[Boxing profanation] Jake Paul Vs Mike Tyson - 15th November - page 3.

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Quote from: Baofeng on November 02, 2024, 09:59:23 PM

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Hopefully, Jake will not just put up his bicycle in this fight, hehehe, fans are going to pay huge money on them to see both engaging in a fanfare but there should be some action as they promised it during their pre-fight interviews so Jake should live by that hype.

He really needs to engage Mike in the beginning to really test Tyson if he has that power, or his age really caught up with him. Jake though is also known to have a gas problem as he usually gets tired in the middle rounds. And with that added muscle on him as he needs to go up to the heavyweight, maybe it could also have an effect on his body as the fight goes in the distance.

I doubt if Jake is afraid of Tyson. He's 27 years young. He's active, just had his previous fight 4 months ago. This bout is his own making. Tyson, on the other hand, is about to claim is senior citizen ID. So, Jake won't be running all throughout the fight. He won't be unnecessarily catching Mike's powerful shots, though. But if such occasion arises, I think Jake can absorb whatever is left with Mike's power.

I'm not expecting much from this fight, anyway. Jake's the director of this one. Despite his blabber, he respects Mike and is very much aware of his age. Mike, on the other hand, has to do the job creating hype. In the end, it might just be jabs and clinches.

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Quote from: pawel7777 on November 02, 2024, 06:34:34 PM

Quote from: TravelMug on November 01, 2024, 09:48:10 PM

Exactly, that could be his best chance to win in this fight, go all in the early rounds and really push Jake Paul to his limit and see if he can score a quick knockout victory. Because if the fight goes a little longer, Mike chance are getting slimmer and slimmer.

But if Jake Paul is wise and that his trainer knows or that they have thought that this is a possibility in advance, he might go and just cover himself up in the first couple of rounds and try to be lucky and evade that power from Mike Tyson. And then when he sees that Mike is getting tired after, then that is his chance to score points. I don't see Jake Paul scoring a knockout win though.

In few interviews Mike hinted that he predicts Jake to keep running away from him, avoiding exchanges and maybe scoring points with jabs and simple one-two combos. And I think that's likely to happen. Paul's goal will be to keep the distance and maybe become more aggressive when he sees Mike gassing out.
The question is, will Mike be able to corner Jake while preventing him from clinching and forcing him to brawl? I think it's possible but I probably wouldn't be putting any money on that.

Hopefully, Jake will not just put up his bicycle in this fight, hehehe, fans are going to pay huge money on them to see both engaging in a fanfare but there should be some action as they promised it during their pre-fight interviews so Jake should live by that hype.

He really needs to engage Mike in the beginning to really test Tyson if he has that power, or his age really caught up with him. Jake though is also known to have a gas problem as he usually gets tired in the middle rounds. And with that added muscle on him as he needs to go up to the heavyweight, maybe it could also have an effect on his body as the fight goes in the distance.

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Quote from: TravelMug on November 01, 2024, 09:48:10 PM

Exactly, that could be his best chance to win in this fight, go all in the early rounds and really push Jake Paul to his limit and see if he can score a quick knockout victory. Because if the fight goes a little longer, Mike chance are getting slimmer and slimmer.

But if Jake Paul is wise and that his trainer knows or that they have thought that this is a possibility in advance, he might go and just cover himself up in the first couple of rounds and try to be lucky and evade that power from Mike Tyson. And then when he sees that Mike is getting tired after, then that is his chance to score points. I don't see Jake Paul scoring a knockout win though.

In few interviews Mike hinted that he predicts Jake to keep running away from him, avoiding exchanges and maybe scoring points with jabs and simple one-two combos. And I think that's likely to happen. Paul's goal will be to keep the distance and maybe become more aggressive when he sees Mike gassing out.
The question is, will Mike be able to corner Jake while preventing him from clinching and forcing him to brawl? I think it's possible but I probably wouldn't be putting any money on that.

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Quote from: NotATether on October 31, 2024, 03:51:49 AM

That's crazy. I remember Mike Tyson saying that the match would have to be postponed before of some health problems he had developed like 6 months ago. Has he recovered from all of those yet?

There was even talk about the whole fight getting cancelled if he could not make it (there is understandably no back-up fighter for Jake Paul to fight).

Jake Paul probably wins this one. But my heart says Tyson.

Speaking of injury, I remember when Beterbiev got injured also weeks before their fight hence, they postponed it and eventually, he won despite of him getting the injury. I'm not saying that this is also the same with Tyson knowing that he's old, but there's a chance that the "health problem" is a way for him to prepare even longer. Of course, I might be wrong, but does he recover already from that "injury"? I think so because we've seen some of his videos online already and there's also a video where he even knocked down his sparring partner.

It's very different fight though, the fight could go either direction. There are fans that says at least the fight could end up in the draw. And I think for Beterbiev he really had that injury and so it take him sometime to recover. But for Tyson, maybe he was advise to take it easy or rest for a while, that's why the fight is postponed till November to give him more time to heal and recover.

The fight is getting closer though, and Jake Paul is still a big favorite and I do not that that there will be swing in Mike Tyson's favor. But for sure, there are fans here that is pro-Mike Tyson, and could be betting for him as the underdog.

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Quote from: NotATether on October 31, 2024, 03:51:49 AM

That's crazy. I remember Mike Tyson saying that the match would have to be postponed before of some health problems he had developed like 6 months ago. Has he recovered from all of those yet?

There was even talk about the whole fight getting cancelled if he could not make it (there is understandably no back-up fighter for Jake Paul to fight).

Jake Paul probably wins this one. But my heart says Tyson.

Speaking of injury, I remember when Beterbiev got injured also weeks before their fight hence, they postponed it and eventually, he won despite of him getting the injury. I'm not saying that this is also the same with Tyson knowing that he's old, but there's a chance that the "health problem" is a way for him to prepare even longer. Of course, I might be wrong, but does he recover already from that "injury"? I think so because we've seen some of his videos online already and there's also a video where he even knocked down his sparring partner.

Like you, I will go for Jake Paul on this one unless it's staged or rigged. I always believe that in whatever sport it is, age is always a factor and with this one, an around 20-year age gap is enough for me to say that Jake Paul has the advantage in everything... except in power maybe. Nevertheless, I will not risk my money betting on Tyson on this one. He might not even last for the full 12 rounds (if it's 12 rounds). Let's not bring back the Mike Tyson on his prime because he's not like that anymore and probably he's only doing this for the sake of money.

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Quote from: pawel7777 on October 31, 2024, 01:35:12 PM

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(...) But at 58 years old, I doubt that he can bring back that old version of himself. He might be good for at least a couple of rounds and then age will caught up on him and get tired and no gas tank as the fights goes along and that could be his downfall.

That's why I think he would have to go all in either in round 1 or round 2 and search for a KO if he seriously wants to win it.

Exactly, that could be his best chance to win in this fight, go all in the early rounds and really push Jake Paul to his limit and see if he can score a quick knockout victory. Because if the fight goes a little longer, Mike chance are getting slimmer and slimmer.

But if Jake Paul is wise and that his trainer knows or that they have thought that this is a possibility in advance, he might go and just cover himself up in the first couple of rounds and try to be lucky and evade that power from Mike Tyson. And then when he sees that Mike is getting tired after, then that is his chance to score points. I don't see Jake Paul scoring a knockout win though.

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Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on October 31, 2024, 02:55:32 PM

Tyson has looked impressive in all the training videos he has posted on social media. Neither fighter is enrolled in VADA and the state of Texas is not strict about drug testing. It makes me question if Tyson is taking some special supplements to enhance his performance. It will still be a difficult challenge for Tyson considering his age. I don’t expect him to win but I hope he can put up a good fight and expose Paul’s weaknesses. Jake Paul struggling against an old man would really bruise his ego and might negatively affect his marketability.

It's still an exhibition fight and I think both boxers realize that, and as for Tyson's fitness and physicality, he looks phenomenal for 58 years old. I saw a video where he trains Ngannou and you can see how fast Tyson is even now and how he calmly does physical exercises that a 58-year-old man without training can not do, and Tyson had problems with the law and was in jail, but still retained phenomenal speed.

The fact that this fight will be broadcasted by Netflix and the stadium for this fight holds 80 thousand spectators, tells us that many people still want to see Mike, because Mike is the best thing that happened to boxing for 30-40 years.

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Quote from: NotATether on October 31, 2024, 03:51:49 AM

That's crazy. I remember Mike Tyson saying that the match would have to be postponed before of some health problems he had developed like 6 months ago. Has he recovered from all of those yet?

There was even talk about the whole fight getting cancelled if he could not make it (there is understandably no back-up fighter for Jake Paul to fight).

Jake Paul probably wins this one. But my heart says Tyson.

My heart says Tyson as well because I can't comprehend a "boxer" like Jake Paul having a real chance to actually beat Tyson. I've also recently saw a lying detector test for Jake Paul and even him doesn't believe he can beat Tyson because as soon as you enter in that ring with him , you lost the fight.

Sure , this event involves a lot of money , involves an old Tyson who needs money and involves a young Jake Paul who guess what ...do have the money to make this fight happen but also have the money to pay Tyson and I'm sure he also has the money to "rig" this fight and make it more entertainment than a real boxing fight. At least this is how I currently see this situation.

Well, that will likely happen, especially because Jake pays them all, including Tyson. But if he can't KO Tyson, it will still be Jake by decision. I couldn't see Mike winning, but he can make it even just a decision or draw.

It must be profitable for Netflix to make this fight live on them that they really intend to make this happen after several delays. Netflix opening a door for this kind of event will probably make this a regular event.

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Quote from: NotATether on October 31, 2024, 03:51:49 AM

That's crazy. I remember Mike Tyson saying that the match would have to be postponed before of some health problems he had developed like 6 months ago. Has he recovered from all of those yet?

There was even talk about the whole fight getting cancelled if he could not make it (there is understandably no back-up fighter for Jake Paul to fight).

Jake Paul probably wins this one. But my heart says Tyson.

My heart says Tyson as well because I can't comprehend a "boxer" like Jake Paul having a real chance to actually beat Tyson. I've also recently saw a lying detector test for Jake Paul and even him doesn't believe he can beat Tyson because as soon as you enter in that ring with him , you lost the fight.

Sure , this event involves a lot of money , involves an old Tyson who needs money and involves a young Jake Paul who guess what ...do have the money to make this fight happen but also have the money to pay Tyson and I'm sure he also has the money to "rig" this fight and make it more entertainment than a real boxing fight. At least this is how I currently see this situation.

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Quote from: Ararbermas on October 31, 2024, 09:49:33 PM

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Mike Tyson is almost 3:1 underdog, so obviously, we will make a lot of money if he will win, via KO or Decision. But it's the question that at his age, will Mike still has that power, or if he has, can he land it against a younger opponent in Jake Paul? So really hard to bet on Mike hear as we have pointed out, he had retired for a long time and so he is already a grand father vs a young and prime boxer although not a professional in a sense, but still all advantage points to Jake Paul here.

who knows, coz mike still have strength and i can hear it on his every punch during his training for this fight especially the speed, it's really amazing to be honest wherein he seems like not an old man when moving and punching .

Training is different though, body bags doesn't throw back and we have seen a lot of good fighters in training moving like they are going to win. But when the bell rings, it's totally different for them.

Quote from: Ararbermas on October 31, 2024, 09:49:33 PM

so i believe if he take it seriously for sure jake paul will end up KO. Lastly ,i don't believe that his skills fades already because its built in and what will be the problem on mike here is the stamina since his opponent is very young.

Btw good odds and i will set my calendar for this and i hope it will not change soon.

Tyson will make this fight and take it seriously, and will go in the first couple of rounds and see if Jake Paul has a good chin. But for sure Jake Paul knows this so he might run early and then we see that Tyson is tired in the middle of the rounds, then he might go and try to score more points. And yes, stamina is going to be a big key in this fight. For Tyson, he shouldn't out punch himself.

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Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on October 31, 2024, 02:55:32 PM

Tyson has looked impressive in all the training videos he has posted on social media. Neither fighter is enrolled in VADA and the state of Texas is not strict about drug testing. It makes me question if Tyson is taking some special supplements to enhance his performance. It will still be a difficult challenge for Tyson considering his age. I don’t expect him to win but I hope he can put up a good fight and expose Paul’s weaknesses. Jake Paul struggling against an old man would really bruise his ego and might negatively affect his marketability.

And that is the thing with Mike Tyson or the promoter of the fight itself, they wanted to show the fans that Mike can still pull the trigger, but nevertheless, I see him just have enough for 2-3 rounds and then he will get tired.

I don't know what kind of drugs Tyson should have to take though in order to win this fight. As for Jake, I don't know, but if you look at his body and in this fight, he had to gain a lot of pounds and muscles to be considered as a Heavyweight, so most likely he might be taking some.

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on October 31, 2024, 06:05:08 AM

Mike Tyson is almost 3:1 underdog, so obviously, we will make a lot of money if he will win, via KO or Decision. But it's the question that at his age, will Mike still has that power, or if he has, can he land it against a younger opponent in Jake Paul? So really hard to bet on Mike hear as we have pointed out, he had retired for a long time and so he is already a grand father vs a young and prime boxer although not a professional in a sense, but still all advantage points to Jake Paul here.

who knows, coz mike still have strength and i can hear it on his every punch during his training for this fight especially the speed, it's really amazing to be honest wherein he seems like not an old man when moving and punching .
so i believe if he take it seriously for sure jake paul will end up KO. Lastly ,i don't believe that his skills fades already because its built in and what will be the problem on mike here is the stamina since his opponent is very young.

Btw good odds and i will set my calendar for this and i hope it will not change soon.

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It no secret that some people consider this fight blasphemy against boxing, but it an exhibition and some people also consider it entertainment and nostalgia for Mike Tyson in the boxing ring, I quite happy with Mike Tyson willingness to fight again even though he has lower chance of winning against Paul.
Paul is far more favored but as Mike Tyson fan betting little money on him to win and supporting him is matter of pride because after all this fighting has happened there no guarantee we get to see it again for second time.

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Tyson has looked impressive in all the training videos he has posted on social media. Neither fighter is enrolled in VADA and the state of Texas is not strict about drug testing. It makes me question if Tyson is taking some special supplements to enhance his performance. It will still be a difficult challenge for Tyson considering his age. I don’t expect him to win but I hope he can put up a good fight and expose Paul’s weaknesses. Jake Paul struggling against an old man would really bruise his ego and might negatively affect his marketability.

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I have been seeing the Netflix "documentary" previews every single time that I log in to netflix. Someone the other day was arguing with me trying to act like Mike Tyson had no chance of winning due to his age, which I find hilarious as Tyson might be older but he can still beat the shit out of the majority of people regardless of age. He's Iron Mike Tyson, you don't just completely lose those "powers", so to speak. Can't wait.

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Quote from: yahoo62278 on October 30, 2024, 06:16:38 PM

There is already a thread on this fight, if I weren't mobile I'd find it. Regardless, I will refrain from betting as I am not 100% sure the fight isn't just a staged fight. Jake Paul picks big names and makes a ton of money from the fights as does the other fighter he is fighting with at the time. If I was sure it wasn't a rigged fight, I would put some money on Tyson as his KO power is incredible.

That's always a risk with those fights, especially given past rumours about some strange secret clauses in Paul's opponents' contracts etc. In all fairness, I don't think the risk of the fight being straight-rigged, meaning Mike would agree to take a dive etc. I would imagine that would be illegal and at this level they wouldn't be able to keep things like that secret. Especially considering Paul has lost one of such fights (to Tommy Fury).
I think the biggest risk factor is Jake Paul using performance-enhancement drugs. I don't believe he would get tested for such (I could be wrong though). Otherwise I don't think Paul's team would have to resort to paying Mike to lose. Paul is a big favourite anyway and lets not pretend Tyson is resistant to aging. He's not the same boxer that he used to be. And if either of them loses, it won't be the end of the world for them.

Quote from: TravelMug on October 31, 2024, 05:55:08 AM

(...) But at 58 years old, I doubt that he can bring back that old version of himself. He might be good for at least a couple of rounds and then age will caught up on him and get tired and no gas tank as the fights goes along and that could be his downfall.

That's why I think he would have to go all in either in round 1 or round 2 and search for a KO if he seriously wants to win it.

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Quote from: btc_angela on October 31, 2024, 08:30:33 AM

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Quote from: NotATether on October 31, 2024, 03:51:49 AM

That's crazy. I remember Mike Tyson saying that the match would have to be postponed before of some health problems he had developed like 6 months ago. Has he recovered from all of those yet?

There was even talk about the whole fight getting cancelled if he could not make it (there is understandably no back-up fighter for Jake Paul to fight).

Jake Paul probably wins this one. But my heart says Tyson.

yeah, the match was postponed because of his health condition, he does look like he has recovered from it. from what I know he has sciatica and peptic ulcer, both of which are recurring so it is possible that he will suffer from it again in the future, both health conditions are nasty and painful when it occurs. I just hope this fight doesn't cause a flare-up on his conditions.

It's the ulcer that really cause the postponement last July. Unfortunately, Netflix has already put a lot of money in the promotion so they can't simply postponed or cancelled this fight. And it was reported that Tyson has been paid $20 million already.

Hopefully Tyson will be 100% in the fight so that there will be no excuses.

Although we should expect that Jake Paul is going to win here as Tyson is old and we might say that he shouldn't box at all.

$20M is a lot to refuse for Mike; after all, this is just an exhibition fight, and even if he loses, it's fine. He just has to keep the doctor in his corner all the time and call the fight off if he feels something.

It's expected already that Mike will lose as well. The old man is 58, who does that at such an age but Mike. It got demand because he is the hero of legendary boxers and people want to see him fight still.

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Quote from: acroman08 on October 31, 2024, 05:36:52 AM

Quote from: NotATether on October 31, 2024, 03:51:49 AM

That's crazy. I remember Mike Tyson saying that the match would have to be postponed before of some health problems he had developed like 6 months ago. Has he recovered from all of those yet?

There was even talk about the whole fight getting cancelled if he could not make it (there is understandably no back-up fighter for Jake Paul to fight).

Jake Paul probably wins this one. But my heart says Tyson.

yeah, the match was postponed because of his health condition, he does look like he has recovered from it. from what I know he has sciatica and peptic ulcer, both of which are recurring so it is possible that he will suffer from it again in the future, both health conditions are nasty and painful when it occurs. I just hope this fight doesn't cause a flare-up on his conditions.

It's the ulcer that really cause the postponement last July. Unfortunately, Netflix has already put a lot of money in the promotion so they can't simply postponed or cancelled this fight. And it was reported that Tyson has been paid $20 million already.

Hopefully Tyson will be 100% in the fight so that there will be no excuses.

Although we should expect that Jake Paul is going to win here as Tyson is old and we might say that he shouldn't box at all.

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Mike Tyson is almost 3:1 underdog, so obviously, we will make a lot of money if he will win, via KO or Decision. But it's the question that at his age, will Mike still has that power, or if he has, can he land it against a younger opponent in Jake Paul? So really hard to bet on Mike hear as we have pointed out, he had retired for a long time and so he is already a grand father vs a young and prime boxer although not a professional in a sense, but still all advantage points to Jake Paul here.

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Quote from: NotATether on October 31, 2024, 03:51:49 AM

That's crazy. I remember Mike Tyson saying that the match would have to be postponed before of some health problems he had developed like 6 months ago. Has he recovered from all of those yet?

Yes, he had like ulcer or something.

Quote from: NotATether on October 31, 2024, 03:51:49 AM

There was even talk about the whole fight getting cancelled if he could not make it (there is understandably no back-up fighter for Jake Paul to fight).

Jake Paul did continue to fight on the supposedly scheduled date on June 24 and defeated Mike Perry.

Quote from: NotATether on October 31, 2024, 03:51:49 AM

Jake Paul probably wins this one. But my heart says Tyson.

He is a huge favorite, so yes, most likely he will win this fight. But for sentimental feelings, others like you might want Tyson to win. For those generation who have seen Mike Tyson fight in his prime, he is really that scary. But at 58 years old, I doubt that he can bring back that old version of himself. He might be good for at least a couple of rounds and then age will caught up on him and get tired and no gas tank as the fights goes along and that could be his downfall.

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