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Quote from: NavI_027 on September 30, 2019, 02:55:39 AM

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If Manny will beat Spence, I think Manny should retire with a win, unless he wants to sacrifice his body and continue to make money.
What he showed against Thurman when he won was a lot of heart from him, but he slowed down a bit and if he admit that Thurman is a heavy hitter and for short spence is also a heavy hitter.

I heard it from him, he admit that Thurman's punches are not a joke. It really hurts him. I think Pacman is aware of their capacities especially knowing the fact that they're young with killer records. But despite of the risk, Manny will surely face it. There are already so many people including his own family adviced him to retire couple of times ago but here we are — Still witnessing how he destroy the careers of these rising superstars Grin

. We are not sure in this matter only Pacman himself can put a period in his career.

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I saw on Youtube that they have an argument in their post-fight conference they are arguing on who between them pull the most people in the fight, these two are good friends outside the ring I hope they can patch everything, the match is over, although they are trying to build up a rematch, but that would come after the Pacquiao match.

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Yeah Pacquiao did win against Thurman but in a split decision. We have seen a slower Manny when he fight Thurman. I think if Manny would fight Spence, it would be 2 or 3 years from now that's why I said he can't fight toe to toe with young fighter during that time. I mean as time goes by, any boxers will have their edge dull and that's reality man.

It was a convincing win by Manny and people even think it's a unanimous decision but the one coach sees Thurman is a winner.
If this two (spence and Manny) will fight, it should happen soon and maybe this year or early next year if that is possible.
We would love to see a good fight of Manny before he retires and I'm afraid spence will be undefeated no more if he will face Pacman in the ring.

If it would happen next year then it would be a good fight bt if it happens later, maybe Pacquiao would be at a disadvantage. For me, a Spence vs Pacquiao should happen the soonest possible but with the current situation, I think this fight will never happen since Manny should retire after his fight next year to preserve his health.

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Quote from: Murat on September 30, 2019, 03:53:32 AM

both carried with punching and creating distance but Porter was unable to continue this spirit until the end of the match.

This clearly shows that Spence is the better fighter but Spence admit that it was one of his toughest fight in his career.
What can you expect man,, this is champion vs champion and therefore it's expected that they will deliver a good fight.

I like what Spence did that he played on the game of Porter but despite of that, he still win.
I can say he is not afraid of risking is undefeated record as he fought toe to toe against a strong boxer of porter.

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Wow, an amazing fight between these two heavyweights, though Spence won this game, it was one of the toughest game ever. In round 1, porter was a little aggressive and did some effort inside, that he loves to do always, but Spence has shown his class in the third round and got back several counters and it was very effective for him and landed a good fight inside and midway the round, Spense also manages to create some distance in the 5th round and porter still trying to push Spense like a bull-rushing the matador. after the six-round, both carried with punching and creating distance but Porter was unable to continue this spirit until the end of the match.

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Quote from: Viscore on September 29, 2019, 10:18:58 PM

That's not gonna be an exciting fight, Danny is not an undefeated and I think Spence can also handle him.

Yeah, I agree somehow by just scrutinizing the logic. If Porter beat Garcia before and Spence Jr. beat Porter, therefore, Spence Jr. can beat Garcia. I know it sounds unair but I believe it make sense, isn't it? Grin

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Quote from: Viscore on September 29, 2019, 10:18:58 PM

I think Manny would be a great match for him, this oldies is still unstoppable now, and we've seen in the interview that he is calling for Manny as he know its a big fight and it can attract a lot of money, I hope Manny will answer that call.

We all know Pacman's attitude, he is not choosy to his opponents. He fear no one (in a humble manner of course) and always accept what is being offered. Let's hope this match would happen soon, and if Manny able to tarnish his record then I can't think of another next strong contender aside from Crawford.

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Spence promised a knockout and didn't deliver. He's not the champion he thinks he is.

Later at the end of the post-fight press conference Spence was then heard saying he will beat Thurman, Garcia etc, and after the fight he dared to drop Pacquaios name lol.

Thurman beat Porter by UD, and Pacquiao beat Thurman, Spence gets whooped by the Pacman.

We would never know if Pacquiao can still fight toe to toe with younger boxers. I think Manny should hang his gloves. Anyways, I want to see how he would fight against Thurman. This would be an interesting fight since they are both young and talented boxers.

Where have you been all this time, Pacquiao just dominated Thurman, and the boxing world is all praises for Pacquiao for showing that he is more younger than Thurman, what made you think that Pacquiao cannot beat Spence, there we go again doubters, Pacquiao always makes this doubters eat their words.

Another question is - would Pacquiao's camp be willing to fight with Spence Jr, if in case he will go inside the ring one last time? What would be at stake on this fight? Is it important for him to fight with Spence? Another boxer trying to get a good paycheck by asking Pacquiao's fist.

Pacman will only be fighting someone who can give him more money. Who else would that be except Floyd Mayweather? Terrence Crawford, Errol Spence? I reckon they would be a big risk. Promoters should pay Pacman more if they want him to fight either of them.

In any case, I thought Shawn Porter was winning the fight. He was more aggressive and appeared more wanting to win it.

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Quote from: NavI_027 on September 29, 2019, 09:58:38 PM

I would love too but I'm sorry to burst your bubble, rumors are spreading that his next fight would probably be Danny Garcia.

That's not gonna be an exciting fight, Danny is not an undefeated and I think Spence can also handle him.
I think Manny would be a great match for him, this oldies is still unstoppable now, and we've seen in the interview that he is calling for Manny as he know its a big fight and it can attract a lot of money, I hope Manny will answer that call.

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Quote from: btc_angela on September 29, 2019, 05:57:52 AM

@NavI_027 - even in the early rounds he was too sloppy with his punches and Spence capitalising on it.

Indeed but his punches are still on point during the first half tho. Porter landed few punches which made Spence Jr. a little bit wobbly. Props to Spence Jr.'s defense, he just evade as much as he can do and wait for the right timing to punch compare to Porter that fight like a raging bull Grin

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Quote from: btc_angela on September 29, 2019, 05:57:52 AM

So let's see Spence vs Pacquaio for all the glory and see who is the best welterweight.

I would love too but I'm sorry to burst your bubble, rumors are spreading that his next fight would probably be Danny Garcia.

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Quote from: Ranly123 on September 29, 2019, 07:10:01 PM

Yeah Pacquiao did win against Thurman but in a split decision. We have seen a slower Manny when he fight Thurman. I think if Manny would fight Spence, it would be 2 or 3 years from now that's why I said he can't fight toe to toe with young fighter during that time. I mean as time goes by, any boxers will have their edge dull and that's reality man.

It was a convincing win by Manny and people even think it's a unanimous decision but the one coach sees Thurman is a winner.
If this two (spence and Manny) will fight, it should happen soon and maybe this year or early next year if that is possible.
We would love to see a good fight of Manny before he retires and I'm afraid spence will be undefeated no more if he will face Pacman in the ring.

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Quote from: aioc on September 29, 2019, 10:39:15 AM

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Quote from: DarkDays on September 29, 2019, 08:26:23 AM

Spence promised a knockout and didn't deliver. He's not the champion he thinks he is.

Later at the end of the post-fight press conference Spence was then heard saying he will beat Thurman, Garcia etc, and after the fight he dared to drop Pacquaios name lol.

Thurman beat Porter by UD, and Pacquiao beat Thurman, Spence gets whooped by the Pacman.

We would never know if Pacquiao can still fight toe to toe with younger boxers. I think Manny should hang his gloves. Anyways, I want to see how he would fight against Thurman. This would be an interesting fight since they are both young and talented boxers.

Where have you been all this time, Pacquiao just dominated Thurman, and the boxing world is all praises for Pacquiao for showing that he is more younger than Thurman, what made you think that Pacquiao cannot beat Spence, there we go again doubters, Pacquiao always makes this doubters eat their words.

Yeah Pacquiao did win against Thurman but in a split decision. We have seen a slower Manny when he fight Thurman. I think if Manny would fight Spence, it would be 2 or 3 years from now that's why I said he can't fight toe to toe with young fighter during that time. I mean as time goes by, any boxers will have their edge dull and that's reality man.

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Quote from: aioc on September 29, 2019, 10:39:15 AM

Quote from: Ranly123 on September 29, 2019, 10:13:32 AM

Quote from: DarkDays on September 29, 2019, 08:26:23 AM

Spence promised a knockout and didn't deliver. He's not the champion he thinks he is.

Later at the end of the post-fight press conference Spence was then heard saying he will beat Thurman, Garcia etc, and after the fight he dared to drop Pacquaios name lol.

Thurman beat Porter by UD, and Pacquiao beat Thurman, Spence gets whooped by the Pacman.

We would never know if Pacquiao can still fight toe to toe with younger boxers. I think Manny should hang his gloves. Anyways, I want to see how he would fight against Thurman. This would be an interesting fight since they are both young and talented boxers.

Where have you been all this time, Pacquiao just dominated Thurman, and the boxing world is all praises for Pacquiao for showing that he is more younger than Thurman, what made you think that Pacquiao cannot beat Spence, there we go again doubters, Pacquiao always makes this doubters eat their words.

Another question is - would Pacquiao's camp be willing to fight with Spence Jr, if in case he will go inside the ring one last time? What would be at stake on this fight? Is it important for him to fight with Spence? Another boxer trying to get a good paycheck by asking Pacquiao's fist.

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Quote from: aioc on September 29, 2019, 10:39:15 AM

Quote from: Ranly123 on September 29, 2019, 10:13:32 AM

Quote from: DarkDays on September 29, 2019, 08:26:23 AM

Spence promised a knockout and didn't deliver. He's not the champion he thinks he is.

Later at the end of the post-fight press conference Spence was then heard saying he will beat Thurman, Garcia etc, and after the fight he dared to drop Pacquaios name lol.

Thurman beat Porter by UD, and Pacquiao beat Thurman, Spence gets whooped by the Pacman.

We would never know if Pacquiao can still fight toe to toe with younger boxers. I think Manny should hang his gloves. Anyways, I want to see how he would fight against Thurman. This would be an interesting fight since they are both young and talented boxers.

Where have you been all this time, Pacquiao just dominated Thurman, and the boxing world is all praises for Pacquiao for showing that he is more younger than Thurman, what made you think that Pacquiao cannot beat Spence, there we go again doubters, Pacquiao always makes this doubters eat their words.

It doesn't even worth talking about it, the fight will never take place, Manny is above that, he can't spend his time and his health for every jackass, he would fight every week otherwise...

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Quote from: Ranly123 on September 29, 2019, 10:13:32 AM

Quote from: DarkDays on September 29, 2019, 08:26:23 AM

Spence promised a knockout and didn't deliver. He's not the champion he thinks he is.

Later at the end of the post-fight press conference Spence was then heard saying he will beat Thurman, Garcia etc, and after the fight he dared to drop Pacquaios name lol.

Thurman beat Porter by UD, and Pacquiao beat Thurman, Spence gets whooped by the Pacman.

We would never know if Pacquiao can still fight toe to toe with younger boxers. I think Manny should hang his gloves. Anyways, I want to see how he would fight against Thurman. This would be an interesting fight since they are both young and talented boxers.

Where have you been all this time, Pacquiao just dominated Thurman, and the boxing world is all praises for Pacquiao for showing that he is more younger than Thurman, what made you think that Pacquiao cannot beat Spence, there we go again doubters, Pacquiao always makes this doubters eat their words.

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Quote from: btc_angela on September 29, 2019, 05:57:52 AM

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It was really a good fight, might be fight of the year candidate, Porter gave everything he got, I would have to agree the he was the aggressor in the fight and bringing it to Spence all the time. Unfortunately, he was caught and get knock down, but the guy has a solid chin and still continue. But he as not that accurate though, final score 116-111 for Spence, 115-112 for Porter, and 116-111 for Spence.

Strange that one judge give it to Porter. He was aggressive but missing a lot, at least that's the way I saw the fight, and it should be UD for Spence.

@NavI_027 - even in the early rounds he was too sloppy with his punches and Spence capitalising on it.

So let's see Spence vs Pacquaio for all the glory and see who is the best welterweight.

This next fight will be a deciding factor to glorifies who would be the best from the said division. Pacquiao enlighten the community that age is not an issue when you are determine to show your skills and capabilities. Spence after this win adds more confidence from his system of fighting, he able to win this fight with that undeniable knock down, a turning factors for grabbing the glory.

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Quote from: DarkDays on September 29, 2019, 08:26:23 AM

Spence promised a knockout and didn't deliver. He's not the champion he thinks he is.

Later at the end of the post-fight press conference Spence was then heard saying he will beat Thurman, Garcia etc, and after the fight he dared to drop Pacquaios name lol.

Thurman beat Porter by UD, and Pacquiao beat Thurman, Spence gets whooped by the Pacman.

We would never know if Pacquiao can still fight toe to toe with younger boxers. I think Manny should hang his gloves. Anyways, I want to see how he would fight against Thurman. This would be an interesting fight since they are both young and talented boxers.

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Quote from: Betwrong on September 29, 2019, 09:38:16 AM

But I must say that I was wrong betting on Shawn Porter. As it happens most of the time, most bettors appeared to be right about the outcome of the battle. I just thought the odds were wrong, Spence wasn't 5 times more likely to win. But he won and that's what counts.

You did exactly what you were supposed to do as a bettor, which is exploit the disparity between the bookmakers odds and the true odds of an outcome. You knew that Porter had more than a 20% chance of winning, and were prepared to get 5x your money for your risk. Keep doing this with future fights and you will eventually come out on top, it's just a matter of time.

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With those odds I would bet on Shawn Porter. Maybe he looks weaker than his opponent right now, but, after all, he won 30 out of 33 fights, and 17 of them by KO. Also Porter is 8 cm shorter than Spence, which is frequently an advantage in boxing.

Overall I would agree with the comment I saw on a site where the odds where discussed:

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"I have Spence as a favorite but not -1000 favorite."

You can bet on porter to win by KO at 14.00 and porter by decision at 10, you will still get a better odds compared to 6.00 for porter to win the match.
I think as game is approaching, slowly the odds of Porter are decreasing, this means people are betting on him?

How about draw @25. does it stands a chance also?

It did stand a chance. Spence won on a split decision, so it was very close to draw.

But I must say that I was wrong betting on Shawn Porter. As it happens most of the time, most bettors appeared to be right about the outcome of the battle. I just thought the odds were wrong, Spence wasn't 5 times more likely to win. But he won and that's what counts.

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Quote from: Ranly123 on September 29, 2019, 07:55:33 AM

If it is not because of a knockdown on the 11th round, I think the match would have been a draw. Luckily Spence draw knockdown on Porter that changes the score of the match but I wonder why one of the judge favor Porter which makes it a split decision win for Spence.

Spence promised a knockout and didn't deliver. He's not the champion he thinks he is.

Later at the end of the post-fight press conference Spence was then heard saying he will beat Thurman, Garcia etc, and after the fight he dared to drop Pacquaios name lol.

Thurman beat Porter by UD, and Pacquiao beat Thurman, Spence gets whooped by the Pacman.

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If it is not because of a knockdown on the 11th round, I think the match would have been a draw. Luckily Spence draw knockdown on Porter that changes the score of the match but I wonder why one of the judge favor Porter which makes it a split decision win for Spence.

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