[Boxing]: Jerwin Ancajas vs Takuma Inoue - Nov 15 - page 9.

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Quote from: harizen on September 10, 2023, 06:28:28 PM

Quote from: Maslate on September 10, 2023, 08:46:07 AM

I'm not really viewing Takuma as a threat because he doesn't have that one punch like his brother does.

We should disregard Takuma Inoue being the younger brother of Naoya Inoue when it comes to analyzing the fight.

Instead, we can consider saying that Takuma might not be a threat to Ancajas because of;

a) fighting experience
b) not a Knock Out specialist
c) the WBO Bantamweight title he owned was vacant prior

But personally for me, threat or not, I don't want to think that Takuma Inoue should be an easy fight for Ancajas. He is now a champion and will defend his first-ever WBO Bantamweight title in front of his fellow countrymen. It will fuel more to unleash his best performance as a champion.

Yes, so there's a lot of the shoulders of Takuma Inoue right now. I mean his brother has set precedence in the bantamweight already and we can say that he might want to follow his brother path too to become undisputed by it will not be very easy.
Because in his first title defense, it will be against a former champion and have a good knockout power in Jerwin Ancajas.
And we all know that Jerwin has all the tools to become a world champion again. And so Takuma Inoue here might be in danger losing his first title defense.
Unless he really trains very hard, but then again, even if he is the brother of the Monster, he can't be help by him once the bells ring.
With that majority here might go with Ancajas to win and it will be impressive if he can score a knockout.

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Quote from: harizen on September 10, 2023, 06:28:28 PM

Quote from: Maslate on September 10, 2023, 08:46:07 AM

I'm not really viewing Takuma as a threat because he doesn't have that one punch like his brother does.

We should disregard Takuma Inoue being the younger brother of Naoya Inoue when it comes to analyzing the fight.

Instead, we can consider saying that Takuma might not be a threat to Ancajas because of;

a) fighting experience
b) not a Knock Out specialist
c) the WBO Bantamweight title he owned was vacant prior

But personally for me, threat or not, I don't want to think that Takuma Inoue should be an easy fight for Ancajas. He is now a champion and will defend his first-ever WBO Bantamweight title in front of his fellow countrymen. It will fuel more to unleash his best performance as a champion.

Right, weighing the options whom to bet while also thinking that Takuma got the name of an Inoue as he is the younger brother will somehow cloud our judgement and that will not help us in determining which player got more chances because having the Inoue name will somehow speak louder rather than knowing the real facts to give our bets a better chances.

Although, I couldn't help but think what does Takuma felt? I mean, people will always see him in Naoya's shadow because they both share the same name and people will always compare them because they are opposite. To say the truth, I know that it doesn't feel right but that is his reality as they are both in the same industry.

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Quote from: Maslate on September 10, 2023, 08:46:07 AM

I'm not really viewing Takuma as a threat because he doesn't have that one punch like his brother does.

We should disregard Takuma Inoue being the younger brother of Naoya Inoue when it comes to analyzing the fight.

Instead, we can consider saying that Takuma might not be a threat to Ancajas because of;

a) fighting experience
b) not a Knock Out specialist
c) the WBO Bantamweight title he owned was vacant prior

But personally for me, threat or not, I don't want to think that Takuma Inoue should be an easy fight for Ancajas. He is now a champion and will defend his first-ever WBO Bantamweight title in front of his fellow countrymen. It will fuel more to unleash his best performance as a champion.

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I would like to see Jerwin becoming champion again but I actually voted for Takuma by decision. Jerwin is going to get schooled if he is not bringing something new to his technique.

He faced two losses against the same opponent, Fernando Daniel Martinez. Given that Takumi's upcoming opponent might have a different fighting style, there might not be a pressing need for him to change his own style. Both camps will undoubtedly study their opponent and develop a strategy they believe will work best.

Honestly, I haven't observed anything particularly exceptional from Takumi, and despite Jerwin facing some challenges lately, I still believe he has what it takes to be victorious in this match.

In my opinion, this is a 50/50 fight. While I'll be betting on Ancajas, it's evident that most voters here are his supporters. However, it's important to note that this won't be an easy challenge for Ancajas, given that Inoue is the current champion and fighting in Japan. Although it's a long shot, I'm hoping that Ancajas will aim for a knockout victory. That would not only make him popular again but also potentially rejuvenate his career, which has seen some setbacks after two losses.

It's always a 50/50 fight because there are no guarantees that Jerwin will really upset the champion in this division, we should consider too that he is still relatively new while this Takuma has been around in the weight class much longer than him. Apart from that, aside from being a supporter, I try to be fair because my wager has nothing to do from being his supporter as I will always put money on the boxer which I think has more chances, and in this particular case, I'm siding with Jerwin because of his experience and I'm not really viewing Takuma as a threat because he doesn't have that one punch like his brother does.

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But here, in this new weight class, it's not all about the power, it's going to be a thinking game as well. Like you said, Takuma is not well known for his power and yet he has won the belt. Because he has that intelligent and hopefully the camp of Ancajas will have a good game plan here, otherwise it will be Ancajas 3rd lost in 4th fight which is not good for the former champion.

It's a new journey for Ancajas, and he should forget his losses and simply learn from them. He should strive to win the belt currently held by Takuma, as if I'm not mistaken, the Philippines doesn't have a world champion anymore. Losing this fight won't help his future, as if he keeps losing, opportunities will keep fading as well. So personally, I'm rooting for him to win and betting on him as well. It's a tough situation, considering this fight will happen on the home court of the champion. Ancajas needs to be impressive so that judges would award him the win in case no one goes down.

I think he has already move up about his back to back loses already. In fact he already won via knockout in his last fight that's why he has been given the first crack for the belt that Takuma got when his brother Naoya vacated the belt.

Of course, majority is rooting for Ancajas to win, we want him to get back on track and become a champion again. He used to be the champion at 115 lbs and he has dominated it for years. And hopefully when bantamweight is open now, we might see a lot of fighters really getting into the position and perhaps another unification fight in the future.

We would love to see unification fights in the future, as they are more entertaining compared to championship fights where one is a challenger. Inoue started it, even winning the undisputed fight, so hopefully, every champion will follow suit and not be afraid to risk their belt, even if they think their fellow champion could potentially beat them. This is a competition, and in order to gain recognition, one has to fight the best.

Every boxer wanted to get all the belts, specially now that we have the modern 4 belt era, that's for sure.
The problem though is that the promotion or the manager will have to settle a lot of things with the organizations that we already concluded that they are corrupt because promotions can simply pay and have their boxers goes for unification.
But it's very hard after you have won all the belts because there could be mandatory fight that might sit well with the schedule of boxers.
Just like what Josh Taylor did or even Inoue, they have vacated the belts and in the case of Josh Taylor he just got like 1 or 2 belts but he lost it already against Teo Lopez.

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But here, in this new weight class, it's not all about the power, it's going to be a thinking game as well. Like you said, Takuma is not well known for his power and yet he has won the belt. Because he has that intelligent and hopefully the camp of Ancajas will have a good game plan here, otherwise it will be Ancajas 3rd lost in 4th fight which is not good for the former champion.

It's a new journey for Ancajas, and he should forget his losses and simply learn from them. He should strive to win the belt currently held by Takuma, as if I'm not mistaken, the Philippines doesn't have a world champion anymore. Losing this fight won't help his future, as if he keeps losing, opportunities will keep fading as well. So personally, I'm rooting for him to win and betting on him as well. It's a tough situation, considering this fight will happen on the home court of the champion. Ancajas needs to be impressive so that judges would award him the win in case no one goes down.

I think he has already move up about his back to back loses already. In fact he already won via knockout in his last fight that's why he has been given the first crack for the belt that Takuma got when his brother Naoya vacated the belt.

Of course, majority is rooting for Ancajas to win, we want him to get back on track and become a champion again. He used to be the champion at 115 lbs and he has dominated it for years. And hopefully when bantamweight is open now, we might see a lot of fighters really getting into the position and perhaps another unification fight in the future.

We would love to see unification fights in the future, as they are more entertaining compared to championship fights where one is a challenger. Inoue started it, even winning the undisputed fight, so hopefully, every champion will follow suit and not be afraid to risk their belt, even if they think their fellow champion could potentially beat them. This is a competition, and in order to gain recognition, one has to fight the best.

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Quote from: Distinctin on September 09, 2023, 01:28:47 PM

Quote from: Baofeng on September 08, 2023, 12:50:18 PM

But here, in this new weight class, it's not all about the power, it's going to be a thinking game as well. Like you said, Takuma is not well known for his power and yet he has won the belt. Because he has that intelligent and hopefully the camp of Ancajas will have a good game plan here, otherwise it will be Ancajas 3rd lost in 4th fight which is not good for the former champion.

It's a new journey for Ancajas, and he should forget his losses and simply learn from them. He should strive to win the belt currently held by Takuma, as if I'm not mistaken, the Philippines doesn't have a world champion anymore. Losing this fight won't help his future, as if he keeps losing, opportunities will keep fading as well. So personally, I'm rooting for him to win and betting on him as well. It's a tough situation, considering this fight will happen on the home court of the champion. Ancajas needs to be impressive so that judges would award him the win in case no one goes down.

I think he has already move up about his back to back loses already. In fact he already won via knockout in his last fight that's why he has been given the first crack for the belt that Takuma got when his brother Naoya vacated the belt.

Of course, majority is rooting for Ancajas to win, we want him to get back on track and become a champion again. He used to be the champion at 115 lbs and he has dominated it for years. And hopefully when bantamweight is open now, we might see a lot of fighters really getting into the position and perhaps another unification fight in the future.

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Quote from: Baofeng on September 08, 2023, 12:50:18 PM

But here, in this new weight class, it's not all about the power, it's going to be a thinking game as well. Like you said, Takuma is not well known for his power and yet he has won the belt. Because he has that intelligent and hopefully the camp of Ancajas will have a good game plan here, otherwise it will be Ancajas 3rd lost in 4th fight which is not good for the former champion.

It's a new journey for Ancajas, and he should forget his losses and simply learn from them. He should strive to win the belt currently held by Takuma, as if I'm not mistaken, the Philippines doesn't have a world champion anymore. Losing this fight won't help his future, as if he keeps losing, opportunities will keep fading as well. So personally, I'm rooting for him to win and betting on him as well. It's a tough situation, considering this fight will happen on the home court of the champion. Ancajas needs to be impressive so that judges would award him the win in case no one goes down.

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I would like to see Jerwin becoming champion again but I actually voted for Takuma by decision. Jerwin is going to get schooled if he is not bringing something new to his technique.

He faced two losses against the same opponent, Fernando Daniel Martinez. Given that Takumi's upcoming opponent might have a different fighting style, there might not be a pressing need for him to change his own style. Both camps will undoubtedly study their opponent and develop a strategy they believe will work best.

Honestly, I haven't observed anything particularly exceptional from Takumi, and despite Jerwin facing some challenges lately, I still believe he has what it takes to be victorious in this match.

It's quite too late for Jerwin Ancajas to learn a new technique just to increase his chances against Takuma Inoue and to the other guys in this weight class, as they say, you cannot teach the olds dogs to learn some new tricks. I say that Jerwin will stick to what he knows and will just study Takuma even further to increase his chances rather than perfecting a new technique that doesn't even guarantee anything, instead, it will put him to a risk because he's not even accustomed to it.

I guess not new technique, but some fighting style, as we have seen him falling in love with his one punch knockout that they change the fight on his favor. But Takuma is more of a boxer, not a brawler type so it will be a contrasting clash of styles between the two.

And with that, if Jerwin, will rely on his power, it might take him the full twelve rounds just to land that one solid punch. So at least adjust his style with the type of fight that Takuma will offer to him.

I agree and furthermore, it's kind of risky for him too if he will use the same style which he is known for when he was still in the lower weight class as I think that it's one of the few reasons why he lost twice against Martinez because he did let himself to be an open book to the opposing camp.

And in this case, we can assume already that Takuma is also working to counter those style because even if that might be predictable already but it's still deadly if he will get himself hit by it. And what Ancajas needed to do right now is to be versatile enough so that he won't be predicted that easily specially in this case where he has an advantage.

Right, as I have said, fighters should mature after their first or even second lost. They will have to understand that it's not always Plan A for them. There are different scenarios that Ancajas should be ready in the second fight against Martinez but nothing has change.

But here, in this new weight class, it's not all about the power, it's going to be a thinking game as well. Like you said, Takuma is not well known for his power and yet he has won the belt. Because he has that intelligent and hopefully the camp of Ancajas will have a good game plan here, otherwise it will be Ancajas 3rd lost in 4th fight which is not good for the former champion.

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I would like to see Jerwin becoming champion again but I actually voted for Takuma by decision. Jerwin is going to get schooled if he is not bringing something new to his technique.

He faced two losses against the same opponent, Fernando Daniel Martinez. Given that Takumi's upcoming opponent might have a different fighting style, there might not be a pressing need for him to change his own style. Both camps will undoubtedly study their opponent and develop a strategy they believe will work best.

Honestly, I haven't observed anything particularly exceptional from Takumi, and despite Jerwin facing some challenges lately, I still believe he has what it takes to be victorious in this match.

It's quite too late for Jerwin Ancajas to learn a new technique just to increase his chances against Takuma Inoue and to the other guys in this weight class, as they say, you cannot teach the olds dogs to learn some new tricks. I say that Jerwin will stick to what he knows and will just study Takuma even further to increase his chances rather than perfecting a new technique that doesn't even guarantee anything, instead, it will put him to a risk because he's not even accustomed to it.

I guess not new technique, but some fighting style, as we have seen him falling in love with his one punch knockout that they change the fight on his favor. But Takuma is more of a boxer, not a brawler type so it will be a contrasting clash of styles between the two.

And with that, if Jerwin, will rely on his power, it might take him the full twelve rounds just to land that one solid punch. So at least adjust his style with the type of fight that Takuma will offer to him.

I agree and furthermore, it's kind of risky for him too if he will use the same style which he is known for when he was still in the lower weight class as I think that it's one of the few reasons why he lost twice against Martinez because he did let himself to be an open book to the opposing camp.

And in this case, we can assume already that Takuma is also working to counter those style because even if that might be predictable already but it's still deadly if he will get himself hit by it. And what Ancajas needed to do right now is to be versatile enough so that he won't be predicted that easily specially in this case where he has an advantage.

Yes, I guess those two losses against Martinez is already a wake up call for Ancajas to somewhat not just rely on his power but be versatile and learn to adjust to the strengths and weakness of his opponents.

If his opponents shows strength let's say in counter and in defense, then Ancajas shouldn't be the aggressive. If he found a loophole and weaknesses to his opponents then he should take advantage of it and then get the win. So for sure fans of Ancajas are very excited about this fight because they might think that he has a good chance to win against the brother of Naoya even if the fight is in Japan.

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I would like to see Jerwin becoming champion again but I actually voted for Takuma by decision. Jerwin is going to get schooled if he is not bringing something new to his technique.

He faced two losses against the same opponent, Fernando Daniel Martinez. Given that Takumi's upcoming opponent might have a different fighting style, there might not be a pressing need for him to change his own style. Both camps will undoubtedly study their opponent and develop a strategy they believe will work best.

Honestly, I haven't observed anything particularly exceptional from Takumi, and despite Jerwin facing some challenges lately, I still believe he has what it takes to be victorious in this match.

It's quite too late for Jerwin Ancajas to learn a new technique just to increase his chances against Takuma Inoue and to the other guys in this weight class, as they say, you cannot teach the olds dogs to learn some new tricks. I say that Jerwin will stick to what he knows and will just study Takuma even further to increase his chances rather than perfecting a new technique that doesn't even guarantee anything, instead, it will put him to a risk because he's not even accustomed to it.

I guess not new technique, but some fighting style, as we have seen him falling in love with his one punch knockout that they change the fight on his favor. But Takuma is more of a boxer, not a brawler type so it will be a contrasting clash of styles between the two.

And with that, if Jerwin, will rely on his power, it might take him the full twelve rounds just to land that one solid punch. So at least adjust his style with the type of fight that Takuma will offer to him.

I agree and furthermore, it's kind of risky for him too if he will use the same style which he is known for when he was still in the lower weight class as I think that it's one of the few reasons why he lost twice against Martinez because he did let himself to be an open book to the opposing camp.

And in this case, we can assume already that Takuma is also working to counter those style because even if that might be predictable already but it's still deadly if he will get himself hit by it. And what Ancajas needed to do right now is to be versatile enough so that he won't be predicted that easily specially in this case where he has an advantage.

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I guess not new technique, but some fighting style, as we have seen him falling in love with his one punch knockout that they change the fight on his favor. But Takuma is more of a boxer, not a brawler type so it will be a contrasting clash of styles between the two.

And with that, if Jerwin, will rely on his power, it might take him the full twelve rounds just to land that one solid punch. So at least adjust his style with the type of fight that Takuma will offer to him.

Inoue will be my opinion in this game,because the punch of the Inoue was power punch compared to the Jerwin.It was true some other people support on the Jerwin,but my opinion will be same.The style of game also unique to the Inoue as compared to hi opponent of this match.The Knockout style of the Inoue was unique compared to the Jerwin Ancajas.If the Inoue give some time to his opponent,the Jerwin should use the chance to get some points.The Jerwin only can try the match with the points,because the knockout is not the possible one in the Inoue match.Inoue had the strongest record in the KO.

You are probably referring to his brother Naoya Inoue who is a KO puncher, this fight is for Jerwin Ancajas vs Takuma Inoue (check the thread title) and looking at the boxrec, Takuma is not a KO artist as he only has 4 KO wins in 18 fights, compared to Jerwin Ancajas who has 23 KO wins in 34 fights.

He might've thought that we're discussing Naoya in the name of Inoue because no doubt that he is the one whom the people mostly know and not his younger brother, Takuma.

Anyway, what you've said is the perfect reason why Jerwin Ancajas got some edge and upper hand in this fight because aside from evident gap in experience between the two of them, it seems to me that Takuma is way too early in fighting the likes of Jerwin. I don't mean to underestimate but Takuma is not Naoya, and we already know what will likely happen even though Takuma is the champion here.

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I guess not new technique, but some fighting style, as we have seen him falling in love with his one punch knockout that they change the fight on his favor. But Takuma is more of a boxer, not a brawler type so it will be a contrasting clash of styles between the two.

And with that, if Jerwin, will rely on his power, it might take him the full twelve rounds just to land that one solid punch. So at least adjust his style with the type of fight that Takuma will offer to him.

Inoue will be my opinion in this game,because the punch of the Inoue was power punch compared to the Jerwin.It was true some other people support on the Jerwin,but my opinion will be same.The style of game also unique to the Inoue as compared to hi opponent of this match.The Knockout style of the Inoue was unique compared to the Jerwin Ancajas.If the Inoue give some time to his opponent,the Jerwin should use the chance to get some points.The Jerwin only can try the match with the points,because the knockout is not the possible one in the Inoue match.Inoue had the strongest record in the KO.

You are probably referring to his brother Naoya Inoue who is a KO puncher, this fight is for Jerwin Ancajas vs Takuma Inoue (check the thread title) and looking at the boxrec, Takuma is not a KO artist as he only has 4 KO wins in 18 fights, compared to Jerwin Ancajas who has 23 KO wins in 34 fights.

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Quote from: Baofeng on September 06, 2023, 05:35:44 PM

I guess not new technique, but some fighting style, as we have seen him falling in love with his one punch knockout that they change the fight on his favor. But Takuma is more of a boxer, not a brawler type so it will be a contrasting clash of styles between the two.

And with that, if Jerwin, will rely on his power, it might take him the full twelve rounds just to land that one solid punch. So at least adjust his style with the type of fight that Takuma will offer to him.

Inoue will be my opinion in this game,because the punch of the Inoue was power punch compared to the Jerwin.It was true some other people support on the Jerwin,but my opinion will be same.The style of game also unique to the Inoue as compared to hi opponent of this match.The Knockout style of the Inoue was unique compared to the Jerwin Ancajas.If the Inoue give some time to his opponent,the Jerwin should use the chance to get some points.The Jerwin only can try the match with the points,because the knockout is not the possible one in the Inoue match.Inoue had the strongest record in the KO.

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I would like to see Jerwin becoming champion again but I actually voted for Takuma by decision. Jerwin is going to get schooled if he is not bringing something new to his technique.

He faced two losses against the same opponent, Fernando Daniel Martinez. Given that Takumi's upcoming opponent might have a different fighting style, there might not be a pressing need for him to change his own style. Both camps will undoubtedly study their opponent and develop a strategy they believe will work best.

Honestly, I haven't observed anything particularly exceptional from Takumi, and despite Jerwin facing some challenges lately, I still believe he has what it takes to be victorious in this match.

It's quite too late for Jerwin Ancajas to learn a new technique just to increase his chances against Takuma Inoue and to the other guys in this weight class, as they say, you cannot teach the olds dogs to learn some new tricks. I say that Jerwin will stick to what he knows and will just study Takuma even further to increase his chances rather than perfecting a new technique that doesn't even guarantee anything, instead, it will put him to a risk because he's not even accustomed to it.

I guess not new technique, but some fighting style, as we have seen him falling in love with his one punch knockout that they change the fight on his favor. But Takuma is more of a boxer, not a brawler type so it will be a contrasting clash of styles between the two.

And with that, if Jerwin, will rely on his power, it might take him the full twelve rounds just to land that one solid punch. So at least adjust his style with the type of fight that Takuma will offer to him.

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I would like to see Jerwin becoming champion again but I actually voted for Takuma by decision. Jerwin is going to get schooled if he is not bringing something new to his technique.

He faced two losses against the same opponent, Fernando Daniel Martinez. Given that Takumi's upcoming opponent might have a different fighting style, there might not be a pressing need for him to change his own style. Both camps will undoubtedly study their opponent and develop a strategy they believe will work best.

Honestly, I haven't observed anything particularly exceptional from Takumi, and despite Jerwin facing some challenges lately, I still believe he has what it takes to be victorious in this match.

It's quite too late for Jerwin Ancajas to learn a new technique just to increase his chances against Takuma Inoue and to the other guys in this weight class, as they say, you cannot teach the olds dogs to learn some new tricks. I say that Jerwin will stick to what he knows and will just study Takuma even further to increase his chances rather than perfecting a new technique that doesn't even guarantee anything, instead, it will put him to a risk because he's not even accustomed to it.

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Quote from: goldkingcoiner on September 01, 2023, 10:29:22 AM

The japanese culture, as well as boxxing culture is based on honor. I very much doubt that the judges would vote in favor of the japanese fighter just because he is japanese, if that is indeed what you are implying (I might be misunderstanding you?). So if they were to make such a vote, it would be very clear to the rest of the boxxing community and it would bring great dishonor upon them. Dishonor is something that the Japanese avoid at all costs. So I am feeling quite safe with the judges decisions.

Either way the fight will definitely be very interesting and hard-fought. And the score will probably reflect that.

While these are mere rumors and speculations, it's hard not to consider the notion that when a boxer fights in their home country, they are more likely to win. This belief stems from past instances, such as the Pacquiao-Horn fight in Australia, which many viewed as controversial, possibly influenced by hometown bias. The situation in Japan might be different, but it does raise questions.

One potential reason why some might suspect bias is the fact that Inoue (Takuma's brother), despite being a champion and highly popular, has predominantly chosen to fight in Japan rather than exploring opportunities in the US for a larger audience.

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Looks like Jerwin Ancajas by decision is the majority vote with over 52%, including my very own vote. But I while think its reasonable to believe this, I would love to know everyone else's opinion on why exactly they think a Jewin Ancajas by KO is much less likely. Is it because Takuma Inoue has only known to have been KO'd only once in his career, by Nordine Oubaali? Or is it because he has only lost once? Huh

Sure Takuma might be tough but a punch from Jerwin is no joke. I think the chance of a KO should be higher than the polls are currently reflecting. Not as high as a by decision but still quite much higher.

Jerwin was IBF junior bantam weight title holder and most of the opinion in this game was Jerwin.With your words already the fifty percentage of vote was crossed,so the percentage of vote was favour the Jerwin.The maximum KO was made by the young and efficient Jerwin as compared to the Japanese player Inoue.This match going to decide whether the Japanese player or Philippines player to win this match.The power puncher Jerwin will face the hard puncher Inoue in this match.Most probably the match end before the complete of 5 rounds by the KO,this was the unique style of Jerwin in most of the match.

It is less likely that Jerwin Ancajas will score a knockout because Takuma Inoue is a smart boxer with very good stamina since nearly all of his fights went the distance. Takuma is not known to punch that hard reason why he only has 4 KOs in his 18 wins. And by the way, Takuma's only defeat was by decision and not by knockout so we shall see if Jerwin is capable of catching him clean.

I would like to see Jerwin becoming champion again but I actually voted for Takuma by decision. Jerwin is going to get schooled if he is not bringing something new to his technique.

Yes, we are going to support Jerwin here although he could be at a disadvantage because the fight is in Japan and he could lose to the judges scorecard. So what he needs to do is to win by knockout and he should try to do that and not let the judges score the fight.

The japanese culture, as well as boxxing culture is based on honor. I very much doubt that the judges would vote in favor of the japanese fighter just because he is japanese, if that is indeed what you are implying (I might be misunderstanding you?). So if they were to make such a vote, it would be very clear to the rest of the boxxing community and it would bring great dishonor upon them. Dishonor is something that the Japanese avoid at all costs. So I am feeling quite safe with the judges decisions.

Either way the fight will definitely be very interesting and hard-fought. And the score will probably reflect that.

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I would like to see Jerwin becoming champion again but I actually voted for Takuma by decision. Jerwin is going to get schooled if he is not bringing something new to his technique.

He faced two losses against the same opponent, Fernando Daniel Martinez. Given that Takumi's upcoming opponent might have a different fighting style, there might not be a pressing need for him to change his own style. Both camps will undoubtedly study their opponent and develop a strategy they believe will work best.

Honestly, I haven't observed anything particularly exceptional from Takumi, and despite Jerwin facing some challenges lately, I still believe he has what it takes to be victorious in this match.

In my opinion, this is a 50/50 fight. While I'll be betting on Ancajas, it's evident that most voters here are his supporters. However, it's important to note that this won't be an easy challenge for Ancajas, given that Inoue is the current champion and fighting in Japan. Although it's a long shot, I'm hoping that Ancajas will aim for a knockout victory. That would not only make him popular again but also potentially rejuvenate his career, which has seen some setbacks after two losses.

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That is really the big issue with Jerwin when he lost the belt the first time, not sure though why they insists on a rematch since he can no longer make the weight class and obviously his body is getting bigger.

Maybe before, not confident enough to climb at 118 pounds when there were lots of strong contenders during that time.

Just my guess though why he decided to just stay at 115 and we know what happened later on. It's good for me to see him being defeated at the hands of Fernando Martinez, not once but twice, for him to recognize that they need to get out from that division he reigned for a long and consider stepping up another challenge on his career. Being a contender now at one of the belts at 118, I'm sure he won't have any weight problems now. Previously in his last fight in June, he weighed around 121 lbs during his fight against Wilner Soto which he got a knockout win.

We can assume that Ancajas' comfort weight now is between 118 to 122.

Team Ancajas were very confident about moving up in weight after the first defeat. They said they are moving up in weight. I don't know why the change of decisions. But it is indeed very tough to decide since they have a rematch clause on Fernando Martinez. So the final decision was to activate the rematch clause against Martinez and then move up in weight. Should Ancajas won in that rematch, he would've probably gotten ranked in the top 5 of these sanctioning bodies since he moved up in weight as a champion. He lost the rematch but he is lucky that 2 of the sanctioning bodies still ranked him in the top 10.

I really want to see something new in Ancajas' strategies this time, otherwise, Takuma Inoue will outbox him for the 12 rounds.

I'm also thinking the same, instead of the rematch, they should have make the move on going up to 118 when it was still one of the hottest weight class because of Naoya Inoue, but they chooses a rematch and so they lost again.

I'm thinking what will be the new strategy for Ancajas though, I mean he fell in love with his power. However, when it is not hitting the target or at least the target doesn't have any effect on his power, he doesn't have plan B. Will he go technical this time and try to outbox Takuma here but just moving around and try to counter at best?

My best guess is that he remained in that division because he had been a champion for quite a long time and became accustomed to the fact that he almost forgot that it's time for him to move up until he fought Martinez and lost twice, that became his eye opener that his time at super fly was already finished and it's time for him to move-on and try the next weight class, which is the 118.

Now that he is facing an Inoue, I think he have a good chance to upset the champion because of his experience that he attained overtime at 115.

Or maybe he doesn't want to move up, because there are a lot of Filipinos out there, Casimero (WBO champion), Nonito Donaire (WBC champion). And so he remains for a while at 115 lbs but as we have said, after his defeat it's time for him to move up.

And now that Donaire lost his championship fight and then Casimero moving up in weight, it's a good time for the former champion to go up at 118 lbs. And be lucky to have the first crack at the belt of Takuma Inoue.

Since you brought that up, I think that is indeed the case why Ancajas didn't move up much earlier because the division was already stacked up with Filipino boxer and so he doesn't want to add to the competition because he also represents the very same flag. There's no use in comparing because he also got some skills to show-off, it's just that he chose to remain at 115 so that there can be another Filipino champion and he really made it.

Now that both Casimero and Donaire is out of the equation (I ruled out Donaire because unfortunately, I don't think that he still have the time), it's his time to shine and to be the Filipino boxer to gets represent at 118 and I'd say that he might be a champion before this year ends.

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