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Topic: [Boxing profanation] Jake Paul Vs Mike Tyson - 15th November (Read 2121 times)

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So Mike Tyson's coach latter asked him (Tyson) to go back home for his family after being defeated by Paul.
The coach was remorseful in regards of Tyson's age but think he is skeptically disappointed of Tyson lost after training him against the match for 7months.

Quite a hmm... because there must surely emerge a winner in a match as much as this one.
Even the young Paul confirmed his sympathy on Tyson not capable to conserve stamina to fit in the total rounds for the fight and also confirmed that he was concious not to leave Tyson with unnecessary pains by the end of the match so he could enjoy his going back home.
This one though cracked my ribs. Lol.
Incredibly... Tyson admitted a honest defeated by Paul.
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Yes, we give Mike his credit and due in this fight, but we all know that he is not going to win against a young fighter in Jake Paul. Others including me are disappointed as there are no more actions in the ring between the two.

If you knew that old is not going to win against young, why are you disappointed with the result? Either you wanted to Mike to be knocked out after being exhausted. Or expected a top high speed performance from an old man. Even though the fight was claimed to be a professional, with special rules, it still looked like an exhibition with nuances. From my point of view, the idea of this fight was to see legendary boxer once again in the ring, then to see one boxer is devastating his opponent.

What I meant to say is that there should be at least some fan fare in the fight, maybe have rounds that either one of them is dominating to bring cheers from the crowd. So just imagine if you bought tickets that are pricey, but there is no fun in it except for the ladies division.

Of course, this is still a exhibition match, although they change the rules, to make it looks like a professional fight which is not.

Needless to say, it's now over, fans got what they wanted to see from the legendary boxer, and then Jake Paul moving along to have another fight with someone.
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Yes, we give Mike his credit and due in this fight, but we all know that he is not going to win against a young fighter in Jake Paul. Others including me are disappointed as there are no more actions in the ring between the two.

If you knew that old is not going to win against young, why are you disappointed with the result? Either you wanted to Mike to be knocked out after being exhausted. Or expected a top high speed performance from an old man. Even though the fight was claimed to be a professional, with special rules, it still looked like an exhibition with nuances. From my point of view, the idea of this fight was to see legendary boxer once again in the ring, then to see one boxer is devastating his opponent.
It was from this match I knew that anything can be fixed. I was so surprised the way Mike was behaving in the out has if he has no hand to hit his opponent, Jake Paul. The match was very disappointing to see the shits that are going on in sports. He was paid exorbitantly to lose the match and I know he was happier to receive such a fortune. Maybe he forgot that his past history had been tarnished with a token he was given. I know many boxers will do the same thing, losing great match that was supposed to increase his rank as one time king of boxing. Many gamblers lost huge amounts of money from the match and casinos made money from us.
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Picture makes no sense, as all those grandpas and grandmas are not athletes. If they were retired old martial artists who were champions or were on hype in past Jake would throw down a challenge Cheesy

But you people make fun of Jake incorrectly. He isnt challenging pensioners. He is challenging anyone who would bring him money. Whether it be Canelo next, or random guy in the mall. If people are ready to pay for watching it, if sponsors ready to pay him millions, he will fight anyone.

I don't know why everywhere i am hearing that people are curious to know Jake Paul next fight will be with whom ? I know it is sarcasm as no one seems to give credit to Jake Paul on his victory over Mike Tyson and it has become quite controversial. By the way, I wish he plays with some young boxer next time and hence he will know his value then.  Cool

Who will be Jake Paul's next opponent after his win over Tyson?
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I will still put faith in him if he's going to fight a real fight with Jack Paul again and again because I don't think Jack Paul is that strong to defeat him if the fight wasn't scripted. Hold on a minute, are you in any way thinking that Jack Paul punches can actually bring down Mike Tyson? I watched the fight from the beginning till it ended though I wasn't expecting what I saw because Mike Tyson is a great fighter I wasn't expecting Jack Paul to have dominated him in the fight regardless of their age difference, I have accepted the outcome of the fight but nothing has changed in my believe that it was not a real fight.
The interesting part that made people confused is that we have seen Mike train before this fight, we have seen him punch bags and such just like any other training. However, we haven't seen him try to hit Jake like that once. I once saw him hit a punching bag so hard that I felt like Jake would be taken to hospital on a stretcher, those videos made people confused.

Now of course, Jake is not a punching bag and he moves around and had the reach advantage, but that doesn't mean that we are going to see Mike be any bad. People just wanted to see Mike hit Jake once like that, all those videos were good but they had to mean something and if they were to mean something then we would really end up trying to figure out how to make this work somehow.

In the end, reaching to a new level of entertainment means a rematch would be great. Surely people got bored on this fight, but it would still be a lot of money for a lot of people without a doubt.
That's just a video that Mike Tyson had for himself when he was training in a particular spot without having anyone come to challenge him, to have him move around to throw some punches or receive punches at the same time. There's nothing that weakens someone like that, than when they stay at a static position for some minutes to box a punching bag. In a boxing fight, a boxing opponent wouldn't allow his fellow boxers to punch them without giving them the tough time to stress them around to punch them at the same time in the ring. Which can exhaust their energy.

That's what Mike Tyson gets to see in his fight against Jake Paul. Jake Paul didn't allow himself to stay as a punching bag for Mike Tyson. First of all, Mike Tyson went through the stress of getting moved around by throwing punches and receiving heavy punches from him, which resulted in Mike Tyson's energy being drained out of old age to carry on with the fight
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I'm not sure what you meant, but Mike Tyson received a whopping $20 million in this one fight alone and this could be his biggest paycheck for all we know. Yes, he did last for the whole duration of the fight, but if you look closely, his punch output is going down after round two. So you can deduce that he is tiring, and tiring very quick and fast because of his old age.

Yes, we give Mike his credit and due in this fight, but we all know that he is not going to win against a young fighter in Jake Paul. Others including me are disappointed as there are no more actions in the ring between the two.
I'm surprised that Mike agreed to this fight. Why would a man of his age enter the ring with a young opponent? It was clear who had the advantage in strength and endurance.

He got tired in the second round. Would you have lasted that long at 58? Now that's what I call willpower. Not everyone can do that. There's no point in even thinking about it. Even for me, Tyson won this fight, not Paul. That's how I see it. A difference of 4 points? That's just ridiculous.
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Hehehe everyone appears to be in similar argument because it also very much appears that they only consider Jake Paul's fights as something similar to a comedy movie. He is collecting the money from the fans, however hehe. He is also gathering much of out attention.

However, similar to what I have mentioned before, he should have a rematch against Tommy Fury. If he will have the victory on this, he will certainly become more annoying and this will bring him more offers to get more money hehehehe
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I've added a poll to check what's the dominating opinion on whether or not the fight was staged.

I honestly cannot tell. On one hand, I wouldn't be much surprised if it was, given the shady business model of Paul's boxing enterprise and the rumours relating to his previous fights regarding strange clauses and NDAs. On the other hand, Paul was a favourite anyway and perfectly capable of winning against a nearly 60 year old Mike. He knew that all he had to do was to avoid brawls and that time was on his side as Mike didn't have much in his gas tank.

Anyhow, it's over now and hopefully we can focus more on real boxing fights.

I would say that it is not stage, both have their strategies in the ring to win. Mike Tyson as expected, started very hot in the first 2 rounds because as what we have say, this is the perfect opportunity for him to win the fight because he will by fresh in the first 4 minutes of the fight. And we did see Mike crack Jake Paul, but Jake just eat the best of what Mike give to him.

And if you look at their corners, specially on Mike, they try to motivate him and hope that at least one ounce of Mike's strength is still there to score a knockout win. Besides, they have really a good corner and you can see familiar faces. If this is stage they could have hired someone and not a week known trainer of cut person.
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I guess that's the purpose since after all this is only a exhibition fight.

It wasn't though. The fight was a fully sanctioned professional boxing match and the results are now included in each of their records.
You can see it here:
Mike: https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/474
Jake: https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/912383

And since Mike came out of retirement, he's now again included in the rankings: Ranked 80th in the US and 311 globally.
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I've added a poll to check what's the dominating opinion on whether or not the fight was staged.

I honestly cannot tell. On one hand, I wouldn't be much surprised if it was, given the shady business model of Paul's boxing enterprise and the rumours relating to his previous fights regarding strange clauses and NDAs. On the other hand, Paul was a favourite anyway and perfectly capable of winning against a nearly 60 year old Mike. He knew that all he had to do was to avoid brawls and that time was on his side as Mike didn't have much in his gas tank.

Anyhow, it's over now and hopefully we can focus more on real boxing fights.

Can't take out those possibilities since after all they cannot get anything for more longer times with Tyson as he is an aged fighter. So compare if they will let everything will be in favor with Paul for sure more exhibition or either professional fights to come since he is still young and capable to do what he want.

We may not disclosed anything related to rigged or fix match, but I guess lets leave that what it is. fight already end and so far both parties including the fans still satisfied on everything what they see.

I guess that's the purpose since after all this is only a exhibition fight.
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I've added a poll to check what's the dominating opinion on whether or not the fight was staged.

I honestly cannot tell. On one hand, I wouldn't be much surprised if it was, given the shady business model of Paul's boxing enterprise and the rumours relating to his previous fights regarding strange clauses and NDAs. On the other hand, Paul was a favourite anyway and perfectly capable of winning against a nearly 60 year old Mike. He knew that all he had to do was to avoid brawls and that time was on his side as Mike didn't have much in his gas tank.

Anyhow, it's over now and hopefully we can focus more on real boxing fights.
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I will still put faith in him if he's going to fight a real fight with Jack Paul again and again because I don't think Jack Paul is that strong to defeat him if the fight wasn't scripted. Hold on a minute, are you in any way thinking that Jack Paul punches can actually bring down Mike Tyson? I watched the fight from the beginning till it ended though I wasn't expecting what I saw because Mike Tyson is a great fighter I wasn't expecting Jack Paul to have dominated him in the fight regardless of their age difference, I have accepted the outcome of the fight but nothing has changed in my believe that it was not a real fight.
The interesting part that made people confused is that we have seen Mike train before this fight, we have seen him punch bags and such just like any other training. However, we haven't seen him try to hit Jake like that once. I once saw him hit a punching bag so hard that I felt like Jake would be taken to hospital on a stretcher, those videos made people confused.

Now of course, Jake is not a punching bag and he moves around and had the reach advantage, but that doesn't mean that we are going to see Mike be any bad. People just wanted to see Mike hit Jake once like that, all those videos were good but they had to mean something and if they were to mean something then we would really end up trying to figure out how to make this work somehow.

In the end, reaching to a new level of entertainment means a rematch would be great. Surely people got bored on this fight, but it would still be a lot of money for a lot of people without a doubt.
The fight was boring and the transmission over Netflix was terrible, we do not need more of this, I really hope that people realize this was a scripted fight and nothing else, and how they should stop giving so much money to people that do not deserve it, because as much as Tyson was such a good boxer on his prime and that I can understand he is nowhere near that level at his age, it is difficult for me to believe that this is all what he could do against an influencer.
Yes, tons of people or boxing fans or even to those bettors who did make out that huge bet into him and on how this exhibition turned out. You could really be able to expect that there are tons of people who do expect that Mike would be able to win up the fight but ending up on the opposite thing. It is really that staged in the first place. Arent people aware of this stuff? It did really just that turned out that it was really that too obvious on what Mike is really that doing. You could be able to see those tons of opportunities on making up some jabs but ending up on having those kind of weaving movement and not throwing punches at all. hahaha. You could be able to spot out that there are tons of chances that he could be able to knock out that Jake paul but since we are talking $20M for the show then he just cant.  Cheesy

I have read many opinions about this boxing match and people say that it was scripted, that it was done to make money etc. I will not say anything about the possibility of the match being scripted and I want to look at it from a different perspective. It has been a long time since I have seen a situation that brought people to the screen and made them wait for the match with excitement. People and the history of sports need such beautiful moments.

There are very few moments when people experience such excitement together. This match allowed people who have never watched a boxing match in their lives but know the name Mike Tyson to come to the screen and watch the match.

If the goal was to make money, it was won. If the goal was for the match to end without one side being knocked out, it was over. If the goal was for a large number of viewers in the world to watch an event at the same time, it was successful. In my opinion, the match achieved its goal.
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I will still put faith in him if he's going to fight a real fight with Jack Paul again and again because I don't think Jack Paul is that strong to defeat him if the fight wasn't scripted. Hold on a minute, are you in any way thinking that Jack Paul punches can actually bring down Mike Tyson? I watched the fight from the beginning till it ended though I wasn't expecting what I saw because Mike Tyson is a great fighter I wasn't expecting Jack Paul to have dominated him in the fight regardless of their age difference, I have accepted the outcome of the fight but nothing has changed in my believe that it was not a real fight.
The interesting part that made people confused is that we have seen Mike train before this fight, we have seen him punch bags and such just like any other training. However, we haven't seen him try to hit Jake like that once. I once saw him hit a punching bag so hard that I felt like Jake would be taken to hospital on a stretcher, those videos made people confused.

Now of course, Jake is not a punching bag and he moves around and had the reach advantage, but that doesn't mean that we are going to see Mike be any bad. People just wanted to see Mike hit Jake once like that, all those videos were good but they had to mean something and if they were to mean something then we would really end up trying to figure out how to make this work somehow.

In the end, reaching to a new level of entertainment means a rematch would be great. Surely people got bored on this fight, but it would still be a lot of money for a lot of people without a doubt.
The fight was boring and the transmission over Netflix was terrible, we do not need more of this, I really hope that people realize this was a scripted fight and nothing else, and how they should stop giving so much money to people that do not deserve it, because as much as Tyson was such a good boxer on his prime and that I can understand he is nowhere near that level at his age, it is difficult for me to believe that this is all what he could do against an influencer.
Yes, tons of people or boxing fans or even to those bettors who did make out that huge bet into him and on how this exhibition turned out. You could really be able to expect that there are tons of people who do expect that Mike would be able to win up the fight but ending up on the opposite thing. It is really that staged in the first place. Arent people aware of this stuff? It did really just that turned out that it was really that too obvious on what Mike is really that doing. You could be able to see those tons of opportunities on making up some jabs but ending up on having those kind of weaving movement and not throwing punches at all. hahaha. You could be able to spot out that there are tons of chances that he could be able to knock out that Jake paul but since we are talking $20M for the show then he just cant.  Cheesy
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I will still put faith in him if he's going to fight a real fight with Jack Paul again and again because I don't think Jack Paul is that strong to defeat him if the fight wasn't scripted. Hold on a minute, are you in any way thinking that Jack Paul punches can actually bring down Mike Tyson? I watched the fight from the beginning till it ended though I wasn't expecting what I saw because Mike Tyson is a great fighter I wasn't expecting Jack Paul to have dominated him in the fight regardless of their age difference, I have accepted the outcome of the fight but nothing has changed in my believe that it was not a real fight.
The interesting part that made people confused is that we have seen Mike train before this fight, we have seen him punch bags and such just like any other training. However, we haven't seen him try to hit Jake like that once. I once saw him hit a punching bag so hard that I felt like Jake would be taken to hospital on a stretcher, those videos made people confused.

Now of course, Jake is not a punching bag and he moves around and had the reach advantage, but that doesn't mean that we are going to see Mike be any bad. People just wanted to see Mike hit Jake once like that, all those videos were good but they had to mean something and if they were to mean something then we would really end up trying to figure out how to make this work somehow.

In the end, reaching to a new level of entertainment means a rematch would be great. Surely people got bored on this fight, but it would still be a lot of money for a lot of people without a doubt.
The fight was boring and the transmission over Netflix was terrible, we do not need more of this, I really hope that people realize this was a scripted fight and nothing else, and how they should stop giving so much money to people that do not deserve it, because as much as Tyson was such a good boxer on his prime and that I can understand he is nowhere near that level at his age, it is difficult for me to believe that this is all what he could do against an influencer.
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I will still put faith in him if he's going to fight a real fight with Jack Paul again and again because I don't think Jack Paul is that strong to defeat him if the fight wasn't scripted. Hold on a minute, are you in any way thinking that Jack Paul punches can actually bring down Mike Tyson? I watched the fight from the beginning till it ended though I wasn't expecting what I saw because Mike Tyson is a great fighter I wasn't expecting Jack Paul to have dominated him in the fight regardless of their age difference, I have accepted the outcome of the fight but nothing has changed in my believe that it was not a real fight.
The interesting part that made people confused is that we have seen Mike train before this fight, we have seen him punch bags and such just like any other training. However, we haven't seen him try to hit Jake like that once. I once saw him hit a punching bag so hard that I felt like Jake would be taken to hospital on a stretcher, those videos made people confused.

Now of course, Jake is not a punching bag and he moves around and had the reach advantage, but that doesn't mean that we are going to see Mike be any bad. People just wanted to see Mike hit Jake once like that, all those videos were good but they had to mean something and if they were to mean something then we would really end up trying to figure out how to make this work somehow.

In the end, reaching to a new level of entertainment means a rematch would be great. Surely people got bored on this fight, but it would still be a lot of money for a lot of people without a doubt.
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Yes, we give Mike his credit and due in this fight, but we all know that he is not going to win against a young fighter in Jake Paul. Others including me are disappointed as there are no more actions in the ring between the two.

If you knew that old is not going to win against young, why are you disappointed with the result? Either you wanted to Mike to be knocked out after being exhausted. Or expected a top high speed performance from an old man. Even though the fight was claimed to be a professional, with special rules, it still looked like an exhibition with nuances. From my point of view, the idea of this fight was to see legendary boxer once again in the ring, then to see one boxer is devastating his opponent.

We can't take away people from being disappointed here, if you look at the thread, majority wanted for Mike to win this contest despite his age. He is sort of the sentimental favorites and we almost believed that. Because during the pre-fight, we've seen in the videos that he is working very hard and we thought that, "why not, maybe he can still pull the trigger here".

But that the back of our minds, we all know that Mike will get tired and that's what happens here. And during the fight itself, there is no round that we thought that Mike can win. Yes, rounds 1-2 we score it for him, but there are no movements at all, that spark inside the ring that fans are going to remember in this fight. That's why there are a strong sentiments that this is a obvious set up, no knockout win by either side.
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Yes, we give Mike his credit and due in this fight, but we all know that he is not going to win against a young fighter in Jake Paul. Others including me are disappointed as there are no more actions in the ring between the two.

If you knew that old is not going to win against young, why are you disappointed with the result? Either you wanted to Mike to be knocked out after being exhausted. Or expected a top high speed performance from an old man. Even though the fight was claimed to be a professional, with special rules, it still looked like an exhibition with nuances. From my point of view, the idea of this fight was to see legendary boxer once again in the ring, then to see one boxer is devastating his opponent.
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It was like Tyson said recently, regardless of the outcome of the fight ,he won, since he almost died during an ulcera crisis, having to receive 8 bags of blood and lost 11kg in the hospital,. Being back in the ring and enduring everything was practically a miracle, and he can give his children the opportunity to watch him step into the boxing ring again. Although the event was an exhibition, I think everyone won, Jake Paul, Tyson, Netflix and the audience that watched the fight all over the world.
I watched this legendary fight. Tyson showed himself at the highest level at such an age. I am even surprised that he was able to last so many rounds. You have to give him credit. The man is a legend. There is nothing more to say. But Paul should be more modest. He looks more like an upstart.

Yes, no one argues with the fact that all this is part of a PR campaign. There is simply no way around it. I am interested in another question. Why did they pay Mike half as much? Doesn't he deserve more?

I'm not sure what you meant, but Mike Tyson received a whopping $20 million in this one fight alone and this could be his biggest paycheck for all we know. Yes, he did last for the whole duration of the fight, but if you look closely, his punch output is going down after round two. So you can deduce that he is tiring, and tiring very quick and fast because of his old age.

Yes, we give Mike his credit and due in this fight, but we all know that he is not going to win against a young fighter in Jake Paul. Others including me are disappointed as there are no more actions in the ring between the two.
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Picture makes no sense, as all those grandpas and grandmas are not athletes. If they were retired old martial artists who were champions or were on hype in past Jake would throw down a challenge Cheesy

But you people make fun of Jake incorrectly. He isnt challenging pensioners. He is challenging anyone who would bring him money. Whether it be Canelo next, or random guy in the mall. If people are ready to pay for watching it, if sponsors ready to pay him millions, he will fight anyone.

Perhaps it was the sarcasm in that picture, that Jake Paul only fights those former boxer or UFC fighters that are old and senile.

And since you mentioned Canelo and he called him out, maybe that will be the plan because I do not see anyone bigger that Mike Tyson that can bring that money to Jake Paul and Netflix. But Canelo is still very much active as a pro fighter, he still the undisputed MW champion so I doubt that he will just go ditch that out and fight Jake, unless their will be offer in Canelo table's that he can't refuse.
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Picture makes no sense, as all those grandpas and grandmas are not athletes. If they were retired old martial artists who were champions or were on hype in past Jake would throw down a challenge Cheesy

But you people make fun of Jake incorrectly. He isnt challenging pensioners. He is challenging anyone who would bring him money. Whether it be Canelo next, or random guy in the mall. If people are ready to pay for watching it, if sponsors ready to pay him millions, he will fight anyone.
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