Topic: Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions - page 189. (Read 31605 times)

He didn't even beat Yordenis Ugas on the last year, how can he just blatantly challenging the best boxer at welterweight division? it sound like he's just joking. I don't see any chance if Pacquiao can beat either Spence or Crawford, moreover Pacquiao has a high chance to get KO'ed by them lol.

At least he need a rematch against Ugas and prove if he's have a power to fight against Spence or Crawford, after that there's will be a lot hype if Pacquiao could beat them.

Well, there are indeed some doubts and that they believe Mayweather didn't deserved that win because Pacquiao outboxed him, mosty are fans of Pacquiao and the others were an independent but the noise they made that time created an issue that is why a remactch should happen but it didn't happen because Mayweather is not letting it. That will only remain a history and we can't do anything about that because we can't have the time go backwards.

Pacquiao wants Spence vs. Crawford winner


What do you think guys? Can Pacquiao still have that fierce to compete with either Errol Spence Jr. or Terence Crawford?

Personally, for me, even if he is fit and capable to fight, it's better to just enjoy his retirement while making money thru exhibition fights.

No need to achieve new things to add to his already established successful legacy. That's enough.

wilder is the monster and in heavy weight it seems tyson is the only one that can give him problems.. Lol not that helenius because it's nothing for him and surely it will get knocked out very early if wilder caught his weakness, strategy and technique.

And i noticed it as well that wilder is getting faster and stronger, he seems like a monster now that trying to regain his reputation on the heavy weight division.

I think Wilder's agility and speed depend on how he nourishes himself back.  If he didn't overweight we can possibly see Wilder moving lighter and may have a bit faster reflex with the same devastating one-punch KO.  I also think Wilder can win via KO against Helenius.  As I look at the record of Helenius, got stopped twice in his 3 losses so it is highly possible that Wilder will KO Helenius in this fight.  Though wilder is also got stopped twice but the KO percentage of Wilder is really high compared to Helenius.

I think Wilder just got unlucky on his two losses because it came from his nemesis - Tyson Fury who knows his Achilles heel.

The additional weight on his recent match against Fury takes a toil in the latter rounds, he should go back to his normal weight which is the lighter one, because whether he is light or heavy the power punch will always be there, but if you're heavier than your average weight the punch will be slower to come or telepathic but the impact is still there, coming gin heavy in his fight against Fury was a big gamble that backfires, Wilder should learn his lesson and go back to the weight where he is more comfortable.

And for the Helenius fight, Wilder came in a bit lighter as compare to his second fight with Fury,  214½ lbs, 23½ lbs lighter than what he weighed when Fury knock him. But this is what 'naturally' he weight during his career in the heavyweight.

And so it seems that we will be back to his usual weight and expect he will move lightly but still possesses that heavy handed hand to score a knock out win against Helenius.

But Fury get up from that big punch and finished the fight although the decision is somewhat sketchy. And it doesn't matter if he switched to boxing late, I mean he keep on winning fights at Barclays and then become a champion and there are talks about him and AJ fighting for the undisputed until Fury derail all the plans. So he is fighting Helenius, which I think he can defeated. But it might be a different fight if it will be Usyk or even Andy Ruiz Jr.

I also look at how many jabs Haney landed on Kambosos in the first fight and it's a lot. So that is a problem that George and his team have to resolved. Initially I never thought that Haney's length will not be a problem for Kambosos, but it is one of Haney's best weapon in the fight. If George can negate than by going inside and roughing Haney with some dirty tricks just to throw him off balance, I think he has a chance, but we don't know. Haney is really a good boxing and has good boxing IQ that is hard to beat.

Wilder switched to boxing late compared to other professional athletes so his technical problems have obvious reasons (if I'm not mistaken, he chose boxing after basketball), but it must be admitted that he has grown professionally throughout his career and although such a large gap in athletic youth cannot be completely corrected, Wilder has achieved a lot.
By the way, if in a fight with Fury he would have been a little more successful (for example, Fury could have remained lying down after knockouts), then now we would evaluate Wilder in a completely different way.

Same here, Mike Tyson already established his name in the industry and he is also a legendary that can't be forgotten by any boxing fans, even ordinary people knows him. He don't need to prove it again to anyone especially this time that his age is not appropriate to fight anymore even if it's just an exhibition fight.

Pretty clever inside and outside the ring. I mean he's got talent but less entertaining compared to most top boxers who can trade blows all throughout the fight. He carefully built his career and remain undefeated so he can demand whatever he want because he has the perfect record.

Anyway, has of you heard of the exhibition fight between Hatton and Barrera? I know this would not get enough attention as these both fighters are way way out of shape lol. I'm not sure what Hatton wants to happen, but I think he's trying to earn here once more. But, I'm a bit worried of his health as he was inactive for than 9 yrs.

I have no doubt that Kambosos would really want to even this rivalry, however, based on the stats, I still think Kambosos will be heavily dominated again and I would not be surprised with that, his odds is only enticing if you believe he has a decent chance of winning.

That is a bad plan in my opinion he might be underestimating his opponent so much because if you look at it on paper Wilder got all the advantages needed and Robert Helenius doesn't really fight with a well-known boxer or have a great career it is really just for the money and I think Robert Helenius is not that bad but also not that great for his reputation, for me Robert Helenius is not enough to return those reputations that were taken away by Tyson Fury, and if this should get his confidence back it is a false thing to do,


What I really don't know about that but knowing Mayweather and having so much money he can surely do that, if this is real then this is really unfair for most of his opponents that the only one that can win is non-other than him,


Yes, higher risk means large payments, maybe Kambosos Jr. will be having some plan before this fight, and Devin Haney is pretty much the one that might be shocked by what Kambosos might do, and that 1st fight was the 1st loss for Kambosos, so this is really going to be sweet revenge for George Kambosos Jr. if he pulls this up, but I am still going for Devin Haney,


Well, I think it is not really an error there are really two Maloney boxers and they are really fighting in the same event, and that was Andrew Moloney and Jason Moloney It was just the way I look at it at 1st glance that I thought my eye was fooling around because they got the same pictures, but seeing their names I thought they were brothers alright and upon reviewing their records they are actually twins, and they also have the same wining and losing records,

If there is something that they experienced as boxers, it is that you can make a lot of money with fights, this is a very big business model and that it can be used so that all of them as boxers are protagonists, even if it is as exhibition fights, something that sometimes I don't find it exciting because an exhibition fight is something fixed, when you fight at a professional level it's something else, it's another level, and I think that both should not say goodbye to their lives as professionals, I think they still have a lot to prove, More than anything, I'm going to side with Pacquiao, Mayweather is a great athlete but he's not to my liking, for many reasons, but for now I think they should go as businessmen, as long as they'll never be outside the boxing environment.


Well, I think that Kambosos wants to change everything they have about him and Haney, for me that Kambosos is already giving himself a lot of hard training to be able to achieve everything, I know that intelligence has a lot to do with boxing, in fact we have clear examples of intelligent boxers who have achieved good results thanks to the use of intelligence more than their own body, such as Mayweather, who although I do not like his style, I recognize that he applies intelligence and it is the only thing I admire him, without However, I think that Kambosos has also matured a lot and that makes him a much more professional boxer.


Yes, I have also noticed that, the team has a lot of confidence in him, well, come on, he is practically an iconic boxer and it may make a difference if with all the effort and dedication he can achieve results, and I think that nothing is impossible, and in boxing anything can happen, I have seen how in some fights, the high rollers who are considered whales lose a lot of money, just because the results that favor the statistics do not occur and this is considered a big hit, I know that the bets are going away a lot towards the rival and not towards Kambosos, but all this can be turned around and give the best surprises, this is what I like about boxing.

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Kambosos Jr wants to right the wrongs of the first fight with Haney




Source: https://neoskosmos.com/en/2022/10/14/sport/kambosos-jr-wants-to-right-the-wrongs-of-the-first-fight-with-haney/

This is if he wins. Few days left for this awaited fight. Given that he got the chance to come back without having to fight someone else. Kambosos' team must be very confident that he'd win.  Either by KO or decision, you'd still get a substantial win even if you just give it $10. Devin by KO is 3.40, this is the only option for a small timer to get a fair amount.

Aside from picking a fight that he can win, he also pick a referee that let him do his defensive strategy and is very sensitive to brawl and close-contact fighting making those who wanted a brawl to nullify their intent.



Kambosos really looks bad on his first fight against Haney, but I think his camp is somehow confident that Kambosos will do differently this time.  Also, the odds for Kambosos is very enticing, I might bet for Kambosos just to go after the better winnings with a higher risk.  Aside from that, I really wanted to see Kambosos winning this time.


Probably an upload error, I bet the editor has his ass get nagged for that error lol.

He is good in picking the fight that he will be taking, for sure if ever that a huge noise will created to push him to face Pacman again he will continue to ignore it, knowing that at this point of his physical condition he can't matchup with Pacman's capabilities, until now, there are still people who are questioning his win, we can remove the fact that Pacman's supporters believes that Pacman win that fight, with those numbers of throw punches and converted, though there's no way to contest that judgement and it will remain the same since both fighters/legends are now retired.


Boxing IQ is very important, it's applicable to both technical and skilled fighter, A good example is Pacman and Mayweather. Pacman used skills while Mayweather use technical strategy. It's the fighter's ways of fighting and how they will execute their strategy when they are already inside the ring.

I  try to look for Wilder's public workout and so far this is the latest that I have seen him,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qC5RGlArdyY

Just a short clip though, but he is going to the usual trainer and from my point of view, looks good and tone the usual against Helenius.

So we will see how Wilder, he still believes that he is one of the best and wanting to fight Usyk next.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKC8_tMz4hE

It's because Wilder just rely on his God given talent, that is one punch KO, but if it fails then there is no back up. He is not a technical boxer, he can't dance inside the ring, and that is his downfall.

And when he faces a technical fighter in Fury, he was really exposed. He got lucky in the first fight because he was able to knock down Fury, but Tyson get up from the best shot of Wilder and beat his ass on the second. So he is good but not on the elite level, and most Heavyweight boxers that is considered great are somewhat technical, and has both power and boxing IQ.