful opponent so if he can defeat this monster then this is a huge milestone of his career and provably next we can see Donaire vs Casimero if he win this fight.

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Also as Inoue is the champion, the pressure is more on him than on Casimero. I hope the pressure does not get the better of him because Casimero will play kind of tension-free and with him playing like there is nothing to lose, he will have the upper hand in the fight.

What are you saying? Do you think someone like Naoya Inoue will be pressure? He faces already lots of challenges that wants to take his spot. That pressure is not a question. Inoue is already used to that and not a problem to him.

And with those trashtalks he received, he is even more inspired to beat the hell out of Casimero to finally shut down his mouth.

That will be a good and close bout! Can't wait for it to happen.

It's hard to tell if he is pressure or not because this is a different opponent compared to the opponents he dominated before. Casimero is in his prime and Inoue had some struggling fighter Donaire who is already not in his prime, so let's see if Inoue could still pull a very convening win in this one.

I'm sure Casimero will consider this fight as the biggest fight of his career, so it's expected that he will train hard, improve his conditioning so he can take the hard punches of Inoue. This will be a war, no retreat no surrender as both wants a KO win.

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Quote from: LittleBitFunny on September 11, 2021, 09:06:10 AM

Well, here Casimero has nothing to lose right. But Inoue has his belt at stake. So Casimero can do all the shit-talking he wants just to provoke Inoue. Also as Inoue is the champion, the pressure is more on him than on Casimero. I hope the pressure does not get the better of him because Casimero will play kind of tension-free and with him playing like there is nothing to lose, he will have the upper hand in the fight.

It's a way to market their match and he sold it first to Inoue since there's another potential opponent that he's about to box after his most recent fight. And as he talks like that, that's normal and strategy to get every fan on hype and will definitely watch the match for satisfaction whether he wins or lose. We just want to see the result of it not because of how he fights but how he talked and that's making everyone interested in it. I think we have to somehow settle his shit talking and credit these both fighters for how they really fight and what must be credited to them.

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Quote from: LittleBitFunny on September 11, 2021, 09:06:10 AM

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Quote from: Kemarit on September 10, 2021, 11:22:37 PM

So the risk is greater for him in this fight as compare to Casimero because he is the one going to prove a point like shutting down the mouth of Casimero for good and take his belt and then go after Donaire next.

He is betting his belt as well as this is going to be a unification match, Casimero is not on the top, so the pressure is not on him, however, since Casimero wants to be successful, he would always think of winning just like every boxer who wants to be the most successful in their division.
Casimero though he talks a lot but he is not all talk, the way he fights in the ring, you can see his aggressiveness, so he is really willing to give a good fight to the fans, that's why fans admired him.

Well, here Casimero has nothing to lose right. But Inoue has his belt at stake. So Casimero can do all the shit-talking he wants just to provoke Inoue. Also as Inoue is the champion, the pressure is more on him than on Casimero. I hope the pressure does not get the better of him because Casimero will play kind of tension-free and with him playing like there is nothing to lose, he will have the upper hand in the fight.

While that can be without a doubt one factor that influences the outcome of the fight at the same time I do not really like the way Casimero is approaching all of this, Inoue is not a fighter you can play with and it seems to me that Casimero is not taking this seriously enough, and if this is not a perception but an actual reality then there is a big chance that Inoue is going to win this fight even before they get to the ring as he prepares himself very seriously while his opponent does not.

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Quote from: LittleBitFunny on September 11, 2021, 09:06:10 AM

Also as Inoue is the champion, the pressure is more on him than on Casimero. I hope the pressure does not get the better of him because Casimero will play kind of tension-free and with him playing like there is nothing to lose, he will have the upper hand in the fight.

What are you saying? Do you think someone like Naoya Inoue will be pressure? He faces already lots of challenges that wants to take his spot. That pressure is not a question. Inoue is already used to that and not a problem to him.

And with those trashtalks he received, he is even more inspired to beat the hell out of Casimero to finally shut down his mouth.

That will be a good and close bout! Can't wait for it to happen.

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Quote from: stadus on September 11, 2021, 12:50:37 AM

Quote from: Kemarit on September 10, 2021, 11:22:37 PM

So the risk is greater for him in this fight as compare to Casimero because he is the one going to prove a point like shutting down the mouth of Casimero for good and take his belt and then go after Donaire next.

He is betting his belt as well as this is going to be a unification match, Casimero is not on the top, so the pressure is not on him, however, since Casimero wants to be successful, he would always think of winning just like every boxer who wants to be the most successful in their division.
Casimero though he talks a lot but he is not all talk, the way he fights in the ring, you can see his aggressiveness, so he is really willing to give a good fight to the fans, that's why fans admired him.

Well, here Casimero has nothing to lose right. But Inoue has his belt at stake. So Casimero can do all the shit-talking he wants just to provoke Inoue. Also as Inoue is the champion, the pressure is more on him than on Casimero. I hope the pressure does not get the better of him because Casimero will play kind of tension-free and with him playing like there is nothing to lose, he will have the upper hand in the fight.

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Quote from: Finestream on September 10, 2021, 05:12:25 PM

With a good game plan, anything is possible.
The fact that Casimero is a heavy puncher, if he hit Inoue with some clean shots, we might see the same scenario we saw on the Tete fight.

Well, you are right, and right now maybe Casimero's camp is preparing something to really counter the power shot's of Naoya Inoue, but yes John Riel Casimero is also a heavy puncher he can surely hurt Inoue, and unlike Donaire, I think there is more power in Casimero's punch, well just my assumption.

Quote from: Finestream on September 10, 2021, 05:12:25 PM

We don't have to be scared because Casimero himself understood the risk and he is confident that he has the power to beat and survive against Inoue. If Donaire were able to survive against Inoue, I have no doubt that Casimero can do better.

Or maybe Casimero has seen something from that previews fight, they are really analyzing Inoue a lot to make a deal to fight Naoya Inoue, and I think you are right they are really targeting the most venerable in the boxing industry and really focus their goals insight only on Naoya Inoue.

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You might call him brave for calling Inoue's, but for sure that is Casimero's goal, to get all the belts, and of course for the biggest pay check of his career. Rigo is done already, he beat the man who beat Donaire, that is already an accomplishment for him. for the Inoue fight, it will be different as both are willing to engage in the ring and both have knockout power and will not run against each other.

Pretty much I am really scared for Casimero, Inoue Is a serious monster, and I have seen a lot of his opponents crawling in pain because of that dangerous body shots, he really needs to train those abdomen of his for those shots, because it is a sure win for Naoya Inoue if he can not withstand those punches.

Inoue has really one of the most powerful body shots in this lower class, but I think Donaire take it and maybe Casimero too can absorb that blow in the money and not fold like what others did when they feel the power behind it. And it Inoue can give body shots, maybe Casimero too can give his own and try to get Inoue's reaction. So let's see if Casimero will just take it in stride or feel the body shots of Inoue because that one of his best weapon, a left hook to the body.

Inoue was too careful during his fight against Donaire, he knows the capability of Donaire can KO an opponent with one clean counter punch, if we saw the fight, we will see how Inoue has effectively used his jab and knowing that Donaire is taller than him, he was still able to do it effectively, how much more with Casimero.

However, Casimero is a powerful puncher too, so I think the fight will not end early as it will be a chess match battle.

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Quote from: YuginKadoya on September 10, 2021, 02:46:35 PM

Quote from: Jating on September 09, 2021, 06:39:29 PM

You might call him brave for calling Inoue's, but for sure that is Casimero's goal, to get all the belts, and of course for the biggest pay check of his career. Rigo is done already, he beat the man who beat Donaire, that is already an accomplishment for him. for the Inoue fight, it will be different as both are willing to engage in the ring and both have knockout power and will not run against each other.

Pretty much I am really scared for Casimero, Inoue Is a serious monster, and I have seen a lot of his opponents crawling in pain because of that dangerous body shots, he really needs to train those abdomen of his for those shots, because it is a sure win for Naoya Inoue if he can not withstand those punches.

Inoue has really one of the most powerful body shots in this lower class, but I think Donaire take it and maybe Casimero too can absorb that blow in the money and not fold like what others did when they feel the power behind it. And it Inoue can give body shots, maybe Casimero too can give his own and try to get Inoue's reaction. So let's see if Casimero will just take it in stride or feel the body shots of Inoue because that one of his best weapon, a left hook to the body.

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Quote from: goinmerry on September 11, 2021, 04:00:33 AM

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Casimero though he talks a lot but he is not all talk, the way he fights in the ring, you can see his aggressiveness, so he is really willing to give a good fight to the fans, that's why fans admired him.

He should. It's a disgrace if he is just full of talks. Aggressiveness is good but not a good tactic against Naoya Inoue. This guy is far different from Casimero's previous match that's why don't talk first but proved it to the ring.

As I read some news, the fight has a higher chance to happened to compare involving Donaire. Maybe Donaire should just allow those two to fight first before entering the scene. Donaire's fight against either Casimero or Inoue will soon happen so he just need to wait.

He does not only talk, he only talks a lot because he wants to get a good fight, and now that Inoue has already agreed, then we should see a big fight, if he did not talk a lot, then probably we will see a Donaire vs Inoue fight which we already saw before.

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