Topic: Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions - page 190. (Read 31941 times)

Crazy fight, I didn't expect him to finish the fight for 1 strong hit in the first round, he did it perfectly for the main fight, although he is rumored for the mega fight will fight Francis Ngannou but I also don't agree with the fight from different ring, looks like mcgregor vs mayweather. But how the fight Tyson Fury vs Wilder IV might be impossible for the next fight, because Wilder only has 2 defeat records from Tyson Fury.

I think at the end of the day both fighters really feel both their opponent and Claressa Shields have truly given a great fight even though Savannah Marshall was a huge and powerful shot fighter, and really this is a monumental fight for women's boxing and I really think both fighters have given their all, in making history, and both fighters on the post-fight interview have a legit air while they are talking and giving their thoughts on what they feel, and if there is a rematch then I would like to see again,

Results on my pick for the Wilder vs. Helenius event

Deontay Wilder VS Robert Helenius ROUND 1 - KO/TKO - WIN

It only takes 1 punch and 1 round to knockout Robert Helenius it was really a superb fight I already knew that his opponent is really no match against Deontay Wilder and Wilder needs a bigger opponent if not Tyson Fury an opponent that can withstand that Strong punching power that he had, I know that Francis Ngannoue has said that he will fight Wilder and both these men have crazy punching power, but I really want Ngannoue to stay on MMA while Wilder could fight a bigger opponent,

Caleb Plant VS Anthony Dirrell ROUND 9 - KO/TKO - WIN

Great fight, watching it really gave me the warriors vibes but when Dirrell Clinch he will surely give a punch to Plant, and Caleb Plant was really fast with his feet and when he attacks Dirrell can not see him, but it was really a great action, in my opinion, Plant always getting those clean shot, and on round 9 a shot to the body and a left hook was delivered by Plant to Dirrell, then he shovel to Dirrell's grave,

I think Wilder should fight someone who is not really that strong first to get himself back on track and he might gonna need it most after a long time rest after a straight loss. Usyk is not that easy and he might get in trouble if he gonna fights him in his comeback fight next year. Well! if both parties will decide to fight then it is a good fight and the fans will really love it. After all, all they want is for both figthers are getting to work their best skills in the ring with the right opponent.

Yeah, I think Helenius thought that Wilder doesn't have the mentality to stay in the fight. So he take it to him, and then got caught. And probably the weight difference, maybe copying Fury's blue print of imposing his full weight on him to get Wilder tired but it all back fired.


If I'm not mistaken, it was Usyk who says that he wants Wilder next. So let's see how it will go next year. Wilder win by knockout might scare Usyk.

Helenius has a bad game plan against Wilder. He pushes him and try to be the aggressor. But he forget to put his hand to protect his chin.

We all know that the Bronze Bomber still had that power despite him losing the twice to Fury. And with that win, his confidence is back. Usyk could be in the radar for him next. Gonna be a good fight as well but I guess Usyk technical skills will be too much for Wilder, just saying.

Respect will always be there after they fight and it was evident in the ladies as well. We all know that Shields is the complete fighter and you can't compare their performance in the amateur fights.

As as expected, Wilder going back to his one punch KO. And as I have said, Wilder coming in low in this fight, so he might be looking to be back in his old self, knocking out opponents.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9SGBvouy7U

You can see that once Wilder touches Helenius, it's over, look at the eye of Helenius in the canvass, it's scary.

It looks like Deontay Wilder is back scoring a first round knock out against Robert Helenius.  Helenius comes aggressive in the opening of the round but the thing I noticed is that every time he punches he is way too open for a counter punch which Wilder took advantage of.  Here is the part where Helenius is caught with a counterpunch after launching an attack.[1]


I really like how the talk on the post-fight interview  they shown respect to each other despite of some controversies that happened on their amateur days.  Shields had proven herself that she is the better boxer after 10 years but it won't change the fact that their amateur fight was judged wrongly.  

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[1] https://youtu.be/3JR0W8IVaFY?t=169

I agree. He should focus on whatever he is doing in politics.
Maybe he can say these things because he does not have much to do yet. He recently lost the presidential race and his position as a senator is over.
If he can take a new position in the government then perhaps that will keep his mind off boxing.
He had done enough and he made a lot of Filipinos proud. Sure, there will be a lot of money in PPV and advertisements but in exchange for another stain in his record is not worth it.

To answer that in my own words, Ugas doesn't have that chance if facing a prime Pacquiao. But things is no longer on Manny's control as age begins to bring the effect on his body, there's no doubt that he still want to fight and maybe there are many people who wanted this but he will just put his health at risk, there are many complications that may cause his life.

Better to let go of his past prime and enjoy doing exhibitions if he really wanted to entertain his fans.


Like what I've mentioned above, better to stick with easy money instead of risking his life, Pacquiao still has the charisma, bringing him inside the ring or putting his name on your articles will gather attentions. Not sure if he really made that statement or if he is serious calling that possible fight, because if he really aiming for that kind of fight then he needs to return to the ring and fight first with those fighters who are currently in the line for challenging the current title holder.

Here is the VIDEO that I am talking about and the caption indicates it all, it was a past video and it was reported here aswell in the Philippines, well, maybe Manny Pacquaio could be on an advantage over Ugas if he hasn't that much problem, but again that punch of Ugas really damaging Manny that led to this I think his body can not take anymore beating because of his age,

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Claressa Shields VS Savannah Marshall Claressa Shields has come a long way in getting that obstacle to move out of her and defeating Savannah Marshall was one of them because she was the only one that led a loss during their amateur fight on some Olympics game that I can't remember, and this win over Savannah Marshall is another big triumphant for her, and now having 13 wins and 0 losses I think that is a great record to now move on a further division, and I think it is really good enough,

Same here, though there are excuses in Pacquiao's camp after losing against Ugas, I think Pacquiao's performance isn't as good as before.  His winnings against heavier boxers is due to the advantage of catch-weight since heavier boxer has to drain more weight making them underperform due to overtraining.

I do not think Manny will win this time.  The challenge looks interesting but I believe Manny will lose this one too.  His performance against Ugas shows it all.


He failed to adjust that's it.  And Ugas defensive counter-punching stance taking advantage of having a longer reach proves that it is effective against Manny since Manny doesn't move well in that fight.  Besides, it is also possible that Manny's camp underestimated Ugas because Ugas wasn't that popular and explosive.

One thing is certain, when a boxer thinks he can do things but his body can follow through, it is a sign of aging.  Manny knows it reason why he retired.

I don't know that, didn't see a video that he was struggling after the fight. Manny had some excuse after the fight, it was the leg cramp that causes him not able to use his speed, so I'm thinking, what if he has no problem in that fight, will Ugas can still hit him?

Hehehe, we don't know where that article steam from, Manny Pacquiao already hang up his gloves although there is speculation that he is coming back, it will be just on exhibition fights.

And you have to ask, if Pacman can make the same money as fighting exhibitions matches as compare to professional fight, then logic says he should stick to the latter. Because he won't be damage, as we all know that throughout his career he has been in great wars with Mexican fighters. And maybe he will have a effect on him, who knows when he age. So it's better for him to have this exhibition fights instead of going back to the 147 lbs wherein the current champions are going to be too big for him.

I haven't seen or heard any article news about something like that but maybe it was just misguiding news about Pacquiao and now he is having his exhibition fight against a Korean Youtuber DK Yoo, Manny Pacquiao, and Errol Spence might have an unfinished fight that was canceled because of Spence having trouble with his medical condition and he had a retinal displacement that could make him blind when he continued to fight, so he canceled the fight for his future benefit,


I agree, and if he retires I think he just needs to continue being retired and enjoy that retirement just like Mayweather did, he is not enjoying most of his exhibition matches even though many know that he would likely leave the stage unscathed and have a huge amount of money and this is just pure entertainment and not for competition, although his last fight was really a great fight he surely switched into a killer intent Mayweather just pull off that knockout win, against Mikuru Asakura,

I also think it is suicide if he returned again in the world of boxing, he should continue on his path to exhibition matched and pick a fight he can likely enjoy,

Topic seems to be Manny Pacquiao.  , and I thought that he will have a exhibition match with a South Korean Youtuber this December?

And he has been seen in Japan watching Floyd exhibition match as well.

Now there is news of him making a comeback and wanting to fight the winner of the Crawford vs. Spence fight? I think something is not right and possible that the article is for click bait only.

I would stir away from Ugas, if I'm Manny and if he wanted to make a comeback. Just choose someone in the 147 lbs that he can likely beat or will take a dive just to fight money and the money that he is going to earn.

But for a Ugas or Spence/Crawford fight, it will be a suicide for him to have his comeback fight. Those 3 boxers will be too big and powerful for Manny at this point.

Did Pacquiao actually said that? Or is it just a writer who made up some stories to get an attention? Because I really don't think Manny Pacquiao is that dumb to consider fighting an undisputed boxer in what was toutred as the most challenging division. Crawford is already hard to defeat and the same goes for Spence. Let's not forget that Ugas defeated Pacquiao while Spence haven't had the hard time.

Well, it is Mayweather's style and he is more in debt to that kind of Boxing style it is like his signature move, and now I think Fans misunderstand his way of boxing so much that they are bored while watching him, this really happens when people aren't familiar with the way he box, but I think they surely do now, and he cleverly executed it in his own style,

Boxer's return indicated that they needed income, even though Ricky Hatton and Marco Antonio Barrera both are not in their shape anymore I think they pretty much need some salary so I think they will get this on, and knowing it is just an exhibition match they are not much risk seeing how Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao are doing it then why couldn't they,


I think he can not do it, seeing him against Ugas, was pretty much devastating seeing him unable to open his eyes and his wife needing to spoon-feed him because he can not see in both of his eyes, I think this is an indicator that he can not withstand a strong punch from Ugas, and this is the 1st time that I have seen him in this state, He already retired maybe if that boxer were retired I think he can go with an exhibition match, but for now, it is highly unlikely for him to return to the boxing ring,

I believe he can match either Spence of Crawford with proper training, but he can start with a rematch against Ugas, I'm pretty sure Ugas would not say no because when he was asked after the fight against Pacman, he was open for a rematch, so Pacman could start on that if he is planning to go off of retirement.

He didn't even beat Yordenis Ugas on the last year, how can he just blatantly challenging the best boxer at welterweight division? it sound like he's just joking. I don't see any chance if Pacquiao can beat either Spence or Crawford, moreover Pacquiao has a high chance to get KO'ed by them lol.

At least he need a rematch against Ugas and prove if he's have a power to fight against Spence or Crawford, after that there's will be a lot hype if Pacquiao could beat them.