[Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8 - page 5.

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Nah, smart money should be on Shakur Stevenson and not on Yoshino. For me even with that huge odds for him, I wouldn't take that bite, just saying. Shakur will be too good for Yoshino in this fight. This is the Japanese first fight out of his native home country, and so there will be adjustment because this is a big stage and he might not take the limelight. As for what will be the good bet for Shakur, we will have to wait and see then. No value for ML, but if there are more options, then obviously we are going to bet on that with a higher odds.

I agree with you. No one will bet on this underdog since he is not even popular. Betting on Shakur does not necessarily mean you'll take the moneyline. There are other betting options, such as betting on the specific round Yoshino will be knocked out, or the range of rounds, which typically groups every three rounds. If you want higher odds, then bet on Shakur to win via KO. Based on his previous fights, he is not really a KO artist.

Even if we say Yoshino is popular, it's still not advisable to bet on him because the odds itself suggests that his chances are not that good against Shakur Stevenson if this is the latter's first fight in the weight class. Talking about the present odds, it's already expected that the ML is really not juicy because a 7:1? That's much more worse than the Butler-Inoue fight.
Hopefully, the bookies will release more betting options much sooner as we're already a month away from the fight date.

Yes, that thing with Yoshino is that he is not stateside, so bookies and fans are not familiar with him. Although we might see in his records that he is good, but still he is facing an American fighter who is in his prime and rising in ranks.

Bookies already released more options already mate, you can check it out already:

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Nah, smart money should be on Shakur Stevenson and not on Yoshino. For me even with that huge odds for him, I wouldn't take that bite, just saying. Shakur will be too good for Yoshino in this fight. This is the Japanese first fight out of his native home country, and so there will be adjustment because this is a big stage and he might not take the limelight. As for what will be the good bet for Shakur, we will have to wait and see then. No value for ML, but if there are more options, then obviously we are going to bet on that with a higher odds.

I agree with you. No one will bet on this underdog since he is not even popular. Betting on Shakur does not necessarily mean you'll take the moneyline. There are other betting options, such as betting on the specific round Yoshino will be knocked out, or the range of rounds, which typically groups every three rounds. If you want higher odds, then bet on Shakur to win via KO. Based on his previous fights, he is not really a KO artist.

Even if we say Yoshino is popular, it's still not advisable to bet on him because the odds itself suggests that his chances are not that good against Shakur Stevenson if this is the latter's first fight in the weight class. Talking about the present odds, it's already expected that the ML is really not juicy because a 7:1? That's much more worse than the Butler-Inoue fight.
Hopefully, the bookies will release more betting options much sooner as we're already a month away from the fight date.

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Quote from: Yamifoud on March 03, 2023, 03:26:31 AM

Quote from: Yaunfitda on March 03, 2023, 02:30:11 AM

Nah, smart money should be on Shakur Stevenson and not on Yoshino. For me even with that huge odds for him, I wouldn't take that bite, just saying. Shakur will be too good for Yoshino in this fight. This is the Japanese first fight out of his native home country, and so there will be adjustment because this is a big stage and he might not take the limelight. As for what will be the good bet for Shakur, we will have to wait and see then. No value for ML, but if there are more options, then obviously we are going to bet on that with a higher odds.

I agree with you. No one will bet on this underdog since he is not even popular. Betting on Shakur does not necessarily mean you'll take the moneyline. There are other betting options, such as betting on the specific round Yoshino will be knocked out, or the range of rounds, which typically groups every three rounds. If you want higher odds, then bet on Shakur to win via KO. Based on his previous fights, he is not really a KO artist.

Yep, ML is not attractive odds are very low t o bet on it.

Currently on my favorite sports bookies, the over/under rounds is 10.5 and it seems that the under looks juicy at 3.80 already, so I might look for that odds as this fight will not go to judges scorecard and Shakur might stop him with body shots.

And Shakur b KO/TKO = 3.75.

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on March 03, 2023, 02:30:11 AM

Nah, smart money should be on Shakur Stevenson and not on Yoshino. For me even with that huge odds for him, I wouldn't take that bite, just saying. Shakur will be too good for Yoshino in this fight. This is the Japanese first fight out of his native home country, and so there will be adjustment because this is a big stage and he might not take the limelight. As for what will be the good bet for Shakur, we will have to wait and see then. No value for ML, but if there are more options, then obviously we are going to bet on that with a higher odds.

I agree with you. No one will bet on this underdog since he is not even popular. Betting on Shakur does not necessarily mean you'll take the moneyline. There are other betting options, such as betting on the specific round Yoshino will be knocked out, or the range of rounds, which typically groups every three rounds. If you want higher odds, then bet on Shakur to win via KO. Based on his previous fights, he is not really a KO artist.

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Quote from: Baofeng on February 27, 2023, 05:17:10 PM

I check 2 sports bookies and so far the only is odds listed is the ML, so no value if we are going to bet on Shakur. But if we wanted to go for the Japanese underdog at 7.x, now is the time to bet (but as I have said, the chances are slim to win either by decision or ko/tko).

So let's wait for more line to be offered, maybe we can see some value if there will be more options for Shakur like winning by decision or even winning by knockout or which round. Maybe the referee will have to stop it when he sees the Japanese taking more damage from Shakur jab and pin point accuracy in this match.

Enticing for gambler who love to take the big risk and hope for some luck, 7x of your initial bet would be nice if the Japanese
fighter will manage to upset Shakur.

For sure, there are gamblers who will take the ML for Shakur even the winning odd is small, some might place a big amount to win
decently.

While for loyal fans who support Shakur, chances that even with small possible winnings it will add to their enjoyment while
watching the fight.

Nah, smart money should be on Shakur Stevenson and not on Yoshino. For me even with that huge odds for him, I wouldn't take that bite, just saying. Shakur will be too good for Yoshino in this fight. This is the Japanese first fight out of his native home country, and so there will be adjustment because this is a big stage and he might not take the limelight. As for what will be the good bet for Shakur, we will have to wait and see then. No value for ML, but if there are more options, then obviously we are going to bet on that with a higher odds.

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Quote from: carlisle1 on February 28, 2023, 01:24:07 PM

Quote from: Baofeng on February 27, 2023, 05:17:10 PM

I check 2 sports bookies and so far the only is odds listed is the ML, so no value if we are going to bet on Shakur. But if we wanted to go for the Japanese underdog at 7.x, now is the time to bet (but as I have said, the chances are slim to win either by decision or ko/tko).

So let's wait for more line to be offered, maybe we can see some value if there will be more options for Shakur like winning by decision or even winning by knockout or which round. Maybe the referee will have to stop it when he sees the Japanese taking more damage from Shakur jab and pin point accuracy in this match.

Enticing for gambler who love to take the big risk and hope for some luck, 7x of your initial bet would be nice if the Japanese
fighter will manage to upset Shakur.

Yes, there might be some gamblers willing to take that huge risk and bet on the underdog here. Perhaps some of his Japanese might will do.

Quote from: carlisle1 on February 28, 2023, 01:24:07 PM

For sure, there are gamblers who will take the ML for Shakur even the winning odd is small, some might place a big amount to win
decently.

While for loyal fans who support Shakur, chances that even with small possible winnings it will add to their enjoyment while
watching the fight.

On the other hard, there is also Shakur's fan, not sure though if they are taking that ML because the returns are not profitable, unless they are whales or have deep pockets. Of course or money will be on Shakur, but we will have to wait for other betting options, to at least get a good odds for or money in this fight. Decision or later stoppage might be a good option to look at this fight.

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But it's slim though, we all know how good Shakur is and he wouldn't let someone deter his goals of fighting for the belt next. So we should lean on Shakur with a big win via ko/tko.

The winning method odds for Shakur to win via knockout should be high because he's not a knockout artist, so it would be profitable if you want to bet that's option. Yoshino haven't lose in any fight and he tend to win via knockout, so it's quite hard to judge how good his chin. I still think Shakur win via decision is high likely to happen, but the odds still not included and if it's not worth, it's better for me to bet via knockout.

Exactly, the likelihood of Shakur winning by KO is not high. Would you bet on Shakur to win via KO, knowing his boring strategy in boxing? Personally, I doubt that he will win by KO in this fight. Most likely, it will still go the full 12 rounds, and he will win via unanimous decision. However, if you like to have fun and are willing to take the risk, then Shakur winning by KO could be the right bet for you.

I agree though, his knockout percentage is not even 50%, so most likely it will be a long and deliberate fight for him against Yoshino, unless he become a big hitter and Yoshino doesn't have a good chin to begin with.

It might be better though for me at least, so just sit out this match.

And wait for the outcome because the next fight might be the good one to bet. Shakur vs the winner of Haney vs Loma.

If you can take that risk and you are aiming for a considerable profit then it's on you to decide. I mean, knowing the strategy
of Shakur, he will continue to seek for his advantage in winning by UD.

Unless he's camp already change his strategy and starts practicing him on a KO base fight, we can't tell if how things will proceed.

It's on the bettors' decision whether to bet on KO or UD, but most likely Shakur is the favorite here.

also, shakur's name rings a bell more than his japanese opponent. so yeah, i agree that shakur will be the favourite of bookies here. if you are not very sure about the winning method for this match, you can always place a bet in the major betting line. but in my opinion, shakur will likely win on this match. but should not be confident as the KO percentage of yoshino is about 75% as compared to 47% for shakur.

Who would not know about who is Shakur Stevenson when the man almost dominated the whole super featherweight and if it weren't for his weight issues, he could've defeated Robson legally and probably will become the undisputed champion in the years to come. But it is what it is, he is now campaigning at lightweight where there's so many huge names in the same division. It might unfortunate for the Japanese boxer but I strongly think that he's just a stepping stone.

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Quote from: Jating on February 04, 2023, 09:09:49 PM

^^ I would agree, decent to good opponent for Shakur but I doubt that he can upset Stevenson at this point. So I will have to put Shakur here winning maybe by a knockout or complete domination of the fight.

No offense to the Japanese fighter, he had the belt in Asia, beat Nakatani who gave Teo Lopez all he can handle and also fought Loma in his comeback fight. But that is not enough resume to beat the likes of Shakur right now.

Shuichiro Yoshino is an impressive boxer and I do not doubt that he will give Shakur Stevenson a good fight and maybe even make Shakur sweat nervously a bit. But there is no denying that Shakur is going to be the winner of this upcoming match. Absolutely no doubt in my mind. That is just how good Shakur is. Yoshino is a promising boxer but he does not have the necessary skills and experience to fight against the big dogs.

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Quote from: Baofeng on February 27, 2023, 05:17:10 PM

I check 2 sports bookies and so far the only is odds listed is the ML, so no value if we are going to bet on Shakur. But if we wanted to go for the Japanese underdog at 7.x, now is the time to bet (but as I have said, the chances are slim to win either by decision or ko/tko).

So let's wait for more line to be offered, maybe we can see some value if there will be more options for Shakur like winning by decision or even winning by knockout or which round. Maybe the referee will have to stop it when he sees the Japanese taking more damage from Shakur jab and pin point accuracy in this match.

Enticing for gambler who love to take the big risk and hope for some luck, 7x of your initial bet would be nice if the Japanese
fighter will manage to upset Shakur.

For sure, there are gamblers who will take the ML for Shakur even the winning odd is small, some might place a big amount to win
decently.

While for loyal fans who support Shakur, chances that even with small possible winnings it will add to their enjoyment while
watching the fight.

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But it's slim though, we all know how good Shakur is and he wouldn't let someone deter his goals of fighting for the belt next. So we should lean on Shakur with a big win via ko/tko.

The winning method odds for Shakur to win via knockout should be high because he's not a knockout artist, so it would be profitable if you want to bet that's option. Yoshino haven't lose in any fight and he tend to win via knockout, so it's quite hard to judge how good his chin. I still think Shakur win via decision is high likely to happen, but the odds still not included and if it's not worth, it's better for me to bet via knockout.

Exactly, the likelihood of Shakur winning by KO is not high. Would you bet on Shakur to win via KO, knowing his boring strategy in boxing? Personally, I doubt that he will win by KO in this fight. Most likely, it will still go the full 12 rounds, and he will win via unanimous decision. However, if you like to have fun and are willing to take the risk, then Shakur winning by KO could be the right bet for you.

I agree though, his knockout percentage is not even 50%, so most likely it will be a long and deliberate fight for him against Yoshino, unless he become a big hitter and Yoshino doesn't have a good chin to begin with.

It might be better though for me at least, so just sit out this match.

And wait for the outcome because the next fight might be the good one to bet. Shakur vs the winner of Haney vs Loma.

If you can take that risk and you are aiming for a considerable profit then it's on you to decide. I mean, knowing the strategy
of Shakur, he will continue to seek for his advantage in winning by UD.

Unless he's camp already change his strategy and starts practicing him on a KO base fight, we can't tell if how things will proceed.

It's on the bettors' decision whether to bet on KO or UD, but most likely Shakur is the favorite here.

also, shakur's name rings a bell more than his japanese opponent. so yeah, i agree that shakur will be the favourite of bookies here. if you are not very sure about the winning method for this match, you can always place a bet in the major betting line. but in my opinion, shakur will likely win on this match. but should not be confident as the KO percentage of yoshino is about 75% as compared to 47% for shakur.

I check 2 sports bookies and so far the only is odds listed is the ML, so no value if we are going to bet on Shakur. But if we wanted to go for the Japanese underdog at 7.x, now is the time to bet (but as I have said, the chances are slim to win either by decision or ko/tko).

So let's wait for more line to be offered, maybe we can see some value if there will be more options for Shakur like winning by decision or even winning by knockout or which round. Maybe the referee will have to stop it when he sees the Japanese taking more damage from Shakur jab and pin point accuracy in this match.

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But it's slim though, we all know how good Shakur is and he wouldn't let someone deter his goals of fighting for the belt next. So we should lean on Shakur with a big win via ko/tko.

The winning method odds for Shakur to win via knockout should be high because he's not a knockout artist, so it would be profitable if you want to bet that's option. Yoshino haven't lose in any fight and he tend to win via knockout, so it's quite hard to judge how good his chin. I still think Shakur win via decision is high likely to happen, but the odds still not included and if it's not worth, it's better for me to bet via knockout.

Exactly, the likelihood of Shakur winning by KO is not high. Would you bet on Shakur to win via KO, knowing his boring strategy in boxing? Personally, I doubt that he will win by KO in this fight. Most likely, it will still go the full 12 rounds, and he will win via unanimous decision. However, if you like to have fun and are willing to take the risk, then Shakur winning by KO could be the right bet for you.

I agree though, his knockout percentage is not even 50%, so most likely it will be a long and deliberate fight for him against Yoshino, unless he become a big hitter and Yoshino doesn't have a good chin to begin with.

It might be better though for me at least, so just sit out this match.

And wait for the outcome because the next fight might be the good one to bet. Shakur vs the winner of Haney vs Loma.

If you can take that risk and you are aiming for a considerable profit then it's on you to decide. I mean, knowing the strategy
of Shakur, he will continue to seek for his advantage in winning by UD.

Unless he's camp already change his strategy and starts practicing him on a KO base fight, we can't tell if how things will proceed.

It's on the bettors' decision whether to bet on KO or UD, but most likely Shakur is the favorite here.

also, shakur's name rings a bell more than his japanese opponent. so yeah, i agree that shakur will be the favourite of bookies here. if you are not very sure about the winning method for this match, you can always place a bet in the major betting line. but in my opinion, shakur will likely win on this match. but should not be confident as the KO percentage of yoshino is about 75% as compared to 47% for shakur.

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But it's slim though, we all know how good Shakur is and he wouldn't let someone deter his goals of fighting for the belt next. So we should lean on Shakur with a big win via ko/tko.

The winning method odds for Shakur to win via knockout should be high because he's not a knockout artist, so it would be profitable if you want to bet that's option. Yoshino haven't lose in any fight and he tend to win via knockout, so it's quite hard to judge how good his chin. I still think Shakur win via decision is high likely to happen, but the odds still not included and if it's not worth, it's better for me to bet via knockout.

Exactly, the likelihood of Shakur winning by KO is not high. Would you bet on Shakur to win via KO, knowing his boring strategy in boxing? Personally, I doubt that he will win by KO in this fight. Most likely, it will still go the full 12 rounds, and he will win via unanimous decision. However, if you like to have fun and are willing to take the risk, then Shakur winning by KO could be the right bet for you.

I agree though, his knockout percentage is not even 50%, so most likely it will be a long and deliberate fight for him against Yoshino, unless he become a big hitter and Yoshino doesn't have a good chin to begin with.

It might be better though for me at least, so just sit out this match.

And wait for the outcome because the next fight might be the good one to bet. Shakur vs the winner of Haney vs Loma.

If you can take that risk and you are aiming for a considerable profit then it's on you to decide. I mean, knowing the strategy
of Shakur, he will continue to seek for his advantage in winning by UD.

Unless he's camp already change his strategy and starts practicing him on a KO base fight, we can't tell if how things will proceed.

It's on the bettors' decision whether to bet on KO or UD, but most likely Shakur is the favorite here.

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Their record is well paired. Both have an undefeated record and have power punches that can knock out their opponent. Though I have a feeling that this will be an easy fight for Shakur Stevenson since looking at the quality of the opponent, Stevenson has faced a better opponent and beat them. This will be a test for the Japanese fighter if he can be as hot as Naoya Inoue in terms of dominating the ring.

Quote from: mirakal on February 25, 2023, 03:13:27 PM

Both boxers wanted the rewards that is earned after this fight but only one of them will continue successfully as a draw in this bout is very unlikely to happen and besides, we both know here who got the right talent to continue on his journey and who doesn't have what it takes to take the said reward. Shakur is on a campaign to get either Haney or Loma, so I don't really think that he'll just give this Japanese guy an easy way in.

I think this fight will have one fighter kissing the canvas since both have devastating power punches.

In terms of record, yes, it is well paired but on power level? I guess no, we probably know why as even the bookies gave 7:1 underdog odds to Yoshino despite having a good record but that record was just established inside Japan, so more like a localize fights rather than being held in an international ring like this bout.

Still though, we shouldn't be careless because there are some cases that the heavy underdogs will rise from the mud and defeat the favorite. But in this case, I definitely think that the chances are really slim and it's just unfortunate for Yoshino because he's being paired with Shakur.

Bookies certainly don't believe Yoshi can make it and I think the odds they give are reasonable because he hasn't fought anyone with remarkable.

Yesterday I watch a fight that I also thought was an easy win and then I lose when an upset happen. I tend to bet a sum for it is quite funny that I planned to celebrate before the fight happened. They are developing Shakur for a bigger fight. Although this might be more than a 50% win for Shakur, I will limit my wager to a minimum.

Yes mate, sometimes fate itself present to us unexpectedly as who knows, we are just betting on a specific fighter who does have a good chance of winning the fight but there are some instances that the underdog will heavily upset the crowd favorite and of course, the bookies favorite. At least, you and I pretty much learned a lesson about it Grin

In this fight, it's really hard to believe that Shakur will be the one who will get defeated by a local Japanese boxer who may have a pretty record but doesn't have a good boxer listed on his resume. But just like you, I also think that it's better to limit my wager but I'm also looking for another betting option which as of now are not yet published.

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Quote from: serjent05 on February 25, 2023, 03:50:57 PM

Their record is well paired. Both have an undefeated record and have power punches that can knock out their opponent. Though I have a feeling that this will be an easy fight for Shakur Stevenson since looking at the quality of the opponent, Stevenson has faced a better opponent and beat them. This will be a test for the Japanese fighter if he can be as hot as Naoya Inoue in terms of dominating the ring.

Quote from: mirakal on February 25, 2023, 03:13:27 PM

Both boxers wanted the rewards that is earned after this fight but only one of them will continue successfully as a draw in this bout is very unlikely to happen and besides, we both know here who got the right talent to continue on his journey and who doesn't have what it takes to take the said reward. Shakur is on a campaign to get either Haney or Loma, so I don't really think that he'll just give this Japanese guy an easy way in.

I think this fight will have one fighter kissing the canvas since both have devastating power punches.

In terms of record, yes, it is well paired but on power level? I guess no, we probably know why as even the bookies gave 7:1 underdog odds to Yoshino despite having a good record but that record was just established inside Japan, so more like a localize fights rather than being held in an international ring like this bout.

Still though, we shouldn't be careless because there are some cases that the heavy underdogs will rise from the mud and defeat the favorite. But in this case, I definitely think that the chances are really slim and it's just unfortunate for Yoshino because he's being paired with Shakur.

Bookies certainly don't believe Yoshi can make it and I think the odds they give are reasonable because he hasn't fought anyone with remarkable.

Yesterday I watch a fight that I also thought was an easy win and then I lose when an upset happen. I tend to bet a sum for it is quite funny that I planned to celebrate before the fight happened. They are developing Shakur for a bigger fight. Although this might be more than a 50% win for Shakur, I will limit my wager to a minimum.

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Quote from: serjent05 on February 25, 2023, 03:50:57 PM

Their record is well paired. Both have an undefeated record and have power punches that can knock out their opponent. Though I have a feeling that this will be an easy fight for Shakur Stevenson since looking at the quality of the opponent, Stevenson has faced a better opponent and beat them. This will be a test for the Japanese fighter if he can be as hot as Naoya Inoue in terms of dominating the ring.

Quote from: mirakal on February 25, 2023, 03:13:27 PM

Both boxers wanted the rewards that is earned after this fight but only one of them will continue successfully as a draw in this bout is very unlikely to happen and besides, we both know here who got the right talent to continue on his journey and who doesn't have what it takes to take the said reward. Shakur is on a campaign to get either Haney or Loma, so I don't really think that he'll just give this Japanese guy an easy way in.

I think this fight will have one fighter kissing the canvas since both have devastating power punches.

In terms of record, yes, it is well paired but on power level? I guess no, we probably know why as even the bookies gave 7:1 underdog odds to Yoshino despite having a good record but that record was just established inside Japan, so more like a localize fights rather than being held in an international ring like this bout.

Still though, we shouldn't be careless because there are some cases that the heavy underdogs will rise from the mud and defeat the favorite. But in this case, I definitely think that the chances are really slim and it's just unfortunate for Yoshino because he's being paired with Shakur.

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Their record is well paired. Both have an undefeated record and have power punches that can knock out their opponent. Though I have a feeling that this will be an easy fight for Shakur Stevenson since looking at the quality of the opponent, Stevenson has faced a better opponent and beat them. This will be a test for the Japanese fighter if he can be as hot as Naoya Inoue in terms of dominating the ring.

Quote from: mirakal on February 25, 2023, 03:13:27 PM

Both boxers wanted the rewards that is earned after this fight but only one of them will continue successfully as a draw in this bout is very unlikely to happen and besides, we both know here who got the right talent to continue on his journey and who doesn't have what it takes to take the said reward. Shakur is on a campaign to get either Haney or Loma, so I don't really think that he'll just give this Japanese guy an easy way in.

I think this fight will have one fighter kissing the canvas since both have devastating power punches.

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Quote from: btc_angela on February 25, 2023, 07:02:56 AM

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But it's slim though, we all know how good Shakur is and he wouldn't let someone deter his goals of fighting for the belt next. So we should lean on Shakur with a big win via ko/tko.

The winning method odds for Shakur to win via knockout should be high because he's not a knockout artist, so it would be profitable if you want to bet that's option. Yoshino haven't lose in any fight and he tend to win via knockout, so it's quite hard to judge how good his chin. I still think Shakur win via decision is high likely to happen, but the odds still not included and if it's not worth, it's better for me to bet via knockout.

Exactly, the likelihood of Shakur winning by KO is not high. Would you bet on Shakur to win via KO, knowing his boring strategy in boxing? Personally, I doubt that he will win by KO in this fight. Most likely, it will still go the full 12 rounds, and he will win via unanimous decision. However, if you like to have fun and are willing to take the risk, then Shakur winning by KO could be the right bet for you.

I agree though, his knockout percentage is not even 50%, so most likely it will be a long and deliberate fight for him against Yoshino, unless he become a big hitter and Yoshino doesn't have a good chin to begin with.

It might be better though for me at least, so just sit out this match.

And wait for the outcome because the next fight might be the good one to bet. Shakur vs the winner of Haney vs Loma.

That depends on the bettor really because there are some bettors who does like adventures and taking a different bets on a single bout to somehow enhance their winnings. Besides, a 47 percent KO ratio of Shakur Stevenson is not that bad as eventually, he might add on that ratio and possibly on this fight. I believe he can somehow grab a win by a way of TKO/KO, he even managed to do it last 2021 on his 1st chase on the title against Jamel Herring to get the WBO title, who was the champion at that time.

I know that his chances to have that outcome is not that good, it's still better to bet on a decision. But it's also not a bad idea after all to throw some few spare bucks on the KO/TKO outcome considering that his ratio is not that high, so the bookies might give a juicy odds on that option.

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Are anyone here surprised by the odds?

I just check on sportsbet and Yoshino is 7:1 underdog. For me I'm, it's expected that this is somewhat be relatively easy fight for Shakur against the Japanese. And Shakur should win here and if he does, as per Bob Arum, he will get the winner of the Loma and Haney fight. So that will be the most compelling fight for Shakur next.

I can't really say if I'm surprised or not because somehow I was already expecting that Yoshino will be a heavy underdog in this fight like a 4:1 odds but 7:1? That's like underestimating Yoshino and just another way of saying that there's no way he can stand up against or defeat Shakur Stevenson. To sum up the upcoming fight, I'm not expecting either from the Japanese boxer because I'm seeing him as more like a local and not used to get in the world stage/ring.

Just good thing though that Shakur Stevenson (granting that he won this bout) will get to fight the winner of Loma-Haney fight. That's what I wanted to see.

Yes, that's the word "underestimated" because the bookies are indeed underestimating Yoshino that his chances to defeat Shakur is little less than slim but what can we do, the bookies surely know the chances as well because this debut fight of Shakur highlights him making a statement as he will going to fight either Lomancheko or Haney soon after this. Same here though, I'm also leaning in-favor of Shakur to win by a way of TKO/KO.

Those handicappers really knows what they do, they are good in what they are doing here so I agree with that odds that they released right now. This is going to be no easy fight though for Shakure because Yoshino wanted to break barriers here and fight in the US and this is his chance as he will have the biggest stage to become known.

But it's slim though, we all know how good Shakur is and he wouldn't let someone deter his goals of fighting for the belt next. So we should lean on Shakur with a big win via ko/tko.

Both boxers wanted the rewards that is earned after this fight but only one of them will continue successfully as a draw in this bout is very unlikely to happen and besides, we both know here who got the right talent to continue on his journey and who doesn't have what it takes to take the said reward. Shakur is on a campaign to get either Haney or Loma, so I don't really think that he'll just give this Japanese guy an easy way in.

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Quote from: Japinat on February 25, 2023, 06:46:16 AM

Quote from: Jawhead999 on February 25, 2023, 06:08:59 AM

Quote from: Baofeng on February 24, 2023, 05:41:17 PM

But it's slim though, we all know how good Shakur is and he wouldn't let someone deter his goals of fighting for the belt next. So we should lean on Shakur with a big win via ko/tko.

The winning method odds for Shakur to win via knockout should be high because he's not a knockout artist, so it would be profitable if you want to bet that's option. Yoshino haven't lose in any fight and he tend to win via knockout, so it's quite hard to judge how good his chin. I still think Shakur win via decision is high likely to happen, but the odds still not included and if it's not worth, it's better for me to bet via knockout.

Exactly, the likelihood of Shakur winning by KO is not high. Would you bet on Shakur to win via KO, knowing his boring strategy in boxing? Personally, I doubt that he will win by KO in this fight. Most likely, it will still go the full 12 rounds, and he will win via unanimous decision. However, if you like to have fun and are willing to take the risk, then Shakur winning by KO could be the right bet for you.

I agree though, his knockout percentage is not even 50%, so most likely it will be a long and deliberate fight for him against Yoshino, unless he become a big hitter and Yoshino doesn't have a good chin to begin with.

It might be better though for me at least, so just sit out this match.

And wait for the outcome because the next fight might be the good one to bet. Shakur vs the winner of Haney vs Loma.

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Quote from: Jawhead999 on February 25, 2023, 06:08:59 AM

Quote from: Baofeng on February 24, 2023, 05:41:17 PM

But it's slim though, we all know how good Shakur is and he wouldn't let someone deter his goals of fighting for the belt next. So we should lean on Shakur with a big win via ko/tko.

The winning method odds for Shakur to win via knockout should be high because he's not a knockout artist, so it would be profitable if you want to bet that's option. Yoshino haven't lose in any fight and he tend to win via knockout, so it's quite hard to judge how good his chin. I still think Shakur win via decision is high likely to happen, but the odds still not included and if it's not worth, it's better for me to bet via knockout.

Exactly, the likelihood of Shakur winning by KO is not high. Would you bet on Shakur to win via KO, knowing his boring strategy in boxing? Personally, I doubt that he will win by KO in this fight. Most likely, it will still go the full 12 rounds, and he will win via unanimous decision. However, if you like to have fun and are willing to take the risk, then Shakur winning by KO could be the right bet for you.

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