[Boxing]: Jerwin Ancajas vs Takuma Inoue - Nov 15 - page 6.

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As to the betting odds which he is the underdog, I think that's okay, it's justifiable since he is the challenger and the fight is held in Japan. Of course, I wouldn't be questioning that, I love him as the underdog as I'm betting on him to win. Good luck to him, hopefully we will see another Filipino champion soon.

He is what we term, live underdog, he might be 3:1, but that is good for us gambling bettors. It might be a motivation for him seeing that he is a underdog to a boxer that we think that he has a good chance to beat and then win the belt again.

Of course he should be motivated as he wants to become a champion. He lose his belt and now given this opportunity, isn't it what a champ would want that they will come back at the top again? But being 3:1 underdog, I doubt he cares about that, it's only for us gamblers and we bet on the underdog not just because of its potential payout but most importantly we believe that Ancajas has a decent chance of beating Takuma Inoue.

Most boxers especially the champions or used to be a champion does not underestimate their opponent, they train hard because they understand that one mistake could change the game. For example here, if Inoue will not train hard because he underestimated Ancajas, most likely he will lose because the challenger is very motivated to get his belt. Once a boxer becomes a champion, it will also open a lot of opportunities for him, more fights means more money, and that's why boxers are after of, aside from legacy in boxing which can only be achieve if a boxer is extraordinary like Takuma's brother.

I wasnt able to track or wary about on how Takuma Inoue on which on the time i did make out some research on
https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/667667 Then it do really shows that this man had already 18W-1L with have small TKO percentage on which this do really shows that he isnt having that much
compared into his older brother Naoya but still 18 wins with having 1 defeat isnt something that you could really be that confident on dealing with on which we know
that its still dangerous for Ancajas to be that being careless.

I have seen Takuma had lost to Nordine Oubaali in 2019 but well he did able to patch it up into further more wins. As a champion then of course
belittling you opponent would really be that imposing such risks and it isnt something that would really be recommended for someone to do so.
Good thing that this fight had been pushed through now despite of that postponement.

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As to the betting odds which he is the underdog, I think that's okay, it's justifiable since he is the challenger and the fight is held in Japan. Of course, I wouldn't be questioning that, I love him as the underdog as I'm betting on him to win. Good luck to him, hopefully we will see another Filipino champion soon.

He is what we term, live underdog, he might be 3:1, but that is good for us gambling bettors. It might be a motivation for him seeing that he is a underdog to a boxer that we think that he has a good chance to beat and then win the belt again.

Of course he should be motivated as he wants to become a champion. He lose his belt and now given this opportunity, isn't it what a champ would want that they will come back at the top again? But being 3:1 underdog, I doubt he cares about that, it's only for us gamblers and we bet on the underdog not just because of its potential payout but most importantly we believe that Ancajas has a decent chance of beating Takuma Inoue.

Most boxers especially the champions or used to be a champion does not underestimate their opponent, they train hard because they understand that one mistake could change the game. For example here, if Inoue will not train hard because he underestimated Ancajas, most likely he will lose because the challenger is very motivated to get his belt. Once a boxer becomes a champion, it will also open a lot of opportunities for him, more fights means more money, and that's why boxers are after of, aside from legacy in boxing which can only be achieve if a boxer is extraordinary like Takuma's brother.

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As to the betting odds which he is the underdog, I think that's okay, it's justifiable since he is the challenger and the fight is held in Japan. Of course, I wouldn't be questioning that, I love him as the underdog as I'm betting on him to win. Good luck to him, hopefully we will see another Filipino champion soon.

He is what we term, live underdog, he might be 3:1, but that is good for us gambling bettors. It might be a motivation for him seeing that he is a underdog to a boxer that we think that he has a good chance to beat and then win the belt again.

Of course he should be motivated as he wants to become a champion. He lose his belt and now given this opportunity, isn't it what a champ would want that they will come back at the top again? But being 3:1 underdog, I doubt he cares about that, it's only for us gamblers and we bet on the underdog not just because of its potential payout but most importantly we believe that Ancajas has a decent chance of beating Takuma Inoue.

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Quote from: Maslate on January 31, 2024, 11:50:54 PM

Quote from: Baofeng on January 31, 2024, 05:36:50 PM

The fight is back-on, new schedule is February 24. It was cancelled in November as Takuma Inoue suffered a rib injury. But he has fully healed now and has pushed for a February date with our very own Ancajas.

Do you think that the long wait might affect Ancajas in negative or positive?

Jerwin is still the underdog in this fight, almost 3:1.

I'm glad to know that this fight is finally happening again. About the chance of Ancajas, I think it's still the same, he knows how important this fight is, it's a championship fight and a win here is going to put him as champion again.

Yes, I thought that this fight is not going to moved or progress, but it takes months for the wait and I think it will do good for Jerwin overall. As he might enjoy his holidays with his family back in the Philippines and then train hard again in the next coming 8 weeks for this fight. Right, a championship fight and so he will give everything he had, as he was once a champion and he knows what it feels and become a one again.

Quote from: Maslate on January 31, 2024, 11:50:54 PM

As to the betting odds which he is the underdog, I think that's okay, it's justifiable since he is the challenger and the fight is held in Japan. Of course, I wouldn't be questioning that, I love him as the underdog as I'm betting on him to win. Good luck to him, hopefully we will see another Filipino champion soon.

He is what we term, live underdog, he might be 3:1, but that is good for us gambling bettors. It might be a motivation for him seeing that he is a underdog to a boxer that we think that he has a good chance to beat and then win the belt again.

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By the way, are there any market aside from the 3;1 odds for Ancajas? Market like KO win in rounds ranges?

There's no other market for now, you can check from time to time here https://duelbits.com/sportsbook/boxing/match/46299231-Inoue-Takuma-vs-Ancajas-Jerwin.....That's from duelbets, not sure if other bookies have more markets but I doubt since they have few odds provider, so it's probably almost the same. It's still too early though, and it's not a major fight although a championship fight, check back a week before the fight, for sure you will see the markets you are looking for.

Although it's a championship fight but it's not a popular fight, it's usual that we only see the full market within a week, some events are only available a day before the fight. There's plenty of sportsbook you can check, maybe others would offer early as not all have the same odds provider. Regardless though, if you are betting on Ancajas to win, I think at this current moneyline odds, it should already make you bet.

As to KO possibilities, you might get x4 or even x5 betting on Ancajas since he doesn't have a high KO rate. As his record shows, he had 23 KO in 34 fights, that's 67% KO rate.

and also the delay of the fight affected the excitement of the bettor as it was couple of months delayed ,But at least it is good that there is Duelbits that provide betting options
and about KO , in their capacity and records i think this will be a decision game and not for a KnockOut .

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Quote from: Distinctin on February 01, 2024, 09:35:29 AM

Quote from: Hypnosis00 on February 01, 2024, 09:12:41 AM

By the way, are there any market aside from the 3;1 odds for Ancajas? Market like KO win in rounds ranges?

There's no other market for now, you can check from time to time here https://duelbits.com/sportsbook/boxing/match/46299231-Inoue-Takuma-vs-Ancajas-Jerwin.....That's from duelbets, not sure if other bookies have more markets but I doubt since they have few odds provider, so it's probably almost the same. It's still too early though, and it's not a major fight although a championship fight, check back a week before the fight, for sure you will see the markets you are looking for.

Although it's a championship fight but it's not a popular fight, it's usual that we only see the full market within a week, some events are only available a day before the fight. There's plenty of sportsbook you can check, maybe others would offer early as not all have the same odds provider. Regardless though, if you are betting on Ancajas to win, I think at this current moneyline odds, it should already make you bet.

As to KO possibilities, you might get x4 or even x5 betting on Ancajas since he doesn't have a high KO rate. As his record shows, he had 23 KO in 34 fights, that's 67% KO rate.

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on February 01, 2024, 09:12:41 AM

Quote from: Baofeng on January 31, 2024, 05:36:50 PM

Jerwin is still the underdog in this fight, almost 3:1.

I really like the betting odds here. Takuma Inoue is a great match up for Ancajas because if the latter will win, he will become popular again and as bettor getting 3:1 odds, this is a no-brainer. Less than a month and we will eventually witnessed a fight that was postponed due to Inoue's injury, but since it's already announce it's likely to be the final date, so start putting our bets now.

By the way, are there any market aside from the 3;1 odds for Ancajas? Market like KO win in rounds ranges?

Not yet, market are still ML as initially listed. This is how crypto based casino are, in the beginning they will just list the fight as per ML, not unless there is hype on this fight, maybe from welterweight to super to heavyweight as this division have a lot of great boxers. But unfortunately, for lower weights, all the odds might be listed on the day of the fight itself. So if you wanted to beat on round ranges or exact rounds, you will have to wait and check the odds regularly. But for us who are fans of Ancajas, having him as a huge underdog, ML would be suffice as we don't have to wait on how he is going to win, as long as he can win by KO/stoppage or thru the judges scorecard that ML bet will be good to us.

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on February 01, 2024, 09:12:41 AM

By the way, are there any market aside from the 3;1 odds for Ancajas? Market like KO win in rounds ranges?

There's no other market for now, you can check from time to time here https://duelbits.com/sportsbook/boxing/match/46299231-Inoue-Takuma-vs-Ancajas-Jerwin.....That's from duelbets, not sure if other bookies have more markets but I doubt since they have few odds provider, so it's probably almost the same. It's still too early though, and it's not a major fight although a championship fight, check back a week before the fight, for sure you will see the markets you are looking for.

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Quote from: Baofeng on January 31, 2024, 05:36:50 PM

Jerwin is still the underdog in this fight, almost 3:1.

I really like the betting odds here. Takuma Inoue is a great match up for Ancajas because if the latter will win, he will become popular again and as bettor getting 3:1 odds, this is a no-brainer. Less than a month and we will eventually witnessed a fight that was postponed due to Inoue's injury, but since it's already announce it's likely to be the final date, so start putting our bets now.

By the way, are there any market aside from the 3;1 odds for Ancajas? Market like KO win in rounds ranges?

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Quote from: Baofeng on January 31, 2024, 05:36:50 PM

The fight is back-on, new schedule is February 24. It was cancelled in November as Takuma Inoue suffered a rib injury. But he has fully healed now and has pushed for a February date with our very own Ancajas.

Do you think that the long wait might affect Ancajas in negative or positive?

Jerwin is still the underdog in this fight, almost 3:1.

I'm glad to know that this fight is finally happening again. About the chance of Ancajas, I think it's still the same, he knows how important this fight is, it's a championship fight and a win here is going to put him as champion again.

As to the betting odds which he is the underdog, I think that's okay, it's justifiable since he is the challenger and the fight is held in Japan. Of course, I wouldn't be questioning that, I love him as the underdog as I'm betting on him to win. Good luck to him, hopefully we will see another Filipino champion soon.

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The fight is back-on, new schedule is February 24. It was cancelled in November as Takuma Inoue suffered a rib injury. But he has fully healed now and has pushed for a February date with our very own Ancajas.

Do you think that the long wait might affect Ancajas in negative or positive?

Jerwin is still the underdog in this fight, almost 3:1.

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Quote from: goinmerry on October 28, 2023, 06:18:07 PM

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Quote from: Viscore on October 28, 2023, 10:38:26 AM

I also read the news, and it's really disappointing. The same thing happened to his brother during his fight against Stephen Fulton; he also suffered an injury, so the fight was postponed.

@Baofeng You're right; it looks like it won't happen this year, probably early next year. Since it's a championship fight, Jerwin has no choice but to wait until it finally takes place. But don't worry, guys, there's still a fight between Inoue and Tapales before the year ends, so that should be enough to entertain us in the last month of the year.

I don't understand though that they are so sloppy to let this happen, I mean it's only sparring, and why his sparring partner targeted his body that much to cause any injury? Doesn't make sense. Of course, they train hard 100% every day in the gym, but if this kind of injuries can be avoided in preparation of the fight, the better.

I can't call that "ONLY" sparring and being sloppy. Didn't you know that in Japan, boxers are giving their very best even at sparring or just a simple day workout so that in the actual boxing, their body will only be used to moving the way they used to be in training and even more boost? The fact that they got injured while sparring means they are actually taking that sparring seriously and not taking it lightly.

That's the reason why even Takuma's brother, Naoya Inoue, also got injured during his preparation against Stephen Fulton.

As per the report, it's a rib injury therefore he might push his body aggressively on that training and not just he just want to test his endurance.

I understand that, but @Jating does have a point. Boxing is pure entertainment, and it's very frustrating to know that the fight you've been eagerly anticipating is postponed. While it's normal for postponements to occur, boxers should take extra care to ensure that the fight happens as scheduled. I somewhat consider it a bit of carelessness. After all, it's a sparring fight, not a real one, so they shouldn't be giving it their all. If other boxers can avoid injuries during training, it's definitely doable, so why does it keep happenned to both brothers?

Quote from: goinmerry on October 28, 2023, 06:18:07 PM

It's an advantage for Jerwin Ancajas too to fully prepared for the fight. He should be much in condition on the day of the fight unlike Takuma who came from injury even after several weeks or months of recovery period.

I don't think so. Both fighters have had ample time to train before the fight, and with this recent report, Takome might take some time to rest, but it doesn't mean they'll fight right away once he's okay. There's still another period to ensure his body is at 100%. If having more time to prepare was such an advantage, why wasn't Fulton able to capitalize on that against Inoue?

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Quote from: goinmerry on October 28, 2023, 06:18:07 PM

Quote from: Jating on October 28, 2023, 01:07:18 PM

Quote from: Viscore on October 28, 2023, 10:38:26 AM

I also read the news, and it's really disappointing. The same thing happened to his brother during his fight against Stephen Fulton; he also suffered an injury, so the fight was postponed.

@Baofeng You're right; it looks like it won't happen this year, probably early next year. Since it's a championship fight, Jerwin has no choice but to wait until it finally takes place. But don't worry, guys, there's still a fight between Inoue and Tapales before the year ends, so that should be enough to entertain us in the last month of the year.

I don't understand though that they are so sloppy to let this happen, I mean it's only sparring, and why his sparring partner targeted his body that much to cause any injury? Doesn't make sense. Of course, they train hard 100% every day in the gym, but if this kind of injuries can be avoided in preparation of the fight, the better.

I can't call that "ONLY" sparring and being sloppy. Didn't you know that in Japan, boxers are giving their very best even at sparring or just a simple day workout so that in the actual boxing, their body will only be used to moving the way they used to be in training and even more boost? The fact that they got injured while sparring means they are actually taking that sparring seriously and not taking it lightly.

That's the reason why even Takuma's brother, Naoya Inoue, also got injured during his preparation against Stephen Fulton.

As per the report, it's a rib injury therefore he might push his body aggressively on that training and not just he just want to test his endurance.

If they are really that going that on too serious with sparing like they are really that making a real match then i cant imagine into those fighters who do Inoue been able to spar with specially if the fight is taken seriously. Going back into that injury which had been attained against with Fulton, was it done on the time on sparring or simply with those casual training sessions like jogging, curl-ups etc..?
If thats the case that if Inoue had been that injured on that time via fighting someone on sparring session then that fight sparing partner is a real deal.
Doesnt matter on what kind of training regime they would be having as long they would really be that aware about into those potential injuries then they do really try their best as much
as they can when it comes to this matter.

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Quote from: Jating on October 28, 2023, 01:07:18 PM

Quote from: Viscore on October 28, 2023, 10:38:26 AM

I also read the news, and it's really disappointing. The same thing happened to his brother during his fight against Stephen Fulton; he also suffered an injury, so the fight was postponed.

@Baofeng You're right; it looks like it won't happen this year, probably early next year. Since it's a championship fight, Jerwin has no choice but to wait until it finally takes place. But don't worry, guys, there's still a fight between Inoue and Tapales before the year ends, so that should be enough to entertain us in the last month of the year.

I don't understand though that they are so sloppy to let this happen, I mean it's only sparring, and why his sparring partner targeted his body that much to cause any injury? Doesn't make sense. Of course, they train hard 100% every day in the gym, but if this kind of injuries can be avoided in preparation of the fight, the better.

I can't call that "ONLY" sparring and being sloppy. Didn't you know that in Japan, boxers are giving their very best even at sparring or just a simple day workout so that in the actual boxing, their body will only be used to moving the way they used to be in training and even more boost? The fact that they got injured while sparring means they are actually taking that sparring seriously and not taking it lightly.

That's the reason why even Takuma's brother, Naoya Inoue, also got injured during his preparation against Stephen Fulton.

As per the report, it's a rib injury therefore he might push his body aggressively on that training and not just he just want to test his endurance. It's an advantage for Jerwin Ancajas too to fully prepared for the fight. He should be much in condition on the day of the fight unlike Takuma who came from injury even after several weeks or months of recovery period.

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Quote from: Dave1 on October 28, 2023, 05:50:06 PM

Quote from: Jating on October 28, 2023, 01:07:18 PM

Quote from: Viscore on October 28, 2023, 10:38:26 AM

I also read the news, and it's really disappointing. The same thing happened to his brother during his fight against Stephen Fulton; he also suffered an injury, so the fight was postponed.

@Baofeng You're right; it looks like it won't happen this year, probably early next year. Since it's a championship fight, Jerwin has no choice but to wait until it finally takes place. But don't worry, guys, there's still a fight between Inoue and Tapales before the year ends, so that should be enough to entertain us in the last month of the year.

I don't understand though that they are so sloppy to let this happen, I mean it's only sparring, and why his sparring partner targeted his body that much to cause any injury? Doesn't make sense. Of course, they train hard 100% every day in the gym, but if this kind of injuries can be avoided in preparation of the fight, the better.

In sparring, they are really going at it with full force, so it's maybe this is just a accident on the part of Inoue and his sparring partner. Inoue knows that Jerwin is a powerful puncher and so he tries to replicate it by getting a heavy handed sparring partner and this is the only reason why he got injured when his mate go for that body shot as they are expecting Ancajas to do that on Inoue. Unfortunately, this things do happen and Ancajas should stay focus and wait for Takuma as that is his target for this year and that belt.

If nothing else, we still have Inoue vs Tapales before this year ends.
And this postponement will give also Ancajas to prepare more on this fight.
Takuma is relatively young as compared to Ancajas, but the latter has the experience inside the ring.
So let's see who's gonna dominate on this match. We can't discard the fact that Takuma is the brother of Naoya.
He got a good source of tips here when it comes to boxing especially fighting with Filipinos.

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Quote from: Jating on October 28, 2023, 01:07:18 PM

Quote from: Viscore on October 28, 2023, 10:38:26 AM

I also read the news, and it's really disappointing. The same thing happened to his brother during his fight against Stephen Fulton; he also suffered an injury, so the fight was postponed.

@Baofeng You're right; it looks like it won't happen this year, probably early next year. Since it's a championship fight, Jerwin has no choice but to wait until it finally takes place. But don't worry, guys, there's still a fight between Inoue and Tapales before the year ends, so that should be enough to entertain us in the last month of the year.

I don't understand though that they are so sloppy to let this happen, I mean it's only sparring, and why his sparring partner targeted his body that much to cause any injury? Doesn't make sense. Of course, they train hard 100% every day in the gym, but if this kind of injuries can be avoided in preparation of the fight, the better.

In sparring, they are really going at it with full force, so it's maybe this is just a accident on the part of Inoue and his sparring partner. Inoue knows that Jerwin is a powerful puncher and so he tries to replicate it by getting a heavy handed sparring partner and this is the only reason why he got injured when his mate go for that body shot as they are expecting Ancajas to do that on Inoue. Unfortunately, this things do happen and Ancajas should stay focus and wait for Takuma as that is his target for this year and that belt.

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Quote from: Viscore on October 28, 2023, 10:38:26 AM

I also read the news, and it's really disappointing. The same thing happened to his brother during his fight against Stephen Fulton; he also suffered an injury, so the fight was postponed.

@Baofeng You're right; it looks like it won't happen this year, probably early next year. Since it's a championship fight, Jerwin has no choice but to wait until it finally takes place. But don't worry, guys, there's still a fight between Inoue and Tapales before the year ends, so that should be enough to entertain us in the last month of the year.

I don't understand though that they are so sloppy to let this happen, I mean it's only sparring, and why his sparring partner targeted his body that much to cause any injury? Doesn't make sense. Of course, they train hard 100% every day in the gym, but if this kind of injuries can be avoided in preparation of the fight, the better.

Yes, for Filipino fans, they still have the Inoue vs Tapales fight.

But this also excites everyone, as we all know that Ancajas was used to be a great champion and has defended his belt multiple times already. And he was given this very chance again, unfortunately the fans will have to wait. Not sure how long it will take for Takuma's injury to be completely healed, but it will take a lot of toll on Jerwin and hopefully he won't be affected mentally by waiting.

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Quote from: coin-investor on October 28, 2023, 11:14:27 AM

Quote from: btc_angela on October 28, 2023, 03:42:33 AM

No need for a tune-up fight, he just don't know maybe he might get upset, just saying. So they need to take this into consideration as to not derail the fight with Takuma Inoue in the future.

Ancajas is very eager to get a title this year but he need not go for a tune-up fight all he needs is a good conditioning coach and nutritionist so he can maintain that fitness while waiting for the new announcement of the fight.

True, because this is another chance for him to get a title and most of us thinks that he has a better chance to win it. For sure he is disappointed by the news. But take it a positive thing, he could still train, lightly and he has more time to study Takuma Inoue and see his weaknesses. And then since down with his trainer coach to plan a better strategy.

Quote from: coin-investor on October 28, 2023, 11:14:27 AM

Some boxers lose their motivation and their condition if the fight is canceled but with the right conditioning he can maintain his fighting form, the worst enemy of any fighter is over-conditioning so I hope he has a good coach to guide him, the fight could possibly happen February of next year.

I think his team knows that, so most likely they will stop training for now and again, just maybe sit down with Jerwin and explain what will be the best option. For me there is no need for a cherry pick fight, he just need to take a rest and continue to motivate himself till next year and not overtrain.

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Quote from: btc_angela on October 28, 2023, 03:42:33 AM

No need for a tune-up fight, he just don't know maybe he might get upset, just saying. So they need to take this into consideration as to not derail the fight with Takuma Inoue in the future.

Ancajas is very eager to get a title this year but he need not go for a tune-up fight all he needs is a good conditioning coach and nutritionist so he can maintain that fitness while waiting for the new announcement of the fight.

Some boxers lose their motivation and their condition if the fight is canceled but with the right conditioning he can maintain his fighting form, the worst enemy of any fighter is over-conditioning so I hope he has a good coach to guide him, the fight could possibly happen February of next year.

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Quote from: btc_angela on October 28, 2023, 03:42:33 AM

^^ Ouch, barely two weeks from this fight, but unfortunately, Inoue suffered a rib injury. Just wondering though how can he get this injury? Thru sparring partner? Anyway, it looks like a freak accident and no one wanted to get injured near the fight. And obviously, Inoue doesn't want to go there with his injury as well, this is his first defense and he wanted that there are no excuses on his side.

Yes, against his sparring partner, and it was mentioned in the article shared by OP.

Quote from: btc_angela on October 28, 2023, 03:42:33 AM

And for Jerwin Ancajas, it's better for him to just wait for Takuma Inoue.

No need for a tune-up fight, he just don't know maybe he might get upset, just saying. So they need to take this into consideration as to not derail the fight with Takuma Inoue in the future.

That's exactly what he needs, he doesn't need to overtrain himself, he just have to time it when Takome will be healed as that's when he woudl also resume the training but this not likely gonna happen this year already reported possible.

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