[Boxing] Stephen Fulton vs. Naoya Inoue | WBC & WBO 122 lbs bout | July 25 - page 11.

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Quote from: Questat on July 06, 2023, 02:45:09 AM

Casimero's path to becoming a champion won't be easy since he has yet to have a championship fight. Currently, all eyes are focused on the upcoming Fulton vs. Inoue fight. By the time Casimero becomes a champion, Inoue might have already unified a belt and could potentially decide to move up in weight class once again.

If Inoue will gonna just beat his opponents easily just like he beats those guys in the lower weight division, then there's no point for him to stay in his weight class anymore rather he should continue to fully max his potential until he reached his limit and be one of the pound for pound legend in the boxing history. He is still young and surely he will gonna face some real contenders in every weight division and maybe Casimero will be one of them so that he won't be having any doubts about his skills that he was able to beat every opponent out there that are once great like him in his era.

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Naoya Inoue doesn't seem like the kind of guy that avoids difficult fights. Fulton is a slick American fighter with an undefeated record. In many people's eyes Fulton is the more difficult challenge when compared to Casimero. There was already an agreement for them to fight years ago but the pandemic derailed those plans. There is a long line of fighters waiting for an opportunity to face Inoue, since he is the biggest draw in these smaller weights. Casimero has to prove that he is better than the rest in order to be at the front of the line but the weight issues and promotional problems have set him back in his career.

Yeah, if Inoue is scared of big fight, he wouldn't accept his fight against Fulton in this new division for him. Casemiro need to become a champion, then it's 100% we will see he will fight with Inoue. If he's only an average boxer, it just depends on Inoue's promoter to accept the fight or not.

However it's already 19 days to go before this fight will happen, there's no odds change, so people are still definitely think Inoue will beat Fulton.

Casimero's path to becoming a champion won't be easy since he has yet to have a championship fight. Currently, all eyes are focused on the upcoming Fulton vs. Inoue fight. By the time Casimero becomes a champion, Inoue might have already unified a belt and could potentially decide to move up in weight class once again.

He's 34 years and maybe he might not get that fight since he's almost at the peak of his career or maybe even if we can see the fight between Inoue he became so slow because of age and Inoue will just finish him off easily. For now let see what will be the result of Fulton vs Inoue since this might be the deciding factor on what step Inoue should take. If Inoue will get this fight then provably he will not going to fight Casimero since he cannot earn anything from him.

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Quote from: Questat on July 06, 2023, 02:45:09 AM

By the time Casimero becomes a champion, Inoue might have already unified a belt and could potentially decide to move up in weight class once again.

I hope that doesn't happen, as it would make it evident that Inoue is deliberately avoiding Casimero. Moving up weight classes after just a few fights in the super bantamweight division is a risky decision. We can't be certain if Inoue will be able to retain his power and maintain his speed as he continues to move up.

As per https://www.sportingnews.com/us/boxing/news/stephen-fulton-vs-naoya-inoue-date-time-channel-odds-undercard-2023-boxing-fight/mwcibjot4vt4lblzgpwa9otj

Inoue is currently -250 to win, it's a huge favorite but I'm sure the value is still good as long as we put a good amount of money.

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Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on July 05, 2023, 11:38:07 PM

Naoya Inoue doesn't seem like the kind of guy that avoids difficult fights. Fulton is a slick American fighter with an undefeated record. In many people's eyes Fulton is the more difficult challenge when compared to Casimero. There was already an agreement for them to fight years ago but the pandemic derailed those plans. There is a long line of fighters waiting for an opportunity to face Inoue, since he is the biggest draw in these smaller weights. Casimero has to prove that he is better than the rest in order to be at the front of the line but the weight issues and promotional problems have set him back in his career.

Yeah, if Inoue is scared of big fight, he wouldn't accept his fight against Fulton in this new division for him. Casemiro need to become a champion, then it's 100% we will see he will fight with Inoue. If he's only an average boxer, it just depends on Inoue's promoter to accept the fight or not.

However it's already 19 days to go before this fight will happen, there's no odds change, so people are still definitely think Inoue will beat Fulton.

Casimero's path to becoming a champion won't be easy since he has yet to have a championship fight. Currently, all eyes are focused on the upcoming Fulton vs. Inoue fight. By the time Casimero becomes a champion, Inoue might have already unified a belt and could potentially decide to move up in weight class once again.

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Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on July 05, 2023, 11:38:07 PM

Naoya Inoue doesn't seem like the kind of guy that avoids difficult fights. Fulton is a slick American fighter with an undefeated record. In many people's eyes Fulton is the more difficult challenge when compared to Casimero. There was already an agreement for them to fight years ago but the pandemic derailed those plans. There is a long line of fighters waiting for an opportunity to face Inoue, since he is the biggest draw in these smaller weights. Casimero has to prove that he is better than the rest in order to be at the front of the line but the weight issues and promotional problems have set him back in his career.

Yeah, if Inoue is scared of big fight, he wouldn't accept his fight against Fulton in this new division for him. Casemiro need to become a champion, then it's 100% we will see he will fight with Inoue. If he's only an average boxer, it just depends on Inoue's promoter to accept the fight or not.

However it's already 19 days to go before this fight will happen, there's no odds change, so people are still definitely think Inoue will beat Fulton.

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Quote from: Natalim on July 05, 2023, 07:06:13 AM

f Inoue is also willing to fight Casimero, it would be intriguing, considering that Inoue had a chance to face Casimero in the bantamweight division but chose not to pursue it. Now that they will meet in the super bantamweight division, hopefully Casimero will become a mandatory challenger, leaving Inoue with no excuses to avoid fighting him.

Naoya Inoue doesn't seem like the kind of guy that avoids difficult fights. Fulton is a slick American fighter with an undefeated record. In many people's eyes Fulton is the more difficult challenge when compared to Casimero. There was already an agreement for them to fight years ago but the pandemic derailed those plans. There is a long line of fighters waiting for an opportunity to face Inoue, since he is the biggest draw in these smaller weights. Casimero has to prove that he is better than the rest in order to be at the front of the line but the weight issues and promotional problems have set him back in his career.

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Quote from: Pamadar on July 04, 2023, 04:14:22 PM

If in case he will win and Casimero will continue his winning stats, we might see them meeting in the same ring as long as Inoue
choose to stay in this current division.

f Inoue is also willing to fight Casimero, it would be intriguing, considering that Inoue had a chance to face Casimero in the bantamweight division but chose not to pursue it. Now that they will meet in the super bantamweight division, hopefully Casimero will become a mandatory challenger, leaving Inoue with no excuses to avoid fighting him.

Why don't we just focus on Inoue's upcoming fight? Whether we like it or not, it seems unlikely for them to face each other if it's not something desired by Inoue's camp. Inoue is incredibly fortunate with his rise, and if he wins this fight, he can proceed to a unification fight or move up in weight class again.

It's because as fans of Casimero, during John Riel hype we have been hearing that the fight is imminent and we almost seen that happen last year. If just Casimero has beaten Butler though.

Quote from: Hypnosis00 on July 05, 2023, 07:59:38 AM

There is a possibility that Casimero may even retire without proving himself against Inoue. Perhaps Inoue's camp is also afraid that Casimero might have a lucky shot and diminish Inoue's fame.

It's possible too that Casimero and Inoue might fight in the future, who knows, maybe there is a time that Casimero becoming the number 1 contender to a belt that Inoue is holding. And I doubt that the Japanese camp is afraid of Casimero, it's that it's not worth it anymore.

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Possibly. The way Casimero fight is different, more like a brawler, and his punch is not something a boxer could take when he ain't ready.

Perhaps Inoue has come to realize that Casimero is a highly dangerous fighter. This realization may have occurred when Casimero defeated Zolani Tete, who was considered a strong challenger for Inoue due to his height and reach advantage. However, Casimero found a way to effectively target Tete's body, which ultimately led to an early knockout.

Casimero is one of the silent but dangerous fighter in the world of boxing. He has the ability to knocking down his opponent in the early rounds and that is who he is, The quadro alas casimero. And for sure inoue must be alert if he us the opponent of casimero because casimero can take those highly dagame from his opponent. But for sure the monster inoue will not be an easy one because we all know that Inoue is the best. So this is a good fight.

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Quote from: danherbias07 on July 05, 2023, 08:13:43 AM

Possibly. The way Casimero fight is different, more like a brawler, and his punch is not something a boxer could take when he ain't ready.

Perhaps Inoue has come to realize that Casimero is a highly dangerous fighter. This realization may have occurred when Casimero defeated Zolani Tete, who was considered a strong challenger for Inoue due to his height and reach advantage. However, Casimero found a way to effectively target Tete's body, which ultimately led to an early knockout.

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Quote from: Natalim on July 05, 2023, 07:06:13 AM

Quote from: Pamadar on July 04, 2023, 04:14:22 PM

If in case he will win and Casimero will continue his winning stats, we might see them meeting in the same ring as long as Inoue
choose to stay in this current division.

f Inoue is also willing to fight Casimero, it would be intriguing, considering that Inoue had a chance to face Casimero in the bantamweight division but chose not to pursue it. Now that they will meet in the super bantamweight division, hopefully Casimero will become a mandatory challenger, leaving Inoue with no excuses to avoid fighting him.

Let's just hope that Inoue will stay in the super-bantamweight division for a little bit longer so that him and Casimero will meet and dance in the same ring because considering that Inoue will be successful in his upcoming fight with Stephen Fulton, there is a huge chance that he will go directly at Marlon Tapales to unify all the belts as long as he will not be mandated by the WBC to defend his belts against Casimero or anybody who holds the title as the challenger.

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on July 05, 2023, 07:59:38 AM

Why don't we just focus on Inoue's upcoming fight? Whether we like it or not, it seems unlikely for them to face each other if it's not something desired by Inoue's camp. Inoue is incredibly fortunate with his rise, and if he wins this fight, he can proceed to a unification fight or move up in weight class again.

Marlon Tapales. He is just waiting and I think he is preparing very hard too because whoever wins in this match will be up against him. If it's Inoue then Casimero should be happy that he will be facing a countrymen. If it's Fulton, then he might also have a chance if the boxing authorities mandate Inoue to fight one match before he could fight back the winner of Fulton against Tapales. (in case that happens)
I have read a lot of statements from Fulton and he said the rescheduling gave him more time to think and it adds more training and sparring time for him that will help him be fully prepared against Inoue. It's obvious that he is not underestimating him and instead, he is trying to be better to show how different their weight class is than where Inoue came from. We will definitely witness a good fight on July 25.

Quote from: Hypnosis00 on July 05, 2023, 07:59:38 AM

There is a possibility that Casimero may even retire without proving himself against Inoue. Perhaps Inoue's camp is also afraid that Casimero might have a lucky shot and diminish Inoue's fame.

Possibly. The way Casimero fight is different, more like a brawler, and his punch is not something a boxer could take when he ain't ready.

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Quote from: Pamadar on July 04, 2023, 04:14:22 PM

If in case he will win and Casimero will continue his winning stats, we might see them meeting in the same ring as long as Inoue
choose to stay in this current division.

f Inoue is also willing to fight Casimero, it would be intriguing, considering that Inoue had a chance to face Casimero in the bantamweight division but chose not to pursue it. Now that they will meet in the super bantamweight division, hopefully Casimero will become a mandatory challenger, leaving Inoue with no excuses to avoid fighting him.

Why don't we just focus on Inoue's upcoming fight? Whether we like it or not, it seems unlikely for them to face each other if it's not something desired by Inoue's camp. Inoue is incredibly fortunate with his rise, and if he wins this fight, he can proceed to a unification fight or move up in weight class again.

There is a possibility that Casimero may even retire without proving himself against Inoue. Perhaps Inoue's camp is also afraid that Casimero might have a lucky shot and diminish Inoue's fame.

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Quote from: Pamadar on July 04, 2023, 04:14:22 PM

If in case he will win and Casimero will continue his winning stats, we might see them meeting in the same ring as long as Inoue
choose to stay in this current division.

f Inoue is also willing to fight Casimero, it would be intriguing, considering that Inoue had a chance to face Casimero in the bantamweight division but chose not to pursue it. Now that they will meet in the super bantamweight division, hopefully Casimero will become a mandatory challenger, leaving Inoue with no excuses to avoid fighting him.

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Yes, at that time, the odds are really not in favor of Casimero because his weight is really dragging him down and making him inactive in the industry because of the same problem and just like what happened when he got stripped before he fought Butler, that might happen too if his fight with Inoue have been restored. But that just cannot be as after Covid subsided, another variant hit them again and made the government of Japan to close their borders to all foreign people.

Many events occurred during that time that led to Casimero losing his belt. However, we can still experience the excitement we've been missing in the bantamweight division if Inoue becomes a champion again and Casimero becomes a contender, as they are now in the same super bantamweight division. Let's hope this fight materializes, as it will undoubtedly satisfy the fans who have been eagerly awaiting this highly anticipated matchup.

It was a well deserve wait if ever these two great fighters will cross path again.

Though it's more on speculative expectations as both are not having a belt yet, it's possible for Inoue as this upcoming event
is giving him this opportunity to grab Fulton's belt.

If in case he will win and Casimero will continue his winning stats, we might see them meeting in the same ring as long as Inoue
choose to stay in this current division.

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Nope, Inoue already has established a good name and he has been mentioned by several boxing legends and some active boxers as well. Whoever Inoue is facing it will always going to generate a good money because the boxing fans would come to see Inoue's performance.

A boxer who have an excellent skill sets can be easily become popular that will attract boxing fans.

While he could generate a good amount of money, it doesn't compare to what he could make in the higher division. We can take a cue from the experience of Pacquiao. He was already popular in the lower division, but he didn't earn the same kind of money until he moved up to the higher division.

Of course, the higher the division the higher the paycheck. But it really depends on his body, on how far he can get his frame. Maybe 130 lbs might be huge for him though. Not sure if he can fight on that weight class, but let's see.

Even though that Manny has laid down the blue print, Pacquiao is very different though, I mean his genetics might have been breed for sports not just boxing. But his frame, his legs and that calves which generates power are one of the key for Manny's success and I doubt that anyone can duplicate it.

Inoue does have a strong spine that can carry weight. It just needs weeks to months to get used to it as long as it's gradual in adding weight, it will not be a problem for him. The fight schedule gave him enough to prepare.

Het gets a title shot in this division and then claims it. He then can move to the higher when no one challenges him after it. This is what he is after I think, he is already a top p4p fighter now he needs to claim bets in more divisions.

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Quote from: Japinat on June 17, 2023, 05:07:16 PM

Yes, at that time, the odds are really not in favor of Casimero because his weight is really dragging him down and making him inactive in the industry because of the same problem and just like what happened when he got stripped before he fought Butler, that might happen too if his fight with Inoue have been restored. But that just cannot be as after Covid subsided, another variant hit them again and made the government of Japan to close their borders to all foreign people.

Many events occurred during that time that led to Casimero losing his belt. However, we can still experience the excitement we've been missing in the bantamweight division if Inoue becomes a champion again and Casimero becomes a contender, as they are now in the same super bantamweight division. Let's hope this fight materializes, as it will undoubtedly satisfy the fans who have been eagerly awaiting this highly anticipated matchup.

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Nope, Inoue already has established a good name and he has been mentioned by several boxing legends and some active boxers as well. Whoever Inoue is facing it will always going to generate a good money because the boxing fans would come to see Inoue's performance.

A boxer who have an excellent skill sets can be easily become popular that will attract boxing fans.

While he could generate a good amount of money, it doesn't compare to what he could make in the higher division. We can take a cue from the experience of Pacquiao. He was already popular in the lower division, but he didn't earn the same kind of money until he moved up to the higher division.

Of course, the higher the division the higher the paycheck. But it really depends on his body, on how far he can get his frame. Maybe 130 lbs might be huge for him though. Not sure if he can fight on that weight class, but let's see.

Even though that Manny has laid down the blue print, Pacquiao is very different though, I mean his genetics might have been breed for sports not just boxing. But his frame, his legs and that calves which generates power are one of the key for Manny's success and I doubt that anyone can duplicate it.

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Quote from: Biscutard on July 03, 2023, 04:31:11 AM

Nope, Inoue already has established a good name and he has been mentioned by several boxing legends and some active boxers as well. Whoever Inoue is facing it will always going to generate a good money because the boxing fans would come to see Inoue's performance.

A boxer who have an excellent skill sets can be easily become popular that will attract boxing fans.

While he could generate a good amount of money, it doesn't compare to what he could make in the higher division. We can take a cue from the experience of Pacquiao. He was already popular in the lower division, but he didn't earn the same kind of money until he moved up to the higher division.

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Naoya Inoue had no quarrels whether he will fight inside Japan, in US or in any other country. It's just that organizers and Bob Arum prefer to make the fight happen in Inoue's backyard because they might have already compared the revenues to other places and it's much more suitable for Inoue to challenge Fulton in Japan as that will generate more profits for them.

Inoue can have this fight in a US soil but I guess it is already established that more money can be made in Japan where Inoue is already an icon rather than in US where Fulton is not yet considered in that level.

I agree with that. Based on his records, we can see that most of his fights have taken place in Japan. However, he has also fought outside his country with the same dominant results. So it seems that the revenue generated from his fights matters a lot. In the world of boxing, the higher weight divisions tend to be the money makers, while Inoue's current division may not yet generate as much financial interest.

Nope, Inoue already has established a good name and he has been mentioned by several boxing legends and some active boxers as well. Whoever Inoue is facing it will always going to generate a good money because the boxing fans would come to see Inoue's performance.

A boxer who have an excellent skill sets can be easily become popular that will attract boxing fans.

I seriously think that it is not what we meant, we know that Inoue is already a big name in the industry and hence why money is following him wherever he go or what division he climb into. It's just that the organizers and even promoters wanted to make sure that they could maximize the profits that they could generate in this fight rather than taking a risks just because of the fact that Inoue is already a big name in the league and so on. Hence why they are taking this fight in Japan, just to make sure because it is a business.

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Quote from: Biscutard on July 03, 2023, 04:31:11 AM

Nope, Inoue already has established a good name and he has been mentioned by several boxing legends and some active boxers as well. Whoever Inoue is facing it will always going to generate a good money because the boxing fans would come to see Inoue's performance.

A boxer who have an excellent skill sets can be easily become popular that will attract boxing fans.

No doubt about it because right now the boxers in his weight division wanted to fight him either to steal the show or at least get some decent amount of money from their fight. His skills are rare and he is excellent when it comes to giving the fans the real fight they wanted to see in a boxing match. So he is gaining more fans after his good performances in his latest fight.

of course, whoever is making a noise in the boxing world is the money maker when it comes to fights. but that is, if he will continuously to win fight after fight, and it seems, he's doing a great job for now. if he will beat fulton, he will find a bigger name to fight with, and that list is a very short one now.
if he won't stay much longer at 122, he will definitely go one weight division up, and that needs conditioning of his body. for now, let's see how he will perform with the fulton fight. it is fast approaching and other betting lines are more attractive to bet. winning method, inoue by ko is at 2.07x, whereas, inou by decision is at 3.05x at stake.

Decent enough if you are a Inoue fan, and for sure there is additional adjustment once the actual schedule takes place
during the fight event we will see more options to bet.

I like to follow that opinion of yours, whoever making the noise will earn the hypes the more you win the more you can attract fans and promoters.

Same deal with Inoue after unifying all the belts from his last division, now he's attracting more interest
and possible to make more money fights.

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