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Topic: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8 (Read 773 times)

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I'm locking this thread, in summary,

- Stevenson won by technical knockout in round six rounds, as the referee stop the fight as Yoshino is not throwing enough puncher
- With this, Shakur has officially arrived at 135 lbs, taking that 0 from Yoshino
- This is a title eliminator, so Shakur will face the winner of Loma vs Haney at least for the WBC belt next

Congrats to those who win their bet on Shakur winning by knockout/technical knockout and rounds under 7.5.

And thanks to those who posted and keep this thread with their predictions.
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Another one-sided dominant performance by Shakur Stevenson. They are already trying to build up Shakur vs. Haney. If Haney beats Lomachenko, they will be expected to fight each other and I think the winner should then be considered the best pound for pound fighter in the world. As good as Crawford and Spence are, they have waited too long to make that fight and I think these younger guys are surpassing them by trying to get the best fights made instead of hiding behind promoters.
It's really crazy for Shakur to fight with the best of the best lightweight boxer, a huge challenge for him. Well I'm not really sure if the winner will be considered the best pound for pound boxer in the world because both Usyk and Inoue haven't lose yet. I think Inoue will become the best pound for pound boxer in the world if he able to beat Stephen in Fulton in his upcoming fight.

As we can see Shakur doesn't have a lot power, but with his stamina and speed he can win via TKO in this fight.

This fight was made in order for Shakur to look good and they were successful as he dominated and toyed the Japanese Yoshino but still Top Rank will be having trouble finding Shakur an opponent that could earn him the respect of the boxing community, don't get me wrong but with Shakur fighting a nobody in the lightweight division is so boring to watch but I hope that it will change in his next few fights.

Congrats to those who bet for Shakur to win via TKO, that would be 3.xx if I'm not mistaken.

Everyone is getting that Floyd treatment, boring and playing defensive games, not just for Shakur but even Haney has had this treatment already. The hype fight is Davis vs Garcia, with no belts on the line but it's talk more than the fight between Loma and Haney which is the true championship fight.

Unless the next one will be Shakur and Devin, they are also close because they are former Olympian if I'm not mistaken and has cross paths for sure in the past. However, even if this two fights, then it will be the same, two boxers that doesn't have the hype, but they are great and more of a sweet science fighter like Floyd who loves to play defense and read their opponents.
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This fight was made in order for Shakur to look good and they were successful as he dominated and toyed the Japanese Yoshino but still Top Rank will be having trouble finding Shakur an opponent that could earn him the respect of the boxing community, don't get me wrong but with Shakur fighting a nobody in the lightweight division is so boring to watch but I hope that it will change in his next few fights.

This is a bad fight and a bad preparation if he is going to fight whoever wins between Loma and Haney,
the match is very one-sided I thought I was watching a match between a professional and an amateur, Yoshino I believe is an unbeaten fighter but he is nowhere on the level of Shakur, this is the kind of fight that the boxing community will not watch even buy a ticket his promoters should give him a real challenge this is as easy as a walk in a park.

Yes, that was the first defeat in Shuichiro Yoshino's career and I bet he already knew that he will have his first defeat in-front of Shakur because he has been chosen to fight for Shakur's tune-up but I agree, this is really a bad preparation if Bob Arum is indeed letting him face the winner of Loma-Haney fight. Although, I somehow sense that Shakur is already ready for a fight like that.

I don't think this is a bad preparation for Shakur, he has been on top level boxing for years, because a champion as well at the young age. So it's just enough for him to have this opportunity to fight the winner between Loma and Haney.

On the other hand, it is Haney who is in the dilemma here, there are reports that he might go to 140 lbs if he beat Loma in this fight.

This is just pure speculation, and it doesn't mean that the is avoiding Shakur, but maybe his body can't really make 135 lbs or having a hard time so it make sense that this will be his last fight at 135 lbs to defend all his belts.
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I believe that for most people the result of that fight was too obvious, Yoshino didn't represent a great danger to Shakur and during the fight it was possible to notice that, Shakur's punches were too heavy for Yoshino to handle, and Shakur he had very fast punches and when Yoshino tried to counter - attack he was very vulnerable and Shakur with his speed did not let these opportunities escape and attacked Yoshino with his heavy punches and Yoshino could not bear to receive these punches, so Yoshino every minute that passed was more weakened, slower and his punches gave the impression of being less heavy

I particularly yesterday, even before the fight, I thought that Shakur would win this fight without much difficulty, but I didn't remember in time to place a bet, I was watching a soccer game and I completely forgot to place a bet on this fight, I don't know what the odds were yesterday or if there was a good market on stake.com, but it would be a good game to have added to my parlay, but finally, people who have the opportunity to watch these fights live and who have many reasons to be very happy, especially if they hit the bet.

That was indeed a one-sided fight and we already knew that for a fact even before the fight commenced, and when these two are dancing inside the ring, their power difference becomes more obvious because Yoshino just can't catch-up with Shakur's power punches and he was also having difficulties in countering Shakur's attacks, so difficult that he was already ate a punch before he can really defend himself.

About the bet, I managed to bet on Shakur via way of TKO/KO a week ahead from the date of their fight. I believed that he could finish the fight in that same way even though he's not much of a KO boxer because this is just a cherry-picked fight aiming to highlight Shakur's climb.
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This fight was made in order for Shakur to look good and they were successful as he dominated and toyed the Japanese Yoshino but still Top Rank will be having trouble finding Shakur an opponent that could earn him the respect of the boxing community, don't get me wrong but with Shakur fighting a nobody in the lightweight division is so boring to watch but I hope that it will change in his next few fights.

This is a bad fight and a bad preparation if he is going to fight whoever wins between Loma and Haney,
the match is very one-sided I thought I was watching a match between a professional and an amateur, Yoshino I believe is an unbeaten fighter but he is nowhere on the level of Shakur, this is the kind of fight that the boxing community will not watch even buy a ticket his promoters should give him a real challenge this is as easy as a walk in a park.

Yes, that was the first defeat in Shuichiro Yoshino's career and I bet he already knew that he will have his first defeat in-front of Shakur because he has been chosen to fight for Shakur's tune-up but I agree, this is really a bad preparation if Bob Arum is indeed letting him face the winner of Loma-Haney fight. Although, I somehow sense that Shakur is already ready for a fight like that.
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I believe that for most people the result of that fight was too obvious, Yoshino didn't represent a great danger to Shakur and during the fight it was possible to notice that, Shakur's punches were too heavy for Yoshino to handle, and Shakur he had very fast punches and when Yoshino tried to counter - attack he was very vulnerable and Shakur with his speed did not let these opportunities escape and attacked Yoshino with his heavy punches and Yoshino could not bear to receive these punches, so Yoshino every minute that passed was more weakened, slower and his punches gave the impression of being less heavy

I particularly yesterday, even before the fight, I thought that Shakur would win this fight without much difficulty, but I didn't remember in time to place a bet, I was watching a soccer game and I completely forgot to place a bet on this fight, I don't know what the odds were yesterday or if there was a good market on stake.com, but it would be a good game to have added to my parlay, but finally, people who have the opportunity to watch these fights live and who have many reasons to be very happy, especially if they hit the bet
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This fight was made in order for Shakur to look good and they were successful as he dominated and toyed the Japanese Yoshino but still Top Rank will be having trouble finding Shakur an opponent that could earn him the respect of the boxing community, don't get me wrong but with Shakur fighting a nobody in the lightweight division is so boring to watch but I hope that it will change in his next few fights.

This is a bad fight and a bad preparation if he is going to fight whoever wins between Loma and Haney,
the match is very one-sided I thought I was watching a match between a professional and an amateur, Yoshino I believe is an unbeaten fighter but he is nowhere on the level of Shakur, this is the kind of fight that the boxing community will not watch even buy a ticket his promoters should give him a real challenge this is as easy as a walk in a park.
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Another one-sided dominant performance by Shakur Stevenson. They are already trying to build up Shakur vs. Haney. If Haney beats Lomachenko, they will be expected to fight each other and I think the winner should then be considered the best pound for pound fighter in the world. As good as Crawford and Spence are, they have waited too long to make that fight and I think these younger guys are surpassing them by trying to get the best fights made instead of hiding behind promoters.
It's really crazy for Shakur to fight with the best of the best lightweight boxer, a huge challenge for him. Well I'm not really sure if the winner will be considered the best pound for pound boxer in the world because both Usyk and Inoue haven't lose yet. I think Inoue will become the best pound for pound boxer in the world if he able to beat Stephen in Fulton in his upcoming fight.

As we can see Shakur doesn't have a lot power, but with his stamina and speed he can win via TKO in this fight.

This fight was made in order for Shakur to look good and they were successful as he dominated and toyed the Japanese Yoshino but still Top Rank will be having trouble finding Shakur an opponent that could earn him the respect of the boxing community, don't get me wrong but with Shakur fighting a nobody in the lightweight division is so boring to watch but I hope that it will change in his next few fights.

Congrats to those who bet for Shakur to win via TKO, that would be 3.xx if I'm not mistaken.
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This fight didn't get so much attention from gamblers because of Adesanya vs Pereira 2 fight. And it's obviously a mismatch fight knowing that Shakur is a more skilled boxer than Yoshino. The bookmakers knew it from the start.

I don't think Shakur has no power. He probably just toying Yoshino.
The referee didn't wait for the 3rd knockdown before stopping this fight.  Yoshino may have contested for a bit but I think he is grateful for the notion or he would end in the most embarrassing KO.

I agree with the referee stopping the fight it's a clear mismatch, I know Shakur has an edge but I never imagined that the fight is a big mismatch, Shakur has been hitting Shuichiro at will and Shuichiro's punches has no impact on Shakur.
Shuichiro is not on Shakur's level, because of the impressive wins he deserves to have a crack at the Haney- Loma winner, but I still have doubt that he can match Haney and Loma's technical skill and speed,  both fighters still have the edge on skill and speed over Shakur.
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Another one-sided dominant performance by Shakur Stevenson. They are already trying to build up Shakur vs. Haney. If Haney beats Lomachenko, they will be expected to fight each other and I think the winner should then be considered the best pound for pound fighter in the world. As good as Crawford and Spence are, they have waited too long to make that fight and I think these younger guys are surpassing them by trying to get the best fights made instead of hiding behind promoters.
It's really crazy for Shakur to fight with the best of the best lightweight boxer, a huge challenge for him. Well I'm not really sure if the winner will be considered the best pound for pound boxer in the world because both Usyk and Inoue haven't lose yet. I think Inoue will become the best pound for pound boxer in the world if he able to beat Stephen in Fulton in his upcoming fight.

As we can see Shakur doesn't have a lot power, but with his stamina and speed he can win via TKO in this fight.

This fight didn't get so much attention from gamblers because of Adesanya vs Pereira 2 fight. And it's obviously a mismatch fight knowing that Shakur is a more skilled boxer than Yoshino. The bookmakers knew it from the start.

I don't think Shakur has no power. He probably just toying Yoshino.
The referee didn't wait for the 3rd knockdown before stopping this fight.  Yoshino may have contested for a bit but I think he is grateful for the notion or he would end in the most embarrassing KO.
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Another one-sided dominant performance by Shakur Stevenson. They are already trying to build up Shakur vs. Haney. If Haney beats Lomachenko, they will be expected to fight each other and I think the winner should then be considered the best pound for pound fighter in the world. As good as Crawford and Spence are, they have waited too long to make that fight and I think these younger guys are surpassing them by trying to get the best fights made instead of hiding behind promoters.
It's really crazy for Shakur to fight with the best of the best lightweight boxer, a huge challenge for him. Well I'm not really sure if the winner will be considered the best pound for pound boxer in the world because both Usyk and Inoue haven't lose yet. I think Inoue will become the best pound for pound boxer in the world if he able to beat Stephen in Fulton in his upcoming fight.

As we can see Shakur doesn't have a lot power, but with his stamina and speed he can win via TKO in this fight.
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Another one-sided dominant performance by Shakur Stevenson. They are already trying to build up Shakur vs. Haney. If Haney beats Lomachenko, they will be expected to fight each other and I think the winner should then be considered the best pound for pound fighter in the world. As good as Crawford and Spence are, they have waited too long to make that fight and I think these younger guys are surpassing them by trying to get the best fights made instead of hiding behind promoters.

And with this win, can we give credit to Shakur with this dominant performance of him? For me, he is not tested in this fight and from the beginning, it's just a matter on how he is going to win here, but knockout which round.

It's just very unfortunate that Isaac Cruz turn down this fight as a mandatory fight. It could have been a better fight than the 4th rank Japanese. Cruz is rank 2nd though. But in any case, Shakur has one step inside already, if it Haney that will win, then still a good fight as both are still very young
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Another one-sided dominant performance by Shakur Stevenson. They are already trying to build up Shakur vs. Haney. If Haney beats Lomachenko, they will be expected to fight each other and I think the winner should then be considered the best pound for pound fighter in the world. As good as Crawford and Spence are, they have waited too long to make that fight and I think these younger guys are surpassing them by trying to get the best fights made instead of hiding behind promoters.

Yes, 6 rounds of boxing dominated by Shakur and as everyone is expecting, and he drops him 2x, obviously, as we have said, this is a cherry pick and most likely just a tune up fight for him at 135 lbs.

I guess the fights are being made because they are all the umbrella of Top Rank boxing.

So Bob Arum is going to push for it no matter what as it will be a win win situation for him. As compare to Spence and Crawford, very hard to negotiation but there are rumors that they are going to face each other already.
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Another one-sided dominant performance by Shakur Stevenson. They are already trying to build up Shakur vs. Haney. If Haney beats Lomachenko, they will be expected to fight each other and I think the winner should then be considered the best pound for pound fighter in the world. As good as Crawford and Spence are, they have waited too long to make that fight and I think these younger guys are surpassing them by trying to get the best fights made instead of hiding behind promoters.
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^ It seems that Stevenson didn't go anything hard to make the cut in this division as he was below the limit. And as everyone is expecting how this fight will be, it could be one sided beating for the the Japanese.

He seems to be smiling though, not sure how to read this, could be he is confident that he can shock the world with a win here, or doesn't know the magnitude of this fight and will just go on with the motions against Shakur.

Can't say that I oppose him if he's indeed confident on this fight because this fight against Yoshino is the least of their camps worry and now both of them have passed the weigh-in, there's no hurdle on the road right now that will prevent Shakur from winning this fight. It's a one-sided fight no matter how we look into it because this is just a tune-up fight, Bob Arum will do everything just to make another cash cow that will have a huge fight in the future because this is a title eliminator fight.

And since this is a title eliminator fight, then Shakur will have to win here.

And Shakur said that Yoshino is just basic to him, Lol, that's confident, but we all know the talent he got so we will give him the pass for telling it that way as if saying that the Japanese will not put anything on him on this fight. And the more Yoshino tried, the more Shakur will step up and maybe look for that knockout to make big statement. And then look for whoever has the belt later for his title shot.
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^ It seems that Stevenson didn't go anything hard to make the cut in this division as he was below the limit. And as everyone is expecting how this fight will be, it could be one sided beating for the the Japanese.

He seems to be smiling though, not sure how to read this, could be he is confident that he can shock the world with a win here, or doesn't know the magnitude of this fight and will just go on with the motions against Shakur.

Can't say that I oppose him if he's indeed confident on this fight because this fight against Yoshino is the least of their camps worry and now both of them have passed the weigh-in, there's no hurdle on the road right now that will prevent Shakur from winning this fight. It's a one-sided fight no matter how we look into it because this is just a tune-up fight, Bob Arum will do everything just to make another cash cow that will have a huge fight in the future because this is a title eliminator fight.
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^ It seems that Stevenson didn't go anything hard to make the cut in this division as he was below the limit. And as everyone is expecting how this fight will be, it could be one sided beating for the the Japanese.

He seems to be smiling though, not sure how to read this, could be he is confident that he can shock the world with a win here, or doesn't know the magnitude of this fight and will just go on with the motions against Shakur.

Shakur will totally dominate this fight I'm sure of this, the only thing that will interest me in this fight is Shakur's style if he shows improvement in his skill and power because right now I have doubt if he can match the skill, movement, and power of both Haney and Loma, he must send messages to both fighters that he is a legit contender to whoever wins their match.

I was waiting for this fight, but I must have lost the schedule as the fight is happening tomorrow my timezone. Yeah, he could dominate this fight, but again, this is the first time he is going up in weight. Shakur is not known to have power though, and most of his knockout is due to the body punch.

So it will be very good to see how he is in this new division. And maybe this is the reason why a tune up fight for him, because they don't know how he will be in 135 lbs so choosing a less known opponent is good for them. This fight is a eliminator I'm surprised though because it means that he will be given the chance to fight for the belt in his next fight, assuming he will win.
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^ It seems that Stevenson didn't go anything hard to make the cut in this division as he was below the limit. And as everyone is expecting how this fight will be, it could be one sided beating for the the Japanese.

He seems to be smiling though, not sure how to read this, could be he is confident that he can shock the world with a win here, or doesn't know the magnitude of this fight and will just go on with the motions against Shakur.

Shakur will totally dominate this fight I'm sure of this, the only thing that will interest me in this fight is Shakur's style if he shows improvement in his skill and power because right now I have doubt if he can match the skill, movement, and power of both Haney and Loma, he must send messages to both fighters that he is a legit contender to whoever wins their match.
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^ It seems that Stevenson didn't go anything hard to make the cut in this division as he was below the limit. And as everyone is expecting how this fight will be, it could be one sided beating for the the Japanese.

He seems to be smiling though, not sure how to read this, could be he is confident that he can shock the world with a win here, or doesn't know the magnitude of this fight and will just go on with the motions against Shakur.
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Ok here is the official weigh in for the fight,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRQDiRXBLYw

Both fighters are within the limit, Yoshino clock in at 135 lbs even with Stevenson at 134.4 lbs. The announcer said that this is the WBC lightweight eliminator fight so who wins here will have a crack of the belt (either Haney or Loma depending on the result of their fight).

And I would say that there is also another must watch fight here in Keyshawn Davis vs Anthony Yigit. Keyshawn is a Olympian and coming up in ranks so I expect that this is going to be good fight between the two. They have been trash talking and you can even see in the final weigh in that they have to be separated. Both Shakur and Keyshawn are very close though, but perhaps in the future this two are going to clash as they are in the same weight class now as Shakur move to 135 lbs.
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