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It really will be very bad if it ends that way, a staged fight. A lot of people have invested their emotions into this, believing they will be truly entertained. If it turns out like what happens in wrestling (WWE), where it's all showboating, then novelty bouts are likely not going to be getting attention in future like they're getting now. I mean, why would anyone waste their time to think they're going to be watching real men box only to witness sissified drama in the ring? That won't be me.
Tyson is a legend, and Jake is a showman who knows how to attract attention to such fights, so people will be interested in watching this fight. On the one hand, I think that Tyson is unlikely to want to pretend in staged fights, so he will not feel sorry for Jake, but on the other hand, he may be grateful for the opportunity of such a fight and for the opportunity to earn such money, so his blows may not be so destructive, but I think he will want to defeat the blogger.
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(...) I think it's lose-lose for Jake though (leaving aside the insane amount of money he will have received). If he wins then he's beaten a near 60-year-old Tyson, and if he loses then he's lost to a near 60-year-old Tyson. (...)

I don't think he's too concerned about what people in general think of him. He probably has a group of loyal fanboys who would follow him and consume his content no matter what (until a new, better e-celeb emerges).
This has little to do with sport and everything to do with show business, publicity and money. After losing to Tommy Fury, a mediocre boxer (who btw hasn't fought any other boxer since that fight), Jake will not make the same mistake twice and will limit himself to fighting big names from other disciplines and/or past their prime.

I don't think beating Mike would make any dent to Paul's "career", but getting KO'ed would. He's a big favourite in this fight, so it would be harder to hype up any future fights after getting put down by a 60-year-old.

I'm not really talking about Jake's fans but the rest of the world and other boxing fans. Jake's fans are a drop in the ocean compared to the boxing fraternity and fans. Tyson is one of the GOATs and is beloved by boxing fans so nobody wants to see him get hurt. Quite a lot of boxers have been quite vocal about what they think of the fight and are worried about Tyson getting hurt. Even Tony Bellew got into a bit of a clash with Jake recently and has been quite vocal about what he thinks of the fight any chance he gets: https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/boxing/tony-bellew-paul-tyson-press-conference-b2646760.html

And who wouldn't be afraid of the baddest man in the planet? Although this could be fun and for pure entertainment. But let's see if they will make it real and try to knock each other out.



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All he needs to do is to successfully explode early on before he gasses out.
That's the only part that should worry me if I were to place a bet on the fight. Off course, I would be betting on Tyson if I were to. The part of him gassing out would be one to look at because of his age. I've watched a few training clips of his and saw how he panted in them. Come to think of it, Tyson hadn't been a patient fighter. It could also be the reason he liked finishing up in early rounds so as to retain his energy. He never liked his fights dragged beyond the 4th–5th rounds if he could during his reigning days.

I think I might look at the odds for a first round KO, though I'm sceptical if they might have an agreement to take it easy for the first round or so so it's not over in a heartbeat.
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I think that there is a high chance this fight will be rigged.
It really will be very bad if it ends that way, a staged fight. A lot of people have invested their emotions into this, believing they will be truly entertained. If it turns out like what happens in wrestling (WWE), where it's all showboating, then novelty bouts are likely not going to be getting attention in future like they're getting now. I mean, why would anyone waste their time to think they're going to be watching real men box only to witness sissified drama in the ring? That won't be me.

At this point no one really believes this fight won't be rigged in a way or another. My opinion is that the fight will end up with a draw so one really can be upset on Tyson but also won't make Paul look badly because if this fight ends up any different , it will be a big mess. If it ends with Tyson wins , most of us will be happy yes , but the promoters ? the ones who have money invested in this show won't be so happy. Then , if Paul wins , the internet will explode against Paul which can affect his next fights viewers and overall he will kinda become a very hated man across internet and no one really wants that. So again , a draw should be the outcome of this fight as long as it's rigged in the correct way.
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I think that there is a high chance this fight will be rigged.
It really will be very bad if it ends that way, a staged fight. A lot of people have invested their emotions into this, believing they will be truly entertained. If it turns out like what happens in wrestling (WWE), where it's all showboating, then novelty bouts are likely not going to be getting attention in future like they're getting now. I mean, why would anyone waste their time to think they're going to be watching real men box only to witness sissified drama in the ring? That won't be me.
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All he needs to do is to successfully explode early on before he gasses out.
That's the only part that should worry me if I were to place a bet on the fight. Off course, I would be betting on Tyson if I were to. The part of him gassing out would be one to look at because of his age. I've watched a few training clips of his and saw how he panted in them. Come to think of it, Tyson hadn't been a patient fighter. It could also be the reason he liked finishing up in early rounds so as to retain his energy. He never liked his fights dragged beyond the 4th–5th rounds if he could during his reigning days.
It's a sure thing that he will gas out, he has been out for many years, so he is not that active, and then his age as well. So pretty much if you have followed this sports, ring rust due to inactivity will result to a boxer being tired or even out of rhythm. And before he will get his act together, he could be very well tired due to his age. So he could be just like in the fight for the first 1-3 rounds, then after that he will gas out and run out of energy and so his punches will not have any effect on Jake. And that will be the time that Jake will take advantage of, and scoring and maybe soften Mike Tyson in the next couple of rounds and take the win.
I think that there is a high chance this fight will be rigged. Jake Paul has money and wants fame, Tyson has fame and wants money, so why won't he allow a small kid to beat him? He is an old man, retired, if he gets beaten by Jake Paul, he loses nothing because it won't affect him in any way, he doesn't have a career in boxing anymore.

But I find it strange that bookmakers accept bets on Jake Paul VS Mike Tyson. Am I the only one who thinks that this fight can be rigged?

Mike Tyson, is a boxing legend, and despite his age, anybody that is entering the ring to fight with him mustn't underestimate him, or they might have themselves to blame.
Mike Tyson is a different breed. I haven't seen a human like him. He is 58 years old but still has more muscle mass than majority of young men in their 20s. Even at 58, his boxing is phenomenal. I watched his Instagram reels and I can't believe that 58 years old, even if it's Mike Tyson, can box this well but the fact is fact, he can, that's why he is a different breed.
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Yes, definitely, Mike Tyson is still scary, and not just that, it seems that Jake Paul really respected him.

However, as what he said, at the end of the day, they are going to war against each other and so he really needs to overcome that fear and challenge himself. But if you think about it, Mike Tyson is already old and that's why he is a big underdog and we don't know if he can pull the trigger. Their is a big difference if you see him with his trainer, as compare to be in the ring. As maybe in just a couple of rounds, he will be running out of breath.
Mike Tyson, is a boxing legend, and despite his age, anybody that is entering the ring to fight with him mustn't underestimate him, or they might have themselves to blame. The prestige of a lion stays with him no matter how old it is, so Jake Paul, did well to respect the legend outside the ring and he should also extend it into the ring because iron Mike, still got it. I'm particularly happy for Mike Tyson, that despite his age he can still make headlines, meaning that his career hasn't quite faded away, and what's more, he's surely going to be richer after the fight, whether he wins or loses to the younger opponent.
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All he needs to do is to successfully explode early on before he gasses out.
That's the only part that should worry me if I were to place a bet on the fight. Off course, I would be betting on Tyson if I were to. The part of him gassing out would be one to look at because of his age. I've watched a few training clips of his and saw how he panted in them. Come to think of it, Tyson hadn't been a patient fighter. It could also be the reason he liked finishing up in early rounds so as to retain his energy. He never liked his fights dragged beyond the 4th–5th rounds if he could during his reigning days.
It's a sure thing that he will gas out, he has been out for many years, so he is not that active, and then his age as well. So pretty much if you have followed this sports, ring rust due to inactivity will result to a boxer being tired or even out of rhythm. And before he will get his act together, he could be very well tired due to his age. So he could be just like in the fight for the first 1-3 rounds, then after that he will gas out and run out of energy and so his punches will not have any effect on Jake. And that will be the time that Jake will take advantage of, and scoring and maybe soften Mike Tyson in the next couple of rounds and take the win.
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In a little more while it's going to be a great match in terms of entertainment. This has been a long-time coming fight and it can be a great opportunity to profit as well. What I'm worried about is how well would be the odds for someone like Tyson at this age. It was 2020 when he last fought right? But professionally it's 2005 IIRC.

This is going to be an exciting match.

It was against Roy Jones if I'm not mistaken, but it was the same for entertainment as we are in the middle of the pandemic and so fans are looking for something like a exhibition match. The fight ended in a draw, again, I'm just drawing everything from memory so I might be wrong here.

But this time, it's going to be different, they picture this as real as it gets, the rules are under pro and they seems to put Mike Tyson as if he is still in his prime and could destroy Jake Paul in this fight. On the contrary, he is old and rusty and not sure if he can go full rounds against a young and motivated fighter.
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All he needs to do is to successfully explode early on before he gasses out.
That's the only part that should worry me if I were to place a bet on the fight. Off course, I would be betting on Tyson if I were to. The part of him gassing out would be one to look at because of his age. I've watched a few training clips of his and saw how he panted in them. Come to think of it, Tyson hadn't been a patient fighter. It could also be the reason he liked finishing up in early rounds so as to retain his energy. He never liked his fights dragged beyond the 4th–5th rounds if he could during his reigning days.
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In a little more while it's going to be a great match in terms of entertainment. This has been a long-time coming fight and it can be a great opportunity to profit as well. What I'm worried about is how well would be the odds for someone like Tyson at this age. It was 2020 when he last fought right? But professionally it's 2005 IIRC.

This is going to be an exciting match.
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I doubt if Jake is afraid of Tyson. He's 27 years young. He's active, just had his previous fight 4 months ago. This bout is his own making. Tyson, on the other hand, is about to claim is senior citizen ID. So, Jake won't be running all throughout the fight. He won't be unnecessarily catching Mike's powerful shots, though. But if such occasion arises, I think Jake can absorb whatever is left with Mike's power.

Here is the video wherein he said that he is afraid of Mike,

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Go moved to 4:30 and he says that he got a little scared when he sees Mike Tyson post on IG. And who wouldn't be afraid of the baddest man in the planet? Although this could be fun and for pure entertainment. But let's see if they will make it real and try to knock each other out.

Tyson isn't anymore the baddest man in the planet. That title has long been expired. And that's precisely the reason why Jake personally picked Tyson as his next opponent. He once was the baddest and he's about to be admitted to the house of the aged.

Of course, Jake would say that. He had to. This is, after all, a fight between two men who have more than 30 years of age difference. The difference is older than Jake himself. This fight has to look fair. This fight has to sell. This fight has to look serious despite being directed by a clown.

Well, Tyson can still fight. He still has some power left in him. I'm hoping against hope that he will hurt and defeat this coward and put him to shame for choosing a rusty old man.
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Yes, definitely, Mike Tyson is still scary, and not just that, it seems that Jake Paul really respected him.

However, as what he said, at the end of the day, they are going to war against each other and so he really needs to overcome that fear and challenge himself. But if you think about it, Mike Tyson is already old and that's why he is a big underdog and we don't know if he can pull the trigger. Their is a big difference if you see him with his trainer, as compare to be in the ring. As maybe in just a couple of rounds, he will be running out of breath.

I’m not sure if Mike Tyson has much left in the tank at his age. He might be able to survive the first round, but he could run out of steam in the following rounds. It would be great if he could catch Jake right from the start, but I doubt that will happen since Jake will likely be very cautious of Tyson’s power, even at his age.

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Mr Tyson is one of the strongest boxeur that we have ever seen in the world.
A war machine, literally. I think that face/eyes when he gives a punch are somewhat crazy by itself.
But it seems there is a clause that Mr Tyson can't "hurt" Jake so this can lead to a "weak" performance by boxeur.
Lets see... for sure these kinds of matches "for fun" have become more and more common practice Sad
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In both late performance records, Mike Tyson has been undisputable compared to Paul.
The physique and experiences attained by Mike Tyson has the potential to pave him winning. I would not want disputes the fact that he is 58 at age would be a barrier to him to counter Paul who is just 27.

If I can read the ambition of Mike Tyson, he would apply all devouring muscles and tactics to bring Paul down just to make history of all time again after other legends who had formally encountered Paul but were all beaten by the young, active and vibrate boxer of Paul.

Assuming I will bet on this match, I will be betting on Mike Tyson to win. If I loose too much is bet which are unpredictable and not a shame on Tyson for loosing my bet. Hence... It a kudos to him of standing out.

After so many postponements, it finally seems like the fight will happen. Here in my country, the advertisements have already started everywhere, especially since boxing is in the news because of Acelino Popó Freitas and the death of Adilson Maguila. I would bet on Mike, even though the fight is just for entertainment, I believe that Jake Paul will not be able to knock Mike down. He is well prepared, and he is completely different from when he ended his career.
Yeah. Jake is an active boxer who has been on the current era of influential boxers, marking that Tyson has retired and no longer active on real time on the boxing ring may not possibly diminish his own possession soon like that because he has as much been on the board of most undisputed boxers during his era too.

They all have their best rates of  performances which I don't see Tyson faded so soon to be subdued by Jake.
I doubt and based on game of fun, I am supporting Tyson and sure that I will be betting on him because I am more confident in him winning that Jake.
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(...) I think it's lose-lose for Jake though (leaving aside the insane amount of money he will have received). If he wins then he's beaten a near 60-year-old Tyson, and if he loses then he's lost to a near 60-year-old Tyson. (...)

I don't think he's too concerned about what people in general think of him. He probably has a group of loyal fanboys who would follow him and consume his content no matter what (until a new, better e-celeb emerges).
This has little to do with sport and everything to do with show business, publicity and money. After losing to Tommy Fury, a mediocre boxer (who btw hasn't fought any other boxer since that fight), Jake will not make the same mistake twice and will limit himself to fighting big names from other disciplines and/or past their prime.

I don't think beating Mike would make any dent to Paul's "career", but getting KO'ed would. He's a big favourite in this fight, so it would be harder to hype up any future fights after getting put down by a 60-year-old.
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Yes, definitely, Mike Tyson is still scary, and not just that, it seems that Jake Paul really respected him.

However, as what he said, at the end of the day, they are going to war against each other and so he really needs to overcome that fear and challenge himself. But if you think about it, Mike Tyson is already old and that's why he is a big underdog and we don't know if he can pull the trigger. Their is a big difference if you see him with his trainer, as compare to be in the ring. As maybe in just a couple of rounds, he will be running out of breath.

Mike Tyson looked downright scary in that public workout while Jake Paul looked like he was intentionally trying to look bad. I’m not sure what we’re going to see, but I’m excited. I hope we see a couple moments of vintage Tyson action but most importantly I hope we see a clean fight and everyone walk away safely.
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Yes, definitely, Mike Tyson is still scary, and not just that, it seems that Jake Paul really respected him.

However, as what he said, at the end of the day, they are going to war against each other and so he really needs to overcome that fear and challenge himself. But if you think about it, Mike Tyson is already old and that's why he is a big underdog and we don't know if he can pull the trigger. Their is a big difference if you see him with his trainer, as compare to be in the ring. As maybe in just a couple of rounds, he will be running out of breath.
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Here is the video wherein he said that he is afraid of Mike,

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Go moved to 4:30 and he says that he got a little scared when he sees Mike Tyson post on IG. And who wouldn't be afraid of the baddest man in the planet? Although this could be fun and for pure entertainment. But let's see if they will make it real and try to knock each other out.


Who wouldn't be a bit scared of Mike Tyson? Man is an idol, an icon in the ring, a lot of boxers want to emulate him, a lot look up to him, a lot learn from him. So you going against your idol comes with a bit of fear, excitement, and everything. And for Mike to get in the ring, he's either there to win or maybe have a friendly match, but if he's not playing a friendly match, then he will most likely knock out Jake. That's why Jake has the fear because he might try his best but one serious punch from Mike can move him like five steps backwards.

Even though Mike is advanced in age and might be a senior very soon,  it doesn't erase the fact that he has tactics and years of experience that Jake is still growing and learning to have. Jake might be active and all of that, but you know there is this thing with tactics - knowing exactly where to punch, when to attack, and all of that.

So that's just how I see it. Jake might not be all that afraid, but there is this thought that this person is experienced and might just use one or two tactics to get me down.
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Hopefully, Jake will not just put up his bicycle in this fight, hehehe, fans are going to pay huge money on them to see both engaging in a fanfare but there should be some action as they promised it during their pre-fight interviews so Jake should live by that hype.

He really needs to engage Mike in the beginning to really test Tyson if he has that power, or his age really caught up with him. Jake though is also known to have a gas problem as he usually gets tired in the middle rounds. And with that added muscle on him as he needs to go up to the heavyweight, maybe it could also have an effect on his body as the fight goes in the distance.

I doubt if Jake is afraid of Tyson. He's 27 years young. He's active, just had his previous fight 4 months ago. This bout is his own making. Tyson, on the other hand, is about to claim is senior citizen ID. So, Jake won't be running all throughout the fight. He won't be unnecessarily catching Mike's powerful shots, though. But if such occasion arises, I think Jake can absorb whatever is left with Mike's power.

Here is the video wherein he said that he is afraid of Mike,

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Go moved to 4:30 and he says that he got a little scared when he sees Mike Tyson post on IG. And who wouldn't be afraid of the baddest man in the planet? Although this could be fun and for pure entertainment. But let's see if they will make it real and try to knock each other out.

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I honestly don't know what to expect from this fight. Assuming they haven't some sort of agreement to take it easy on each other much like the last Tyson fight against Roy Jones Jnr which was obviously just an exhibition then it's 50/50 to me if they do go full force each. I think it's lose-lose for Jake though (leaving aside the insane amount of money he will have received). If he wins then he's beaten a near 60-year-old Tyson, and if he loses then he's lost to a near 60-year-old Tyson. If he KOs Tyson then a lot of people are gonna hate him for it. IF they do go full force anything can happen. Tyson is still vicious so could get an early KO but as the fight goes on it will lean in Jake's favour given his youth and stamina and he's gone the distance a couple of times especially with Tommy Fury, a current pro boxer (though an average one at that) so I could see Jake getting a stoppage or just wearing him down round after round.

I think I'm looking forward to the Taylor/Serrano rematch more. I actually think Serrano got robbed in the first fight but Katie won't have the home crowd (and possibly judges) on her side this time so might get a fairer shot.

Hopefully, Jake will not just put up his bicycle in this fight, hehehe, fans are going to pay huge money on them to see both engaging in a fanfare but there should be some action as they promised it during their pre-fight interviews so Jake should live by that hype.

He really needs to engage Mike in the beginning to really test Tyson if he has that power, or his age really caught up with him. Jake though is also known to have a gas problem as he usually gets tired in the middle rounds. And with that added muscle on him as he needs to go up to the heavyweight, maybe it could also have an effect on his body as the fight goes in the distance.

I doubt if Jake is afraid of Tyson. He's 27 years young. He's active, just had his previous fight 4 months ago. This bout is his own making. Tyson, on the other hand, is about to claim is senior citizen ID. So, Jake won't be running all throughout the fight. He won't be unnecessarily catching Mike's powerful shots, though. But if such occasion arises, I think Jake can absorb whatever is left with Mike's power.

Mike is still scary even at his age. Jake has said a couple of times he gets scared seeing some of Tyson's training footage but could just be trying to sell the fight.
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