Topic: [Boxing] Inoue vs Tapales for Unified Super Bantamweight Title - December 26 - page 23. (Read 5338 times)

In terms of career hype, unifying all the belts will be the focused for Inoue as he really wanted to continue excelling in this sport, though it's sweeter if Taples will upset him since everyone or most expect that it's Inoue that will win this fight.

With your statement, equal opportunity as they will be given that chance to beat one another,
but stats wise and winning chance by favorite all the way for Inoue.

Both fighters have an equal opportunity in this bout, but if Inoue were to lose, it could have a significant impact on his future. He may find it challenging to continue moving up in the ranks, as his perceived strength might not hold up. The pressure on Inoue is quite high, with the world cheering for him, so winning this fight is crucial for him.

Inoue would definitely be coming after with those 2 belts which is held by Tapales which there's no doubt on which having that unified champion on said or current division is much more appealing or achievement rather than on getting some fight with Casimero. I dont know on why some people do say that Inoue is really that afraid with Casimero? i dont think so because in just seeing about Casimeros capability in against with Inoue then whats the reason on why Inoue would really be scared of him? He could really make a good damn lesson teaching to Casimero i should say.

When it comes to power then there's no doubt for Casimero but when it comes to footsteps and rythym and defense then Inoue is really that too far off which it is really a great
advantage against with Casimero which is really that flat-footed. LOL!

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Going back into the topic about against Tapales, then it would really be a good opportunity for Tapales on hitting two birds on one stone. #1 he would be a unified champion #2 he do able to beat up
the unbeatable monster which its a record that would really be that worth.

Well right now both of them are in the super batam class weighing 122lbs but previously Casimero was only in the 118lbs batam class and when Casimero wanted to challenge Inoue always avoided the fight and moved up to the super batam class then Casimero followed and returned to give the fighting challenge he had given to Inoue before.

The WBO and WBC super classes are currently held by Inoue and Casimero the WBC is ranked 7th and the WBO is ranked 3rd and if Inoue later accepts Casimero challenge perhaps one of these titles could be taken over by Casimero.
But from several rumors circulating it seems that Inoue will be hesitant to accept the challenge from Casimero because he has the desire to unite 4 titles in one Batam super class where two titles are held by Marlon Tapales.

Indeed, if we follow the journeys of both boxers, we won't be misled. Anyway, I just watched a YouTube video regarding three boxers who sparred against Inoue. Two of them are Japanese, both of whom Casimero has already beaten, and one is Filipino. All of them believe that Casimero has a good chance of defeating Inoue. They mentioned that Casimero may appear slow, but that's part of his strategy because he is very accurate and has excellent timing. They also believe that Casimero's power punches are more dangerous than Inoue's. Actually, I'm quite convinced, and I also think it's one of the reasons why Inoue hasn't fought Casimero until now.

Casimero doesn't need to increase his weight to face Inoue because they are currently in the same division.

You can check the list of boxers and their respective rankings; the boxers we are discussing belong to the super bantamweight division.

look here:
https://www.boxingscene.com/rankings

That can clearly happen and has been made possible by Inoue because he is boxer who has quite good endurance and currently he has a record that is quite epic so that some fighters might be hesitant about challenging Inoue to fight for his belt.

If Casimero wins the fight he tomorrow is indeed worthy to challenge Inoue but if Inoue who as a champion who holds several belts, refuses the challenge from Casimero there will be many rumors circulating saying that Inoue is afraid of Casimero taking his belt.
Both of them are boxers with quite a lot of wins and have even managed to become one of the best boxers for the WBA and WBC in their respective classes.
The world will really be waiting for confirmation about their meeting in the octagon.

This opportunity clearly exists and we just have to wait for the time to come because Casimero is really confident and can't wait to challenge Inoue and Casimero confidence is also influenced by his readiness to increase his weight to be able to meet Inoue in his class.
In fact Casimero had harbored the desire to fight Inoue for a long time, but Inoue actually moved up in class first before Casimero gave his challenge.

The bookies do whatever can make them make more money and the Inoue vs Casimero fight can give the bookies what they want, after all Casimero is not as bad as you say.

He cannot rely on luck twice. If he thinks luck is what he needs to win against Inoue, then that's a mistaken belief. Inoue is a different fighter, perhaps not on the same level as Tapales. However, I'm not saying Tapales has no chance of beating Inoue, but let's be realistic here. I'm sure everyone would agree that Tapales has a very slim chance of winning.

As you said, it's just pure luck for Tapales to win this fight because of his lack of experience and skills when fighting such kind of fighter and the thing is, even some of his fellow countrymen don't even believe he could win the fight, that's the worse scenario he could ever have fighting Inoue. But he can use it as fuel and motivation in order to train intensely and surpass all of their speculations and expectations.

Yes, Inoue is far different but we never know till we see them both fighting inside the ring, maybe another luck will happen for Tapales.

Or it will be all the way for Inoue, as we know him each time he fought. He is always on the safe side and always
analysing his opponents before dealing on it and make his move, he understands well when he already
taste his opponent's punches, then he will start from there.

We always love to see upset happen, just like when he beat Akhmadaliev, it was one of the biggest upset that we have. But as you have said, it's very different if you are going to face the monster Naoya Inoue.

He is very much in his prime years, very fast, strong, good chin and have the discipline that's why he became a unified champion in bantamweight and I cant' recall who is the last man who did it in that division. So Tapales really have a big plate in front of him, and as much as we like to see him win, let's admit it, he can't pull a Akhmadaliev here.

Reality speaking that was true and PH boxing fans should accept that.

If Marlon Tapales able to upset Akhmadaliev, I don't see how he can repeat that against Naoya Inoue who is far more dangerous than Akhmadaliev and just recently beat out the other champion at the 122 lbs division, Stephen Fulton who is thought better as a boxer compare to Akhmadaliev.

Tapales being a title holder is a good achievement now but unfortunately, he's at the same time as the prime Inoue. I want Tapales to win I admit that, but I truly recognize how strong Inoue is. I don't see Inoue do have a better match here at 122. Maybe Casimero but it's like it will take more years to come before we see that happened and Casimero is now reaching his Father time.

This is a very good observation.  The stated information is also the reason why I think Tapales won't stand a chance against Inoue.  Tapales just got lucky in winning those two belts and I believe his fight against Akhmadaliev is still controversial and may go either way.

I can't say that Tapales is underrated when compared to Inoue. I have watched the performance of Tapales and they are not that explosive as Inoue.  There is a huge difference between the ability of these two fighters and Inoue without any hesitation is the better of the two so it would really surprise me if Tapales will come out victorious in their upcoming fight.

Casimero is a disciplined boxer. If not, he won't achieve being a dominant boxer. The problem is his attitude and being cocky. His weight problem is not because he's not disciplined but rather his body is just naturally growing and not fit anymore and capable of fighting at 118.

But let's talk about Tapales for now as this is his thread lol. Tapales is also a disciplined boxer and one of the best achievements he has currently is upsetting the previous champion in the 122 lbs division Murodjon Akhmadaliev. But in that fight, he seemed showing struggle too although in the end, he got the win.

Since we speak about being a disciplined boxer, Naoya Inoue tops these 2 PH boxers mentioned. He's so disciplined at everything that's why he reaches the status of being called a monster. Quickness, speed, agility, strength, boxing IQ - all of these traits are all on Inoue that's why he is hard to beat toe-to-toe. No offense to PH boxing fans but Inoue does have the advantages if he faces either Casimero or Tapales.

No doubt that Inoue will earn the favorite, as per records. Inoue is the current champ and the way Inoue finished the fight
that's something that value how bookies will place the odd if the fight takes place.

I agree on the part where Casimero has an issue with discipline, and that characteristic is very important when it comes to this sport.

Without proper discipline even you have the chance there's always a good edge with your opponent to take you
from where you are not being prepared.

but in any case there is a chance for casimero to fight inoue, i am on the side that bookies will favour inoue when it comes to odds. casimero i believe has problem with discipline. so i also doubt if such match will ever happen
casimero's fans are aiming this match long time ago, however, casimero is doing something that is not leading to this match. so this is not a loss from inoue but casimero's.

Yeah, it's really a big test for Inoue to jump to super bantamweight and challenge it's best champion in Stephen Fulton. It's a big risk, big reward for them, but in the end the reward was for Inoue to get Fulton's 2 belt and now gunning for the last 2 and unified it against Marlon Tapales. Which we can say it is much easier than the Fulton fight.


We have been wanting to see this fight, Casimero-Inoue, but I guess it's better at 118 lbs for me as the chances of Casimero might still be good. But as this point of Inoue's career and his prime, I doubt that even the hard hitting Casimero can defeat Inoue.

Not several years, Naoya Inoue just became a 2-belt champion at 122 this year and Steph Fulton was his first opponent on his debut at the mentioned weight class. We can remember that Bob Arum was quite scared about the idea of challenging the champion directly instead of testing the water first but he trusted Inoue's guts that he can still make a difference in this weight class, and indeed, Inoue made it happen.

As for the speculations for the Casimero-Inoue fight, I know what you mean because I'm also hoping for the same thing but at this rate, we cannot really say that Inoue will take his time to fight Casimero because he also got his own goals.

I don't know why people are still talking about Nery fight against Inoue because of the many opportunities that exist Casimero is the one who has the biggest chance to challenge Inoue and fight for the title that he has held for several years.
If the upcoming fight between Inoue and Casimero is truly presented it will be of particular interest to all boxing fans even to bettors who spend their money on the fight and the division can definitely be agreed more easily because Casimero is not really looking for money but it more of a title fight that he wants.

But let see who is worthy and entitled to challenge Inoue the champion with the nickname monster and what we really hope is that Casimero can face Inoue.

And as long as Inoue is willing to fight him, but perhaps him being a Japanese, will have to follow what the Japanese boxing committee has ruled, that Nery uses a ban substance and this is a form of cheating.

Perhaps Inoue might no longer trust his opponent because of this and might not fight him, this is just my speculation only. So I wouldn't be surprised that there will be no fight for Nery here, unfortunately, but we will see what will be the decision of Inoue's camp.