Topic: [Boxing] Inoue vs Tapales for Unified Super Bantamweight Title - December 26 - page 24. (Read 5338 times)

Obviously, Inoue will receive the bigger split as he is the champion and, not only that, he is the more popular fighter. I'm sure Nery's camp would not disagree with that because if they truly want to rise to the top, they need to defeat Inoue, who currently appears unbeatable. This fight could be arranged if both parties are willing, and being banned in Japan isn't a significant issue, as there are other countries willing to host them.

It all depends on the negotiations, maybe Casimero will travel to England but he will get the most money on the purse split. But as far as Nery to fight Inoue, it's easy, then they need to go to a neutral country like USA wherein fans are waiting for Inoue as they want to see him fight again.

So it's going to be on the promoter shoulder on how they are going to manage expectations if ever Nery become the mandatory fighter on any belt that Inoue has. And if they settle then good for us fans.

Well, promoters surely know what would be the best things to do on that part. These guys have been in the business for a long and they already face several problems before making it somehow "easy" for them to organize a fight even if there are flaws as long as the "price is right".

You are correct that a champion can't dictate where the fight should take place that's why specifically for all of Inoue's fights, I don't know why others hate him for not getting out of his comfort zone where in the end, it's on the promotional side why the venue is always in Japan on most of the "The Monster's" fight.

Again, if someone wants to pulverize Inoue, the venue shouldn't be a big deal. It's even more thrilling to beat Inoue in front of his countrymen.

Yes, you are right. If the organization will ask for it then both camps will need to comply,
Inoue's camp might have the edge to look or demand for the place.

Knowing how big the influence of Arum, he will see the possibilities, or maybe Inoue will jump again to another division to
avoid fighting outside his country.

Though still soon for this as there's still upcoming fight and there's no deal that will demand for this potential fight.

Good point, we can use Casimero as an example. If you still remember, he was stripped of his belt in the bantamweight division when he got disqualified for violating the rules. He was the champion at that time, but he was the one who went to Butler's country, who was the mandatory challenger. So, a similar situation could also occur in the Inoue vs. Nery fight, where the fight may not be scheduled in Japan due to Nery being banned in that country.

I don't think it should work that way. If the organization makes it a mandatory fight for the champion, they need to recognize that Nery is banned in Japan. Therefore, they should choose a location where both fighters can compete freely. I believe there are no rules stating that the champion should dictate where the fight should take place. It's a mandatory fight, which means the fight must happen.

That's the problem: he is the top contender, but due to that, he won't be able to challenge Inoue if the fight is held in Japan. Based on what has happened in the past, most of Inoue's championship fights are held in Japan. So, I'm not sure if it's possible for Nery to become a mandatory challenger. I think it would be best if Casimero vs. Nery were to happen, and then the winner would become a mandatory opponent for Inoue.

If Casimero wins, it will help him achieve his dream of fighting Inoue. If Inoue can still defend his title, there's no doubt he will gain the respect of some Filipino fans, as some are currently thinking that Inoue is afraid to face Casimero.

I like a man who has a plan and follows the plan to the T. I believe Inoue is that kind of a fighter. He knows what he is good at and he also knows that it is going to be enough for him to beat his opponent. He definitely believes that if his opponent tries to play his own game with him, he(Inoue) is going to be the winner in that stand-off. He really trusts his ability of fighting. And let's be honest, his ability of understanding what to do is great. His sense of fighting and timing is incredible. That's why he is making so much noise at this moment. And almost any fighter is going to want to fight against him.

Casimero vs Nery? that will be huge fight at 122 lbs, but yeah, I'm just wondering why the fight hasn't happen yet when this two has been calling each other out for many years, when Casimero is still at 118 lbs he always mentioned the name of Nery.

Same with Nery though, if I'm not mistaken, in his last win, he calls out Casimero.

Nevertheless, a Inoue vs Nery is also a good option, but I don't know, I read that Nery can't fight in Japan.

https://www.ringtv.com/530936-japan-boxing-commission-bans-luis-nery-life/

When it comes to Casimero and Inoue, for me there is no doubt here, Inoue is the one with the best preparation, there is no other, for me Oinoue is that he has a great capacity to do things better, that is what I consider For me the best for now is Inoue, I think that things when it comes to making a great understanding, well INoue comes out there, Casiero does have his style, his way of training but I think he is not close to what Inoue does, because I think the Japanese trains every day and with great intensity, if he has one day a week off, I imagine it will be only one day after total rest, but I think the rhythm that Inoue has is very strong, that's why it's that in every fight he dominates her, he has a lot to show all the time, I have never seen INoue push himself too hard in a fight, I think things can be put in context because he is a boxer who always makes a difference, and This is not just what I say, I think everyone thinks the same about him, I know that Casimero is very good , I had Already said that He is a boxer who is very dangerous to fall into his combinations because they are obviously quite strong when he is in the punch So this has a lot to do with his style, but I think Inoue has a special sense for these things, he studies his opponent in detail, he learns every move, how he moves and everything, I think this is something that helps a lot and he takes Advantage of it.

For me, Inoue has the natural talent to do good boxing ,apart from this because I think he can make the difference when it comes to how to put things in his favor when he is having a bad time, he only exhausts his fighting clan , never I have seen that he changes strategies, he only Stands in the Ring with his way of fighting, with his plan and follows it to the letter, in fact he is a boxer who manages his times, and he manages his rival's times, to To get to that level you just need to be very strong and have high stamina, and stamina is something that is only Easy to achieve..

I think even if Casimero is older, he can still fight though and that's why he still wanted to have the change to fight Inoue even in the next couple of years. But for now, Marlon Tapales, another Filipino has the chance to do that since he has 2 belts that Inoue wanted.

So let Casimero fight and earn his right to face Inoue in the future. And as we have said, if he has some impressive wins just like before at bantamweight, then maybe we could see him and Inoue fight. But for now, Inoue is too good already and I don't think that Casimero can catch him up.

Yes you are right that mate casimeronisngettiny older and older day by day and chasing inoue to become and opponent bis too far from reality cause we all know that casimero  need to win around 2-3 boxer in order to have a chance to fight the undisputed boxer in bantamweight division which is Inoue. But if casimero will do that in a short period of time then for sure there a chance to fight the  monster.

Inoue is just too far for Casi to chase already and Arum isn't someone he had impressed a bit. His career started crashing when he pushed to get a fight with Inoue afaik.

Casimero is getting old and without a title shot to look forward to. I think his option is to look for a youtuber like one of the Pauls, get into trashtalk, and hope he could maybe get a big payday for it.  Will Casi even get a shot to fight Tapales after Inoue?

If Inoue's camp wont really be able to consider out this fight even if its already that long time that Casimero is really that taunting him but its not really that effective because he's been that always been ignored or they dont

really care that much.The only way would really be having that mandatory fight or if ever they would really be considering on fighting Casimero and its true that he isnt on the position on dictating on whom he would gonna fight which simply means that if he's really that dedicated on fighting Inoue then he should really be that winning those upcoming fights and he might really be able to get Inoue's interest and might push this fight.
Now, it would really be normal for Inoue on having that attention on unifying all the belts with the current division that he's in and this is where it do end up on against with Tapales.

In talking about Tapales capability then we shouldn't really be underestimating yet this one is also a champion on this weight divsion on which he shouldn't really be taking lightly if i would be on Inoue.
He shouldnt really be that confident because one false move or mistake then it might turn the event or outcome upside down.

He surely knows that there was an option, a fight against Nery but to be honest, I am surprised that he didn't pursue that kind of fight as that was the key to help elevate his name as well as his rank, considering that he can defeat Nery on the process. But right now, he's already late because he chose a fight where it won't benefit that much specially after the fact that he is looking forward to fighting against Inoue and to settle their rivalry that has been unanswered for years now.

There's nothing he can do because he isn't the champion, and he is not in a position to dictate. What he can do is remain hopeful that his taunts towards Inoue will result in Inoue accepting the challenge and fighting him. Right now, he needs to focus on his upcoming fight and the succeeding fights if Inoue still does not respond. As long as Inoue has not moved up in weight, the chance is still alive. Eventually, Casimero's ranking will increase, and maybe one day he'll become a mandatory challenger.

There is not much money to get in the super-bantamweight division specially if he already unified all the belts. Besides Casimero, there is no other boxer that could give him a good fight so the camp's best choice is to move in the featherweight division because there, the guys are more stronger and it will mean that they will have more money to get if he will be successful too.

For Casimero, I don't know. I'm afraid that he's already too late when it comes to chances and if he won't be chosen as Inoue's rival by their camp itself whenever Inoue will remain for another fight defending his belt, then I don't know anymore what Casimero can do in-order to have his dream fight against Inoue.

And he should be a gambler if that is the case because he cannot make a good name for himself outside Japan if he's just staying at his own country and doing some fights just because he is scared not to get the judge's favor. He should know by now that everything is a gamble, just like how he moves in the upper weight classes, and sooner or later, as he move forward, he will come by an opponent where he will be challenged heavily and when that time comes, he should be ready about the consequences and instead of fearing what would happen in his record, he ought to know that this industry is not about being undefeated until you retire. People will always remember the guys who are facing the strongest guys on their sport.

That depends on his opponent. The fact that you mentioned he would have to go up and challenge the champion, it's also a challenge for him if he can carry his power and speed in a heavier division. Every division that he would climb is a gamble, as he is fighting the champion and risking his undefeated record. And as his opponents get bigger and bigger, it will be harder for him to win by KO. That could jeopardize his record, since most of the time, the champions are favored when the fight reaches the judges' scorecards. What I'm saying is he needs to ensure that he carefully evaluates himself before making a decision.

But they need to understand that if they want to become a world champion, they also need to be popular worldwide. Inoue is already popular, but he chooses to fight more within his country, which is not good if he wants to earn more money. There is plenty of money in Vegas; maybe he should consider granting the fans' request and taking a bit of a risk. Besides, if he's worried that judges might be unfair with their decision, then he should ensure that he will win via KO. I'm sure it's not hard for him as he is a KO artist.