[Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8 - page 3.

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Quote from: carlisle1 on March 24, 2023, 03:21:24 AM

Upset still possible but I can be more biased here since byt stats and by capabilities Shakur do have a huge advantage.

Not unless if Yoshino will get that lucky opening and throw a KO punch that will bring Shakur in the floor.

The chances of Stevenson getting knocked out are very low because we know how careful of a boxer he is. According to his stats, he is not a KO artist and yet remains undefeated. This means that he does not take unnecessary risks by going toe to toe and instead relies on his advantage, which is his quickness. Therefore, it is possible for him to get KOed, but the chances are close to none.

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Most boxers started that way though, and I think this was separates the elite from B-fighters. Because elite fighters again will slowly goes up and then win belts make a name for themselves and then their name will become big like what happen to Shakur Stevenson.

Maybe careful match making by this promotional company, but everything lies on how he project himself inside the right and how he fights.

And for sure if he win this one, and since Top Rank has Devin Haney and Loma, he might be next in line to fight either one of them.

Yeah, he will have that chance if he continues winning his fight, with how this sport works I mean with how promotions
and handlers are making money with each fighter.

The more the fans continue to support and follow each fight that being offered the more we will expect that big fights will be offer.

Let see what will happen to this fight and start discussing Shakur's next journey.

In terms of speculations, we cannot deny that Shakur Stevenson's chance to win is huge enough than losing this fight because Yoshino despite of his decent records, he's not that reliable to face heavy names in boxing as he's not that experienced to be in the international ring.

And as for me, there are only two types of boxers in the world:
1. Boxers who are bound to be a champion
2. Boxers who are bound to be a steppingstone

Which I think, not to underestimate, Yoshino is the 2nd type of boxer where he will pave way for Shakur's name to be great soon. Other than that, this fight will showcase Shakur's debut and respectfully, Bob Arum surely arranged a safer fight for his cow.

I agree with that. Bob Arum know how to pick for his cows wisely and he gave Shakur a competitive opponent on his debut while making sure that his opponent's chances is just slim, I mean we can somehow differentiate the two of them by looking at their records and somehow, we can say that they're both on a different league. We should indeed not forgot that this is a highlight of Shakur and not his opponent, it will be a good warm up for sure for Shakur but that's it.

Arum care more about the money and the hype for his fighter, even this fight seems to be a cherry pick for him and more
on the side of money-making match.

Upset still possible but I can be more biased here since byt stats and by capabilities Shakur do have a huge advantage.

Not unless if Yoshino will get that lucky opening and throw a KO punch that will bring Shakur in the floor.

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Most boxers started that way though, and I think this was separates the elite from B-fighters. Because elite fighters again will slowly goes up and then win belts make a name for themselves and then their name will become big like what happen to Shakur Stevenson.

Maybe careful match making by this promotional company, but everything lies on how he project himself inside the right and how he fights.

And for sure if he win this one, and since Top Rank has Devin Haney and Loma, he might be next in line to fight either one of them.

Yeah, he will have that chance if he continues winning his fight, with how this sport works I mean with how promotions
and handlers are making money with each fighter.

The more the fans continue to support and follow each fight that being offered the more we will expect that big fights will be offer.

Let see what will happen to this fight and start discussing Shakur's next journey.

In terms of speculations, we cannot deny that Shakur Stevenson's chance to win is huge enough than losing this fight because Yoshino despite of his decent records, he's not that reliable to face heavy names in boxing as he's not that experienced to be in the international ring.

And as for me, there are only two types of boxers in the world:
1. Boxers who are bound to be a champion
2. Boxers who are bound to be a steppingstone

Which I think, not to underestimate, Yoshino is the 2nd type of boxer where he will pave way for Shakur's name to be great soon. Other than that, this fight will showcase Shakur's debut and respectfully, Bob Arum surely arranged a safer fight for his cow.

I agree with that. Bob Arum know how to pick for his cows wisely and he gave Shakur a competitive opponent on his debut while making sure that his opponent's chances is just slim, I mean we can somehow differentiate the two of them by looking at their records and somehow, we can say that they're both on a different league. We should indeed not forgot that this is a highlight of Shakur and not his opponent, it will be a good warm up for sure for Shakur but that's it.

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Most boxers started that way though, and I think this was separates the elite from B-fighters. Because elite fighters again will slowly goes up and then win belts make a name for themselves and then their name will become big like what happen to Shakur Stevenson.

Maybe careful match making by this promotional company, but everything lies on how he project himself inside the right and how he fights.

And for sure if he win this one, and since Top Rank has Devin Haney and Loma, he might be next in line to fight either one of them.

Yeah, he will have that chance if he continues winning his fight, with how this sport works I mean with how promotions
and handlers are making money with each fighter.

The more the fans continue to support and follow each fight that being offered the more we will expect that big fights will be offer.

Let see what will happen to this fight and start discussing Shakur's next journey.

In terms of speculations, we cannot deny that Shakur Stevenson's chance to win is huge enough than losing this fight because Yoshino despite of his decent records, he's not that reliable to face heavy names in boxing as he's not that experienced to be in the international ring.

And as for me, there are only two types of boxers in the world:
1. Boxers who are bound to be a champion
2. Boxers who are bound to be a steppingstone

Which I think, not to underestimate, Yoshino is the 2nd type of boxer where he will pave way for Shakur's name to be great soon. Other than that, this fight will showcase Shakur's debut and respectfully, Bob Arum surely arranged a safer fight for his cow.

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Quote from: btc_angela on March 21, 2023, 01:15:51 PM

Most boxers started that way though, and I think this was separates the elite from B-fighters. Because elite fighters again will slowly goes up and then win belts make a name for themselves and then their name will become big like what happen to Shakur Stevenson.

Maybe careful match making by this promotional company, but everything lies on how he project himself inside the right and how he fights.

And for sure if he win this one, and since Top Rank has Devin Haney and Loma, he might be next in line to fight either one of them.

Yeah, he will have that chance if he continues winning his fight, with how this sport works I mean with how promotions
and handlers are making money with each fighter.

The more the fans continue to support and follow each fight that being offered the more we will expect that big fights will be offer.

Let see what will happen to this fight and start discussing Shakur's next journey.

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Maybe that's the only available dates that they can squeeze, but I think what's important is that Shakur will be able to fight in front of his hometown again justl like his last fight.

So regardless of the numbers, his fans is the sure winning here. And maybe the Japanese fighter too, he will get a good payday and then fight in the US for the first time. For Shakur just another fight, maybe it's a tune up for him in 135 lbs and then target big names later in this division. And there are a lot of them, so good for Shakur to have like a get busy fight at the start of this year.

Shakur is not a KO artist, so I would not be surprised if this fight does not earn a lot of money. Most boxers who have a lot of followers and supporters are those who can really entertain the crowd, so Shakur needs to fight a champion who is entertaining too in order to sell big numbers. Look at Ryan Garcia vs Tank Davis, both are KO artists, and they are already making lots of ticket sales.

A few days to go this fight will began and think this will be a good fight as well we all know that even though they are not just Master in KO or KO artist. But still for me that will bring us a good fight. But like you said mate that this fight will not earn a lot of money then I think you are right that. It because the popularity of a boxer matters and we all know that these fighters not a very known in the world so the crowd will be lesser than other popular fighter.

Yes, Shakur Stevenson may be a 2-belt champion in his previous division but he is not that fully known yet in this industry and in this new weight class that he's in, he will be start making his name because if he can manage to defeat Yoshino (which I know he can) and end the fight with a statement, there's a huge chance that his next fights will be against the champion. It might be an interim belt or even against the undisputed champion directly.

Yep, he is just going on ranks that time, he already has name though, nut not household enough for the casual fans to recognized his him. Until he beat Herring that time, who held the WBO World Super Feather and has been tearing the division (Shakur holds the interim title). But when they fought he just dominated Herring and get this title solidifying his status. And then fought Oscar Valdez for the WBC World Super Feather in which he knock down Valdez 2x, (which also that time is bigger than Shakur in terms of name). With that win against the highly touted Valdez, his name is now on the limelight. But the true test for him will be the 135 lbs as there are a lot of great name boxers here.

Slowly but surely that's what shakur doing right now and once he gonna win this fight then a lot of achievement will be achieve cause once he win the crowd will be know him and his name will publish around the world and for sure his next fight will be against the champions so his opportunity will come on his career which is we all know that in this fight he can win. Even though not in knock out but the percentage of winning for me is high.

Most boxers started that way though, and I think this was separates the elite from B-fighters. Because elite fighters again will slowly goes up and then win belts make a name for themselves and then their name will become big like what happen to Shakur Stevenson.

Maybe careful match making by this promotional company, but everything lies on how he project himself inside the right and how he fights.

And for sure if he win this one, and since Top Rank has Devin Haney and Loma, he might be next in line to fight either one of them.

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Maybe that's the only available dates that they can squeeze, but I think what's important is that Shakur will be able to fight in front of his hometown again justl like his last fight.

So regardless of the numbers, his fans is the sure winning here. And maybe the Japanese fighter too, he will get a good payday and then fight in the US for the first time. For Shakur just another fight, maybe it's a tune up for him in 135 lbs and then target big names later in this division. And there are a lot of them, so good for Shakur to have like a get busy fight at the start of this year.

Shakur is not a KO artist, so I would not be surprised if this fight does not earn a lot of money. Most boxers who have a lot of followers and supporters are those who can really entertain the crowd, so Shakur needs to fight a champion who is entertaining too in order to sell big numbers. Look at Ryan Garcia vs Tank Davis, both are KO artists, and they are already making lots of ticket sales.

A few days to go this fight will began and think this will be a good fight as well we all know that even though they are not just Master in KO or KO artist. But still for me that will bring us a good fight. But like you said mate that this fight will not earn a lot of money then I think you are right that. It because the popularity of a boxer matters and we all know that these fighters not a very known in the world so the crowd will be lesser than other popular fighter.

Yes, Shakur Stevenson may be a 2-belt champion in his previous division but he is not that fully known yet in this industry and in this new weight class that he's in, he will be start making his name because if he can manage to defeat Yoshino (which I know he can) and end the fight with a statement, there's a huge chance that his next fights will be against the champion. It might be an interim belt or even against the undisputed champion directly.

Yep, he is just going on ranks that time, he already has name though, nut not household enough for the casual fans to recognized his him. Until he beat Herring that time, who held the WBO World Super Feather and has been tearing the division (Shakur holds the interim title). But when they fought he just dominated Herring and get this title solidifying his status. And then fought Oscar Valdez for the WBC World Super Feather in which he knock down Valdez 2x, (which also that time is bigger than Shakur in terms of name). With that win against the highly touted Valdez, his name is now on the limelight. But the true test for him will be the 135 lbs as there are a lot of great name boxers here.

Slowly but surely that's what shakur doing right now and once he gonna win this fight then a lot of achievement will be achieve cause once he win the crowd will be know him and his name will publish around the world and for sure his next fight will be against the champions so his opportunity will come on his career which is we all know that in this fight he can win. Even though not in knock out but the percentage of winning for me is high.

It will be a challenging match for Shakur since he is just starting to build a strong foundation in the industry but he has to make sure that he won't miss this chance to take the spotlight and prove that he's a good fighter. Time will tell if he will establish a good name but he should do his part in proving that he's too willing and eager to win this match. He only needs to be well prepared because he will only grab this chance once.

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Maybe that's the only available dates that they can squeeze, but I think what's important is that Shakur will be able to fight in front of his hometown again justl like his last fight.

So regardless of the numbers, his fans is the sure winning here. And maybe the Japanese fighter too, he will get a good payday and then fight in the US for the first time. For Shakur just another fight, maybe it's a tune up for him in 135 lbs and then target big names later in this division. And there are a lot of them, so good for Shakur to have like a get busy fight at the start of this year.

Shakur is not a KO artist, so I would not be surprised if this fight does not earn a lot of money. Most boxers who have a lot of followers and supporters are those who can really entertain the crowd, so Shakur needs to fight a champion who is entertaining too in order to sell big numbers. Look at Ryan Garcia vs Tank Davis, both are KO artists, and they are already making lots of ticket sales.

A few days to go this fight will began and think this will be a good fight as well we all know that even though they are not just Master in KO or KO artist. But still for me that will bring us a good fight. But like you said mate that this fight will not earn a lot of money then I think you are right that. It because the popularity of a boxer matters and we all know that these fighters not a very known in the world so the crowd will be lesser than other popular fighter.

Yes, Shakur Stevenson may be a 2-belt champion in his previous division but he is not that fully known yet in this industry and in this new weight class that he's in, he will be start making his name because if he can manage to defeat Yoshino (which I know he can) and end the fight with a statement, there's a huge chance that his next fights will be against the champion. It might be an interim belt or even against the undisputed champion directly.

Yep, he is just going on ranks that time, he already has name though, nut not household enough for the casual fans to recognized his him. Until he beat Herring that time, who held the WBO World Super Feather and has been tearing the division (Shakur holds the interim title). But when they fought he just dominated Herring and get this title solidifying his status. And then fought Oscar Valdez for the WBC World Super Feather in which he knock down Valdez 2x, (which also that time is bigger than Shakur in terms of name). With that win against the highly touted Valdez, his name is now on the limelight. But the true test for him will be the 135 lbs as there are a lot of great name boxers here.

Slowly but surely that's what shakur doing right now and once he gonna win this fight then a lot of achievement will be achieve cause once he win the crowd will be know him and his name will publish around the world and for sure his next fight will be against the champions so his opportunity will come on his career which is we all know that in this fight he can win. Even though not in knock out but the percentage of winning for me is high.

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Maybe that's the only available dates that they can squeeze, but I think what's important is that Shakur will be able to fight in front of his hometown again justl like his last fight.

So regardless of the numbers, his fans is the sure winning here. And maybe the Japanese fighter too, he will get a good payday and then fight in the US for the first time. For Shakur just another fight, maybe it's a tune up for him in 135 lbs and then target big names later in this division. And there are a lot of them, so good for Shakur to have like a get busy fight at the start of this year.

Shakur is not a KO artist, so I would not be surprised if this fight does not earn a lot of money. Most boxers who have a lot of followers and supporters are those who can really entertain the crowd, so Shakur needs to fight a champion who is entertaining too in order to sell big numbers. Look at Ryan Garcia vs Tank Davis, both are KO artists, and they are already making lots of ticket sales.

A few days to go this fight will began and think this will be a good fight as well we all know that even though they are not just Master in KO or KO artist. But still for me that will bring us a good fight. But like you said mate that this fight will not earn a lot of money then I think you are right that. It because the popularity of a boxer matters and we all know that these fighters not a very known in the world so the crowd will be lesser than other popular fighter.

Yes, Shakur Stevenson may be a 2-belt champion in his previous division but he is not that fully known yet in this industry and in this new weight class that he's in, he will be start making his name because if he can manage to defeat Yoshino (which I know he can) and end the fight with a statement, there's a huge chance that his next fights will be against the champion. It might be an interim belt or even against the undisputed champion directly.

Yep, he is just going on ranks that time, he already has name though, nut not household enough for the casual fans to recognized his him. Until he beat Herring that time, who held the WBO World Super Feather and has been tearing the division (Shakur holds the interim title). But when they fought he just dominated Herring and get this title solidifying his status. And then fought Oscar Valdez for the WBC World Super Feather in which he knock down Valdez 2x, (which also that time is bigger than Shakur in terms of name). With that win against the highly touted Valdez, his name is now on the limelight. But the true test for him will be the 135 lbs as there are a lot of great name boxers here.

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Maybe that's the only available dates that they can squeeze, but I think what's important is that Shakur will be able to fight in front of his hometown again justl like his last fight.

So regardless of the numbers, his fans is the sure winning here. And maybe the Japanese fighter too, he will get a good payday and then fight in the US for the first time. For Shakur just another fight, maybe it's a tune up for him in 135 lbs and then target big names later in this division. And there are a lot of them, so good for Shakur to have like a get busy fight at the start of this year.

Shakur is not a KO artist, so I would not be surprised if this fight does not earn a lot of money. Most boxers who have a lot of followers and supporters are those who can really entertain the crowd, so Shakur needs to fight a champion who is entertaining too in order to sell big numbers. Look at Ryan Garcia vs Tank Davis, both are KO artists, and they are already making lots of ticket sales.

A few days to go this fight will began and think this will be a good fight as well we all know that even though they are not just Master in KO or KO artist. But still for me that will bring us a good fight. But like you said mate that this fight will not earn a lot of money then I think you are right that. It because the popularity of a boxer matters and we all know that these fighters not a very known in the world so the crowd will be lesser than other popular fighter.

Yes, Shakur Stevenson may be a 2-belt champion in his previous division but he is not that fully known yet in this industry and in this new weight class that he's in, he will be start making his name because if he can manage to defeat Yoshino (which I know he can) and end the fight with a statement, there's a huge chance that his next fights will be against the champion. It might be an interim belt or even against the undisputed champion directly.

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Yes, ML is not that attractive considering that Shakur Stevenson is listed as heavy favorite by the bookies and certainly, you need to put a lot of funds for that moneyline before you can even consider the profits of your wager but putting a lot of funds into unattractive odds have a lot of risks entailed and surely nobody wanted that risks even if you're a bigtime gambler. I reckon that the Shakur win via KO/TKO might be much more profitable to bet since Shakur's ratio is just below 50 percent, let's just wait for another options in the weeks to come.

Shakur is a class fighter and we want to see him in big fights that will be considered a legacy fight after he hurdles this fight his handlers should secure a million-dollar legacy fights something like a Garcia - Davis fights or a Haney - Lomachenko.
this fight obviously lacks attention from the media because it's a cherry-picked fight its eclipsed by big fights but it's good that the fight will come early before big fights of the year.
All bookies will favor Shakur, it will shock the boxing world if he loses this fight.

That's just sad on their part because their bout has been scheduled on the same month where the big fights are also scheduled, furthermore, there's just less people who takes an interest on looking at this fight because aside from this is Shakur's debut at 135, he is also partnered with a name that isn't really famous to be viewed as an acid test to the former champion. Maybe the next fight will be favored for Shakur as it's speculated that he is about to face the winner of Haney-Loma fight.

Exactly, he won't get a lot of viewership on this one, but a win here will add another success to his career. Eventually, he'll meet a great challenger that fans will be excited to watch. It will be a fight that is hard to predict on who will win. Hopefully, he'll be up for a big challenge, as boxers who play it safe can be boring.

Well, that's just how life works because not everything will be favorable to a boxer's career.

Anyway, I'm just hopeful and rooting that Shakur's next fight will be a big and interesting one where he will get to be the challenger this time, just like what @stadus said, he is said to face the winner of Devin Haney versus Vasiliy Lomachenko fight. And that might happen somewhere before this year ends, but that is if there will be no mandatory title defense to the undisputed champion.

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Maybe that's the only available dates that they can squeeze, but I think what's important is that Shakur will be able to fight in front of his hometown again justl like his last fight.

So regardless of the numbers, his fans is the sure winning here. And maybe the Japanese fighter too, he will get a good payday and then fight in the US for the first time. For Shakur just another fight, maybe it's a tune up for him in 135 lbs and then target big names later in this division. And there are a lot of them, so good for Shakur to have like a get busy fight at the start of this year.

Shakur is not a KO artist, so I would not be surprised if this fight does not earn a lot of money. Most boxers who have a lot of followers and supporters are those who can really entertain the crowd, so Shakur needs to fight a champion who is entertaining too in order to sell big numbers. Look at Ryan Garcia vs Tank Davis, both are KO artists, and they are already making lots of ticket sales.

A few days to go this fight will began and think this will be a good fight as well we all know that even though they are not just Master in KO or KO artist. But still for me that will bring us a good fight. But like you said mate that this fight will not earn a lot of money then I think you are right that. It because the popularity of a boxer matters and we all know that these fighters not a very known in the world so the crowd will be lesser than other popular fighter.

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Quote from: btc_angela on March 18, 2023, 06:21:11 AM

Maybe that's the only available dates that they can squeeze, but I think what's important is that Shakur will be able to fight in front of his hometown again justl like his last fight.

So regardless of the numbers, his fans is the sure winning here. And maybe the Japanese fighter too, he will get a good payday and then fight in the US for the first time. For Shakur just another fight, maybe it's a tune up for him in 135 lbs and then target big names later in this division. And there are a lot of them, so good for Shakur to have like a get busy fight at the start of this year.

Shakur is not a KO artist, so I would not be surprised if this fight does not earn a lot of money. Most boxers who have a lot of followers and supporters are those who can really entertain the crowd, so Shakur needs to fight a champion who is entertaining too in order to sell big numbers. Look at Ryan Garcia vs Tank Davis, both are KO artists, and they are already making lots of ticket sales.

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Yes, ML is not that attractive considering that Shakur Stevenson is listed as heavy favorite by the bookies and certainly, you need to put a lot of funds for that moneyline before you can even consider the profits of your wager but putting a lot of funds into unattractive odds have a lot of risks entailed and surely nobody wanted that risks even if you're a bigtime gambler. I reckon that the Shakur win via KO/TKO might be much more profitable to bet since Shakur's ratio is just below 50 percent, let's just wait for another options in the weeks to come.

Shakur is a class fighter and we want to see him in big fights that will be considered a legacy fight after he hurdles this fight his handlers should secure a million-dollar legacy fights something like a Garcia - Davis fights or a Haney - Lomachenko.
this fight obviously lacks attention from the media because it's a cherry-picked fight its eclipsed by big fights but it's good that the fight will come early before big fights of the year.
All bookies will favor Shakur, it will shock the boxing world if he loses this fight.

That's just sad on their part because their bout has been scheduled on the same month where the big fights are also scheduled, furthermore, there's just less people who takes an interest on looking at this fight because aside from this is Shakur's debut at 135, he is also partnered with a name that isn't really famous to be viewed as an acid test to the former champion. Maybe the next fight will be favored for Shakur as it's speculated that he is about to face the winner of Haney-Loma fight.

Exactly, he won't get a lot of viewership on this one, but a win here will add another success to his career. Eventually, he'll meet a great challenger that fans will be excited to watch. It will be a fight that is hard to predict on who will win. Hopefully, he'll be up for a big challenge, as boxers who play it safe can be boring.

Maybe that's the only available dates that they can squeeze, but I think what's important is that Shakur will be able to fight in front of his hometown again justl like his last fight.

So regardless of the numbers, his fans is the sure winning here. And maybe the Japanese fighter too, he will get a good payday and then fight in the US for the first time. For Shakur just another fight, maybe it's a tune up for him in 135 lbs and then target big names later in this division. And there are a lot of them, so good for Shakur to have like a get busy fight at the start of this year.

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Yes, ML is not that attractive considering that Shakur Stevenson is listed as heavy favorite by the bookies and certainly, you need to put a lot of funds for that moneyline before you can even consider the profits of your wager but putting a lot of funds into unattractive odds have a lot of risks entailed and surely nobody wanted that risks even if you're a bigtime gambler. I reckon that the Shakur win via KO/TKO might be much more profitable to bet since Shakur's ratio is just below 50 percent, let's just wait for another options in the weeks to come.

Shakur is a class fighter and we want to see him in big fights that will be considered a legacy fight after he hurdles this fight his handlers should secure a million-dollar legacy fights something like a Garcia - Davis fights or a Haney - Lomachenko.
this fight obviously lacks attention from the media because it's a cherry-picked fight its eclipsed by big fights but it's good that the fight will come early before big fights of the year.
All bookies will favor Shakur, it will shock the boxing world if he loses this fight.

That's just sad on their part because their bout has been scheduled on the same month where the big fights are also scheduled, furthermore, there's just less people who takes an interest on looking at this fight because aside from this is Shakur's debut at 135, he is also partnered with a name that isn't really famous to be viewed as an acid test to the former champion. Maybe the next fight will be favored for Shakur as it's speculated that he is about to face the winner of Haney-Loma fight.

Exactly, he won't get a lot of viewership on this one, but a win here will add another success to his career. Eventually, he'll meet a great challenger that fans will be excited to watch. It will be a fight that is hard to predict on who will win. Hopefully, he'll be up for a big challenge, as boxers who play it safe can be boring.

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Yes, ML is not that attractive considering that Shakur Stevenson is listed as heavy favorite by the bookies and certainly, you need to put a lot of funds for that moneyline before you can even consider the profits of your wager but putting a lot of funds into unattractive odds have a lot of risks entailed and surely nobody wanted that risks even if you're a bigtime gambler. I reckon that the Shakur win via KO/TKO might be much more profitable to bet since Shakur's ratio is just below 50 percent, let's just wait for another options in the weeks to come.

Shakur is a class fighter and we want to see him in big fights that will be considered a legacy fight after he hurdles this fight his handlers should secure a million-dollar legacy fights something like a Garcia - Davis fights or a Haney - Lomachenko.
this fight obviously lacks attention from the media because it's a cherry-picked fight its eclipsed by big fights but it's good that the fight will come early before big fights of the year.
All bookies will favor Shakur, it will shock the boxing world if he loses this fight.

That's just sad on their part because their bout has been scheduled on the same month where the big fights are also scheduled, furthermore, there's just less people who takes an interest on looking at this fight because aside from this is Shakur's debut at 135, he is also partnered with a name that isn't really famous to be viewed as an acid test to the former champion. Maybe the next fight will be favored for Shakur as it's speculated that he is about to face the winner of Haney-Loma fight.

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Yes, ML is not that attractive considering that Shakur Stevenson is listed as heavy favorite by the bookies and certainly, you need to put a lot of funds for that moneyline before you can even consider the profits of your wager but putting a lot of funds into unattractive odds have a lot of risks entailed and surely nobody wanted that risks even if you're a bigtime gambler. I reckon that the Shakur win via KO/TKO might be much more profitable to bet since Shakur's ratio is just below 50 percent, let's just wait for another options in the weeks to come.

Shakur is a class fighter and we want to see him in big fights that will be considered a legacy fight after he hurdles this fight his handlers should secure a million-dollar legacy fights something like a Garcia - Davis fights or a Haney - Lomachenko.
this fight obviously lacks attention from the media because it's a cherry-picked fight its eclipsed by big fights but it's good that the fight will come early before big fights of the year.
All bookies will favor Shakur, it will shock the boxing world if he loses this fight.

ML is not attractive maybe we will wait for more option when the fight starts something like what round or the range of it before
the fight ended or if it's KO or Decision winner,

But along the way, it's Shakur who really have the upper hand and just how you say it, a cherry-pick for him and bookies will give him the big edge.

Moving on, let's wait for some opportunity to make some bucks here if there's something decent.

It's likely a cherry pick fight for Shakur, but in terms of exposure, I think the Japanese will take advantage of him in front of the American audience although he knows that his chances are very slim to win, but he will obviously give his best on this fight.

I'm not sure what betting options should be good here.

I mean if we wanted to make money, it should be to the Japanese, but we don't like that risk, and so maybe Shakur or just let this be a pass for some of us.

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Quote from: stadus on March 15, 2023, 06:49:38 PM

Yes, ML is not that attractive considering that Shakur Stevenson is listed as heavy favorite by the bookies and certainly, you need to put a lot of funds for that moneyline before you can even consider the profits of your wager but putting a lot of funds into unattractive odds have a lot of risks entailed and surely nobody wanted that risks even if you're a bigtime gambler. I reckon that the Shakur win via KO/TKO might be much more profitable to bet since Shakur's ratio is just below 50 percent, let's just wait for another options in the weeks to come.

Shakur is a class fighter and we want to see him in big fights that will be considered a legacy fight after he hurdles this fight his handlers should secure a million-dollar legacy fights something like a Garcia - Davis fights or a Haney - Lomachenko.
this fight obviously lacks attention from the media because it's a cherry-picked fight its eclipsed by big fights but it's good that the fight will come early before big fights of the year.
All bookies will favor Shakur, it will shock the boxing world if he loses this fight.

ML is not attractive maybe we will wait for more option when the fight starts something like what round or the range of it before
the fight ended or if it's KO or Decision winner,

But along the way, it's Shakur who really have the upper hand and just how you say it, a cherry-pick for him and bookies will give him the big edge.

Moving on, let's wait for some opportunity to make some bucks here if there's something decent.

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It could be, Shakur's ratio might be 47% and got a much lower ratio than the Japanese but I cannot really include that as basis because the latter is more of a local boxer to me because all of his fight are being held inside Japan, hence why most of his title are labeled as Asia Pacific. I'm more inclined that there's a good reason why Shakur's camp chose Yoshino and that is to highlight his debut.

It could be the right ratio --perhaps that is true that Shuichiro Yoshino may have a higher win ratio than Shakur Stevenson, but sometimes we give to consider the level of competition each boxer has faced. But we should not be comfortable with that --Shakur Stevenson has already established himself as a world-class boxer, having won a silver medal at the 2016 Olympics and held the WBO featherweight title and I think it is also a great consideration for him.

Exactly, it's the level of opposition too, that we need to look at and not just the record per se. So maybe Yoshino has more fights and high knockout ratio, but it doesn't mean that he is the better of the two.

Still boils down on who this fighter has, on the other hand, just the last 3 fighters that Shakur face might not be enough for the whole resume of the Japanese to match, just saying. So that alone shows how both fighters are very different, and it is reflected on the odds itself.

In terms of quickness and ring IQ, those belong to Stevenson. So even though Yoshino is a KO artist, I don't think he will be able to hit Stevenson with solid shots. That's a lot to ask for him, and since he isn't a popular boxer, I don't expect he will make it. This fight will most likely result in an additional win for Stevenson and an easy one at that.

As for the betting odds, Shakur is 1.08 to win.

https://www.aceodds.com/bet-calculator/odds-converter.html

1.08 is such a nay!
But you only need to put in a really huge amount as it seems a safe bet unless Yoshino suddenly strikes a lucky lunch putting Shakur to sleep and there goes your money. Not very attractive odds but it's also obvious Yoshi is not popular internationally and with limited exposure. Why there were even matched to fight is surprising.

Yes, that is a big nah for us boxing bettors, it's not worth a risk to bet with that kind of odds, I have showed a few pages back what other betting options. But a ML like for Shakur has no value, we might as better just wait for other boxing events to where we gonna put our money with.

And speaking of Shakur here is a video wherein him and Haney run into each other on Top Rank's boxing gym.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQcZd3pTZlc

It's a bit funny, but who knows, maybe in the future, this two are going to fight in out for the belt as Shakur is going up to 135 lbs.

Maybe in the future if Loma wins against Haney, then maybe Shakur will be the next in line. Good to see they are in speaking terms, I mean it's a small world for this boxers, they have the same promotional manager in Top Rank so they will have to crossed path in gyms.

And we can see the respect and the class act between the two.

No thrash talking, wonder though if Teo Lopez and Loma had the same encounter before they have their fights. Maybe there is disrespect towards each other, but who knows.

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Quote from: stadus on March 15, 2023, 06:49:38 PM

Yes, ML is not that attractive considering that Shakur Stevenson is listed as heavy favorite by the bookies and certainly, you need to put a lot of funds for that moneyline before you can even consider the profits of your wager but putting a lot of funds into unattractive odds have a lot of risks entailed and surely nobody wanted that risks even if you're a bigtime gambler. I reckon that the Shakur win via KO/TKO might be much more profitable to bet since Shakur's ratio is just below 50 percent, let's just wait for another options in the weeks to come.

Shakur is a class fighter and we want to see him in big fights that will be considered a legacy fight after he hurdles this fight his handlers should secure a million-dollar legacy fights something like a Garcia - Davis fights or a Haney - Lomachenko.
this fight obviously lacks attention from the media because it's a cherry-picked fight its eclipsed by big fights but it's good that the fight will come early before big fights of the year.
All bookies will favor Shakur, it will shock the boxing world if he loses this fight.

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