[Boxing]: Naoya Inoue vs Michael Dasmarinas (No date yet) - page 9.

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Quote from: Russlenat on March 13, 2021, 05:04:53 PM

Any update regarding this fight? It's been a while and t seems like the hype for Inoue was gone.

I'm sure now that the vaccines are already available, travelling from country to country is not hard anymore so there's no reason this fight will be cancelled.

seems no recent updates yet. but according to this article , they are planning to hold this coming April. however, it will be next month already and no updates from them. so it means, it will not materialise this coming April.
this covid is like their determining factor. and it says from the article, if Japan will allow Dasmarinas to travel from PH to their country. so that sched is yet to be determined as they are planning to have the fight in Inoue's home country.

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Any update regarding this fight? It's been a while and t seems like the hype for Inoue was gone.

I'm sure now that the vaccines are already available, travelling from country to country is not hard anymore so there's no reason this fight will be cancelled.

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Quote from: Becky666 on January 31, 2021, 05:54:51 AM

Still in operation as a rumor but one thing is definitely sure that, odds will be competitive becasue of the caliber of fighter in this fight.

It's not possible, Inoue was the heavy favorites in his last two fights and if we will compare Dasmarinas on the the achievement of the last 2 opponents of Inoue, I think they have better achievement. Therefore, I expect the same odds or even less competitive.

Correct, because if we look at the betting odds for Casimero vs Inoue, you'll be surprise that Inoue is still heavily favored despite both are champions.

As this article says: https://mb.com.ph/2020/03/05/odds-stacked-against-john-riel-casimero-as-vegas-heavily-favors-naoya-inoue/

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Reports from Las Vegas put Inoue an 11-2 favorite and Casimero a 7-2 underdog in their scheduled 12-rounder at Mandalay Bay.

According to Casimero’s chief handler Sean Gibbons, a measly bet of $2 for Casimero wins $7 while a whopping $11 wager wins a mere $2.

So we can use that as a basis to estimate the betting odds of this fight.

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I remember, I watched the fight between Donaire and Inoue, in which Inoue dismantled Donaire in a 12-round fight. Although Donaire was already reaching his prime, he managed to stay toe-to-toe with such lethal and deadly japanese fighter.

You mean Donaire is past his prime. His power and stamina has obviously declined, thus Inoue destroyed him just the way he usually beat his opponents. Donaire is one of the best Filipino fighters of all time, but none of the Filipino fighters comes close to how good Pacquiao is.
He (Donaire) shouldn't have fought Inoue toe to toe considering how young and hungry the kid was. He should've being more defensive that being aggressive.

Quote from: qwertyup23 on January 31, 2021, 05:25:09 AM

Now that there is another match between Inoue and a Filipino, I really bet that this match would be exciting and explosive as the one that I have mentioned above. If Dasmarinas wants to get this win, he really needs to grind hard and to develop tactics as Inoue is just a devastating fighter and a puncher.

Dasmariñas has a shot at this, but Inoue is on winning momentum and he seems getting better at every fight the reason why he's heavily favoured on this match up.

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Quote from: Kemarit on January 30, 2021, 09:27:22 PM

Yes, the Donaire fight was indeed a great fight, Donaire was the closest we have seen Inoue goes deep in a fight. I would say that if Donaire has the gas in the championship rounds and hit a perfect left hook, he could have ended Inoue's reign. Although he really did a lot of damage on Inoue breaking his orbital bone in the process. Hope that Dasmarinas can finish what Donaire has started.

I don't think he can, there's a very big difference, Donaire is battle-tested he has gone to a lot of fights he is not afraid to go all out and always go all out you cannot bully Donaire, we cannot say the same thing to Dasmarinas who is not yet faced someone as strong and as skillfully as Inoue, but it's going to be a good experience for him for his future fights.

But when Donaire and Inoue face in battle , Nonito has no longer in his Prime we can see how he punch and move much slower in His peak and also the punches power is lessen that's why He did not end the reign of Inoue , But now Dasmarinas is Thirsty and Hungry to win specially this is a title Bout so for sure Inoue will face his Nightmare in this one.

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Quote from: Becky666 on January 31, 2021, 05:54:51 AM

Still in operation as a rumor but one thing is definitely sure that, odds will be competitive becasue of the caliber of fighter in this fight.

It's not possible, Inoue was the heavy favorites in his last two fights and if we will compare Dasmarinas on the the achievement of the last 2 opponents of Inoue, I think they have better achievement. Therefore, I expect the same odds or even less competitive.

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Quote from: Maslate on January 30, 2021, 03:58:18 PM

Quote from: Lanatsa on January 30, 2021, 07:53:32 AM

The date isn't finalized yet though but once rumor do comes out then probabilities of happening is somewhat high.

This rumor is going to happen because this is a mandatory fight for Inoue, so it's good that we discuss this early because the moment it's officially announce and the betting odds is available, we can easily make a decision. I think most of the posters here are Filipino but I'm still interested to know on what's the majorities pulse on this fight, I hope OP would add a poll.

Still in operation as a rumor but one thing is definitely sure that, odds will be competitive becasue of the caliber of fighter in this fight. Although you made a point but majority of replies i have read aren't from Filipino but from other zones, those who think that losing this fight to Michael Dasmarinas will cost Naoya Inoue reputation should have rethink about his statistic.

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Quote from: qwertyup23 on January 31, 2021, 05:25:09 AM

Quote from: Baofeng on January 15, 2021, 05:03:08 PM

Japan's Inoue will have to defend his belt against IBF mandatory Michael Dasmarinas of the Philippines.

So let's wait for the final date, we still have the Covid-19 situation though, I speculate that the fight could be held around May-June.

I remember, I watched the fight between Donaire and Inoue, in which Inoue dismantled Donaire in a 12-round fight. Although Donaire was already reaching his prime, he managed to stay toe-to-toe with such lethal and deadly japanese fighter.

Now that there is another match between Inoue and a Filipino, I really bet that this match would be exciting and explosive as the one that I have mentioned above. If Dasmarinas wants to get this win, he really needs to grind hard and to develop tactics as Inoue is just a devastating fighter and a puncher.

There's no easy fight when you are fighting against Inoue, he is the "BEAST" in boxing, so he should be feared.
Dasmarinas is not a caliber fighter but I am not underestimating him anyway, he has to prove his capability in his fight and the world will him if he wins.

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Quote from: Baofeng on January 15, 2021, 05:03:08 PM

Japan's Inoue will have to defend his belt against IBF mandatory Michael Dasmarinas of the Philippines.

So let's wait for the final date, we still have the Covid-19 situation though, I speculate that the fight could be held around May-June.

I remember, I watched the fight between Donaire and Inoue, in which Inoue dismantled Donaire in a 12-round fight. Although Donaire was already reaching his prime, he managed to stay toe-to-toe with such lethal and deadly japanese fighter.

Now that there is another match between Inoue and a Filipino, I really bet that this match would be exciting and explosive as the one that I have mentioned above. If Dasmarinas wants to get this win, he really needs to grind hard and to develop tactics as Inoue is just a devastating fighter and a puncher.

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Quote from: Kemarit on January 30, 2021, 09:27:22 PM

Yes, the Donaire fight was indeed a great fight, Donaire was the closest we have seen Inoue goes deep in a fight. I would say that if Donaire has the gas in the championship rounds and hit a perfect left hook, he could have ended Inoue's reign. Although he really did a lot of damage on Inoue breaking his orbital bone in the process. Hope that Dasmarinas can finish what Donaire has started.

I don't think he can, there's a very big difference, Donaire is battle-tested he has gone to a lot of fights he is not afraid to go all out and always go all out you cannot bully Donaire, we cannot say the same thing to Dasmarinas who is not yet faced someone as strong and as skillfully as Inoue, but it's going to be a good experience for him for his future fights.

Interesting if Dasmarinas can make a dent on this fight. I believe he is rigidly preparing for this fight. He is fighting a very popular name already in the boxing. The odds for this fight definitely will favour Inoue. But wonder what will be the gap of the odds?

Betting odds are not available yet but you can expect that Dasmarinas will have a very attractive betting odds, and if you will bet on him to win, that must be so exciting to watch the fight as if you are lucky, you'll get a big reward. I'm guessing, your Php 1000 will win Php 10,000.. I guess that's how heavily favored Inoue is.

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Quote from: coin-investor on January 30, 2021, 11:42:55 PM

Quote from: Kemarit on January 30, 2021, 09:27:22 PM

Yes, the Donaire fight was indeed a great fight, Donaire was the closest we have seen Inoue goes deep in a fight. I would say that if Donaire has the gas in the championship rounds and hit a perfect left hook, he could have ended Inoue's reign. Although he really did a lot of damage on Inoue breaking his orbital bone in the process. Hope that Dasmarinas can finish what Donaire has started.

I don't think he can, there's a very big difference, Donaire is battle-tested he has gone to a lot of fights he is not afraid to go all out and always go all out you cannot bully Donaire, we cannot say the same thing to Dasmarinas who is not yet faced someone as strong and as skillfully as Inoue, but it's going to be a good experience for him for his future fights.

Interesting if Dasmarinas can make a dent on this fight. I believe he is rigidly preparing for this fight. He is fighting a very popular name already in the boxing. The odds for this fight definitely will favour Inoue. But wonder what will be the gap of the odds?

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Quote from: Kemarit on January 30, 2021, 09:27:22 PM

Yes, the Donaire fight was indeed a great fight, Donaire was the closest we have seen Inoue goes deep in a fight. I would say that if Donaire has the gas in the championship rounds and hit a perfect left hook, he could have ended Inoue's reign. Although he really did a lot of damage on Inoue breaking his orbital bone in the process. Hope that Dasmarinas can finish what Donaire has started.

I don't think he can, there's a very big difference, Donaire is battle-tested he has gone to a lot of fights he is not afraid to go all out and always go all out you cannot bully Donaire, we cannot say the same thing to Dasmarinas who is not yet faced someone as strong and as skillfully as Inoue, but it's going to be a good experience for him for his future fights.

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Quote from: Russlenat on January 30, 2021, 06:58:15 PM

Quote from: Maslate on January 30, 2021, 03:58:18 PM

Quote from: Lanatsa on January 30, 2021, 07:53:32 AM

The date isn't finalized yet though but once rumor do comes out then probabilities of happening is somewhat high.

This rumor is going to happen because this is a mandatory fight for Inoue, so it's good that we discuss this early because the moment it's officially announce and the betting odds is available, we can easily make a decision. I think most of the posters here are Filipino but I'm still interested to know on what's the majorities pulse on this fight, I hope OP would add a poll.

No need for poll as this thread might become bias if the winner is Dasmarinas in the poll.
I will bet for Dasmarinas but I don't I would not be surprise if Inoue will take him down in this fight, that's what he usually do so it's not surprising.
What is see is the heart of the Filipino boxer which who keeps fighting and never give up, we all want to see a great fight and hopefully this is one.

Most posters here are Filipino anyways, so it will be bias and we might see Dasmarinas winning 70% if we have a poll. That's Filipino though, they will support their kababayans no matter what the odds are.

Quote from: Russlenat on January 30, 2021, 06:58:15 PM

The Donaire vs Inoue was a great fight, hopefully we will see the same but with different result.

Yes, the Donaire fight was indeed a great fight, Donaire was the closest we have seen Inoue goes deep in a fight. I would say that if Donaire has the gas in the championship rounds and hit a perfect left hook, he could have ended Inoue's reign. Although he really did a lot of damage on Inoue breaking his orbital bone in the process. Hope that Dasmarinas can finish what Donaire has started.

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Quote from: Russlenat on January 30, 2021, 06:58:15 PM

Quote from: Maslate on January 30, 2021, 03:58:18 PM

Quote from: Lanatsa on January 30, 2021, 07:53:32 AM

The date isn't finalized yet though but once rumor do comes out then probabilities of happening is somewhat high.

This rumor is going to happen because this is a mandatory fight for Inoue, so it's good that we discuss this early because the moment it's officially announce and the betting odds is available, we can easily make a decision. I think most of the posters here are Filipino but I'm still interested to know on what's the majorities pulse on this fight, I hope OP would add a poll.

No need for poll as this thread might become bias if the winner is Dasmarinas in the poll.
I will bet for Dasmarinas but I don't I would not be surprise if Inoue will take him down in this fight, that's what he usually do so it's not surprising.
What is see is the heart of the Filipino boxer which who keeps fighting and never give up, we all want to see a great fight and hopefully this is one.

The Donaire vs Inoue was a great fight, hopefully we will see the same but with different result.

Yeah and what does Pulse can do in the outcome of the game? the decisions is depend on the judges and referee and from the performance of the Boxers , so even How majority will comes out nothing will change .

and you are right on this Kabayan because this will looks like Bias since for sure Countrymen will Vote for majority .

One thing is sure here , this fight will be a very tough one for Dasmarinas and Hope that He'll get a chance of Beating this undefeated Japanese boxer.

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Quote from: Maslate on January 30, 2021, 03:58:18 PM

Quote from: Lanatsa on January 30, 2021, 07:53:32 AM

The date isn't finalized yet though but once rumor do comes out then probabilities of happening is somewhat high.

This rumor is going to happen because this is a mandatory fight for Inoue, so it's good that we discuss this early because the moment it's officially announce and the betting odds is available, we can easily make a decision. I think most of the posters here are Filipino but I'm still interested to know on what's the majorities pulse on this fight, I hope OP would add a poll.

No need for poll as this thread might become bias if the winner is Dasmarinas in the poll.
I will bet for Dasmarinas but I don't I would not be surprise if Inoue will take him down in this fight, that's what he usually do so it's not surprising.
What is see is the heart of the Filipino boxer which who keeps fighting and never give up, we all want to see a great fight and hopefully this is one.

The Donaire vs Inoue was a great fight, hopefully we will see the same but with different result.

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Quote from: Lanatsa on January 30, 2021, 07:53:32 AM

The date isn't finalized yet though but once rumor do comes out then probabilities of happening is somewhat high.

This rumor is going to happen because this is a mandatory fight for Inoue, so it's good that we discuss this early because the moment it's officially announce and the betting odds is available, we can easily make a decision. I think most of the posters here are Filipino but I'm still interested to know on what's the majorities pulse on this fight, I hope OP would add a poll.

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Quote from: Cling18 on January 30, 2021, 05:35:26 AM

Quote from: harizen on January 27, 2021, 06:18:19 PM

Quote from: Vaculin on January 26, 2021, 08:07:23 AM

If Inoue will loss here then he does not deserve to be in the top rank of pound for pound fighter.

Inoue's reputation won't be destroyed in case of loss. 17 KO in his 20 fights is a highly recognized stats. He will still remain on the top rankings after that.

He worked his way up beating some of the titleholders. Lots of attempts to take his title but successfully defend the edit. Even I'm eyeing for Dasmarinas here to win, as supporting him obviously and we are always biased for a PH boxer, I can't really see a way how he will deal with Inoue here.

Dasmarinas already knows how fierce Inoue is. He knows how deadly and recognized his next opponent is. Surely, tactics and strategy are now taking place for a long-time now.

If Inoue would lose in this fight, it will never ruin his reputation because he has established a good record already. If he losses, it will also be another path to success for Dasmarinas and as we all know, Filipinos are too dedicated when it comes to their boxing career because of Manny's influence. Dasmarinas should learn how to deal with the possible movements of Inoue and he should prepare well for this because they both deserve a good fight.

Even its hard to believe that he would be losing this fight but since chances or odds of losing will really be there.Yes, filipino boxers are tough and have that kind of mindset
that it would really be just the same when it comes to dedication.

The date isn't finalized yet though but once rumor do comes out then probabilities of happening is somewhat high.

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Quote from: harizen on January 27, 2021, 06:18:19 PM

Quote from: Vaculin on January 26, 2021, 08:07:23 AM

If Inoue will loss here then he does not deserve to be in the top rank of pound for pound fighter.

Inoue's reputation won't be destroyed in case of loss. 17 KO in his 20 fights is a highly recognized stats. He will still remain on the top rankings after that.

He worked his way up beating some of the titleholders. Lots of attempts to take his title but successfully defend the edit. Even I'm eyeing for Dasmarinas here to win, as supporting him obviously and we are always biased for a PH boxer, I can't really see a way how he will deal with Inoue here.

Dasmarinas already knows how fierce Inoue is. He knows how deadly and recognized his next opponent is. Surely, tactics and strategy are now taking place for a long-time now.

If Inoue would lose in this fight, it will never ruin his reputation because he has established a good record already. If he losses, it will also be another path to success for Dasmarinas and as we all know, Filipinos are too dedicated when it comes to their boxing career because of Manny's influence. Dasmarinas should learn how to deal with the possible movements of Inoue and he should prepare well for this because they both deserve a good fight.

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If somehow Dasmarinas possesses a granite chin like Margarito or Canelo, then absorb the punch and throw something in return that can hurt Inoue and extend the fight in full 12 rounds.

How about the body, I think he also need a strong body otherwise he would feel like what Donaire felt during his fight with Inoue. This guy is now the most popular boxer in Japan, he has the power and the speed, so it's really a tough fight for Dasmarinas here but this tough fight comes with big reward if he wins this game, enough for him to get bigger fights afterwards.

I think he has enough strength on his body, but for sure it will be tested by Inoue. And Inoue needs to get closer to have his body shot and for sure Dasmarinas will return with his own. So the chin will be the most vulnerable part as Inoue is very sharp and targets the head more frequently than that body.

And I agree the incentive of training hard and giving it all to win this fight against the best version of Inoue will come with a big reward for Michael and upsetting Inoue will be a dream come true for him, similar to Pacquiao's cinderella story.

It's going to be the best win of his career if he can beat Inoue, on the other hand, I would not compare Dasmarinas to Pacquiao since Pacquiao is just so special, he is really destined to become one of the best in boxing if not the "GOAT".

Yes, Manny is special and the GOAT. But what I'm trying to say is that Dasmarinas could use it as motivation to really train very hard because he is facing an undefeated fighter and one the best pound for pound.

And with the Manny story at the back of his mind he can possibly follow on Manny's footstep and became the next Filipino champion that will bring honour to the country.

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Quote from: dothebeats on January 28, 2021, 03:09:07 PM

Inoue is no doubt the better fighter when it comes to stats and experience, though I believe that Dasmarinas can pull off a good fight if the Japanese boxer underestimates his capabilities and punching power.

Yes, as much as we don't think that Dasmarinas won't be a good fit for the Monster in paper, but he shouldn't be over confident as just one punch can really change the complexion of the fight.

Quote from: dothebeats on January 28, 2021, 03:09:07 PM

The Japanese boxer's previous fights weren't a slouch, so going down a level below to the ranks of Dasmarinas might instill overconfidence on his side, and this might make the hungry Dasmarinas go in for the kill and teach Inoue a lesson or two. But anyways, we know who's the favorite in this fight, and the pressure is on Dasmarinas to trade blows and overcome Inoue's hooks.

Then it will be his mistakes for being over confident specially facing his mandatory with nothing to lose here. And then the big heart of the Filipinos that can't be measured, it has been proven throughout boxing's history never to underestimate Filipino fighters.

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