[Boxing]: Jerwin Ancajas vs Takuma Inoue - Nov 15 - page 10.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on September 01, 2023, 12:39:06 AM

I would like to see Jerwin becoming champion again but I actually voted for Takuma by decision. Jerwin is going to get schooled if he is not bringing something new to his technique.

He faced two losses against the same opponent, Fernando Daniel Martinez. Given that Takumi's upcoming opponent might have a different fighting style, there might not be a pressing need for him to change his own style. Both camps will undoubtedly study their opponent and develop a strategy they believe will work best.

Honestly, I haven't observed anything particularly exceptional from Takumi, and despite Jerwin facing some challenges lately, I still believe he has what it takes to be victorious in this match.

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Looks like Jerwin Ancajas by decision is the majority vote with over 52%, including my very own vote. But I while think its reasonable to believe this, I would love to know everyone else's opinion on why exactly they think a Jewin Ancajas by KO is much less likely. Is it because Takuma Inoue has only known to have been KO'd only once in his career, by Nordine Oubaali? Or is it because he has only lost once? Huh

Sure Takuma might be tough but a punch from Jerwin is no joke. I think the chance of a KO should be higher than the polls are currently reflecting. Not as high as a by decision but still quite much higher.

Jerwin was IBF junior bantam weight title holder and most of the opinion in this game was Jerwin.With your words already the fifty percentage of vote was crossed,so the percentage of vote was favour the Jerwin.The maximum KO was made by the young and efficient Jerwin as compared to the Japanese player Inoue.This match going to decide whether the Japanese player or Philippines player to win this match.The power puncher Jerwin will face the hard puncher Inoue in this match.Most probably the match end before the complete of 5 rounds by the KO,this was the unique style of Jerwin in most of the match.

It is less likely that Jerwin Ancajas will score a knockout because Takuma Inoue is a smart boxer with very good stamina since nearly all of his fights went the distance. Takuma is not known to punch that hard reason why he only has 4 KOs in his 18 wins. And by the way, Takuma's only defeat was by decision and not by knockout so we shall see if Jerwin is capable of catching him clean.

I would like to see Jerwin becoming champion again but I actually voted for Takuma by decision. Jerwin is going to get schooled if he is not bringing something new to his technique.

Yes, we are going to support Jerwin here although he could be at a disadvantage because the fight is in Japan and he could lose to the judges scorecard. So what he needs to do is to win by knockout and he should try to do that and not let the judges score the fight.

Maybe they know that Takuma has a good stamina, so they will have to work hard with the timing of Jerwin here. I watch highlights of his last fight and that body shot, it could be effective against Takuma.

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Looks like Jerwin Ancajas by decision is the majority vote with over 52%, including my very own vote. But I while think its reasonable to believe this, I would love to know everyone else's opinion on why exactly they think a Jewin Ancajas by KO is much less likely. Is it because Takuma Inoue has only known to have been KO'd only once in his career, by Nordine Oubaali? Or is it because he has only lost once? Huh

Sure Takuma might be tough but a punch from Jerwin is no joke. I think the chance of a KO should be higher than the polls are currently reflecting. Not as high as a by decision but still quite much higher.

Jerwin was IBF junior bantam weight title holder and most of the opinion in this game was Jerwin.With your words already the fifty percentage of vote was crossed,so the percentage of vote was favour the Jerwin.The maximum KO was made by the young and efficient Jerwin as compared to the Japanese player Inoue.This match going to decide whether the Japanese player or Philippines player to win this match.The power puncher Jerwin will face the hard puncher Inoue in this match.Most probably the match end before the complete of 5 rounds by the KO,this was the unique style of Jerwin in most of the match.

It is less likely that Jerwin Ancajas will score a knockout because Takuma Inoue is a smart boxer with very good stamina since nearly all of his fights went the distance. Takuma is not known to punch that hard reason why he only has 4 KOs in his 18 wins. And by the way, Takuma's only defeat was by decision and not by knockout so we shall see if Jerwin is capable of catching him clean.

I would like to see Jerwin becoming champion again but I actually voted for Takuma by decision. Jerwin is going to get schooled if he is not bringing something new to his technique.

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Looks like Jerwin Ancajas by decision is the majority vote with over 52%, including my very own vote. But I while think its reasonable to believe this, I would love to know everyone else's opinion on why exactly they think a Jewin Ancajas by KO is much less likely. Is it because Takuma Inoue has only known to have been KO'd only once in his career, by Nordine Oubaali? Or is it because he has only lost once? Huh

Sure Takuma might be tough but a punch from Jerwin is no joke. I think the chance of a KO should be higher than the polls are currently reflecting. Not as high as a by decision but still quite much higher.

I think it's because Ancajas is more careful now, he is not so aggressive, he fight smartly to be able to comeback being a champion. Personally, I believe that he will win, but this fight is more like very technical as both wants to win. As per record, Ancajas is more experience with 34 fights while
Takuma Inoue only has 18 fights, and also Inoue's KO rate is very low as he only have 4 KO wins from 18 fights, which is very opposite to his brother, so no doubt Ancajas will get this win.

I guess before maybe Jerwin thought that he can just go and fight and beat everyone with his knockout power. And with his 2 losses, he could have learn from it the hard way that he needs to be very careful now specially that this is a new weight class for him.

But we really can't take it away from him when he was the previous champion at 115 lbs as he had defended it multiple times. And hopefully, his power will carry to this new weight class and could still be a new champion.

Here is the latest win by Ancajas and be the judge if he can win against Takuma Inoue or not based on his last performance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIid4-jh2bc

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Quote from: goldkingcoiner on August 31, 2023, 08:54:02 AM

Looks like Jerwin Ancajas by decision is the majority vote with over 52%, including my very own vote. But I while think its reasonable to believe this, I would love to know everyone else's opinion on why exactly they think a Jewin Ancajas by KO is much less likely. Is it because Takuma Inoue has only known to have been KO'd only once in his career, by Nordine Oubaali? Or is it because he has only lost once? Huh

Sure Takuma might be tough but a punch from Jerwin is no joke. I think the chance of a KO should be higher than the polls are currently reflecting. Not as high as a by decision but still quite much higher.

Jerwin was IBF junior bantam weight title holder and most of the opinion in this game was Jerwin.With your words already the fifty percentage of vote was crossed,so the percentage of vote was favour the Jerwin.The maximum KO was made by the young and efficient Jerwin as compared to the Japanese player Inoue.This match going to decide whether the Japanese player or Philippines player to win this match.The power puncher Jerwin will face the hard puncher Inoue in this match.Most probably the match end before the complete of 5 rounds by the KO,this was the unique style of Jerwin in most of the match.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on August 31, 2023, 09:17:26 AM

I think it's because Ancajas is more careful now, he is not so aggressive, he fight smartly to be able to comeback being a champion. Personally, I believe that he will win, but this fight is more like very technical as both wants to win. As per record, Ancajas is more experience with 34 fights while
Takuma Inoue only has 18 fights, and also Inoue's KO rate is very low as he only have 4 KO wins from 18 fights, which is very opposite to his brother, so no doubt Ancajas will get this win.

Inoue will have a big problem if Ancajas shows no respect for his punches, This is what exactly happened in his last fight against Wilner Soto, he chased Soto all throughout the fight because his punches had no effect on Ancajas, Inoue has a very low knock out rate and he'll have to be more technical and he has to show stamina because Ancajas will chase him.

Ancajas should dominate or knock out Inoue for him to win the title because this is Inoue's hometown and if the fight is close they will favor Inoue, I don't see Ancajas losing this fight he needs to win the fight it's hard for him to get a shot in the world title because he had 2 losses in a row in a world title fight.

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Quote from: goldkingcoiner on August 31, 2023, 08:54:02 AM

Looks like Jerwin Ancajas by decision is the majority vote with over 52%, including my very own vote. But I while think its reasonable to believe this, I would love to know everyone else's opinion on why exactly they think a Jewin Ancajas by KO is much less likely. Is it because Takuma Inoue has only known to have been KO'd only once in his career, by Nordine Oubaali? Or is it because he has only lost once? Huh

Sure Takuma might be tough but a punch from Jerwin is no joke. I think the chance of a KO should be higher than the polls are currently reflecting. Not as high as a by decision but still quite much higher.

I think it's because Ancajas is more careful now, he is not so aggressive, he fight smartly to be able to comeback being a champion. Personally, I believe that he will win, but this fight is more like very technical as both wants to win. As per record, Ancajas is more experience with 34 fights while
Takuma Inoue only has 18 fights, and also Inoue's KO rate is very low as he only have 4 KO wins from 18 fights, which is very opposite to his brother, so no doubt Ancajas will get this win.

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Looks like Jerwin Ancajas by decision is the majority vote with over 52%, including my very own vote. But I while think its reasonable to believe this, I would love to know everyone else's opinion on why exactly they think a Jewin Ancajas by KO is much less likely. Is it because Takuma Inoue has only known to have been KO'd only once in his career, by Nordine Oubaali? Or is it because he has only lost once? Huh

Sure Takuma might be tough but a punch from Jerwin is no joke. I think the chance of a KO should be higher than the polls are currently reflecting. Not as high as a by decision but still quite much higher.

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That is really the big issue with Jerwin when he lost the belt the first time, not sure though why they insists on a rematch since he can no longer make the weight class and obviously his body is getting bigger.

Maybe before, not confident enough to climb at 118 pounds when there were lots of strong contenders during that time.

Just my guess though why he decided to just stay at 115 and we know what happened later on. It's good for me to see him being defeated at the hands of Fernando Martinez, not once but twice, for him to recognize that they need to get out from that division he reigned for a long and consider stepping up another challenge on his career. Being a contender now at one of the belts at 118, I'm sure he won't have any weight problems now. Previously in his last fight in June, he weighed around 121 lbs during his fight against Wilner Soto which he got a knockout win.

We can assume that Ancajas' comfort weight now is between 118 to 122.

Team Ancajas were very confident about moving up in weight after the first defeat. They said they are moving up in weight. I don't know why the change of decisions. But it is indeed very tough to decide since they have a rematch clause on Fernando Martinez. So the final decision was to activate the rematch clause against Martinez and then move up in weight. Should Ancajas won in that rematch, he would've probably gotten ranked in the top 5 of these sanctioning bodies since he moved up in weight as a champion. He lost the rematch but he is lucky that 2 of the sanctioning bodies still ranked him in the top 10.

I really want to see something new in Ancajas' strategies this time, otherwise, Takuma Inoue will outbox him for the 12 rounds.

I'm also thinking the same, instead of the rematch, they should have make the move on going up to 118 when it was still one of the hottest weight class because of Naoya Inoue, but they chooses a rematch and so they lost again.

I'm thinking what will be the new strategy for Ancajas though, I mean he fell in love with his power. However, when it is not hitting the target or at least the target doesn't have any effect on his power, he doesn't have plan B. Will he go technical this time and try to outbox Takuma here but just moving around and try to counter at best?

My best guess is that he remained in that division because he had been a champion for quite a long time and became accustomed to the fact that he almost forgot that it's time for him to move up until he fought Martinez and lost twice, that became his eye opener that his time at super fly was already finished and it's time for him to move-on and try the next weight class, which is the 118.

Now that he is facing an Inoue, I think he have a good chance to upset the champion because of his experience that he attained overtime at 115.

Or maybe he doesn't want to move up, because there are a lot of Filipinos out there, Casimero (WBO champion), Nonito Donaire (WBC champion). And so he remains for a while at 115 lbs but as we have said, after his defeat it's time for him to move up.

And now that Donaire lost his championship fight and then Casimero moving up in weight, it's a good time for the former champion to go up at 118 lbs. And be lucky to have the first crack at the belt of Takuma Inoue.

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That is really the big issue with Jerwin when he lost the belt the first time, not sure though why they insists on a rematch since he can no longer make the weight class and obviously his body is getting bigger.

Maybe before, not confident enough to climb at 118 pounds when there were lots of strong contenders during that time.

Just my guess though why he decided to just stay at 115 and we know what happened later on. It's good for me to see him being defeated at the hands of Fernando Martinez, not once but twice, for him to recognize that they need to get out from that division he reigned for a long and consider stepping up another challenge on his career. Being a contender now at one of the belts at 118, I'm sure he won't have any weight problems now. Previously in his last fight in June, he weighed around 121 lbs during his fight against Wilner Soto which he got a knockout win.

We can assume that Ancajas' comfort weight now is between 118 to 122.

Team Ancajas were very confident about moving up in weight after the first defeat. They said they are moving up in weight. I don't know why the change of decisions. But it is indeed very tough to decide since they have a rematch clause on Fernando Martinez. So the final decision was to activate the rematch clause against Martinez and then move up in weight. Should Ancajas won in that rematch, he would've probably gotten ranked in the top 5 of these sanctioning bodies since he moved up in weight as a champion. He lost the rematch but he is lucky that 2 of the sanctioning bodies still ranked him in the top 10.

I really want to see something new in Ancajas' strategies this time, otherwise, Takuma Inoue will outbox him for the 12 rounds.

I'm also thinking the same, instead of the rematch, they should have make the move on going up to 118 when it was still one of the hottest weight class because of Naoya Inoue, but they chooses a rematch and so they lost again.

I'm thinking what will be the new strategy for Ancajas though, I mean he fell in love with his power. However, when it is not hitting the target or at least the target doesn't have any effect on his power, he doesn't have plan B. Will he go technical this time and try to outbox Takuma here but just moving around and try to counter at best?

My best guess is that he remained in that division because he had been a champion for quite a long time and became accustomed to the fact that he almost forgot that it's time for him to move up until he fought Martinez and lost twice, that became his eye opener that his time at super fly was already finished and it's time for him to move-on and try the next weight class, which is the 118.

Now that he is facing an Inoue, I think he have a good chance to upset the champion because of his experience that he attained overtime at 115.

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That is really the big issue with Jerwin when he lost the belt the first time, not sure though why they insists on a rematch since he can no longer make the weight class and obviously his body is getting bigger.

Maybe before, not confident enough to climb at 118 pounds when there were lots of strong contenders during that time.

Just my guess though why he decided to just stay at 115 and we know what happened later on. It's good for me to see him being defeated at the hands of Fernando Martinez, not once but twice, for him to recognize that they need to get out from that division he reigned for a long and consider stepping up another challenge on his career. Being a contender now at one of the belts at 118, I'm sure he won't have any weight problems now. Previously in his last fight in June, he weighed around 121 lbs during his fight against Wilner Soto which he got a knockout win.

We can assume that Ancajas' comfort weight now is between 118 to 122.

Team Ancajas were very confident about moving up in weight after the first defeat. They said they are moving up in weight. I don't know why the change of decisions. But it is indeed very tough to decide since they have a rematch clause on Fernando Martinez. So the final decision was to activate the rematch clause against Martinez and then move up in weight. Should Ancajas won in that rematch, he would've probably gotten ranked in the top 5 of these sanctioning bodies since he moved up in weight as a champion. He lost the rematch but he is lucky that 2 of the sanctioning bodies still ranked him in the top 10.

I really want to see something new in Ancajas' strategies this time, otherwise, Takuma Inoue will outbox him for the 12 rounds.

I'm also thinking the same, instead of the rematch, they should have make the move on going up to 118 when it was still one of the hottest weight class because of Naoya Inoue, but they chooses a rematch and so they lost again.

I'm thinking what will be the new strategy for Ancajas though, I mean he fell in love with his power. However, when it is not hitting the target or at least the target doesn't have any effect on his power, he doesn't have plan B. Will he go technical this time and try to outbox Takuma here but just moving around and try to counter at best?

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Quote from: goinmerry on August 30, 2023, 06:33:05 PM

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That is really the big issue with Jerwin when he lost the belt the first time, not sure though why they insists on a rematch since he can no longer make the weight class and obviously his body is getting bigger.

Maybe before, not confident enough to climb at 118 pounds when there were lots of strong contenders during that time.

Just my guess though why he decided to just stay at 115 and we know what happened later on. It's good for me to see him being defeated at the hands of Fernando Martinez, not once but twice, for him to recognize that they need to get out from that division he reigned for a long and consider stepping up another challenge on his career. Being a contender now at one of the belts at 118, I'm sure he won't have any weight problems now. Previously in his last fight in June, he weighed around 121 lbs during his fight against Wilner Soto which he got a knockout win.

We can assume that Ancajas' comfort weight now is between 118 to 122.

Team Ancajas were very confident about moving up in weight after the first defeat. They said they are moving up in weight. I don't know why the change of decisions. But it is indeed very tough to decide since they have a rematch clause on Fernando Martinez. So the final decision was to activate the rematch clause against Martinez and then move up in weight. Should Ancajas won in that rematch, he would've probably gotten ranked in the top 5 of these sanctioning bodies since he moved up in weight as a champion. He lost the rematch but he is lucky that 2 of the sanctioning bodies still ranked him in the top 10.

I really want to see something new in Ancajas' strategies this time, otherwise, Takuma Inoue will outbox him for the 12 rounds.

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That is really the big issue with Jerwin when he lost the belt the first time, not sure though why they insists on a rematch since he can no longer make the weight class and obviously his body is getting bigger.

Maybe before, not confident enough to climb at 118 pounds when there were lots of strong contenders during that time.

Just my guess though why he decided to just stay at 115 and we know what happened later on. It's good for me to see him being defeated at the hands of Fernando Martinez, not once but twice, for him to recognize that they need to get out from that division he reigned for a long and consider stepping up another challenge on his career. Being a contender now at one of the belts at 118, I'm sure he won't have any weight problems now. Previously in his last fight in June, he weighed around 121 lbs during his fight against Wilner Soto which he got a knockout win.

We can assume that Ancajas' comfort weight now is between 118 to 122.

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Jerwin's only accomplishment at bantamweight is beating a journeyman on a 5 fight losing streak, yet somehow ends up getting an opportunity to fight for a title. We see once again that it's all about being well connected if you want to be a champion. Ancajas is a limited fighter but this is not the strongest division and Inoue is a beatable fighter. At this point another setback would be devastating but if he can win it would be interesting to see him against Alexandro Santiago who defeated Donaire a month ago.

I guess of all the rank boxers in WBA organization, only the name of Ancajas rings a bell. And perhaps they think that is not going to be the #1 rank boxer in their division will have the first crack at the champion, maybe someone lower like in the 5-6 ranks and that fits Ancajas.

To early for this champions to have unification fight though, yeah it's mostly the trend, but maybe organizations wanted their champions to defend their belts first before they allow the other champions of the other divisions. Not saying that they are not corrupt, but I think for me, it's better to defend it first within their body and see how strong their champions are.

Takuma Inoue just won his belt and so far there is no mandatory from the WBA to force him to fight the number 1 ranked. So this is just a voluntary defense of Takuma's belt. I am not sure about the WBA's voluntary defense ruling but most likely it's fine for a champion to defend his belt for as long as the opponent is in the top 10 or maybe top 20 depending on the organization. Maybe Ancajas is the only available fighter easy to negotiate and is willing to travel to Japan.

Correct mate, it seems that WBA is not forcing Inoue to fight his mandatory (if there is, but I will assume that there is none), and so he is allowed to have a voluntary defense in their top 15 rank.

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Ancajas was also dominated twice in his last title fights. But Ancajas was a long-time champion and had issues with his weight before moving up so it was probably taken into consideration by the sanctioning bodies. Jerwin Ancajas' last opponent and only fight at the division lost his last 7 fights and only won a single fight in his last 10 but it was enough for the former champion to enter the top 10 in the WBA and IBF rankings.

That is really the big issue with Jerwin when he lost the belt the first time, not sure though why they insists on a rematch since he can no longer make the weight class and obviously his body is getting bigger.

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Jerwin's only accomplishment at bantamweight is beating a journeyman on a 5 fight losing streak, yet somehow ends up getting an opportunity to fight for a title. We see once again that it's all about being well connected if you want to be a champion. Ancajas is a limited fighter but this is not the strongest division and Inoue is a beatable fighter. At this point another setback would be devastating but if he can win it would be interesting to see him against Alexandro Santiago who defeated Donaire a month ago.

I guess of all the rank boxers in WBA organization, only the name of Ancajas rings a bell. And perhaps they think that is not going to be the #1 rank boxer in their division will have the first crack at the champion, maybe someone lower like in the 5-6 ranks and that fits Ancajas.

To early for this champions to have unification fight though, yeah it's mostly the trend, but maybe organizations wanted their champions to defend their belts first before they allow the other champions of the other divisions. Not saying that they are not corrupt, but I think for me, it's better to defend it first within their body and see how strong their champions are.

Takuma Inoue just won his belt and so far there is no mandatory from the WBA to force him to fight the number 1 ranked. So this is just a voluntary defense of Takuma's belt. I am not sure about the WBA's voluntary defense ruling but most likely it's fine for a champion to defend his belt for as long as the opponent is in the top 10 or maybe top 20 depending on the organization. Maybe Ancajas is the only available fighter easy to negotiate and is willing to travel to Japan.

Ancajas was also dominated twice in his last title fights. But Ancajas was a long-time champion and had issues with his weight before moving up so it was probably taken into consideration by the sanctioning bodies. Jerwin Ancajas' last opponent and only fight at the division lost his last 7 fights and only won a single fight in his last 10 but it was enough for the former champion to enter the top 10 in the WBA and IBF rankings.

He entered the division at number 6, so that is enough for Takuma Inoue to pick him up. Maybe they think it's a less risk, big reward for them. I mean Ancajas is a good champion at 115 lbs so their camp thinks that he is good for Takuma to be in their resume.

But as far as travelling to Japan, there are 2 Japanese boxers in the rankings, above Takuma, however, they might be looking for non Japanese to defend his belt first and so it's a perfect fit and perfect find - Jerwin Ancajas. But I wouldn't totally sleep on Jerwin here, he might have a slim chance against the Takuma, but if the fight goes to distance, I will go and put my money on Inoue.

I think I'll go in the opposite way, it's not that I'm supporting Ancajas because he's a fellow countryman but I'll side with him because I can tell and believe that he can make a difference against Takuma Inoue. As a gambler, my heart and mind is not the same that is why in this instance, I'll go with my mind because of what I believe.

Sure Inoue is the champion but they haven't weigh the things correctly because they have chosen the opponent that is lowkey but do have the right advantages in-order to win this fight. Be it early or distance, I'll still be leaning with Ancajas. I mean, it's up to what we believe in mate, no offense.

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Jerwin's only accomplishment at bantamweight is beating a journeyman on a 5 fight losing streak, yet somehow ends up getting an opportunity to fight for a title. We see once again that it's all about being well connected if you want to be a champion. Ancajas is a limited fighter but this is not the strongest division and Inoue is a beatable fighter. At this point another setback would be devastating but if he can win it would be interesting to see him against Alexandro Santiago who defeated Donaire a month ago.

I guess of all the rank boxers in WBA organization, only the name of Ancajas rings a bell. And perhaps they think that is not going to be the #1 rank boxer in their division will have the first crack at the champion, maybe someone lower like in the 5-6 ranks and that fits Ancajas.

To early for this champions to have unification fight though, yeah it's mostly the trend, but maybe organizations wanted their champions to defend their belts first before they allow the other champions of the other divisions. Not saying that they are not corrupt, but I think for me, it's better to defend it first within their body and see how strong their champions are.

Takuma Inoue just won his belt and so far there is no mandatory from the WBA to force him to fight the number 1 ranked. So this is just a voluntary defense of Takuma's belt. I am not sure about the WBA's voluntary defense ruling but most likely it's fine for a champion to defend his belt for as long as the opponent is in the top 10 or maybe top 20 depending on the organization. Maybe Ancajas is the only available fighter easy to negotiate and is willing to travel to Japan.

Ancajas was also dominated twice in his last title fights. But Ancajas was a long-time champion and had issues with his weight before moving up so it was probably taken into consideration by the sanctioning bodies. Jerwin Ancajas' last opponent and only fight at the division lost his last 7 fights and only won a single fight in his last 10 but it was enough for the former champion to enter the top 10 in the WBA and IBF rankings.

He entered the division at number 6, so that is enough for Takuma Inoue to pick him up. Maybe they think it's a less risk, big reward for them. I mean Ancajas is a good champion at 115 lbs so their camp thinks that he is good for Takuma to be in their resume.

But as far as travelling to Japan, there are 2 Japanese boxers in the rankings, above Takuma, however, they might be looking for non Japanese to defend his belt first and so it's a perfect fit and perfect find - Jerwin Ancajas. But I wouldn't totally sleep on Jerwin here, he might have a slim chance against the Takuma, but if the fight goes to distance, I will go and put my money on Inoue.

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Jerwin's only accomplishment at bantamweight is beating a journeyman on a 5 fight losing streak, yet somehow ends up getting an opportunity to fight for a title. We see once again that it's all about being well connected if you want to be a champion. Ancajas is a limited fighter but this is not the strongest division and Inoue is a beatable fighter. At this point another setback would be devastating but if he can win it would be interesting to see him against Alexandro Santiago who defeated Donaire a month ago.

I guess of all the rank boxers in WBA organization, only the name of Ancajas rings a bell. And perhaps they think that is not going to be the #1 rank boxer in their division will have the first crack at the champion, maybe someone lower like in the 5-6 ranks and that fits Ancajas.

To early for this champions to have unification fight though, yeah it's mostly the trend, but maybe organizations wanted their champions to defend their belts first before they allow the other champions of the other divisions. Not saying that they are not corrupt, but I think for me, it's better to defend it first within their body and see how strong their champions are.

Takuma Inoue just won his belt and so far there is no mandatory from the WBA to force him to fight the number 1 ranked. So this is just a voluntary defense of Takuma's belt. I am not sure about the WBA's voluntary defense ruling but most likely it's fine for a champion to defend his belt for as long as the opponent is in the top 10 or maybe top 20 depending on the organization. Maybe Ancajas is the only available fighter easy to negotiate and is willing to travel to Japan.

Ancajas was also dominated twice in his last title fights. But Ancajas was a long-time champion and had issues with his weight before moving up so it was probably taken into consideration by the sanctioning bodies. Jerwin Ancajas' last opponent and only fight at the division lost his last 7 fights and only won a single fight in his last 10 but it was enough for the former champion to enter the top 10 in the WBA and IBF rankings.

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Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on August 26, 2023, 09:11:49 PM

Jerwin's only accomplishment at bantamweight is beating a journeyman on a 5 fight losing streak, yet somehow ends up getting an opportunity to fight for a title. We see once again that it's all about being well connected if you want to be a champion. Ancajas is a limited fighter but this is not the strongest division and Inoue is a beatable fighter. At this point another setback would be devastating but if he can win it would be interesting to see him against Alexandro Santiago who defeated Donaire a month ago.

You got a point and it's not that new anymore in this industry because the boxers who got some connections can indeed pull some strings to fight against a much better name, a champion, even if they are still new in the division. But in this case, I think we can also make an exemption just like the other boxers because Ancajas isn't an ordinary boxer either, he just had one fight but that also proved that he's way better than them that is why he is now getting the chance to fight against the champion, which I think he got the upper hand as well.

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Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on August 26, 2023, 09:11:49 PM

Jerwin's only accomplishment at bantamweight is beating a journeyman on a 5 fight losing streak, yet somehow ends up getting an opportunity to fight for a title. We see once again that it's all about being well connected if you want to be a champion. Ancajas is a limited fighter but this is not the strongest division and Inoue is a beatable fighter. At this point another setback would be devastating but if he can win it would be interesting to see him against Alexandro Santiago who defeated Donaire a month ago.

I guess of all the rank boxers in WBA organization, only the name of Ancajas rings a bell. And perhaps they think that is not going to be the #1 rank boxer in their division will have the first crack at the champion, maybe someone lower like in the 5-6 ranks and that fits Ancajas.

To early for this champions to have unification fight though, yeah it's mostly the trend, but maybe organizations wanted their champions to defend their belts first before they allow the other champions of the other divisions. Not saying that they are not corrupt, but I think for me, it's better to defend it first within their body and see how strong their champions are.

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Jerwin's only accomplishment at bantamweight is beating a journeyman on a 5 fight losing streak, yet somehow ends up getting an opportunity to fight for a title. We see once again that it's all about being well connected if you want to be a champion. Ancajas is a limited fighter but this is not the strongest division and Inoue is a beatable fighter. At this point another setback would be devastating but if he can win it would be interesting to see him against Alexandro Santiago who defeated Donaire a month ago.

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