[Boxing] Stephen Fulton vs. Naoya Inoue | WBC & WBO 122 lbs bout | July 25 - page 13.

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Quote from: Kasabus on June 28, 2023, 01:50:53 PM

There will be a time in the future for sure that he will have to fight in other countries like in US or somewhere in Europe, or even in the Middle East if Inoue will face an opponent that have a much bigger name than him. But not now because the organizer and promoter is more inclined to make the fight happen in Japan as it was already evident that they can generate big profits in that certain country and considering that Inoue won this fight and will take the undisputed fight, I'm also confident that they will contest the fight in Japan again instead of the Philippines where Marlon Tapales came from.

Actually, even if Inoue will face a much more popular or so-called "big name" opponent compare to him, it's not the basis of where the fight will take place. Since boxing is associated with business, big matches should only take place at proven associated with a big market.

If let's say Marlon Tapales will have a shot at a unification fight against Naoya Inoue, just in case the Japanese monster won this match against Fulton, don't expect that the Philippines might be chosen as one of the venues even for consideration.

And besides, I see that guest boxers are even more determined to pulverize the host in front of its home supporters.

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Donaire was a great example of a true champion, as he was well aware that Inoue could beat him again, and yet he still risked a unification match to test himself against Inoue once more.

Inoue is also a great example as he always seeks to fight the best opponents, which is why he became an undisputed champion in the bantamweight division. After winning, he wasted no time in moving up for the super bantamweight title match. If he succeeds again, it would be a tremendous accomplishment, and I am certain he will continue pushing his limits.

He had to climb in ranks though, as he started is fights all in Japan, but his handlers knows his true potential and they have been given the chance to fight in the US and be exposed from boxing fans because of Bob Arum.

So we might hate Bob Arum and Top Rank, but surely they know how to promote a fighter like Manny Pacquiao. And after winning the WBSS tournament, Inoue become a household name in the US and then he started his path to defeat all great fighters unifying all the belts.

Now, his journey continues as he might want to do it at 122 lbs.

There will be a time in the future for sure that he will have to fight in other countries like in US or somewhere in Europe, or even in the Middle East if Inoue will face an opponent that have a much bigger name than him. But not now because the organizer and promoter is more inclined to make the fight happen in Japan as it was already evident that they can generate big profits in that certain country and considering that Inoue won this fight and will take the undisputed fight, I'm also confident that they will contest the fight in Japan again instead of the Philippines where Marlon Tapales came from.

It's business not just a sport, so we can assume that if ever a unification will take place,

The chance that the fight will happen again in Japan is possible, if this upcoming fight will generate a huge amount of profits
then expect that promoters will take the same path, in terms of possible revenue for the Pinoy champ, An offer will be good
since he will be going to face or a possibility to face Inoue, a great paycheck is waiting for him.

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Donaire was a great example of a true champion, as he was well aware that Inoue could beat him again, and yet he still risked a unification match to test himself against Inoue once more.

Inoue is also a great example as he always seeks to fight the best opponents, which is why he became an undisputed champion in the bantamweight division. After winning, he wasted no time in moving up for the super bantamweight title match. If he succeeds again, it would be a tremendous accomplishment, and I am certain he will continue pushing his limits.

The reason why he was being compared to Pacquiao as he's not afraid of taking fights that might strip his belt, I mean,
the challenge that he's facing attribute to his greatness.

Like what you mentioned, after unifying all the belts in the bantamweight division, he's now here, challenging the current
Champ and will try to take the belt on Fulton's name. It will be a great challenge as fans will expect him to win.

Conclusion will be dictated after the fight, if who between Inoue and Fulton will hold the belt.

He won't reach the success of Pacquiao, though, because becoming an 8th division world champion is hard to surpass. However, with the current journey he is undertaking, he can surely achieve more success. He continues to move up with his power and speed, enabling him to dominate even in higher weight divisions. Additionally, Inoue has a strong chin, as he was hit cleanly by Donaire multiple times but still managed to stay up.

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Donaire was a great example of a true champion, as he was well aware that Inoue could beat him again, and yet he still risked a unification match to test himself against Inoue once more.

Inoue is also a great example as he always seeks to fight the best opponents, which is why he became an undisputed champion in the bantamweight division. After winning, he wasted no time in moving up for the super bantamweight title match. If he succeeds again, it would be a tremendous accomplishment, and I am certain he will continue pushing his limits.

He had to climb in ranks though, as he started is fights all in Japan, but his handlers knows his true potential and they have been given the chance to fight in the US and be exposed from boxing fans because of Bob Arum.

So we might hate Bob Arum and Top Rank, but surely they know how to promote a fighter like Manny Pacquiao. And after winning the WBSS tournament, Inoue become a household name in the US and then he started his path to defeat all great fighters unifying all the belts.

Now, his journey continues as he might want to do it at 122 lbs.

There will be a time in the future for sure that he will have to fight in other countries like in US or somewhere in Europe, or even in the Middle East if Inoue will face an opponent that have a much bigger name than him. But not now because the organizer and promoter is more inclined to make the fight happen in Japan as it was already evident that they can generate big profits in that certain country and considering that Inoue won this fight and will take the undisputed fight, I'm also confident that they will contest the fight in Japan again instead of the Philippines where Marlon Tapales came from.

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Quote from: Kelvinid on June 28, 2023, 04:16:16 AM

Donaire was a great example of a true champion, as he was well aware that Inoue could beat him again, and yet he still risked a unification match to test himself against Inoue once more.

Inoue is also a great example as he always seeks to fight the best opponents, which is why he became an undisputed champion in the bantamweight division. After winning, he wasted no time in moving up for the super bantamweight title match. If he succeeds again, it would be a tremendous accomplishment, and I am certain he will continue pushing his limits.

The reason why he was being compared to Pacquiao as he's not afraid of taking fights that might strip his belt, I mean,
the challenge that he's facing attribute to his greatness.

Like what you mentioned, after unifying all the belts in the bantamweight division, he's now here, challenging the current
Champ and will try to take the belt on Fulton's name. It will be a great challenge as fans will expect him to win.

Conclusion will be dictated after the fight, if who between Inoue and Fulton will hold the belt.

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Quote from: cryptomaniac_xxx on June 28, 2023, 07:20:55 AM

Now, his journey continues as he might want to do it at 122 lbs.

The outcome of this fight is crucial as it will determine the continuation of his journey. The fact that Inoue is still listed as the favorite indicates that he is comfortable in his current weight class and has been dominant. Personally, I believe he will win as Fulton is not a significant threat to him, even though the latter is the champion.

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Quote from: Kelvinid on June 28, 2023, 04:16:16 AM

Donaire was a great example of a true champion, as he was well aware that Inoue could beat him again, and yet he still risked a unification match to test himself against Inoue once more.

Inoue is also a great example as he always seeks to fight the best opponents, which is why he became an undisputed champion in the bantamweight division. After winning, he wasted no time in moving up for the super bantamweight title match. If he succeeds again, it would be a tremendous accomplishment, and I am certain he will continue pushing his limits.

He had to climb in ranks though, as he started is fights all in Japan, but his handlers knows his true potential and they have been given the chance to fight in the US and be exposed from boxing fans because of Bob Arum.

So we might hate Bob Arum and Top Rank, but surely they know how to promote a fighter like Manny Pacquiao. And after winning the WBSS tournament, Inoue become a household name in the US and then he started his path to defeat all great fighters unifying all the belts.

Now, his journey continues as he might want to do it at 122 lbs.

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Quote from: Kelvinid on June 28, 2023, 04:16:16 AM

Donaire was a great example of a true champion, as he was well aware that Inoue could beat him again, and yet he still risked a unification match to test himself against Inoue once more.

Inoue is also a great example as he always seeks to fight the best opponents, which is why he became an undisputed champion in the bantamweight division. After winning, he wasted no time in moving up for the super bantamweight title match. If he succeeds again, it would be a tremendous accomplishment, and I am certain he will continue pushing his limits.

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on June 27, 2023, 11:59:27 PM

He has no choice though but to get to Donaire. Same with Donaire, he was tearing the division and fighting young boxers and getting the belt. But in the end they have crossed path and as that Donaire was at a disadvantage because he lost his belt again. Nevertheless, he will have another chance to win it because he will be fighting for the belt, while Inoue will do it but in different weight class as he will challenge Fulton for his 2 belt.

What we witnessed in the fight was a real competition, the fight between the best versus the best. Hopefully, we will also see the same in a different division, where champions don't evade fights against opponents they think could defeat them just to maintain their undefeated record.

Donaire was a great example of a true champion, as he was well aware that Inoue could beat him again, and yet he still risked a unification match to test himself against Inoue once more.

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One disadvantage though for Inoue is that this is a new weight class for him, and he didn't take a tune up fight, but instead he directly goes to the champion in Stephen Fulton. Yes we have seen how destructive he is in the bantamweight, but as the saying goes, maybe he swallow more than he can chew here in facing a American boxer in Fulton.

Though it could be considered a disadvantage, I see it only as a slight one. Inoue is already a destructive fighter, and he may not need to add a significant amount of weight for this new weight class. However, let's see if he can truly live up to the expectations of many, considering that Inoue is currently in his prime.

Quote from: Yaunfitda on June 27, 2023, 05:40:56 AM

I wouldn't say that Donaire is lucky to have a rematch with Inoue, Nonito has the WBC belt that time and Inoue wanted to unify. So Donaire earn that rematch, it's not that he has been given that because of his stature. On the contrary, if you think about who is lucky, it is Inoue here because he bypass everyone in the rankings to face the champion as he move up in weight.

Or perhaps he was fortunate because he knew he could defeat Donaire, making it another easy path to claim a belt.

Yeah, I do agree, but we will have to see how he will do, we've seen great boxers moving up in weight and becoming so accustomed with the new weight like Manny Pacquiao.

He has no choice though but to get to Donaire. Same with Donaire, he was tearing the division and fighting young boxers and getting the belt. But in the end they have crossed path and as that Donaire was at a disadvantage because he lost his belt again. Nevertheless, he will have another chance to win it because he will be fighting for the belt, while Inoue will do it but in different weight class as he will challenge Fulton for his 2 belt.

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Or perhaps he was fortunate because he knew he could defeat Donaire, making it another easy path to claim a belt.

His journey was relatively smooth, going from unification to the undisputed fight. If only Casimero hadn't caused complications, we could have witnessed an exciting undisputed match. However, we can't change the past, and Inoue truly deserved that significant win and success.

Now, he is striving for another triumph, and surprisingly, many people didn't anticipate it to be a challenging task for him to defeat the champion. Perhaps this is due to his overwhelming dominance in previous fights.

Yes, it was a fight that we have been robbed in the bantamweight division, only if Casimero does't have weight issues.

And I think that the division is really strong there, but it was that Inoue was really too good at 118 division and the only boxer that might have a good chance him is Donaire but he just blasted him in 2 rounds in their rematch.

It's not an easy path for him, he just look as if the fight is very easy because he has superior skills.

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Quote from: Kelvinid on June 27, 2023, 06:32:31 AM

Or perhaps he was fortunate because he knew he could defeat Donaire, making it another easy path to claim a belt.

His journey was relatively smooth, going from unification to the undisputed fight. If only Casimero hadn't caused complications, we could have witnessed an exciting undisputed match. However, we can't change the past, and Inoue truly deserved that significant win and success.

Now, he is striving for another triumph, and surprisingly, many people didn't anticipate it to be a challenging task for him to defeat the champion. Perhaps this is due to his overwhelming dominance in previous fights.

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on June 27, 2023, 05:40:56 AM

One disadvantage though for Inoue is that this is a new weight class for him, and he didn't take a tune up fight, but instead he directly goes to the champion in Stephen Fulton. Yes we have seen how destructive he is in the bantamweight, but as the saying goes, maybe he swallow more than he can chew here in facing a American boxer in Fulton.

Though it could be considered a disadvantage, I see it only as a slight one. Inoue is already a destructive fighter, and he may not need to add a significant amount of weight for this new weight class. However, let's see if he can truly live up to the expectations of many, considering that Inoue is currently in his prime.

Quote from: Yaunfitda on June 27, 2023, 05:40:56 AM

I wouldn't say that Donaire is lucky to have a rematch with Inoue, Nonito has the WBC belt that time and Inoue wanted to unify. So Donaire earn that rematch, it's not that he has been given that because of his stature. On the contrary, if you think about who is lucky, it is Inoue here because he bypass everyone in the rankings to face the champion as he move up in weight.

Or perhaps he was fortunate because he knew he could defeat Donaire, making it another easy path to claim a belt.

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That advantage is something that Inoue will use to manifest a win,

Fighting in front of your home crowd and fulfilling what the fans are aiming at why they are watching the fight, it's something
that he will bring to entertain and delight everyone, a very good inspiration to bring all the best and try achieving to win another
title in a different division. All will be depends on how both fighters will showcase their skills and talents.

It will be hard for Fulton to win this fight because Inoue has all the advantage, and their record won't matter because when he feels Inoue's punch, it will be the end for him when he feels it. Because that's how it ends up for his last opponents. They underestimated him and were surprised with a punch that shook them until they were knocked out. Donaire was lucky to have a second match, but as we witnessed, Inoue has already bypassed his old self and improved a lot, and what more if he is going to fight Fulton next month?

One disadvantage though for Inoue is that this is a new weight class for him, and he didn't take a tune up fight, but instead he directly goes to the champion in Stephen Fulton. Yes we have seen how destructive he is in the bantamweight, but as the saying goes, maybe he swallow more than he can chew here in facing a American boxer in Fulton.

I wouldn't say that Donaire is lucky to have a rematch with Inoue, Nonito has the WBC belt that time and Inoue wanted to unify. So Donaire earn that rematch, it's not that he has been given that because of his stature. On the contrary, if you think about who is lucky, it is Inoue here because he bypass everyone in the rankings to face the champion as he move up in weight.

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Quote from: Pamadar on June 26, 2023, 03:33:01 AM

That advantage is something that Inoue will use to manifest a win,

Fighting in front of your home crowd and fulfilling what the fans are aiming at why they are watching the fight, it's something
that he will bring to entertain and delight everyone, a very good inspiration to bring all the best and try achieving to win another
title in a different division. All will be depends on how both fighters will showcase their skills and talents.

It will be hard for Fulton to win this fight because Inoue has all the advantage, and their record won't matter because when he feels Inoue's punch, it will be the end for him when he feels it. Because that's how it ends up for his last opponents. They underestimated him and were surprised with a punch that shook them until they were knocked out. Donaire was lucky to have a second match, but as we witnessed, Inoue has already bypassed his old self and improved a lot, and what more if he is going to fight Fulton next month?

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And following that argument, I also believe that the challenge or pressure is on the side of Fulton
he's the current champ and he also flying to Inoue's homeland, another factor that will bring the
aggressiveness on Inoue's side.

I agree. He will be competing in Japan, which is considered a tough venue to win in. Therefore, he should engage in a toe-to-toe battle with Inoue and aim for a knockout if he wants to ensure victory. Simply running and scoring points wouldn't work against Inoue, as the latter is also quick and possesses jabs that could seriously harm his opponent.

Inoue seeks action, so to prevent this fight from becoming boring, Fulton needs to employ a different style—one that would intimidate Inoue and prevent him from being the aggressive attacker.

The homeland of a fighter will have the momentum and help the countrymen win against their opponent in short You are right that mate Homeland is an advantage for inoue as we all know that people around that country will give their full support to their fighter which is inoue. And for the champ Fulton for sure he will feel a nervous because only few people will support him in the venue.

It is a challenge for Fulton to fight in foreign country where his opponent came from. But I don't think it can discourage him to do his best regardless of how many fans are cheering for him to win this fight. On the other side, it's an advantage for Inoue to fight in his home country but as others have said already, all his wins are convincing and not biased, that's how powerful Inoue is. So Fulton needs to prepare himself to have an edge.

That advantage is something that Inoue will use to manifest a win,

Fighting in front of your home crowd and fulfilling what the fans are aiming at why they are watching the fight, it's something
that he will bring to entertain and delight everyone, a very good inspiration to bring all the best and try achieving to win another
title in a different division. All will be depends on how both fighters will showcase their skills and talents.

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And following that argument, I also believe that the challenge or pressure is on the side of Fulton
he's the current champ and he also flying to Inoue's homeland, another factor that will bring the
aggressiveness on Inoue's side.

I agree. He will be competing in Japan, which is considered a tough venue to win in. Therefore, he should engage in a toe-to-toe battle with Inoue and aim for a knockout if he wants to ensure victory. Simply running and scoring points wouldn't work against Inoue, as the latter is also quick and possesses jabs that could seriously harm his opponent.

Inoue seeks action, so to prevent this fight from becoming boring, Fulton needs to employ a different style—one that would intimidate Inoue and prevent him from being the aggressive attacker.

The homeland of a fighter will have the momentum and help the countrymen win against their opponent in short You are right that mate Homeland is an advantage for inoue as we all know that people around that country will give their full support to their fighter which is inoue. And for the champ Fulton for sure he will feel a nervous because only few people will support him in the venue.

It is a challenge for Fulton to fight in foreign country where his opponent came from. But I don't think it can discourage him to do his best regardless of how many fans are cheering for him to win this fight. On the other side, it's an advantage for Inoue to fight in his home country but as others have said already, all his wins are convincing and not biased, that's how powerful Inoue is. So Fulton needs to prepare himself to have an edge.

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For Inoue's situation, most of his fights happen in Japan because it is already proven that they can generate a much bigger profit if the fight will be happen there. That's why Fulton have to travel towards the challenger's land because of this reason.

That's how the business should be run – the more money they make, the better it is for Inoue, so he can enjoy his popularity. I don't have an idea about how much his previous fights made in terms of PPV, if there are any, but perhaps the competitive amount generated by fights held in the USA is the reason they chose to keep the fight in Japan.

Some say that judges may favor Inoue, but so far, I haven't seen a controversial fight of Inoue where the judges favored him despite his performance not being so convincing because most of his wins are pretty convincing and majority are in KO.

I'm not also sure whether they can generate more money in Japan or USA. I mean Fulton is from USA and Inoue is now a boxing superstar, that would be enough to attract more boxing fans to see the fight live. I'm pretty sure wherever they held this fight, whether in Japan or in the USA, they could still get enough income for this fight.
And I also gotta say, Majority of Inoue's fight ends in a very convincing victory - so I don't think there's going to be a biased judging happening in this fight.

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Quote from: Japinat on June 25, 2023, 03:13:48 PM

For Inoue's situation, most of his fights happen in Japan because it is already proven that they can generate a much bigger profit if the fight will be happen there. That's why Fulton have to travel towards the challenger's land because of this reason.

That's how the business should be run – the more money they make, the better it is for Inoue, so he can enjoy his popularity. I don't have an idea about how much his previous fights made in terms of PPV, if there are any, but perhaps the competitive amount generated by fights held in the USA is the reason they chose to keep the fight in Japan.

Some say that judges may favor Inoue, but so far, I haven't seen a controversial fight of Inoue where the judges favored him despite his performance not being so convincing because most of his wins are pretty convincing and majority are in KO.

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And following that argument, I also believe that the challenge or pressure is on the side of Fulton
he's the current champ and he also flying to Inoue's homeland, another factor that will bring the
aggressiveness on Inoue's side.

I agree. He will be competing in Japan, which is considered a tough venue to win in. Therefore, he should engage in a toe-to-toe battle with Inoue and aim for a knockout if he wants to ensure victory. Simply running and scoring points wouldn't work against Inoue, as the latter is also quick and possesses jabs that could seriously harm his opponent.

Inoue seeks action, so to prevent this fight from becoming boring, Fulton needs to employ a different style—one that would intimidate Inoue and prevent him from being the aggressive attacker.

The homeland of a fighter will have the momentum and help the countrymen win against their opponent in short You are right that mate Homeland is an advantage for inoue as we all know that people around that country will give their full support to their fighter which is inoue. And for the champ Fulton for sure he will feel a nervous because only few people will support him in the venue.

That's home court advantage but it's not a sure bet that it might help the boxer itself, unless he has the talent to win in his one home land like Inoue here. But if we talk about Casimero, he has travelled a lot even at the champions own country and he beat them, causing a riot inside and outside of the ring.

I'm not saying that the Japanese will do that, their culture is very different and they show so much respect to their opponents. But we can't discount the fact that maybe Fulton has prepared 110% in this fight and wanted to get a upset win in Inoue's home court.

Boxers should be preparing themselves for these kind of situations as it is not everytime they can have a fight inside their own country especially in the case of Casimero because having a fight inside the Philippines will not really attract that much audience compared if he will take his fight in the opponent's country or a much bigger country to increase the profits that they will gain.

For Inoue's situation, most of his fights happen in Japan because it is already proven that they can generate a much bigger profit if the fight will be happen there. That's why Fulton have to travel towards the challenger's land because of this reason.

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