[Boxing profanation] Jake Paul Vs Mike Tyson - 15th November

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Another twist on Mike Tyson here.

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Mike Tyson, 58, made his professional boxing comeback last month when he had a bout against YouTuber-turned-boxer Jake Paul at AT&T Stadium in Texas. However, despite raking in millions (around $20m (£15.6m), the boxing legend now faces circumstances where he could lose a percentage of his earnings.

This is because Tyson is being sued in a London court for nearly $1.6 million (£1.25m) for allegedly breaking a deal to promote a gambling company after agreeing to fight Paul.

"Medier, a Cyprus-registered company that promotes online casino and betting company Rabona, is suing the former heavyweight champion and his company Tyrannic for allegedly reneging on the deal, which was agreed in January," reported Reuters.

https://www.msn.com/en-in/sports/boxing/mike-tyson-sued-for-1-600-000-over-jake-paul-fight-boxing-legend-responds/ar-AA1vrFHA

It's not big of money as compare to what he get fighting Jake Paul. But still a million is a million. So who knows, maybe Tyson will try to make the rematch as the amount being offered to him is huge.

What do you think about this lawsuit though? Will Mike able to win this one in court?

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The idea of a $700 million rematch between Mike Tyson and Jake Paul seems more like a publicity stunt than a realistic offer. While the Saudi backers have deep pockets, such a figure is unprecedented in boxing, and many fans remain skeptical of the first fight's authenticity. If this rematch were to happen, it would need to be a real contest to regain any credibility, as the scripted nature of the first match left many feeling disappointed.

Quote from: Kemarit on December 07, 2024, 07:22:54 PM

He is obviously being paid by Netflix and Jake Paul himself because his company MVP, has co-promoted this fight. But as far as there are scripts to be followed just like what we are debating because they have been news about it, we can only speculate about it.

Streaming rights would also play a significant role. With Netflix and DAZN vying for dominance in boxing broadcasts, negotiations could become as much of a spectacle as the fight itself. The Saudis' involvement shows how far they're willing to go to attract global attention, but whether that translates to a genuine fight remains to be seen.

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Quote from: goldkingcoiner on December 05, 2024, 02:45:22 PM

Jake Paul most probably paid off Mike Tyson, and since Mike Tyson no longer has anything left to prove, I guess he must have decided that the money was worth it. I just wonder how much money he could have gotten...

He is obviously being paid by Netflix and Jake Paul himself because his company MVP, has co-promoted this fight. But as far as there are scripts to be followed just like what we are debating because they have been news about it, we can only speculate about it.

Quote from: goldkingcoiner on December 05, 2024, 02:45:22 PM

I still believe that Jake Paul would never be able to take down Mike Tyson, if it was a real fight.

Mike Tyson is 58 years old during this fight, and so think about some 58 years old fighting a young man.

Quote from: goldkingcoiner on December 05, 2024, 02:45:22 PM

If anything, this match just made me more skeptical about the authenticity of modern boxing....

Although this fight tell us that it's considered as pro-fight with all the rules to accommodated it, for me this is still very much an exhibition and could not be treated as a regular boxing fights. There are fights like Fury vs Usyk this December, I urge you to watch about it and see if it's authentic.

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Jake Paul most probably paid off Mike Tyson, and since Mike Tyson no longer has anything left to prove, I guess he must have decided that the money was worth it. I just wonder how much money he could have gotten...

I still believe that Jake Paul would never be able to take down Mike Tyson, if it was a real fight.

If anything, this match just made me more skeptical about the authenticity of modern boxing....

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on December 05, 2024, 12:30:32 PM

I'm reading that Saudi Arabia wants a rematch and offered 700m $ as prize.
This is crazy, how they can say no.

Assuming it is true, it will happen but where? Netflix? I doubt they want to use an American Tv Network

I'm not sure where the Saudi's are affiliated though, but if I'm not mistaken, they are with DAZN as far as PPV goes, so if this supposedly rematch happen, it could be that DAZN is the one that is going to cover this fight.

But it's hard to assume as Jake might have sign a contract with Netflix as well with his MVP promotions to have his fight and fights that he handled to be on Netflix. As we all know, Netflix is also trying to get a big piece of that pie in boxing, so it's going to be a very hard negotiations as well as who will bring the rights to show this fight if ever it will happen in the future.

Yes, we all know that numbers is crazy and it's the first time that we have heard it. And that's how big the Saudi are as far as bringing boxing fights for fans.

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on December 05, 2024, 12:30:32 PM

I'm reading that Saudi Arabia wants a rematch and offered 700m $ as prize.
This is crazy, how they can say no.

Assuming it is true, it will happen but where? Netflix? I doubt they want to use an American Tv Network

It is not really their fault but the consumer, I remember reading a book about music long time ago, and the author asked a musician why the music of today seemed to be uninspired compared to the past, and the answer he got was along the lines of ‘When shit sells like gold, making gold will just delay you.’ So I do not blame promoters and boxers for giving people exactly what they want, I blame the fans for actually wanting a rematch bad enough that such a massive amount of money can be made out of it by all the participants.

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I'm reading that Saudi Arabia wants a rematch and offered 700m $ as prize.
This is crazy, how they can say no.

Assuming it is true, it will happen but where? Netflix? I doubt they want to use an American Tv Network

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Quote from: cabron on December 04, 2024, 12:56:31 PM

Well if Alalshikh is asking for it, Mike should give it a go. He could just work together with Jake after all they have been good partners already.

Some could call it scamming, some could call it taking advantage of a poorly thought-through offer. If Alalshikh was serious about that (which he isn't), he would have to offer Mike $700m for KOing Jake within the first 3 minutes and, at the same time, offering Jake $700m for surviving the first 3 minutes. Then we would have more chances of the fight being legit. It would still be weird to watch a fight contracted to only one round because, past that point, the result would hardly matter.

Alasshikh is merely chasing clout with that offer; he is well aware that Tyson has a little chance of knocking out Jake in three minutes; this is not a video game where one can cheat to defeat an opponent in a couple of minutes; we are talking about an old PRO versus a younger emerging boxer.

Even if Jake receives the same offer, there is no way Jake will be able to knock out Tyson in three minutes. For those of you asking both boxers to fix the game and share the prize money, this will not work; a true boxer fan knows a real fight, and if one or both are found to be fixing the game, they will be banned and the funds confiscated.

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Quote from: cabron on December 04, 2024, 12:56:31 PM

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It's like scamming Alalshikh. Mike and Jake teaming up once again. They already are accused of rigging their first fight and yet Alalshikh wants them a rematch.?
Well if Alalshikh is asking for it, Mike should give it a go. He could just work together with Jake after all they have been good partners already.

Some could call it scamming, some could call it taking advantage of a poorly thought-through offer. If Alalshikh was serious about that (which he isn't), he would have to offer Mike $700m for KOing Jake within the first 3 minutes and, at the same time, offering Jake $700m for surviving the first 3 minutes. Then we would have more chances of the fight being legit. It would still be weird to watch a fight contracted to only one round because, past that point, the result would hardly matter.

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Quote from: cabron on December 04, 2024, 12:56:31 PM

Quote from: pawel7777 on December 04, 2024, 12:04:49 PM

allow Mike to get what he wants and both could split the money afterwards.

That sounds like a better plan Grin

$700M! Damn! That kind of opportunity doesn't come by every day.

Lol, but yeah, that's also my first impression when I read that kind of money that the Saudi are willing to negotiate for the rematch.

Quote from: cabron on December 04, 2024, 12:56:31 PM

It's like scamming Alalshikh. Mike and Jake teaming up once again. They already are accused of rigging their first fight and yet Alalshikh wants them a rematch.?
Well if Alalshikh is asking for it, Mike should give it a go. He could just work together with Jake after all they have been good partners already.

For sure Turki Alalshikh might have lost a lot of money already from the boxing match that he has set. It's not that the match up is bad, but perhaps he spend too much money for everything including paycheck after paycheck from the biggest boxers that we have right now specially from welterweight up to the heavyweight division. But they have a lot of money to throw and to burn, so it doesn't matter if they will be scam again by Jake Paul and Mike Tyson.

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Quote from: pawel7777 on December 04, 2024, 12:04:49 PM

allow Mike to get what he wants and both could split the money afterwards.

That sounds like a better plan Grin

$700M! Damn! That kind of opportunity doesn't come by every day.

It's like scamming Alalshikh. Mike and Jake teaming up once again. They already are accused of rigging their first fight and yet Alalshikh wants them a rematch.?
Well if Alalshikh is asking for it, Mike should give it a go. He could just work together with Jake after all they have been good partners already.

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Quote from: pawel7777 on December 04, 2024, 12:04:49 PM

Quote from: btc_angela on December 03, 2024, 06:52:38 PM

That is huge offer for Mike Tyson and for sure he won't refuse it, but the question is, can he do that. Because if we go with that no script in the first fight, then we can see that he can't pull the trigger, although others might argue that there is a script that Tyson cannot win by KO.

And with that, maybe the rich powerful broker is willing to pay Mike huge money, but he should go out 100% in the fight. No more holding or simply just go on with the rounds and not pushing for a win. But let's see, maybe talks are already been the background for this one.

Let's be real, $700m is huge money even considering how wealthy the Saudis are.
Talk is cheap though, Alalshikh venting out and speculating about making such a huge offer is one thing, and actually making it happen is another one. If he was serious about organising the rematch, he would need much less than $700m. I'm sure both would agree to do it for $50m each (or less).
Plus, Alalshikh mentioned that he would pay Mike that much only if he was to KO Paul within 3 minutes, in which case all Jake would have to do is just to keep running away for 3 minutes, or allow Mike to get what he wants and both could split the money afterwards.

Yeah, I also thought that in the beginning it was just $70 million, but it turns out to be $700 million. But I do agree that it's really huge money that we haven't talk in boxing. And if I'm not mistaken, the biggest could be just around $100 million, but not sure if that happen or what.

But let's see if there will be rematch sponsored by the Saudi's. But I doubt though that they are willing to offer that big amount of money. Most likely what you said as well, $50 million and I think that is far as reported that Mike received $20 million. So it will double his previous paycheck and it could be a offer that he can't refused.

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Quote from: btc_angela on December 03, 2024, 06:52:38 PM

That is huge offer for Mike Tyson and for sure he won't refuse it, but the question is, can he do that. Because if we go with that no script in the first fight, then we can see that he can't pull the trigger, although others might argue that there is a script that Tyson cannot win by KO.

And with that, maybe the rich powerful broker is willing to pay Mike huge money, but he should go out 100% in the fight. No more holding or simply just go on with the rounds and not pushing for a win. But let's see, maybe talks are already been the background for this one.

Let's be real, $700m is huge money even considering how wealthy the Saudis are.
Talk is cheap though, Alalshikh venting out and speculating about making such a huge offer is one thing, and actually making it happen is another one. If he was serious about organising the rematch, he would need much less than $700m. I'm sure both would agree to do it for $50m each (or less).
Plus, Alalshikh mentioned that he would pay Mike that much only if he was to KO Paul within 3 minutes, in which case all Jake would have to do is just to keep running away for 3 minutes, or allow Mike to get what he wants and both could split the money afterwards.

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Quote from: Dave1 on December 02, 2024, 07:39:42 AM

That is huge, it's only a boxer dream to have that kind of contract, and the closest if I'm not mistaken is Canelo with $300++ with DAZN before but with multiple fights. So it doesn't make sense that they are going to offer this kind of money just for 1 fight only.

And also the Saudi has the money and deep pockets, but will it give something in return for them? Will they double they money if they shell out that huge money to have this fight happen in their country?

I thought Baofeng made a typo, and he actually meant $70 million, which would also be huge, but I've just googled it and media indeed are reporting on the $700m offer:
https://www.marca.com/en/boxing/2024/12/03/674efe75ca474115218b459d.html

But it sounds like it was more of a casual comment by Turki Alalshikh than any official offer, and he also mentioned that it would be contingent on Tyson KOing Paul within 3 minutes:

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"[Alalshikh] stating, 'Jake Paul is a joke. I am giving Mike Tyson $700 million if he agrees to fight Jake Paul this time in a real fight and wins by KO in a maximum of 3 minutes.'"

So yeah, I don't expect we will actually see a rematch, and that's probably for the best.

That is huge offer for Mike Tyson and for sure he won't refuse it, but the question is, can he do that. Because if we go with that no script in the first fight, then we can see that he can't pull the trigger, although others might argue that there is a script that Tyson cannot win by KO.

And with that, maybe the rich powerful broker is willing to pay Mike huge money, but he should go out 100% in the fight. No more holding or simply just go on with the rounds and not pushing for a win. But let's see, maybe talks are already been the background for this one.

If media is reporting it, at least they could have a source about it.

It just takes the fun out of it when you make it all about the money as Jake Paul touts and is proud of calling himself the money man or whatever he says lol. I think if it was staged that it was a trade off for Tyson for sure, one he willingly made though. That's a lot of cash and he will live it down. Maybe he will even admit that it was a stage way down the road when the NDA expires lmao.

There's fun in it though, because we will see if Mike is just trying to hold his power against Jake Paul. And if the Saudi is true to their offer and Mike accepts it, then it's a real fight and so that's where the fun will begin, as Jake might be in trouble here.

Nevertheless, we don't know if either party are going to accept that proposition from Turki, to make the fight as real as it gets and no more script and each own will go for break and try to score a knockout win. So that the fans is going to get their money's worth unlike the first one in which we are still debating whether it looks like it because there's no knockout or knockdown and with that, everyone was scammed by this big fight, specially those who bet on Mike Tyson.

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Quote from: btc_angela on December 03, 2024, 06:52:38 PM

Quote from: pawel7777 on December 03, 2024, 03:23:11 PM

Quote from: Dave1 on December 02, 2024, 07:39:42 AM

That is huge, it's only a boxer dream to have that kind of contract, and the closest if I'm not mistaken is Canelo with $300++ with DAZN before but with multiple fights. So it doesn't make sense that they are going to offer this kind of money just for 1 fight only.

And also the Saudi has the money and deep pockets, but will it give something in return for them? Will they double they money if they shell out that huge money to have this fight happen in their country?

I thought Baofeng made a typo, and he actually meant $70 million, which would also be huge, but I've just googled it and media indeed are reporting on the $700m offer:
https://www.marca.com/en/boxing/2024/12/03/674efe75ca474115218b459d.html

But it sounds like it was more of a casual comment by Turki Alalshikh than any official offer, and he also mentioned that it would be contingent on Tyson KOing Paul within 3 minutes:

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"[Alalshikh] stating, 'Jake Paul is a joke. I am giving Mike Tyson $700 million if he agrees to fight Jake Paul this time in a real fight and wins by KO in a maximum of 3 minutes.'"

So yeah, I don't expect we will actually see a rematch, and that's probably for the best.

That is huge offer for Mike Tyson and for sure he won't refuse it, but the question is, can he do that. Because if we go with that no script in the first fight, then we can see that he can't pull the trigger, although others might argue that there is a script that Tyson cannot win by KO.

And with that, maybe the rich powerful broker is willing to pay Mike huge money, but he should go out 100% in the fight. No more holding or simply just go on with the rounds and not pushing for a win. But let's see, maybe talks are already been the background for this one.

If media is reporting it, at least they could have a source about it.

It just takes the fun out of it when you make it all about the money as Jake Paul touts and is proud of calling himself the money man or whatever he says lol. I think if it was staged that it was a trade off for Tyson for sure, one he willingly made though. That's a lot of cash and he will live it down. Maybe he will even admit that it was a stage way down the road when the NDA expires lmao.

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Quote from: pawel7777 on December 03, 2024, 03:23:11 PM

Quote from: Dave1 on December 02, 2024, 07:39:42 AM

That is huge, it's only a boxer dream to have that kind of contract, and the closest if I'm not mistaken is Canelo with $300++ with DAZN before but with multiple fights. So it doesn't make sense that they are going to offer this kind of money just for 1 fight only.

And also the Saudi has the money and deep pockets, but will it give something in return for them? Will they double they money if they shell out that huge money to have this fight happen in their country?

I thought Baofeng made a typo, and he actually meant $70 million, which would also be huge, but I've just googled it and media indeed are reporting on the $700m offer:
https://www.marca.com/en/boxing/2024/12/03/674efe75ca474115218b459d.html

But it sounds like it was more of a casual comment by Turki Alalshikh than any official offer, and he also mentioned that it would be contingent on Tyson KOing Paul within 3 minutes:

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"[Alalshikh] stating, 'Jake Paul is a joke. I am giving Mike Tyson $700 million if he agrees to fight Jake Paul this time in a real fight and wins by KO in a maximum of 3 minutes.'"

So yeah, I don't expect we will actually see a rematch, and that's probably for the best.

That is huge offer for Mike Tyson and for sure he won't refuse it, but the question is, can he do that. Because if we go with that no script in the first fight, then we can see that he can't pull the trigger, although others might argue that there is a script that Tyson cannot win by KO.

And with that, maybe the rich powerful broker is willing to pay Mike huge money, but he should go out 100% in the fight. No more holding or simply just go on with the rounds and not pushing for a win. But let's see, maybe talks are already been the background for this one.

If media is reporting it, at least they could have a source about it.

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Quote from: Dave1 on December 02, 2024, 07:39:42 AM

That is huge, it's only a boxer dream to have that kind of contract, and the closest if I'm not mistaken is Canelo with $300++ with DAZN before but with multiple fights. So it doesn't make sense that they are going to offer this kind of money just for 1 fight only.

And also the Saudi has the money and deep pockets, but will it give something in return for them? Will they double they money if they shell out that huge money to have this fight happen in their country?

I thought Baofeng made a typo, and he actually meant $70 million, which would also be huge, but I've just googled it and media indeed are reporting on the $700m offer:
https://www.marca.com/en/boxing/2024/12/03/674efe75ca474115218b459d.html

But it sounds like it was more of a casual comment by Turki Alalshikh than any official offer, and he also mentioned that it would be contingent on Tyson KOing Paul within 3 minutes:

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"[Alalshikh] stating, 'Jake Paul is a joke. I am giving Mike Tyson $700 million if he agrees to fight Jake Paul this time in a real fight and wins by KO in a maximum of 3 minutes.'"

So yeah, I don't expect we will actually see a rematch, and that's probably for the best.

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What do you guys think of this idea of a rematch?

I'm not fan of the rematch to be honest, we've been deceived once, so I guess that's already good enough for us fans. But if they proceed, then what can we do? It's either we don't patronize the fight or don't bet on it.

But if it's going to be on Netflix again, I guess for us subscribers we might take that chance to see the fight.

We would refuse though if the news is true that $700 million will be in the line for this fight? Maybe it's the total package that Turki might be offering for this fight, and Tyson again getting a good pay, while Jake Paul and his company will handle the promotions together with Netflix.

$700 mills cash pool for the rematch?? There's no way in the world this is true.
I can't even imagine who would really be interested in watching their rematch. The biggest selling point was a curiosity about how Mike would perform at his age against a showman who has only fought one professional boxer (and I'm giving Tommy Fury way too much credit here). Once we know that, there's hardly any selling point there.

That is huge, it's only a boxer dream to have that kind of contract, and the closest if I'm not mistaken is Canelo with $300++ with DAZN before but with multiple fights. So it doesn't make sense that they are going to offer this kind of money just for 1 fight only.

And also the Saudi has the money and deep pockets, but will it give something in return for them? Will they double they money if they shell out that huge money to have this fight happen in their country?

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on November 30, 2024, 08:22:16 AM

Not really a boxing game.
It was just a makemoney show.

I have read that they got 60 mil 40 for the winner and 20 for the loser are prize.

Not counting also the personal sponsor they got...

I can't do anything but agree with what you said. However, I guess Jake Paul and Mike Tyson aren't the only ones who have done this. If I'm not mistaken, the first one to initiate events like this was Mayweather when he fought Conor McGregor in the boxing ring. The same goes for Manny Pacquiao, who has had many exhibition matches — if I'm not mistaken, he’s had about 3 to 5 matches, and all of those were surely for the money.

Guess every exhibition fight we see is for makemoney show. We cannot get intense substance with it if we are looking for physicality since that matches cannot provide those intense factor that we want to see on match.

I think that is the very definition of exhibition matches, we might like the fight as it could be controversial and the magnitude of the fighters themselves. But at the end of the day, it is still mismatching and everything is for fun and entertainment and money grab.

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People watching it is just curious to know how the legend is doing and if they are capable to fight. If they lose or win its fine nothing change, we see this kind of approach happen on Jake Paul vs Mike Tyson fight and for sure this change the landscape of betting since I believe there are so many people lose their bets when they place it on Tyson.

That's what I'm trying to say, there is a controversy in this fight, that's why people bought tickets and watch if see if Mike Tyson can win or knock out Jake Paul. But if logic dictates, Mike is old already and can't pull a punch combination except during his trainings and we all fall for it.

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And as much as we hate Oscar Dela Hoya, he is spot on with regards to this fight, go watch it below.

https://www.instagram.com/p/DCqU-rExvIf/

Most of this opinions are what we saw in the Mike Tyson vs Jake Paul fight.

And he has some strong points too with how boxing is right now and why we are not seeing the best fighting the best. Although it looks like he is still butt-hurt with Canelo Alvarez as he continue to attack him.

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