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Topic: [Boxing]: Jerwin Ancajas vs Takuma Inoue - Nov 15 - page 5. (Read 1640 times)

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Jonas Sultan will also be in the undercard here. He is in the comeback trail so hopefully if he wins here, he will have a crack on the championship belt.

It is also reported that Artem Dalakian puts his WBA flyweight championship on the line against Japanese contender Seigo Akui as undercard.

So everything has been set up already and in just a week, we will finally see this fight.
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So far here are the results of the voting:



Majority are seeing that Jerwin can win this fight via decision, at least half of those who voted. Although I believed that Jerwin is more heavy handed by the Japanese and there are chances that the fight could end up by a knockout.
I think majority of the voters are Filipino, so there's some kind of biasness too. hehe.
But of course, Ancajas isn't jut a left over fighter, he was once a champion, lose his belt, and now is trying to be a champion again.
Although this might be a little hard since it's in Japan, but since Inoue isn't a KO artist, I'm seeing that Ancajas has a decent chance of winning here.

But we will see, we are days closer to the fight itself and everyone is very excited and we do hope that this will turn out to be a great match up.
Only fight this month that I'm looking forward to watch, and I'm cheering and betting for Ancajas to win.
I would expect a great match up.
That what poll are used for on which it would be neither be that neutral or would be somewhat bias on which we know that country fellowmen would really be that going to look for those fighters who do reside on the same country but there would be still to those people who would really be going into opposite. It is really just that on whatever those numbers be showing then it would really be just that a community opinion and looks
but in overall results or outcome would really be just that always been that unpredictable. When it comes to winning then i would be still have those doubts that outcomes might really be that influenced
considering that this would be still done on Japan on which there are even rumors that judging might not really be that soemthing fair i should say.

Well, those are just rumors if this one turns out to be true then Ancajas would really be needing to take down Takuma once and for all.  Smiley
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^^ And its good to be bias sometimes as we support the fighter that we wanted, even if they are a huge underdog and then enjoy the fights. At least they will give you a good return if they win.

If not, still good that you see your favorite fighter trying to get the big W. And what others have describe, being underdog might bring good things to Jerwin like being motivated and prove that he is not done yet. Plus the belt that he will have here and that having Takuma Inoue as his victim will be huge for him and will be the new man in this division.
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So far here are the results of the voting:



Majority are seeing that Jerwin can win this fight via decision, at least half of those who voted. Although I believed that Jerwin is more heavy handed by the Japanese and there are chances that the fight could end up by a knockout.
I think majority of the voters are Filipino, so there's some kind of biasness too. hehe.
But of course, Ancajas isn't jut a left over fighter, he was once a champion, lose his belt, and now is trying to be a champion again.
Although this might be a little hard since it's in Japan, but since Inoue isn't a KO artist, I'm seeing that Ancajas has a decent chance of winning here.

But we will see, we are days closer to the fight itself and everyone is very excited and we do hope that this will turn out to be a great match up.
Only fight this month that I'm looking forward to watch, and I'm cheering and betting for Ancajas to win.
I would expect a great match up.

Yeah, we Pinoys are going to support Ancajas here, no matter what the odds are, we are going to vote for him and wish him the best that he can bring back another championship in our country since we don't have any as far as I know. And he has all the tools in my opinion to pull an upset against Inoue. And so I agree that that he has a good to decent chance in winning, Ancajas is known to have power, I think homecourt advantage doesn't matter in boxing, although judges could be biased, but I think not one of them will be Japanese. Yes, just a couple of weeks from now and maybe Jerwin is in training full swing and hopefully there's no more delay like no accident going to happen in sparring (like what happen to Fury).

This fight was already delayed, it will not be delayed again. There was no problem with Ancajas camp but the problem was on Inoue's since he was injured in the training and that resulted to the postponement of the fight which is rescheduled this February 24 this year.

As reported by one of posters here, the odds was 3:1 in favor of Inoue. So betting Ancajas would give double return on our money.

We aren't just bias, we also believe that Ancajas are just underrated and he can beat Inoue. Because if we only are bias without analyzing the fight, we could have bet on Tapales when he face the beast Inoue, Takuma's brother.
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So far here are the results of the voting:



Majority are seeing that Jerwin can win this fight via decision, at least half of those who voted. Although I believed that Jerwin is more heavy handed by the Japanese and there are chances that the fight could end up by a knockout.
I think majority of the voters are Filipino, so there's some kind of biasness too. hehe.
But of course, Ancajas isn't jut a left over fighter, he was once a champion, lose his belt, and now is trying to be a champion again.
Although this might be a little hard since it's in Japan, but since Inoue isn't a KO artist, I'm seeing that Ancajas has a decent chance of winning here.

But we will see, we are days closer to the fight itself and everyone is very excited and we do hope that this will turn out to be a great match up.
Only fight this month that I'm looking forward to watch, and I'm cheering and betting for Ancajas to win.
I would expect a great match up.

Yeah, we Pinoys are going to support Ancajas here, no matter what the odds are, we are going to vote for him and wish him the best that he can bring back another championship in our country since we don't have any as far as I know. And he has all the tools in my opinion to pull an upset against Inoue. And so I agree that that he has a good to decent chance in winning, Ancajas is known to have power, I think homecourt advantage doesn't matter in boxing, although judges could be biased, but I think not one of them will be Japanese. Yes, just a couple of weeks from now and maybe Jerwin is in training full swing and hopefully there's no more delay like no accident going to happen in sparring (like what happen to Fury).
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So far here are the results of the voting:



Majority are seeing that Jerwin can win this fight via decision, at least half of those who voted. Although I believed that Jerwin is more heavy handed by the Japanese and there are chances that the fight could end up by a knockout.
I think majority of the voters are Filipino, so there's some kind of biasness too. hehe.
But of course, Ancajas isn't jut a left over fighter, he was once a champion, lose his belt, and now is trying to be a champion again.
Although this might be a little hard since it's in Japan, but since Inoue isn't a KO artist, I'm seeing that Ancajas has a decent chance of winning here.

But we will see, we are days closer to the fight itself and everyone is very excited and we do hope that this will turn out to be a great match up.
Only fight this month that I'm looking forward to watch, and I'm cheering and betting for Ancajas to win.
I would expect a great match up.
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So far here are the results of the voting:



Majority are seeing that Jerwin can win this fight via decision, at least half of those who voted. Although I believed that Jerwin is more heavy handed by the Japanese and there are chances that the fight could end up by a knockout.

But we will see, we are days closer to the fight itself and everyone is very excited and we do hope that this will turn out to be a great match up.
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When I saw the title, it touched my heart because I read the news today of a Japanese boxer who died after emergency brain surgery. He was only 23. He was in the match before Japanese superstar Naoya Inoue entered the ring to battle Marlon Tapales. He was in a coma after the match. Young warrior may your soul rest in peace.


This is the risk in boxing, he is not the only one that died because of this sport, some were able to survive but their brains are affected so as their behavior and they could not box anymore. If the government consider the risk, they could ban boxing, but you know there's a huge money in this sport, it's money that makes wrong a right one. It's already acceptable to the fans, and we seemed to love boxing although we've seen one boxer getting beat up badly and could potentially injure him or could take his life. That's the world we live in, either close your eyes, or watch the game and enjoy.
In any sports there would really be always those risks when it comes on acquiring those kind of possible damagers but of course it would really be that more severe on boxing since this is really that involved on hitting up those vital parts specially on head or even with those body blows on which it could cause up some potential inner hemorrhage on which it cant detected out totally.
We do know that there are really things that cant be avoided and its impossible that a certain fighter isnt aware of those possibilities.

Going back into the topic on which some of users posted above that these both boxers arent that powerpunchers. Fight would likely be ending up on a
draw unless if there would really be some nasty counters that could pass through.  Grin
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When I saw the title, it touched my heart because I read the news today of a Japanese boxer who died after emergency brain surgery. He was only 23. He was in the match before Japanese superstar Naoya Inoue entered the ring to battle Marlon Tapales. He was in a coma after the match. Young warrior may your soul rest in peace.


This is the risk in boxing, he is not the only one that died because of this sport, some were able to survive but their brains are affected so as their behavior and they could not box anymore. If the government consider the risk, they could ban boxing, but you know there's a huge money in this sport, it's money that makes wrong a right one. It's already acceptable to the fans, and we seemed to love boxing although we've seen one boxer getting beat up badly and could potentially injure him or could take his life. That's the world we live in, either close your eyes, or watch the game and enjoy.

That's whey they deserve to get paid with a huge amount of money because in every fight they are risking their life.

Just like last year, Magsayo KO'd ISAAC AVELAR and it was recently reported that he could not get back to boxing again as he was seriously injured during that fight. Some people say it was a mismatch because ISAAC AVELAR ain't really on the level of Magsayo, but who knows, every boxer wants to win, and sometimes even the huge underdog could upset the champion.

There's nothing to be blame here, Isaac accepted the risk when he choose boxing as his career, so now he has to accept the consequnces.

You can watch the highlights here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCgtB8I8k1M

And it maybe reinforce Floyd's "health comes first" in boxing, although for us, this style is boring because of all the holdings and running. But the one that died is not that kind of boxer, he loves to engage, but as what we call, maybe it was his destiny to died inside the boxing ring or as a boxer. So RIP champion.

Going back to this fight, odd makers put Inoue as the favorite, but for us who followed Ancajas, a former champion, this could be a 50:50 fight to be honest. Not putting down Inoue, but for me, he might have the attention because of his brother but he doesn't have the power of Naoya.
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When I saw the title, it touched my heart because I read the news today of a Japanese boxer who died after emergency brain surgery. He was only 23. He was in the match before Japanese superstar Naoya Inoue entered the ring to battle Marlon Tapales. He was in a coma after the match. Young warrior may your soul rest in peace.


This is the risk in boxing, he is not the only one that died because of this sport, some were able to survive but their brains are affected so as their behavior and they could not box anymore. If the government consider the risk, they could ban boxing, but you know there's a huge money in this sport, it's money that makes wrong a right one. It's already acceptable to the fans, and we seemed to love boxing although we've seen one boxer getting beat up badly and could potentially injure him or could take his life. That's the world we live in, either close your eyes, or watch the game and enjoy.

That's whey they deserve to get paid with a huge amount of money because in every fight they are risking their life.

Just like last year, Magsayo KO'd ISAAC AVELAR and it was recently reported that he could not get back to boxing again as he was seriously injured during that fight. Some people say it was a mismatch because ISAAC AVELAR ain't really on the level of Magsayo, but who knows, every boxer wants to win, and sometimes even the huge underdog could upset the champion.

There's nothing to be blame here, Isaac accepted the risk when he choose boxing as his career, so now he has to accept the consequnces.

You can watch the highlights here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCgtB8I8k1M

That is why this sport is only for the mentally brave and physically strong. Boxing gloves make it more dangerous. While the impact of bare-knuckle fists and MMA gloves have stronger impacts and can score knockouts right away, boxing gloves shake the head which can lead to the possibility of brain damage. And since it has a less direct impact, fights can further prolong which also means more punishments to receive. Without gloves, all into boxing are knockout artists even those with very low KO rates.

RIP to the young  Japanese fighter. I actually watched it live prior to the Inoue-Tapales main event. He's very skillful but light-handed which is why I was more concerned about his opponent because it received more blows to the head.   

Just today Isaac Avelar posted on Instagram. I auto-converted this into English. It seems like he is returning to boxing soon.
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When I saw the title, it touched my heart because I read the news today of a Japanese boxer who died after emergency brain surgery. He was only 23. He was in the match before Japanese superstar Naoya Inoue entered the ring to battle Marlon Tapales. He was in a coma after the match. Young warrior may your soul rest in peace.


This is the risk in boxing, he is not the only one that died because of this sport, some were able to survive but their brains are affected so as their behavior and they could not box anymore. If the government consider the risk, they could ban boxing, but you know there's a huge money in this sport, it's money that makes wrong a right one. It's already acceptable to the fans, and we seemed to love boxing although we've seen one boxer getting beat up badly and could potentially injure him or could take his life. That's the world we live in, either close your eyes, or watch the game and enjoy.

That's whey they deserve to get paid with a huge amount of money because in every fight they are risking their life.

Just like last year, Magsayo KO'd ISAAC AVELAR and it was recently reported that he could not get back to boxing again as he was seriously injured during that fight. Some people say it was a mismatch because ISAAC AVELAR ain't really on the level of Magsayo, but who knows, every boxer wants to win, and sometimes even the huge underdog could upset the champion.

There's nothing to be blame here, Isaac accepted the risk when he choose boxing as his career, so now he has to accept the consequnces.

You can watch the highlights here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCgtB8I8k1M
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When I saw the title, it touched my heart because I read the news today of a Japanese boxer who died after emergency brain surgery. He was only 23. He was in the match before Japanese superstar Naoya Inoue entered the ring to battle Marlon Tapales. He was in a coma after the match. Young warrior may your soul rest in peace.


This is the risk in boxing, he is not the only one that died because of this sport, some were able to survive but their brains are affected so as their behavior and they could not box anymore. If the government consider the risk, they could ban boxing, but you know there's a huge money in this sport, it's money that makes wrong a right one. It's already acceptable to the fans, and we seemed to love boxing although we've seen one boxer getting beat up badly and could potentially injure him or could take his life. That's the world we live in, either close your eyes, or watch the game and enjoy.
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I have seen Takuma had lost to    Nordine Oubaali in 2019 but well he did able to patch it up into further more wins. As a champion then of course
belittling you opponent would really be that imposing such risks and it isnt something that would really be recommended for someone to do so.
Good thing that this fight had been pushed through now despite of that postponement.

The fighter that was KO'd by an old Donaire. So if we consider that as a basis to determine is capability, we can say that he isn't really a champion in terms of skills. Takuma become a champion but all his fights is in Japan, he was probably favored by the judges or their promoters are good in cherry picking his opponents, but Ancajas is different, he was once a champion and I believe Takoma is gonna lose in the hands of the Filipino.

Perhaps the better comparison should be against his brother? And if this is where we are looking at, obviously they are very far from each other as Naoya is more of a complete fighter than Takuma. And I think everyone is not sold on Takuma, yes he is the champion, and yes he is the favorite in this fight.
It's understandable why he is the favorite here, he is the champion and is fighting in front of his home crowd. But that was on the bookies, nothing should be significant in terms of the actual fight and how Ancajas would feel as he knows he will be fighting on the territory of the champion, so he needs to have an impressive performance, so if he could not deliver a knockout, and obvious domination might merit a win for him. I'm talking about domination because if it's a close fight, it's not safe for him.

But we shouldn't look down at Jerwin talent and accomplishments as well. He is indeed a former champion, and his tenure is very long. So it's just a matter of adjustment for him and it seems that he has settled to this new division as he doesn't need to squeeze his bigger frame to 115 lbs. We all know that it's one cause of fighter losing fight as they will be dehydrated just to make the weight requirement and it has adverse effect on them and that's why Ancajas lost his belt.

Of course, no one is looking down on his achievement, in fact, I am on his side with this fight and I'm optimistic he could deliver a convincing win even in Japan. Although there hasn't been controversies proven on Japanes fighters choose to fight in Japan, but you can't take it to the dirty mind of the people to speculate, because they'll think it's a homecourt advantage, and it could possibly rig in favor of their own fighter.
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When I saw the title, it touched my heart because I read the news today of a Japanese boxer who died after emergency brain surgery. He was only 23. He was in the match before Japanese superstar Naoya Inoue entered the ring to battle Marlon Tapales. He was in a coma after the match. Young warrior may your soul rest in peace.
Yes, it's really saddened when we hear boxers dying because of the love of the sports. It's cruel we all know that and that's why every fight their life is on the line. So rest in peace champ. And it will also has a mental impact on the fighter that cause this accident. There were stories that fighters who beat boxers in the ring and their opponents died, didn't go and push for their boxing career as they carry the burden of "killing" someone inside the ring.

I am confused of this match because the date is written as November 15. But as reported in the news the match was rescheduled. The sibling of Naoya is not like him and has a low knockout win. Jerwin Ancajas was a champion before with a handful of experience, he can win by knockout.
That is the original schedule, but it was canceled because Takuma Inoue suffered a rib injury if I'm not mistaken and so the fight has to be postpone and now it's all a good this coming February. Definitely, Ancajas has the experience and with that, he might be a huge underdog, but for sure he will throw everything in this fight as this is a make or break for his career. As another lost will put him down in the rankings and he might not have a chance to fight for the belt again.
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When I saw the title, it touched my heart because I read the news today of a Japanese boxer who died after emergency brain surgery. He was only 23. He was in the match before Japanese superstar Naoya Inoue entered the ring to battle Marlon Tapales. He was in a coma after the match. Young warrior may your soul rest in peace.

I am confused of this match because the date is written as November 15. But as reported in the news the match was rescheduled. The sibling of Naoya is not like him and has a low knockout win. Jerwin Ancajas was a champion before with a handful of experience, he can win by knockout.
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I have seen Takuma had lost to    Nordine Oubaali in 2019 but well he did able to patch it up into further more wins. As a champion then of course
belittling you opponent would really be that imposing such risks and it isnt something that would really be recommended for someone to do so.
Good thing that this fight had been pushed through now despite of that postponement.

The fighter that was KO'd by an old Donaire. So if we consider that as a basis to determine is capability, we can say that he isn't really a champion in terms of skills. Takuma become a champion but all his fights is in Japan, he was probably favored by the judges or their promoters are good in cherry picking his opponents, but Ancajas is different, he was once a champion and I believe Takoma is gonna lose in the hands of the Filipino.

Perhaps the better comparison should be against his brother? And if this is where we are looking at, obviously they are very far from each other as Naoya is more of a complete fighter than Takuma. And I think everyone is not sold on Takuma, yes he is the champion, and yes he is the favorite in this fight. But we shouldn't look down at Jerwin talent and accomplishments as well. He is indeed a former champion, and his tenure is very long. So it's just a matter of adjustment for him and it seems that he has settled to this new division as he doesn't need to squeeze his bigger frame to 115 lbs. We all know that it's one cause of fighter losing fight as they will be dehydrated just to make the weight requirement and it has adverse effect on them and that's why Ancajas lost his belt.
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I have seen Takuma had lost to    Nordine Oubaali in 2019 but well he did able to patch it up into further more wins. As a champion then of course
belittling you opponent would really be that imposing such risks and it isnt something that would really be recommended for someone to do so.
Good thing that this fight had been pushed through now despite of that postponement.

The fighter that was KO'd by an old Donaire. So if we consider that as a basis to determine is capability, we can say that he isn't really a champion in terms of skills. Takuma become a champion but all his fights is in Japan, he was probably favored by the judges or their promoters are good in cherry picking his opponents, but Ancajas is different, he was once a champion and I believe Takoma is gonna lose in the hands of the Filipino.

Unfortunately, what you describe is triangle-theory. Which in boxing and perhaps in any other sports, is not applicable. I think most Japanese fighters fought in their country, not sure what's the reason behind, maybe they are comfortable in their backyard or there is really enough money for them to make, maybe the same if they are going to fight somewhere else like the US because Japanese boxing has a lot of money.

Anyhow, Ancajas has been a world champion himself, he hold the IBF junior-bantamweight title from 2016 to 2022. That is a huge accomplished already. And in this fight, he will try to regain his status and his name and I think he is still in his prime years. And as the voting shows, although underdog as far as betting goes, but in our community he was put to have a good chance +50% to win.
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The fighter that was KO'd by an old Donaire. So if we consider that as a basis to determine is capability, we can say that he isn't really a champion in terms of skills. Takuma become a champion but all his fights is in Japan, he was probably favored by the judges or their promoters are good in cherry picking his opponents, but Ancajas is different, he was once a champion and I believe Takoma is gonna lose in the hands of the Filipino.
Then what can you say with Naoya Inoue that most of his fights are in Japan? Do you say that it is really that on the same scenario on where these fighters about nitpicking their opponents?
If we do see on how their wins do pile up then we can actually say that it is really that somehow true. About beaten up by old donaire on what that due has been lost to, then it is safe
to say that Ancajas would really be  that having the chance or odds on taking on this one.

Basing up on the poll,most of people do sees the same thing.

Jerwin Ancajas by decision   - 13 (52%)
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I have seen Takuma had lost to    Nordine Oubaali in 2019 but well he did able to patch it up into further more wins. As a champion then of course
belittling you opponent would really be that imposing such risks and it isnt something that would really be recommended for someone to do so.
Good thing that this fight had been pushed through now despite of that postponement.

The fighter that was KO'd by an old Donaire. So if we consider that as a basis to determine is capability, we can say that he isn't really a champion in terms of skills. Takuma become a champion but all his fights is in Japan, he was probably favored by the judges or their promoters are good in cherry picking his opponents, but Ancajas is different, he was once a champion and I believe Takoma is gonna lose in the hands of the Filipino.
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As to the betting odds which he is the underdog, I think that's okay, it's justifiable since he is the challenger and the fight is held in Japan. Of course, I wouldn't be questioning that, I love him as the underdog as I'm betting on him to win. Good luck to him, hopefully we will see another Filipino champion soon.

He is what we term, live underdog, he might be 3:1, but that is good for us gambling bettors. It might be a motivation for him seeing that he is a underdog to a boxer that we think that he has a good chance to beat and then win the belt again.

Of course he should be motivated as he wants to become a champion. He lose his belt and now given this opportunity, isn't it what a champ would want that they will come back at the top again? But being 3:1 underdog, I doubt he cares about that, it's only for us gamblers and we bet on the underdog not just because of its potential payout but most importantly we believe that Ancajas has a decent chance of beating Takuma Inoue.

Most boxers especially the champions or used to be a champion does not underestimate their opponent, they train hard because they understand that one mistake could change the game. For example here, if Inoue will not train hard because he underestimated Ancajas, most likely he will lose because the challenger is very motivated to get his belt. Once a boxer becomes a champion, it will also open a lot of opportunities for him, more fights means more money, and that's why boxers are after of, aside from legacy in boxing which can only be achieve if a boxer is extraordinary like Takuma's brother.
I wasnt able to track or wary about on how Takuma Inoue on which on the time i did make out some research on
https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/667667 Then it do really shows that this man had already 18W-1L with have small TKO percentage on which this do really shows that he isnt having that much
compared into his older brother Naoya but still 18 wins with having 1 defeat isnt something that you could really be that confident on dealing with on which we know
that its still dangerous for Ancajas to be that being careless.

I have seen Takuma had lost to    Nordine Oubaali in 2019 but well he did able to patch it up into further more wins. As a champion then of course
belittling you opponent would really be that imposing such risks and it isnt something that would really be recommended for someone to do so.
Good thing that this fight had been pushed through now despite of that postponement.

I think that time Takuma looks very raw, and Nordine was the veteran, but as you have said, he make it up on this next fight and become a champion. On the other hand, Ancajas is a former champion, but had back to back loses when he try to get back that belt.

But he has a good chance here, Ancajas still had that heavy hands, and if he can just land that power punch and let Takuma feel it so that he will be like trying to avoid it like a plague and so he should be the aggressor and try to bring the fight to the Japanese.
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