Topic: [Boxing] Inoue vs Tapales for Unified Super Bantamweight Title - December 26 - page 20. (Read 5338 times)

^^ It will be huge if suddenly Inoue decided to fight Casimero instead of unifying all the belts against Tapales. However, it will really be a big reason for Inoue to go for Casimero first. There should be somewhat that evoke Inoue, maybe he just want to shut the mouth of Casimero for good or just let Tapales fight for the mandatory first and then see how it goes for Marlon. And then after he disposed of John Riel then they will go after Tapales next. But let's see, I'm also on the side of Inoue vs Tapales happening maybe November-December, or at least this year and then Inoue unifying the belts in the bantamweight/super bantamweight in the modern era so that is another history for the Japanese.

Imagine if Casimero is getting the Inoue fight next and not Tapales. It is also possible that Casimero will be available right away this December or January next year since Oguni is only a light tune-up that should be disposed of quickly or at least an easy decision without suffering big injuries.

But I am also confident that both Inoue and Tapales will come to terms and will fight this December. Maybe Inoue's camp is just trying to tell the public that they will stay at 122 for long so Tapales will agree to their offer. I really have the feeling that Inoue will only want the undisputed crown at 122 then make 1 or 2 title defenses before moving up again at 126 for additional legacy to his legendary career.

The Casimero had their own unique style of the game,Tapales had not enough now to win the game with their own strategy.In the boxing community,the gambler opinion will be the point the History repeat again in your life.Some people opinion will be Tapales,but it’s easy to win in the past.If the game was quit before the game,your money may be safe.Because the Casemiro will be the option of the gambler to get good money from the betting.Many betting was made now on the Casemiro as compared to the Tapales because of the potential game by the Casemiro.Even though Tapales had two belts,now the Casemiro had the good potential today game.

If there's a problem with the negotiation between Inoue and Tapales, it might result in an early fight with Casimero. If Inoue considers Casimero as an opponent, in terms of selling the fight, I think it's easy to promote the fight with Casimero since he was once a champion and is very popular as a boxer, although not as popular as Inoue. You know, in boxing, it's always the money that comes first; it's a business. So, if they agree on the price, anything could happen.

Yeah, we will have to just trust Sean Gibbons on the negotiation table, as much as we hated him because of some failed fight like when they still handle Casimero back then. But that was history already and they have parted ways.

But I do agree that Tapales has something to offer as well, he had 2 belts and Inoue needed it to become a unified champion. If they low ball Tapales and then the fight is not going to happen, then it will be a waiting game for Inoue. Maybe Tapales will go and give Akhmadaliev or choose a different path. Inoue's camp should be the A-side but they should respect Marlon as well and give him at least a decent paycheck for being a champion.

My instinct tells me that this fight will push through, it is just a matter of how much they add to their offer to Marlon Tapales. Sean Gibbons is very good at that negotiation so there is no reason why this fight won't come to fruition and in fact Marlon Tapales was already in the US busy preparing for this fight that is most likely to happen this end of the year.

Both have aces in their negotiations. Both have equal 2 belts as well so it'll be interesting to see who dictates more on the conditions. Inoue wants to become undisputed so Tapales could demand a good amount of money especially if the fight happens in Japan. On the other hand, if Tapales doesn't agree with the offers from Inoue and completely rejects a unification fight, he will face an IBF mandatory and there's also the coming WBA eliminator which the winner will be ready by the time the IBF mandatory is done. Both the IBF and WBA mandatories are pretty sure tough fights for Tapales and he may even become an underdog while the money is nowhere near the level if he is fighting Inoue.

And if it is true that Inoue stays at 122 for a while, he can also tell Tapales that he will just wait for the winner of his upcoming mandatories since it is most likely that they are all willing to fight Inoue because he is the biggest cash cow in the division plus it'll be for the undisputed championship. Maybe Tapales can also say that he will vacate 1 of his belts so Inoue will be forced to face 2 champions instead of just 1 more fight to become undisputed. Anyway, hope both Inoue and Tapales will settle their differences so we can see another undisputed fight this year.

The fans are a major help in bringing attention to the promoters. I believe the promoters already know the potential of the fight, how big it is. Maybe Inoue is just trying to weigh things, as he has a lot to lose in case he falls short against Casimero. We continue to speculate for now. Both of them have fights that they need to attend to, but when both fights are concluded, and they both win, I think that's the right time for the fans to keep hyping the match. This way, Inoue's camp would be forced to activate this highly anticipated fight.

I don't think money is the most important factor in activating the rematch. From the very beginning, they already negotiated, and Tapales already agreed to the terms. So if Tapales loses, I'm not sure if he will have the same share as in the first fight. For me, a rematch would only be activated if he is not convinced with the decision of the judges or if it's a close fight, and he thinks he can beat Inoue.


Let's speculate based on the outcome of the first fight. Right now, we should focus on the news of the upcoming fight as it's already confirmed.

Depending on how both camps will negotiate, I also think that Tapales camp can activate that rematch clause as a defending champion
he can ask for it especially if he's not satisfied with the money.

Since Inoue is seeking to unify all the belts, Tapales can demand things that may let Inoue agree, without Tapales having the desire to unify all the
belts won't be possible.

We can't tell what the future will be for both champs and how they will end this possible fight.

I don't think Naoya Inoue is interested in putting a rematch clause in his contract with Tapales. But Tapales can ask for it if he is not getting the money he wants. But technically it is hard to include a rematch clause in their fight since there are mandatories coming up soon. The IBF already has a mandatory waiting, the WBA has an upcoming eliminator fight and the WBC already had a partial eliminator but it could become mandatory depending on the situation.

I am curious about what made Inoue obviously scared of Casimero. Inoue wanted to become undisputed at 118 so he fought all 4 champions 1 by 1. Now he also wants to become an undisputed at 122. Inoue is busy fighting champions for his legacy while Casimero is busy fighting nobodies mate.

The fight will probably happen because, in the end, boxing is entertainment, and fans want to see an exciting match. The more fighters try to make it happen, the better. I believe Casimero's camp has no problem with that, but Inoue should also be willing to take some risks if he considers Casimero a tough challenger.

If this fight doesn't happen, it's like fans are being robbed of a great spectacle.



We have our champion here, Tapales, and yet we don't believe he could beat Inoue. Instead, we think Casimero, who isn't even ranked highly, might give Inoue some significant trouble.

The fans are waiting and I think the hype is still there. So if this fight will push through, many fans of these boxers will be delighted that finally it will going to happen. Thus, hope they consider before the monster move up in division.

There's always a possibility for this scenario to happen. But if we think of what might be the realistic outcome of this fight, upset is unlikely knowing how good the monster is. That's why he is also confident to win and unified the title though still, this is not official yet.

As I have said, i read it from a Twitter account, I'll try to get back and see which account it is. But regardless though, do you think that it's logical for Inoue to face this boxer if he decided to stay at this division? Tapales could be not in his radar initially, but since he upset Akhmadaliev then it makes sense for Inoue to go after him and they have a supposedly fight this November (but no official word yet).

For the others, Casimero is improving his rank in the super bantamweight and many fans wanted to see if he can test Inoue because that's what he claim. And then Luis Nery, although ban in Japan, is still a good fighter in this division. And then the man that Tapales beat, Akhmadaliev, is for me another great boxer that Inoue can fight before to the Featherweight division.

It's likely that there's a rematch clause since both are champions, and I'm pretty sure Inoue would make sure he would have the option of a rematch in case an upset happened. However, I wouldn't think of a possible upset, and I don't think Tapales' camp will activate that rematch if Inoue has a clear dominant win in this fight.

Promoters will be happy to arrange that specific fight as it would certainly sell to the crowd. However, I have a feeling that the camp of Inoue might be a little concerned about their future due to the risk of losing to Casimero. Whether they will admit it or not, it's very obvious that they are not 100% confident that their monster boxer will win.

I guess he will have accomplished the win first from Tapales and unify all the belts. Then plan his stay for another exciting matchup
unless Tapales will activate the rematch claw (not sure though if that's possible)

Inoue's camp provided a statement to continue the hype and to check if how fans will engaged especially those who wanted to see the potential
of giving Casimero his chance to be inside the ring against "The Monster"

All depends on how promoters will take it and how fans will react and push for whoever the next in line after Tapales.

If he could beat Tapales, there's a huge chance it will happen, but fighting Casimero, who is a champion, is a little questionable, as Inoue had a chance before but didn't activate the fight. If we still remember, they were supposed to face each other before the pandemic, but that fight was supposed to be moved. What happened is it was canceled. That's why you can't blame people for asking for this fight, especially the fans of Casimero.

Yes, Casimero has a loud mouth, but I believe he didn't act like that before. He probably got frustrated about why Inoue didn't fight him, and he may just want to see that fight happening. The only way he believes it would happen is if he continues to taunt Inoue.

As this point yes, maybe Inoue is not keen on fighting Casimero because John Riel doesn't have the belt.
But he could view Casimero as a good challenger as well, so why not fight him and defeated that big mouth Filipino?
So still up to him, if he can beat Tapales and he had what it says a hit list and Casimero is one of them then maybe we might see them in the ring.
But Casimero is not getting any younger though, so not sure if there will be enough time for them to cross path in the future.

Inoue won't see a point in fighting Casimero since he is up to get more belts. Casimero is nothing to him and may not want anything to do with him unless he has a belt. Casimero is not like Pacman with a huge fan base in the US or Japan. If Arum has to look at how to make money out of this match, he'll have a hard time breaking even.

Lets say Casimero can definitely defeat Inoue, so why would Arum want that to happen when Inoue is his best money maker?

There is to be afraid of because they know that Casimero can compete well against Inoue. If the fight happens, I'm sure it's going to be a championship bout, and Inoue will be putting his belt on the line. Imagine if Casimero wins; that would mean Inoue is no longer a champion and undefeated. Inoue might probably include a rematch clause to redeem himself, but what if Casimero beats him again? That could significantly impact Inoue's future, and people might stop talking about him. Currently, he is a very hyped fighter because of his achievements, so it gives a good opportunity for Casimero if this fight will materialize.