[Boxing] Inoue vs Tapales for Unified Super Bantamweight Title - December 26 - page 17.

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Quote from: carlisle1 on October 11, 2023, 03:17:21 AM

Yup, Inoue's power punches can bring Tapales to kiss the canvass just like how Donaire ends his rematch against the monster.
like what you said, it's tough to find the right strategy, but he Tapales needed that.

For now, the delay of the schedule will give him time to prepare and to continue working with whatever his camp thinks that will help him.

Something that may allow him to stand out and surprise Inoue. Whatever it is or whatever strategy may it be, he needs to build that
confidence as in overall stats, Inoue really got a far advantage.

ATM, Tapales is busy with his training and last time i've heard is that he is in Baguio City and he is tapping Vincent Astrolabio as his main sparring partner, this is a big help for Tapales since Astrolabio is also a world-class boxer. Tapales is known to adjust to whatever style his opponent may bring so I think Inoue might be surprised if what they saw on tape might be different from actual.

Though not official rumors had it that this fight would take place on December 26, right after Christmas Day.

Tapales needs to give it his all in what's the most significant fight of his boxing career. Perhaps Inoue is underestimating him, but Tapales should use that as motivation to work even harder and prove that he's a world-class fighter. I can't even fathom how Japanese fans would react if their beloved hero were to be knocked out by an underrated champion.

Personally, I think it's within the realm of possibility, but when I set aside my Filipino bias and look at it objectively, my gut feeling is that Inoue might secure an easy knockout. However, I don't want to undermine Tapales' dedication and effort. He's working relentlessly for what's undoubtedly the most challenging battle of his career, and I'll wholeheartedly support him.

I also can't imagine how the fans will react if they see their hero kissing the floor and suffered from a unexpected KO, though Tapales chance
is really low but I like what you mentioned about being motivated and try upsetting Inoue.

In this sport, we all know that it's not impossible for the heavy favorite to lose the fight, just a single solid lucky punch that converts
Tapales road to win will take his name on top!

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@cryptomaniac_xxx. I reckon if Casimero is lucky to have this fight against Nery, gets a knockout or makes a very impressive performance, I reckon team Inoue might be persuaded to Casimero if there is a possbility that it can be a fight for big money.

It looks like that won't happen because after Casimero defeated Duke Micah he said that if he didn't fight Inoue then he would fight Nery and in reality Casimero actually fought Inoue so it would be impossible for him to meet Nery.

You are talking about a fight in the bantamweight division, which happened quite some time ago. Now, they are competing in the super bantamweight division, where Inoue and Tapales both hold two belts. Casimero is not considered a top challenger due to his low ranking. However, Nery could be a mandatory challenger. According to reports, he was already banned from fighting in Japan, so they'll have to take the fight elsewhere if that happens.

For Casimero to fight Inoue, he must become a mandatory challenger. This will only happen if Casimero rises to the top of the rankings, just below the champion, who is Nery. Therefore, it's likely that Nery will face Casimero, and the winner will then take on Inoue.

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However, Casimero is facing a Japanese fighter on October 12, is he not? This might also have team Inoue watching because the fight will be in Japan. Casimero might give another trashtalk heheheh.

The fight against Yukinori Oguni ended in a draw and this made Inoue more superior because the fight against Yukinori Oguni could be taken as lesson to find Casimero weakest point.
But really the match was like drama because referees one and two gave Casimero the superior point but the third referee gave the superior point to Yukinori Oguni which made the fight end in draw.

The outcome of the match was controversial; some believe it should not have ended in a draw since the headbutt came later after Casimero hit Oguni with a clean shot. However, as you know, the referee's decision is final, unless Casimero's camp decides to contest it, which could take a significant amount of time before a decision is reached.

As for Casimero's performance, it has notably declined, and he has not secured any convincing wins. Therefore, he needs to work on improving his ranking first.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on October 10, 2023, 10:53:13 PM

@cryptomaniac_xxx. I reckon if Casimero is lucky to have this fight against Nery, gets a knockout or makes a very impressive performance, I reckon team Inoue might be persuaded to Casimero if there is a possbility that it can be a fight for big money.

It looks like that won't happen because after Casimero defeated Duke Micah he said that if he didn't fight Inoue then he would fight Nery and in reality Casimero actually fought Inoue so it would be impossible for him to meet Nery.

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However, Casimero is facing a Japanese fighter on October 12, is he not? This might also have team Inoue watching because the fight will be in Japan. Casimero might give another trashtalk heheheh.

The fight against Yukinori Oguni ended in a draw and this made Inoue more superior because the fight against Yukinori Oguni could be taken as lesson to find Casimero weakest point.
But really the match was like drama because referees one and two gave Casimero the superior point but the third referee gave the superior point to Yukinori Oguni which made the fight end in draw.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on October 20, 2023, 06:15:41 AM

Quote from: carlisle1 on October 11, 2023, 03:17:21 AM

Yup, Inoue's power punches can bring Tapales to kiss the canvass just like how Donaire ends his rematch against the monster.
like what you said, it's tough to find the right strategy, but he Tapales needed that.

For now, the delay of the schedule will give him time to prepare and to continue working with whatever his camp thinks that will help him.

Something that may allow him to stand out and surprise Inoue. Whatever it is or whatever strategy may it be, he needs to build that
confidence as in overall stats, Inoue really got a far advantage.

ATM, Tapales is busy with his training and last time i've heard is that he is in Baguio City and he is tapping Vincent Astrolabio as his main sparring partner, this is a big help for Tapales since Astrolabio is also a world-class boxer. Tapales is known to adjust to whatever style his opponent may bring so I think Inoue might be surprised if what they saw on tape might be different from actual.

Though not official rumors had it that this fight would take place on December 26, right after Christmas Day.

Tapales needs to give it his all in what's the most significant fight of his boxing career. Perhaps Inoue is underestimating him, but Tapales should use that as motivation to work even harder and prove that he's a world-class fighter. I can't even fathom how Japanese fans would react if their beloved hero were to be knocked out by an underrated champion.

Personally, I think it's within the realm of possibility, but when I set aside my Filipino bias and look at it objectively, my gut feeling is that Inoue might secure an easy knockout. However, I don't want to undermine Tapales' dedication and effort. He's working relentlessly for what's undoubtedly the most challenging battle of his career, and I'll wholeheartedly support him.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on October 20, 2023, 06:15:41 AM

Quote from: carlisle1 on October 11, 2023, 03:17:21 AM

Yup, Inoue's power punches can bring Tapales to kiss the canvass just like how Donaire ends his rematch against the monster.
like what you said, it's tough to find the right strategy, but he Tapales needed that.

For now, the delay of the schedule will give him time to prepare and to continue working with whatever his camp thinks that will help him.

Something that may allow him to stand out and surprise Inoue. Whatever it is or whatever strategy may it be, he needs to build that
confidence as in overall stats, Inoue really got a far advantage.

ATM, Tapales is busy with his training and last time i've heard is that he is in Baguio City and he is tapping Vincent Astrolabio as his main sparring partner, this is a big help for Tapales since Astrolabio is also a world-class boxer. Tapales is known to adjust to whatever style his opponent may bring so I think Inoue might be surprised if what they saw on tape might be different from actual.

That's good to hear that he is training in the Philippines with world class sparring partners. But we all know that no can can copy of Inoue and specially the power that he possesses. So again, just like what we are saying, it's going to be the biggest task for Tapales to beat Inoue. But he needs all the help, and it's good to hear the Vincent Astrolabio is willing to help in an capacity.

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Though not official rumors had it that this fight would take place on December 26, right after Christmas Day.

Doesn't matter to this boxers, they are willing to sacrifice just to pursue their dreams. Specially for Tapales, because if ever he will beat Inoue then he will be a unified champion and he will be the first one to deal Inoue his first pro defeat.

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Quote from: carlisle1 on October 11, 2023, 03:17:21 AM

Yup, Inoue's power punches can bring Tapales to kiss the canvass just like how Donaire ends his rematch against the monster.
like what you said, it's tough to find the right strategy, but he Tapales needed that.

For now, the delay of the schedule will give him time to prepare and to continue working with whatever his camp thinks that will help him.

Something that may allow him to stand out and surprise Inoue. Whatever it is or whatever strategy may it be, he needs to build that
confidence as in overall stats, Inoue really got a far advantage.

ATM, Tapales is busy with his training and last time i've heard is that he is in Baguio City and he is tapping Vincent Astrolabio as his main sparring partner, this is a big help for Tapales since Astrolabio is also a world-class boxer. Tapales is known to adjust to whatever style his opponent may bring so I think Inoue might be surprised if what they saw on tape might be different from actual.

Though not official rumors had it that this fight would take place on December 26, right after Christmas Day.

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Tapales can use this opportunity to scout more about Inoue's fighting strategy. He needed to work more to find possible ways to beat or
to counter Inoue's power, though the winning chance probably won't change.

But giving that time to equip his fighting capabilities to stay up and a possible surviving the fight for possible decision ending.

We never know what fate will be for Tapales if both luck and good preparation will give him the winning outcome.

Tapales should avoid thinking about taking the fight to a decision because I'm absolutely certain it won't be in his favor. Inoue is known for his knockout ability, so Tapales needs to have confidence in his own power and believe that he can match Inoue's strength. This mindset will make him more aggressive and motivate him to go for the knockout. There's no chance of victory if he doesn't take that approach.

Could be, but it's very hard to go toe to toe against Inoue, Donaire uses that strategy and get caught by a huge punch and was out in 2 rounds. Fulton tries to be cautious, however he made one mistakes and that's what Inoue wanted and then gets him in the canvass and that's it. That's why it's hard to see what kind of strategy Tapales will have to do in order to win this fight.

He could go and make the fight and rough Inoue, but I don't think that fans gonna love it when we see him just hugging Inoue. So we will see what kind of strategy they will have but Tapales should have a lot of plans just in case. So it means going full 12 rounds and hopefully he can win in the judges scorecard and there's no home cook decision.

Yup, Inoue's power punches can bring Tapales to kiss the canvass just like how Donaire ends his rematch against the monster.
like what you said, it's tough to find the right strategy, but he Tapales needed that.

For now, the delay of the schedule will give him time to prepare and to continue working with whatever his camp thinks that will help him.

Something that may allow him to stand out and surprise Inoue. Whatever it is or whatever strategy may it be, he needs to build that
confidence as in overall stats, Inoue really got a far advantage.

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For those who are waiting some updates on the fight, it says that it could be around Mid December,

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“One week of intense training has ended,” Inoue stated in a post, accompanied by a photo sporting a chiseled physique alongside his team members. “I had a good training session and am ready to switch on for December.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/inoue-one-week-intense-training-ended-ready-switch-on-december--178188

So it's good to hear that this fight is still a go. Because there have been some doubts earlier, regarding the purse split and that the camp of Tapales didn't accept the offer. So maybe there is some stipulations on the contract and most likely the Tapales camp has agreed in terms.

What would be these stipulations? I speculate that it will depend on the event's sales and revenue. If it is more than what the have expected, they might give more money for Tapales' purse. I reckon Tapales should also gamble on himself that the organizers should add money in his purse if the fight ended over 10.5 rounds or reduce the money if under hehe.

Tapales might be underestimated for this fight. I am not predicting that he will be victorious, however, this fight might become similar to Naoya vs. Nonito 1.

When it comes to the purse, I doubt they'll spill the beans publicly, but I'm thinking it'll be fair for Tapales once this fight gets the green light. Now, hoping for this fight to be like Inoue vs. Donaire 1? Well, I'm not so sure. Inoue and Tapales, they've got their own unique styles in the boxing game, and their confidence levels, well, they're on different wavelengths.

I mean, Donaire was a superstar in his own right, reigning in the bantamweight division before Inoue handed him that tough loss. So, expecting a replay of that epic showdown might be a bit of a stretch.

However, Tapales caused an upset by winning the other 2 super bantamweight championships by split decision vs. the undefeated boxer from Uzbekistan. I reckon fans might have their heads shaking after the fight hehehe. Also, everyone knows already that Naoya Inoue is the favorite, however, I am only implying that Tapales should not be underestimated.

Totally get what you're saying! Comparing Tapales to Uzbekistan is one thing, but putting him up against Inoue is a whole different ball game. Inoue's a global boxing sensation, no doubt about it. Uzbekistan's champ, while solid, hasn't quite hit that superstar status yet. So, if Tapales had to really grind it out for a split decision against the Uzbek, he better be ready to kick it up a notch facing Inoue – that's a whole new level of challenge right there!

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@cryptomaniac_xxx. I reckon if Casimero is lucky to have this fight against Nery, gets a knockout or makes a very impressive performance, I reckon team Inoue might be persuaded to Casimero if there is a possbility that it can be a fight for big money.

However, Casimero is facing a Japanese fighter on October 12, is he not? This might also have team Inoue watching because the fight will be in Japan. Casimero might give another trashtalk heheheh.

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And most likely that's why we wanted to see first if Nery can win against Casimero before going to Inoue. This two are well known trash talkers so it will be a great and interesting fight. Both of them are power punchers, so they are proud and wanted to knock each other out. And so I'm not surprised on what you describe on Nery.

Maybe have tried to undermined the Japanese and I think we do see it before. Just like in the case of Manny Pacquiao wherein guys like Ricky Hatton, Oscar Dela Hoya, Margarito or even Miguel Cotto doesn't consider Manny the monster that time, but they all eat their words as Pacquiao wins by KO/total beatdown and dominated them.

What we read probably isn't true; it's likely just a marketing technique to get people invested in their story. As for Inoue, he's at the top, so challengers are normal to throw trash talk at him to get noticed. But I agree with you that Nery vs. Casimero should fight first, and the winner will have a chance to face Inoue. I guess Casimero vs. Nery is also a 50/50 match, so if Casimero dominates, I think he deserves to face Inoue.

That's what I'm saying, we love to see how Nery will fare against Casimero, because they have been calling each other as far as I can remember when John Riel is still in the bantamweight class.

https://news.abs-cbn.com/sports/09/03/20/boxing-casimero-calls-out-ex-world-champ-in-instagram-spat

Hopefully, since Casimero is already in the super bamtam, this fight could be made by both camp. But Casimero should proved himself though in this weight class before he can fight either Nery or even Inoue.

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Quote from: carlisle1 on October 09, 2023, 11:13:08 PM

Tapales can use this opportunity to scout more about Inoue's fighting strategy. He needed to work more to find possible ways to beat or
to counter Inoue's power, though the winning chance probably won't change.

But giving that time to equip his fighting capabilities to stay up and a possible surviving the fight for possible decision ending.

We never know what fate will be for Tapales if both luck and good preparation will give him the winning outcome.

Tapales should avoid thinking about taking the fight to a decision because I'm absolutely certain it won't be in his favor. Inoue is known for his knockout ability, so Tapales needs to have confidence in his own power and believe that he can match Inoue's strength. This mindset will make him more aggressive and motivate him to go for the knockout. There's no chance of victory if he doesn't take that approach.

Could be, but it's very hard to go toe to toe against Inoue, Donaire uses that strategy and get caught by a huge punch and was out in 2 rounds. Fulton tries to be cautious, however he made one mistakes and that's what Inoue wanted and then gets him in the canvass and that's it. That's why it's hard to see what kind of strategy Tapales will have to do in order to win this fight.

He could go and make the fight and rough Inoue, but I don't think that fans gonna love it when we see him just hugging Inoue. So we will see what kind of strategy they will have but Tapales should have a lot of plans just in case. So it means going full 12 rounds and hopefully he can win in the judges scorecard and there's no home cook decision.

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Quote from: carlisle1 on October 09, 2023, 11:13:08 PM

Tapales can use this opportunity to scout more about Inoue's fighting strategy. He needed to work more to find possible ways to beat or
to counter Inoue's power, though the winning chance probably won't change.

But giving that time to equip his fighting capabilities to stay up and a possible surviving the fight for possible decision ending.

We never know what fate will be for Tapales if both luck and good preparation will give him the winning outcome.

Tapales should avoid thinking about taking the fight to a decision because I'm absolutely certain it won't be in his favor. Inoue is known for his knockout ability, so Tapales needs to have confidence in his own power and believe that he can match Inoue's strength. This mindset will make him more aggressive and motivate him to go for the knockout. There's no chance of victory if he doesn't take that approach.

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Arum Says Naoya Inoue-Marlon Tapales “Moving Forward” For December 26th In Japan

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The great country of Japan always stages a big boxing event during the Christmas holidays, usually on New Year’s Eve. We could still get the New Year’s Eve party, but what has been tweeted by Steve Kim is the fact that Bob Arum has informed him that it’s looking likely that the Naoya Inoue-Marlon Tapales super-bantamweight unification clash will take place in Japan on December 26th, Boxing Day! How appropriate.

If it is, then I am a bit sad. I kind of got excited that the fight would be near and now it has been moved a month more.
Japan again. Tapales would need to score big if he wants to win or he should knock Inoue down just to be sure. If their fight ends in a split decision then it might cause another ruckus about the conspiracy of an underground group in boxing that is twisting the judges' scorecards. Shit happens. It's either him or Inoue lying on the canvas or like I said score like there's no tomorrow and put a gap between him and Inoue. I am not saying they will cheat but whenever boxing events are played in a different country, magics do happen like it's Disney.

If that's true then good thing for Marlon Tapales lol. He will have a much longer time for the preparation.

Besides it's just a month away from the original date. It's alright mate. Tapales needs more time to prepare for the monster.

I hope this extension will able to improve Tapales more. On the other hand, the extension also gives Inoue more time to prepare.

Tapales can use this opportunity to scout more about Inoue's fighting strategy. He needed to work more to find possible ways to beat or
to counter Inoue's power, though the winning chance probably won't change.

But giving that time to equip his fighting capabilities to stay up and a possible surviving the fight for possible decision ending.

We never know what fate will be for Tapales if both luck and good preparation will give him the winning outcome.

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Quote from: Japinat on October 07, 2023, 11:00:00 PM

Quote from: bbc.reporter on October 07, 2023, 09:32:11 PM

Quote from: Baofeng on October 03, 2023, 09:06:38 AM

For those who are waiting some updates on the fight, it says that it could be around Mid December,

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“One week of intense training has ended,” Inoue stated in a post, accompanied by a photo sporting a chiseled physique alongside his team members. “I had a good training session and am ready to switch on for December.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/inoue-one-week-intense-training-ended-ready-switch-on-december--178188

So it's good to hear that this fight is still a go. Because there have been some doubts earlier, regarding the purse split and that the camp of Tapales didn't accept the offer. So maybe there is some stipulations on the contract and most likely the Tapales camp has agreed in terms.

What would be these stipulations? I speculate that it will depend on the event's sales and revenue. If it is more than what the have expected, they might give more money for Tapales' purse. I reckon Tapales should also gamble on himself that the organizers should add money in his purse if the fight ended over 10.5 rounds or reduce the money if under hehe.

Tapales might be underestimated for this fight. I am not predicting that he will be victorious, however, this fight might become similar to Naoya vs. Nonito 1.

When it comes to the purse, I doubt they'll spill the beans publicly, but I'm thinking it'll be fair for Tapales once this fight gets the green light. Now, hoping for this fight to be like Inoue vs. Donaire 1? Well, I'm not so sure. Inoue and Tapales, they've got their own unique styles in the boxing game, and their confidence levels, well, they're on different wavelengths.

I mean, Donaire was a superstar in his own right, reigning in the bantamweight division before Inoue handed him that tough loss. So, expecting a replay of that epic showdown might be a bit of a stretch.

However, Tapales caused an upset by winning the other 2 super bantamweight championships by split decision vs. the undefeated boxer from Uzbekistan. I reckon fans might have their heads shaking after the fight hehehe. Also, everyone knows already that Naoya Inoue is the favorite, however, I am only implying that Tapales should not be underestimated.

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Quote from: Kemarit on October 09, 2023, 08:05:58 AM

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Anyway, I want Casimero to get the winner of Inoue-Tapales since the Nery fight is too risky unless it's a title eliminator which guarantees the winner a title fight. And the fight should not happen in Mexico. Casimero-Nery would be a guaranteed war and it could be 50/50 or something close.

Yes, we wanted the winner facing Casimero next, assuming the John Riel winning against Oguni. But it make sense as well to see Casimero vs Nery going for a like title eliminator as you have said, winner facing Inoue. And I like that fight because as you have describe it, going to be war and who will see if Nery can handle the power of Inoue at 122 lbs.

Casimero is expected to win over Oguni anyway. It'll be a shame if Casimero will have a hard time beating Oguni who's already inactive. So who do you think becomes the favorite if in case a Casimero-Nery happens in the US? I slightly favor Nery since he is the more proven fighter in this division and he is still in his late 20s while Casimero is already in his mid-30s.

But I just want Casimero to not enter into deals after the Oguni fight and wait for the outcome of the Inoue-Tapales which is expected this coming December 26. I also expect both Casimero and Nery available after the Inoue-Tapales bout since the Japanese might pick either of them in his next return. So it might be hard to make a Casimero-Nery this time until Inoue decides who is next after Tapales provided he becomes undisputed.

I really have the feeling that Inoue might move up after a single defense of his undisputed championships. The timing is just too perfect for a move to 126 late next year considering that its current champions are beatable and are easy to negotiate if the plan is to once again unify all the 4 belts.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on October 09, 2023, 07:38:30 AM

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And most likely that's why we wanted to see first if Nery can win against Casimero before going to Inoue. This two are well known trash talkers so it will be a great and interesting fight. Both of them are power punchers, so they are proud and wanted to knock each other out. And so I'm not surprised on what you describe on Nery.

Maybe have tried to undermined the Japanese and I think we do see it before. Just like in the case of Manny Pacquiao wherein guys like Ricky Hatton, Oscar Dela Hoya, Margarito or even Miguel Cotto doesn't consider Manny the monster that time, but they all eat their words as Pacquiao wins by KO/total beatdown and dominated them.

What we read probably isn't true; it's likely just a marketing technique to get people invested in their story. As for Inoue, he's at the top, so challengers are normal to throw trash talk at him to get noticed. But I agree with you that Nery vs. Casimero should fight first, and the winner will have a chance to face Inoue. I guess Casimero vs. Nery is also a 50/50 match, so if Casimero dominates, I think he deserves to face Inoue.

Agree. Fighters wanted attention so many of them resorted to trash-talking with some of them even tried to act like they were underestimating the guy but they knew the real situation. Pacquiao was actually the betting favorite over Hatton, Margo, and Cotto so those guys knew they were in for a hell of a night. It's just that Margo has a big mouth so he tried to act in front of the media that Pacman will lose. Only the De La Hoya fight where Pacquiao became a huge underdog since he moved up 3 divisions in less than a year which was crazy.

I think it's more of this fighters or their trainers underestimating Manny Pacquiao. They also said that he has the left hand. But Hatton was knockdown successively in that fight with a right now and then the left finished him off. Dela Hoya thinks that his height does matter, but he was already shot when he fought Manny and can't pull the trigger anymore as per Freddie Coach. While Margo, took the worst beating of them all, he as so macho personified that he thinks he can just uses his height and weight advantage, the bigger guy. But Manny was too fast for him that he might have regretted his decision to continue because his face was reconstructed. The good thing though is that after years of the fight, he think that Manny was no in way using any performance enhancing drug, when being ask by one Mexican reporter.

Quote from: inthelongrun on October 09, 2023, 07:38:30 AM

Anyway, I want Casimero to get the winner of Inoue-Tapales since the Nery fight is too risky unless it's a title eliminator which guarantees the winner a title fight. And the fight should not happen in Mexico. Casimero-Nery would be a guaranteed war and it could be 50/50 or something close.

Yes, we wanted the winner facing Casimero next, assuming the John Riel winning against Oguni. But it make sense as well to see Casimero vs Nery going for a like title eliminator as you have said, winner facing Inoue. And I like that fight because as you have describe it, going to be war and who will see if Nery can handle the power of Inoue at 122 lbs.

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And most likely that's why we wanted to see first if Nery can win against Casimero before going to Inoue. This two are well known trash talkers so it will be a great and interesting fight. Both of them are power punchers, so they are proud and wanted to knock each other out. And so I'm not surprised on what you describe on Nery.

Maybe have tried to undermined the Japanese and I think we do see it before. Just like in the case of Manny Pacquiao wherein guys like Ricky Hatton, Oscar Dela Hoya, Margarito or even Miguel Cotto doesn't consider Manny the monster that time, but they all eat their words as Pacquiao wins by KO/total beatdown and dominated them.

What we read probably isn't true; it's likely just a marketing technique to get people invested in their story. As for Inoue, he's at the top, so challengers are normal to throw trash talk at him to get noticed. But I agree with you that Nery vs. Casimero should fight first, and the winner will have a chance to face Inoue. I guess Casimero vs. Nery is also a 50/50 match, so if Casimero dominates, I think he deserves to face Inoue.

Agree. Fighters wanted attention so many of them resorted to trash-talking with some of them even tried to act like they were underestimating the guy but they knew the real situation. Pacquiao was actually the betting favorite over Hatton, Margo, and Cotto so those guys knew they were in for a hell of a night. It's just that Margo has a big mouth so he tried to act in front of the media that Pacman will lose. Only the De La Hoya fight where Pacquiao became a huge underdog since he moved up 3 divisions in less than a year which was crazy.

Anyway, I want Casimero to get the winner of Inoue-Tapales since the Nery fight is too risky unless it's a title eliminator which guarantees the winner a title fight. And the fight should not happen in Mexico. Casimero-Nery would be a guaranteed war and it could be 50/50 or something close.

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Meanwhile, Steve Kim talked to Bob Arum and it's said that the fight is looking forward this December 26 in Japan once again. So it seems like American money is once again beaten by the Japanese sponsors in trying to bring this undisputed fight to Inoue's home. But at least things are clearer now that this fight will happen. But it's not too late yet for ESPN and its partners to bid more money in order to bring this fight to America.

This venue's a bit of a snoozer, right? Hehe, sorry for being blunt. I think this whole thing should go down on neutral ground. I mean, we're talking about two champions here, it's an undisputed fight, so there shouldn't be any home court advantage. Bringing it over to the US would be a win for boxing – big money's up for grabs there. Not only will the arena be packed, but their PPV subscriptions would shoot through the roof. Let's hope they see the potential in that.

Yeah, we even don't know if we can watch the fight live or it someone from Japan will stream the fight live so that we can all watch it happen. Again, Inoue doesn't want to get out of his comfort zone and just choices to play in Japan. Wherein he had generated the buzz already, Mike Tyson is talking about him, there are boxing fans says that he can go as high as 135 lbs and fight Tank Davis.

So there's already a lot of hype on him. But if he keep on fighting in his hometown, then he will not make enough money though. Still the mecca of boxing is in the US and he could easily generation millions there, as he will be the A-side so he could dictate the terms and then there is PPV numbers or even the live gates. It will be enough for him to just go out and fight one time in the US and making a lot of money.

They never really spilled the beans on how much they raked in from those fights in Japan, so we're left in the dark about their earnings. But I'm guessing it's nowhere near what those fighters in the US, especially the big-name ones, pull in. Speaking of a big payday, the last fight that comes to mind is Tank Davis versus Ryan Garcia. So, if Inoue's thinking ahead, he might want to set his sights on that, because a bout with Tank Davis would definitely bring in some serious cash. Plus, it could be the payday of a lifetime for Inoue. And let's not forget, he'd also have a shot at claiming a championship title and showing the world he's got the upper hand over Tank.

Quote from: Hirose UK on October 08, 2023, 02:27:23 AM

This is quite sensational fight and of course with fight that brings together two world champion fighters it can generate interest for everyone to come to the arena to watch it live whether in the US or in Japan all the same there will be huge flow of money from even from sales tickets to enter the arena will definitely be filled long before the match actually takes place.

But it true that if the fight takes place in Japan then Inoue will be given more significant advantage but it doesn't seem fair to Tapales if uses Japan for the next fight.

Let's keep it real here—although they're both champions, it's Inoue who's the big name. Tapales isn't even well-known worldwide, while Inoue is currently sitting at the top 2 spot in the pound-for-pound list. We can't say for sure if they'll set the fight in Japan, but if that's the case, we're pretty much at their mercy. However, I'm willing to bet that once Inoue moves up, his journey won't be a walk in the park, and he might even be pushed into fighting in the US.

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Quote from: danherbias07 on October 08, 2023, 06:28:16 PM

Is this true? Cry

https://www.boxing247.com/boxing-news/naoya-inoue-marlon-tapales/269394
Arum Says Naoya Inoue-Marlon Tapales “Moving Forward” For December 26th In Japan

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The great country of Japan always stages a big boxing event during the Christmas holidays, usually on New Year’s Eve. We could still get the New Year’s Eve party, but what has been tweeted by Steve Kim is the fact that Bob Arum has informed him that it’s looking likely that the Naoya Inoue-Marlon Tapales super-bantamweight unification clash will take place in Japan on December 26th, Boxing Day! How appropriate.

If it is, then I am a bit sad. I kind of got excited that the fight would be near and now it has been moved a month more.
Japan again. Tapales would need to score big if he wants to win or he should knock Inoue down just to be sure. If their fight ends in a split decision then it might cause another ruckus about the conspiracy of an underground group in boxing that is twisting the judges' scorecards. Shit happens. It's either him or Inoue lying on the canvas or like I said score like there's no tomorrow and put a gap between him and Inoue. I am not saying they will cheat but whenever boxing events are played in a different country, magics do happen like it's Disney.

This has been confirmed. And yes, there have been rumors circulating about that there is indeed an underground group in boxing pushing forth their agenda of favoring Japanese boxers over foreigners. But still, Inoue has proven time and again that he doesn't need any of these groups' support, as he can carry himself effortlessly and win fights in a very convincing fashion. It will take a knockout for Tapales to win this bout, and prove that he can go toe to toe with the current best in his division.

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Quote from: cryptomaniac_xxx on October 08, 2023, 10:27:10 PM

And most likely that's why we wanted to see first if Nery can win against Casimero before going to Inoue. This two are well known trash talkers so it will be a great and interesting fight. Both of them are power punchers, so they are proud and wanted to knock each other out. And so I'm not surprised on what you describe on Nery.

Maybe have tried to undermined the Japanese and I think we do see it before. Just like in the case of Manny Pacquiao wherein guys like Ricky Hatton, Oscar Dela Hoya, Margarito or even Miguel Cotto doesn't consider Manny the monster that time, but they all eat their words as Pacquiao wins by KO/total beatdown and dominated them.

What we read probably isn't true; it's likely just a marketing technique to get people invested in their story. As for Inoue, he's at the top, so challengers are normal to throw trash talk at him to get noticed. But I agree with you that Nery vs. Casimero should fight first, and the winner will have a chance to face Inoue. I guess Casimero vs. Nery is also a 50/50 match, so if Casimero dominates, I think he deserves to face Inoue.

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