[Boxing profanation] Jake Paul Vs Mike Tyson - 15th November - page 2.

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Quote from: xLays on November 30, 2024, 06:39:37 PM

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Not really a boxing game.
It was just a makemoney show.

I have read that they got 60 mil 40 for the winner and 20 for the loser are prize.

Not counting also the personal sponsor they got...

I can't do anything but agree with what you said. However, I guess Jake Paul and Mike Tyson aren't the only ones who have done this. If I'm not mistaken, the first one to initiate events like this was Mayweather when he fought Conor McGregor in the boxing ring. The same goes for Manny Pacquiao, who has had many exhibition matches — if I'm not mistaken, he’s had about 3 to 5 matches, and all of those were surely for the money.

Exhibition or not, everything comes with money and its impossible that those fighters/athletes wont really be minding up that much about on how much money that they would really be able to generate.
Usually retired boxers are really that doing this but of course they will really be needing up that title on which being a champion or being legendary on which they could potentially be able to make
that huge money with exhibition and it is really that one of the perks on having that good title.

We've been continuing with this kind of set up on which as long there's a demand and huge crowd/fan interest on certain fights then they will really be trying out to make arrangement to make it happen. Its a win win situation for them on which the ill really be just that needing up dance above in the canvass and not exerting all of their efforts.

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Quote from: xLays on November 30, 2024, 06:39:37 PM

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Not really a boxing game.
It was just a makemoney show.

I have read that they got 60 mil 40 for the winner and 20 for the loser are prize.

Not counting also the personal sponsor they got...

I can't do anything but agree with what you said. However, I guess Jake Paul and Mike Tyson aren't the only ones who have done this. If I'm not mistaken, the first one to initiate events like this was Mayweather when he fought Conor McGregor in the boxing ring. The same goes for Manny Pacquiao, who has had many exhibition matches — if I'm not mistaken, he’s had about 3 to 5 matches, and all of those were surely for the money.

Guess every exhibition fight we see is for makemoney show. We cannot get intense substance with it if we are looking for physicality since that matches cannot provide those intense factor that we want to see on match.

People watching it is just curious to know how the legend is doing and if they are capable to fight. If they lose or win its fine nothing change, we see this kind of approach happen on Jake Paul vs Mike Tyson fight and for sure this change the landscape of betting since I believe there are so many people lose their bets when they place it on Tyson.

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on November 30, 2024, 08:22:16 AM

Not really a boxing game.
It was just a makemoney show.

I have read that they got 60 mil 40 for the winner and 20 for the loser are prize.

Not counting also the personal sponsor they got...

I can't do anything but agree with what you said. However, I guess Jake Paul and Mike Tyson aren't the only ones who have done this. If I'm not mistaken, the first one to initiate events like this was Mayweather when he fought Conor McGregor in the boxing ring. The same goes for Manny Pacquiao, who has had many exhibition matches — if I'm not mistaken, he’s had about 3 to 5 matches, and all of those were surely for the money.

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Quote from: Baofeng on November 30, 2024, 08:16:04 AM

Quote from: TravelMug on November 30, 2024, 02:45:21 AM

What do you guys think of this idea of a rematch?

I'm not fan of the rematch to be honest, we've been deceived once, so I guess that's already good enough for us fans. But if they proceed, then what can we do? It's either we don't patronize the fight or don't bet on it.

But if it's going to be on Netflix again, I guess for us subscribers we might take that chance to see the fight.

We would refuse though if the news is true that $700 million will be in the line for this fight? Maybe it's the total package that Turki might be offering for this fight, and Tyson again getting a good pay, while Jake Paul and his company will handle the promotions together with Netflix.

$700 mills cash pool for the rematch?? There's no way in the world this is true.
I can't even imagine who would really be interested in watching their rematch. The biggest selling point was a curiosity about how Mike would perform at his age against a showman who has only fought one professional boxer (and I'm giving Tommy Fury way too much credit here). Once we know that, there's hardly any selling point there.

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Not really a boxing game.
It was just a makemoney show.

I have read that they got 60 mil 40 for the winner and 20 for the loser are prize.

Not counting also the personal sponsor they got...

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Quote from: TravelMug on November 30, 2024, 02:45:21 AM

What do you guys think of this idea of a rematch?

I'm not fan of the rematch to be honest, we've been deceived once, so I guess that's already good enough for us fans. But if they proceed, then what can we do? It's either we don't patronize the fight or don't bet on it.

But if it's going to be on Netflix again, I guess for us subscribers we might take that chance to see the fight.

We would refuse though if the news is true that $700 million will be in the line for this fight? Maybe it's the total package that Turki might be offering for this fight, and Tyson again getting a good pay, while Jake Paul and his company will handle the promotions together with Netflix.

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Quote from: Maslate on November 30, 2024, 05:44:10 AM

Quote from: TravelMug on November 30, 2024, 02:45:21 AM

Anyone here of this news?

"Loser gets 0" - MMA X erupts over rumored $700 million KO bounty for potential Mike Tyson vs. Jake Paul rematch.

And according to the report, HE Turki Alalshikh, will be involved. We all know that he is this powerful broker in boxing now. As he held a lot of great boxing fans in Saudi in the last couple of years.

They have the money to back it up, that's why everyone in boxing is like into his payroll, including most of the boxing promoters and obviously the best fighters that we have right now. If this pushes thorough, it could be the biggest boxing even money wise.

What do you guys think of this idea of a rematch?

Is he serious? Why would anyone want to see a rematch when it’s clear Mike Tyson can’t keep up with a young Jake Paul? What are they aiming for here? To build up some overhyped spectacle for a fight where we already know the outcome? If this happens, it’ll just end the same way, or worse, Tyson could get KO’d and seriously hurt. Nobody wants that, right? Unless, of course, they’re scripting everything to make sure Tyson doesn’t get hurt badly.

Now, if we’re talking about big money, why not put that towards a real fight? How about Canelo vs. Jake Paul? There’s already a rumor they might face off, and honestly, that sounds way more interesting. Let’s go with that instead!

It's all about the money, not sure how big the money that it has generated, but for sure Netflix and Jake Paul's MVP might have made a lot of money here and so the Saudi's might want to have a piece of the pie and sponsor another rematch, after all they have tons of money to spend on boxing and so why not have this great sporting event in Saudi?

And no matter what, Mike might want to have a rematch. If in the first match it was reported that he made $20 million, perhaps in this rematch he could double that so he might agree and fight again and maybe they will have a storyline like Mike not really pushing himself and so if he is given a chance, he will knockout Jake Paul for good.

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Quote from: Taskford on November 29, 2024, 07:27:37 AM

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If people players knew that most of the fights are usually scripted, then they should not have bet on Mike because it should be clear that reverse will always be the case in such game.

I guess they would never told that the fight would became something like that since who will watch and bet on a predictable match?

For sure they would put something intense situation so that they could hype a lot of viewers. We see those good clips where Tyson train so hard and also Paul does the same. We see so many people is so confident that Tyson will win, but I guess those expectation didn't happen and Jake Paul goes home a victor. But anyways its still a good fight we see Tyson doing good despite of his age even if they call it a scripted match.

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Quote from: TravelMug on November 30, 2024, 02:45:21 AM

Anyone here of this news?

"Loser gets 0" - MMA X erupts over rumored $700 million KO bounty for potential Mike Tyson vs. Jake Paul rematch.

And according to the report, HE Turki Alalshikh, will be involved. We all know that he is this powerful broker in boxing now. As he held a lot of great boxing fans in Saudi in the last couple of years.

They have the money to back it up, that's why everyone in boxing is like into his payroll, including most of the boxing promoters and obviously the best fighters that we have right now. If this pushes thorough, it could be the biggest boxing even money wise.

What do you guys think of this idea of a rematch?

Is he serious? Why would anyone want to see a rematch when it’s clear Mike Tyson can’t keep up with a young Jake Paul? What are they aiming for here? To build up some overhyped spectacle for a fight where we already know the outcome? If this happens, it’ll just end the same way, or worse, Tyson could get KO’d and seriously hurt. Nobody wants that, right? Unless, of course, they’re scripting everything to make sure Tyson doesn’t get hurt badly.

Now, if we’re talking about big money, why not put that towards a real fight? How about Canelo vs. Jake Paul? There’s already a rumor they might face off, and honestly, that sounds way more interesting. Let’s go with that instead!

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^^ That is huge numbers to begin with, and for sure both of this fighters are going to accept that fight if that kind of money is being offered or in the table. For fans, hell yeah, when the Saudi involved themselves in boxing, we have seen a lot of great fights and we still have the Fury vs Usyk rematch in December.

On the other hand, there are those who criticized Turki as he likely wanted to take boxing and there are also reports that there will be no governing bodies if he wanted to as he want to model boxing like UFC. But let's see, that is a ambitious program by him and it will really take a lot of money to accomplished it.

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Anyone here of this news?

"Loser gets 0" - MMA X erupts over rumored $700 million KO bounty for potential Mike Tyson vs. Jake Paul rematch.

And according to the report, HE Turki Alalshikh, will be involved. We all know that he is this powerful broker in boxing now. As he held a lot of great boxing fans in Saudi in the last couple of years.

They have the money to back it up, that's why everyone in boxing is like into his payroll, including most of the boxing promoters and obviously the best fighters that we have right now. If this pushes thorough, it could be the biggest boxing even money wise.

What do you guys think of this idea of a rematch?

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Quote from: Obim34 on November 29, 2024, 10:04:35 AM

Quote from: Taskford on November 29, 2024, 07:27:37 AM

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Quote from: Kemarit on November 28, 2024, 04:30:48 PM

It's because on how Mike really market himself in this fight. There are a lot of videos of hype training very hard and then others saying that he is in the best shape of his life. He could be, but it's the question if he can pull the trigger or not. So definitely at 58 years old, he can't do it any more, he gets tired after the first two rounds and just showing a glimpse of himself throughout the 8 rounds.

You can call it that way, we've been deceived while Jake and Mike going to the bank and cashing it out. And now there are reports that the fight could have been scripted. But regardless, we know that Mike Tyson is not going to win this fight.

It's easy to say that the fight was scripted but difficult for many people to believe without a proof. I could easily guess it's scripted because I felt that with Mike's records and practices he can win but at same time we know that Mike's age was really something not to compare with a young energetic man. They caused a lot of gamblers their money.

See so many videos about showing the fight of Paul and Tyson is scripted.

There's a youtuber showing some good points about this fight here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvpm3XtclXw

But any of this its expected and the fight is already over so still respect to the legend since despite of his age he show up again to bring good show to his fans. People surely understand the result that's why he still earn their respect even if he lose

The both of them never went on full power, imagine Paul going very hard on Tyson who is as twice his age. Not compromising with the fact also that Tyson had the screen setup, even at his age i still believe he should have done better defending himself, i saw some late moves and avoided hits that should have helped inflict blows to Paul but he withdrew so many and just landed a bit of touch which is unlike him. What we saw was basically for our entertainment, it was never as serious the way it was aired in channels. Both really made fortunes from putting out that show, it would also go long way for Tyson knowing he lost much that he had and this is just another way to begin building back his finance.

For sure on which there's that control on which they are all fully aware that he's really that fighting with an old man/fighter but if you do really tend to look up on which Jake might almost that give it all and Mike wasnt been able to do so. When we do tend to look with those thrown punches then you could be able to tell that whose really that on advantage. Im not really that going totally with Mike on here but there's so much chance that we are seeing that he could KO Jake multiple times or make up that solid clean hit but it didnt happen. Why? they are here to make up some show and wont really be trying out to finish up the fight as early as possible, which it is really that understandable that there would really be that hold ups because of that possible unexpected results or outcome on which it is really out of their plan.

@OP, this fight is already over and it would really be just that right that this thread should be locked. I do saw that comments and feedbacks in regarding the fight is already that enough
or something that wont be that relevant anymore. Lets just focus into those upcoming shitty exhibition fights. lol

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Quote from: hilariousetc on November 28, 2024, 08:03:53 AM

Huh? There is no fight between them. I doubt IShowSpeed would get into the ring with Jake anyway and it's just clout chasing. I'm sure IShowSpeed will get into the ring at some point but probably not with Jake as a first fight.

I've been seeing those shitty graphics all over the place, you know the dude Ishowspeed is just everywhere chasing clout and all that, heard he's going to be competing in the next Olympics and all sort of BS.

Quote from: stadus on November 29, 2024, 10:21:35 AM

What are you saying? If that fight were scripted, then most likely Mike Tyson would win, because without a script, it’s unlikely he could pull it off. So, that only proves it wasn’t scripted, since the betting favorite won the fight. Honestly, only die-hard Tyson fans would believe the old man could beat the young, sensational boxer Jake Paul.

Not only Tyson fans, but those of us who watched him in his peak, believe he is capable of defeating anyone at any time. We neglected the reality that stamina and pace are important, and he no longer possesses those qualities. I used to believe it was scripted, but I've since realized otherwise.

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Quote from: Silberman on November 29, 2024, 01:13:51 PM

To add to this, it is wise to remember that the peak of Tyson did not last long, so even if he is considered to be one of the best heavyweight boxers which ever lived, he was only able to maintain that level for a few years, unlike with what we saw with fighters like George Foreman, which is the oldest person to win the heavyweight championship of the world, so if Foreman had staged a comeback when he was Tyson's age, I would be more willing to believe he had what was necessary to fight professionally and get some wins.

He had plenty of fights back then looking at his record - https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/474...

However, I think the main reason he has fewer fights compared to someone like Foreman is because he spent almost three years in jail. That time away from the sport was a major setback. Even though he fought more after his release, his momentum and career trajectory were undeniably affected.

Before going to jail, his record was nearly flawless with only one loss, which says a lot about how dominant he was. Being jailed wasn’t just a pause, it was the turning point of his career, and it’s hard not to wonder what could have been if those years hadn’t been taken away.

https://www.newsweek.com/why-mike-tayson-prison-1992-rape-conviction-1986774

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Quote from: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on November 29, 2024, 09:47:38 AM

If people players knew that most of the fights are usually scripted, then they should not have bet on Mike because it should be clear that reverse will always be the case in such game.

What are you saying? If that fight were scripted, then most likely Mike Tyson would win, because without a script, it’s unlikely he could pull it off. So, that only proves it wasn’t scripted, since the betting favorite won the fight. Honestly, only die-hard Tyson fans would believe the old man could beat the young, sensational boxer Jake Paul.

To add to this, it is wise to remember that the peak of Tyson did not last long, so even if he is considered to be one of the best heavyweight boxers which ever lived, he was only able to maintain that level for a few years, unlike with what we saw with fighters like George Foreman, which is the oldest person to win the heavyweight championship of the world, so if Foreman had staged a comeback when he was Tyson's age, I would be more willing to believe he had what was necessary to fight professionally and get some wins.

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Quote from: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on November 29, 2024, 09:47:38 AM

If people players knew that most of the fights are usually scripted, then they should not have bet on Mike because it should be clear that reverse will always be the case in such game.

What are you saying? If that fight were scripted, then most likely Mike Tyson would win, because without a script, it’s unlikely he could pull it off. So, that only proves it wasn’t scripted, since the betting favorite won the fight. Honestly, only die-hard Tyson fans would believe the old man could beat the young, sensational boxer Jake Paul.

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Quote from: Taskford on November 29, 2024, 07:27:37 AM

Quote from: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on November 29, 2024, 06:37:01 AM

Quote from: Kemarit on November 28, 2024, 04:30:48 PM

It's because on how Mike really market himself in this fight. There are a lot of videos of hype training very hard and then others saying that he is in the best shape of his life. He could be, but it's the question if he can pull the trigger or not. So definitely at 58 years old, he can't do it any more, he gets tired after the first two rounds and just showing a glimpse of himself throughout the 8 rounds.

You can call it that way, we've been deceived while Jake and Mike going to the bank and cashing it out. And now there are reports that the fight could have been scripted. But regardless, we know that Mike Tyson is not going to win this fight.

It's easy to say that the fight was scripted but difficult for many people to believe without a proof. I could easily guess it's scripted because I felt that with Mike's records and practices he can win but at same time we know that Mike's age was really something not to compare with a young energetic man. They caused a lot of gamblers their money.

See so many videos about showing the fight of Paul and Tyson is scripted.

There's a youtuber showing some good points about this fight here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvpm3XtclXw

But any of this its expected and the fight is already over so still respect to the legend since despite of his age he show up again to bring good show to his fans. People surely understand the result that's why he still earn their respect even if he lose

The both of them never went on full power, imagine Paul going very hard on Tyson who is as twice his age. Not compromising with the fact also that Tyson had the screen setup, even at his age i still believe he should have done better defending himself, i saw some late moves and avoided hits that should have helped inflict blows to Paul but he withdrew so many and just landed a bit of touch which is unlike him. What we saw was basically for our entertainment, it was never as serious the way it was aired in channels. Both really made fortunes from putting out that show, it would also go long way for Tyson knowing he lost much that he had and this is just another way to begin building back his finance.

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Quote from: Taskford on November 29, 2024, 07:27:37 AM

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If people players knew that most of the fights are usually scripted, then they should not have bet on Mike because it should be clear that reverse will always be the case in such game.

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Quote from: Taskford on November 29, 2024, 07:27:37 AM

Quote from: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on November 29, 2024, 06:37:01 AM

Quote from: Kemarit on November 28, 2024, 04:30:48 PM

It's because on how Mike really market himself in this fight. There are a lot of videos of hype training very hard and then others saying that he is in the best shape of his life. He could be, but it's the question if he can pull the trigger or not. So definitely at 58 years old, he can't do it any more, he gets tired after the first two rounds and just showing a glimpse of himself throughout the 8 rounds.

You can call it that way, we've been deceived while Jake and Mike going to the bank and cashing it out. And now there are reports that the fight could have been scripted. But regardless, we know that Mike Tyson is not going to win this fight.

It's easy to say that the fight was scripted but difficult for many people to believe without a proof. I could easily guess it's scripted because I felt that with Mike's records and practices he can win but at same time we know that Mike's age was really something not to compare with a young energetic man. They caused a lot of gamblers their money.

See so many videos about showing the fight of Paul and Tyson is scripted.

There's a youtuber showing some good points about this fight here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvpm3XtclXw

But any of this its expected and the fight is already over so still respect to the legend since despite of his age he show up again to bring good show to his fans. People surely understand the result that's why he still earn their respect even if he lose.

To those who had been saying about giving a good fight then they are really just that simply trying out to praise him but actually it was really that a total disappointment, because if we do try to look into those
moments on which he could actually be able to make clean hits but the punch was been that held off halfway, as if we do able to see obviously that he remembered that he wont be paid if he KO'ed Jake. lol

When it comes to exhibition fights then you could be able to expect that results or outcomes of the said fight will really be that something rigged or fixed. They do make exhibition just for show
and despite on obviously seeing on whose gonna win then it could be still giving out that opposite outcome. I have seen tons of people who had bet on Tyson did lose up big time
and just for example on what have been mentioned about on betting his life savings to Tyson? that is something which is really that devastative.

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Quote from: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on November 29, 2024, 06:37:01 AM

Quote from: Kemarit on November 28, 2024, 04:30:48 PM

It's because on how Mike really market himself in this fight. There are a lot of videos of hype training very hard and then others saying that he is in the best shape of his life. He could be, but it's the question if he can pull the trigger or not. So definitely at 58 years old, he can't do it any more, he gets tired after the first two rounds and just showing a glimpse of himself throughout the 8 rounds.

You can call it that way, we've been deceived while Jake and Mike going to the bank and cashing it out. And now there are reports that the fight could have been scripted. But regardless, we know that Mike Tyson is not going to win this fight.

It's easy to say that the fight was scripted but difficult for many people to believe without a proof. I could easily guess it's scripted because I felt that with Mike's records and practices he can win but at same time we know that Mike's age was really something not to compare with a young energetic man. They caused a lot of gamblers their money.

See so many videos about showing the fight of Paul and Tyson is scripted.

There's a youtuber showing some good points about this fight here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvpm3XtclXw

But any of this its expected and the fight is already over so still respect to the legend since despite of his age he show up again to bring good show to his fans. People surely understand the result that's why he still earn their respect even if he lose.

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