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Topic: [Boxing] Stephen Fulton vs. Naoya Inoue | WBC & WBO 122 lbs bout | July 25 - page 46. (Read 7068 times)

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Going to be a big task for him, at least he is willing to take that and not avoiding him.

Correct. Fulton is almost preparing to move up weight at 126 having a supposed rematch with Figueroa.

Instead, he skipped on that part of moving up so as to not have any regrets in his career, he needs to face Naoya Inoue.

After he wins, for let's say it will happen, Fulton will probably have big fights at 126 and a possible title fight already.

Yes, that's the courage of Stephen Fulton he is not afraid to go and chase for bigger fights. Like in the Figueroa wherein it was really a hard fight for him, but still he surpass all expectations but fighting toe to toe at times with Brandon as he as in a disadvantage. But what's important is that he get the job done and didn't move up for a rematch but instead will go and fight Inoue with his belt on the line and in Japan. For sure, champions are waiting for him at 126 lbs. So let's see first the result of this fight for him.

He's giving the fans the entertainment that they wanted. Fighting the monster in front of his own countrymen, Fulton is doing something that will earn him a huge hype in his career once he manages to protect his belt.

Not an easy fight for sure, the Monster is capable of upsetting him even he's in a much bigger division
with Inoue's flexibilities, it's really interesting to see how both fighters will showcase their skills.
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@danherbias07  - It was the Olympics though that Roy Jones was robbed of the gold medal, so it can't be compare and that was a long time ago. But in any case I agree that Fulton needs to go to Japan and handle his business with the Monster.

That's the only way he can really gain the respect of being a champion, but beating Inoue in his home town. Going to be a big task for him, at least he is willing to take that and not avoiding him.
Is it official that this fight will happen in Inoue's hometown and is there a set date already?

This will be by far a tough fight for Fulton facing Inoue and might be his first loss. Fulton is also a good boxer known as defensive but is his strength and power enough to beat the monster? I don't think so. Nevertheless I admire him for his guts to face Inoue.
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Going to be a big task for him, at least he is willing to take that and not avoiding him.

Correct. Fulton is almost preparing to move up weight at 126 having a supposed rematch with Figueroa.

Instead, he skipped on that part of moving up so as to not have any regrets in his career, he needs to face Naoya Inoue.

After he wins, for let's say it will happen, Fulton will probably have big fights at 126 and a possible title fight already.

Yes, that's the courage of Stephen Fulton he is not afraid to go and chase for bigger fights. Like in the Figueroa wherein it was really a hard fight for him, but still he surpass all expectations but fighting toe to toe at times with Brandon as he as in a disadvantage. But what's important is that he get the job done and didn't move up for a rematch but instead will go and fight Inoue with his belt on the line and in Japan. For sure, champions are waiting for him at 126 lbs. So let's see first the result of this fight for him.
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Going to be a big task for him, at least he is willing to take that and not avoiding him.

Correct. Fulton is almost preparing to move up weight at 126 having a supposed rematch with Figueroa.

Instead, he skipped on that part of moving up so as to not have any regrets in his career, he needs to face Naoya Inoue.

After he wins, for let's say it will happen, Fulton will probably have big fights at 126 and a possible title fight already.
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I guess the answer is that he is more powerful at 122 lbs than 118 lbs in my opinion.

This could be his natural weight for all we know, again no need to diet and not to eat calories because of the weight limit. Now he can eat everything he want without bothering himself and watching what food to eat and what's not.

As for every boxer, as they meet the required weight at the weigh-in, during the actual fight a day later, they are having a boost of about 1-2 lbs as they eat more because they already meet the required weight. They surely miss having that big meal after intense training.

Inoue is probably at around 122 lbs when he is fighting in his previous matches after weight-in that's why I have to agree that Inoue's natural weight is around 122. We should probably have the same quick and strength by Inoue against Fulton at 122.
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@danherbias07  - It was the Olympics though that Roy Jones was robbed of the gold medal, so it can't be compare and that was a long time ago. But in any case I agree that Fulton needs to go to Japan and handle his business with the Monster.

That's the only way he can really gain the respect of being a champion, but beating Inoue in his home town. Going to be a big task for him, at least he is willing to take that and not avoiding him.
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That was the first fight wherein Donaire really hurt Inoue and it was the first time that we saw Inoue got wobbly and dizzy because he was hit by a solid punch, nevertheless he didn't go down but instead continue to go on.
"Donaire just couldn't knock out Inoue, and Inoue was smart to make the right adjustments, even though he was hurt in the fight. In the next fight, although Donaire was still confident, Inoue had already made the right plans to knock him out early.

Yes and that is the actual simple truth behind why Donaire failed on his campaign to avenge his loss against Inoue on their first encounter, eventually, that latter got a 2-0 standing against Donaire because he came much more prepared which gave Donaire an unexpected early knockout. Donaire didn't made an excuse for that matter because what happened explained it all, the monster was just too much for him.
He should be the first to realize it. Donaire also defeated veterans in the sport when he was younger and now the age caught him up so it is time for him to swallow reality. But he still has a chance now that Inoue left the weight class that he is in. That may be his last chance to reclaim his throne and retire with a blast.
Right now, Inoue will need to focus on this fight as Fulton should not be underestimated. That's a champion with lots of experience and defeating him will be a hard task for the Monster. Also, Fulton may have already expected this to happen even when Inoue was in the lower weight class, so he was prepared early.
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“Scooter turned around to me and said, ‘I’m going to have to go over to Japan,’ and I remember I said, ‘What? What the f—k are you talking about?’” Rahim recalled. “He said, ‘I’m going to have to go to Japan to fight Inoue.’ He told me he had to do it. I thought Stephen was f—g crazy. I immediately thought about Roy Jones being screwed over in the (1988) Olympics by the South Koreans. (And) Inoue, at the time, was 118. I didn’t think anything of it.
https://www.ringtv.com/649277-exclusive-stephen-fulton-and-trainer-say-beating-naoya-inoue-in-japan-is-key-to-respect-in-america/
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That was the first fight wherein Donaire really hurt Inoue and it was the first time that we saw Inoue got wobbly and dizzy because he was hit by a solid punch, nevertheless he didn't go down but instead continue to go on.
"Donaire just couldn't knock out Inoue, and Inoue was smart to make the right adjustments, even though he was hurt in the fight. In the next fight, although Donaire was still confident, Inoue had already made the right plans to knock him out early.

Yes and that is the actual simple truth behind why Donaire failed on his campaign to avenge his loss against Inoue on their first encounter, eventually, that latter got a 2-0 standing against Donaire because he came much more prepared which gave Donaire an unexpected early knockout. Donaire didn't made an excuse for that matter because what happened explained it all, the monster was just too much for him.

Donaire is too old to catch up with the speed of Inoue, if Donaire is in his prime probably he can dance with Inoue and may even make the monster kiss the canvas.  But well, boxer got old and a new generation will dominate the ring.  It was a great fight when they fight the first time, but it was brutal when they got a rematch.  But there are some excuses like the gloves Donaire is using isn't his, and never had used that kind of gloves, so probably during the match Donaire is somehow distracted by the different gloves he is using.  But well, I do not think that the result will be different even if he is using the same gloves he (Donaire) regularly use.
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That was the first fight wherein Donaire really hurt Inoue and it was the first time that we saw Inoue got wobbly and dizzy because he was hit by a solid punch, nevertheless he didn't go down but instead continue to go on.
"Donaire just couldn't knock out Inoue, and Inoue was smart to make the right adjustments, even though he was hurt in the fight. In the next fight, although Donaire was still confident, Inoue had already made the right plans to knock him out early.

Yes and that is the actual simple truth behind why Donaire failed on his campaign to avenge his loss against Inoue on their first encounter, eventually, that latter got a 2-0 standing against Donaire because he came much more prepared which gave Donaire an unexpected early knockout. Donaire didn't made an excuse for that matter because what happened explained it all, the monster was just too much for him.
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Yes, but we haven't seen his chin tested early though, it was just Donaire who really broke the barriers literally when he fought Inoue the first time. He broke his orbital bone on that fight, but still Inoue tapping on his mentality to even become stronger in the later rounds even if he has suffered that.

Yup, that was one hell of a punch that Inoue took and yet he survived that one. If only it was not Inoue on the receiver's end of that hook, that fight is over. I agree that Inoue got a granite chin that he couldn't be knockout with a single punch, should be volume if you wanna knock out this monster which is a very tough hill to climb because opponents have to take some punches also before they can hit him hehe.

The only question I have here is if Inoue is capable of bringing his power to the heavier division, this is an acid test for him, and his lucky because passing this test also means winning a title at 122lbs, his first one.

Good question, but if he is weight drain at 118 but still has the punching power to beat everyone, what else if he is fully hydrated at 122 lbs and not going to drain himself up?

I guess the answer is that he is more powerful at 122 lbs than 118 lbs in my opinion.

This could be his natural weight for all we know, again no need to diet and not to eat calories because of the weight limit. Now he can eat everything he want without bothering himself and watching what food to eat and what's not.

I agree with that sentiment. Inoue got a good chance that he is a much more dangerous monster at 122 compared when he was at 118 because it wasn't his natural weight. This time, we will see him more buffed up than he was in the 118 that is so drain just to make the weight and make the fight happen.

That's just a speculation for now because not all boxers can bring their power once they climb the upper division, but let's see what will be the case of Inoue on his climb.
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Here, it's different. Inoue needs this fight because he is aiming for a new belt. He has to remember that, although he is the more popular fighter, he is the challenger here.

He's the challenger, and he needs this belt to add more hypes to his legacy,

after completing that unification from his previous division, now he's moving up to extend his legacy.
Fighter like him who care about winning are not afraid to take the risk. It will be nice since there's no news or any update that one of
the fighter is backing out, both are willing to take that shot from one another.
Inoue wants to prove that he can win and take Fulton's belt while the current champ will be tested. He needs to prove his worth as the
current title holder.


It's only right that his name is hyped because he's really good, so I hope he doesn't disappoint the fans who admire him greatly.

I hope he wins and gets the belt, because it's not just Inoue's fight but Asia's fight against Fulton. I'm not worried for Inoue in this fight. I think this champion is still too green to match up against the Japanese monster who could possibly become a Hall of Famer in the future.
With Inoue’s timing, punching power and body shots, it’s not surprising if he will beat Fulton in this fight and get the belt he deserves. Though Fulton has also its impressive performances inside the ring, but I must say Inoue is different. He’s the monster in the ring, that could possibly defeat the performance of Tulfon. I just hope Inoue will become more aggressive in this fight as he’s the challenger and hopefully the new champion after this match.

He's in a mission to win more titles,

After unifying all the belts, now he's aiming for another but in a different division, if basing on the past performances,
Inoue is really capable of snatching the belt from Fulton, it will be an interesting match between these two champs both
are great inside the ring but proving it against one another, might excite the fans.
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Here, it's different. Inoue needs this fight because he is aiming for a new belt. He has to remember that, although he is the more popular fighter, he is the challenger here.

He's the challenger, and he needs this belt to add more hypes to his legacy,

after completing that unification from his previous division, now he's moving up to extend his legacy.
Fighter like him who care about winning are not afraid to take the risk. It will be nice since there's no news or any update that one of
the fighter is backing out, both are willing to take that shot from one another.
Inoue wants to prove that he can win and take Fulton's belt while the current champ will be tested. He needs to prove his worth as the
current title holder.


It's only right that his name is hyped because he's really good, so I hope he doesn't disappoint the fans who admire him greatly.

I hope he wins and gets the belt, because it's not just Inoue's fight but Asia's fight against Fulton. I'm not worried for Inoue in this fight. I think this champion is still too green to match up against the Japanese monster who could possibly become a Hall of Famer in the future.
With Inoue’s timing, punching power and body shots, it’s not surprising if he will beat Fulton in this fight and get the belt he deserves. Though Fulton has also its impressive performances inside the ring, but I must say Inoue is different. He’s the monster in the ring, that could possibly defeat the performance of Tulfon. I just hope Inoue will become more aggressive in this fight as he’s the challenger and hopefully the new champion after this match.
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That was the first fight wherein Donaire really hurt Inoue and it was the first time that we saw Inoue got wobbly and dizzy because he was hit by a solid punch, nevertheless he didn't go down but instead continue to go on.
"Donaire just couldn't knock out Inoue, and Inoue was smart to make the right adjustments, even though he was hurt in the fight. In the next fight, although Donaire was still confident, Inoue had already made the right plans to knock him out early.

And most likely Donaire see that weakness of Inoue that's why in the rematch it was a different approach by him. He try to go toe to toe and hoping that he can get another opportunity for the left hook. But Inoue is too smart to be hit again and so that strategy back fired on Donaire.
Exactly, and it cannot happen in this fight anymore, as Donaire needs to win the championship to fulfill his goal of retiring as a champion.
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Yes, but we haven't seen his chin tested early though, it was just Donaire who really broke the barriers literally when he fought Inoue the first time. He broke his orbital bone on that fight, but still Inoue tapping on his mentality to even become stronger in the later rounds even if he has suffered that.

Yup, that was one hell of a punch that Inoue took and yet he survived that one. If only it was not Inoue on the receiver's end of that hook, that fight is over. I agree that Inoue got a granite chin that he couldn't be knockout with a single punch, should be volume if you wanna knock out this monster which is a very tough hill to climb because opponents have to take some punches also before they can hit him hehe.

Donaire got him already with that hook. It was already the sign that Inoue could be hurt and made dizzy and wobbly. Speaking of volume, it was what Donaire lacked after that hook caught Inoue. Donaire should have jumped right into him and release a barrage of solid punches. Such move is risky of course because Inoue could counter with a strong one but it was also a risk worth taking because letting Inoue recover is definitely a worse move. And it was proven with the decision of that fight.
That was the first fight wherein Donaire really hurt Inoue and it was the first time that we saw Inoue got wobbly and dizzy because he was hit by a solid punch, nevertheless he didn't go down but instead continue to go on.

And most likely Donaire see that weakness of Inoue that's why in the rematch it was a different approach by him. He try to go toe to toe and hoping that he can get another opportunity for the left hook. But Inoue is too smart to be hit again and so that strategy back fired on Donaire.
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Yes, but we haven't seen his chin tested early though, it was just Donaire who really broke the barriers literally when he fought Inoue the first time. He broke his orbital bone on that fight, but still Inoue tapping on his mentality to even become stronger in the later rounds even if he has suffered that.

Yup, that was one hell of a punch that Inoue took and yet he survived that one. If only it was not Inoue on the receiver's end of that hook, that fight is over. I agree that Inoue got a granite chin that he couldn't be knockout with a single punch, should be volume if you wanna knock out this monster which is a very tough hill to climb because opponents have to take some punches also before they can hit him hehe.

Donaire got him already with that hook. It was already the sign that Inoue could be hurt and made dizzy and wobbly. Speaking of volume, it was what Donaire lacked after that hook caught Inoue. Donaire should have jumped right into him and release a barrage of solid punches. Such move is risky of course because Inoue could counter with a strong one but it was also a risk worth taking because letting Inoue recover is definitely a worse move. And it was proven with the decision of that fight.
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Yes, but we haven't seen his chin tested early though, it was just Donaire who really broke the barriers literally when he fought Inoue the first time. He broke his orbital bone on that fight, but still Inoue tapping on his mentality to even become stronger in the later rounds even if he has suffered that.

Yup, that was one hell of a punch that Inoue took and yet he survived that one. If only it was not Inoue on the receiver's end of that hook, that fight is over. I agree that Inoue got a granite chin that he couldn't be knockout with a single punch, should be volume if you wanna knock out this monster which is a very tough hill to climb because opponents have to take some punches also before they can hit him hehe.

The only question I have here is if Inoue is capable of bringing his power to the heavier division, this is an acid test for him, and his lucky because passing this test also means winning a title at 122lbs, his first one.

Good question, but if he is weight drain at 118 but still has the punching power to beat everyone, what else if he is fully hydrated at 122 lbs and not going to drain himself up?

I guess the answer is that he is more powerful at 122 lbs than 118 lbs in my opinion.

This could be his natural weight for all we know, again no need to diet and not to eat calories because of the weight limit. Now he can eat everything he want without bothering himself and watching what food to eat and what's not.
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I believe that even if it's already official, the odds will not be available at this early. Usually, the odds are available 1 week before the fight, while on some fights it's a day before the fight, so sorry guys, we cannot bet early on this game.

It's not the most cases. Sometimes there are big matches that are listed early even several months before the fight.

Take the example of the Bantamweight Unification bout between Naoya Inoue and Paul Butler. It was announced if I'm not mistaken around October but bookies, even crypto-sportsbook already listed the fight right away.

If you also look at some listed future boxing matches in some sportsbook, there are matches that are just 1-2 months to go and so. I don't know how's the system behind it but not all fights are only available for betting within a 1 week timeframe or less.
Trying out to accumulate more bets with that having a huge time frame or gap? This is the only thing that i do have in mind if we do speak about those betting lines are already that available.
We could obviously see up these things specially on known or popular boxers or simply with those huge main event or known ones which it would be understandable that it would be getting that so much attention.
So making those odds and bets to be available could neither be seen on 1-2 months before the fight which its not something new anymore.We've seen several fights on having
this kind of set-up.

Well, the odds of this fight is something I'm not worried about right now, what I'm looking into is more details about what kind of training Inoue and Fulton have, because that can determine the outcome of the fight. To make a decision when betting, it is not advisable to get carried away by emotions, I know that Inoue has great potential and favoritism to win this fight, his reputation speaks for itself, in fact, in my personal opinion Inoue will win .

I'm sure most people will bet on Inoue, of course this is a clear understatement towards Fulton but surprises can happen and anything can happen in this fight.

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Inoue, Fighter of the Year in Japan



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The Japan Boxing Commission held its annual ceremony to award the best of this country during 2022 and among the awards stood out Naoya Inoue, as the Fighter of the Year.

Other awards were also presented at the ceremony, including the Ryota Murata-Gennady Golovkin fight as the best of the year, as well as Mizuki Hiruta as fighter of the year and Kenshiro Teraji as best technique.

Inoue had a great 2022 when he defeated Nonito Donaire with a spectacular knockout in June and then defeated Paul Butler in December to become undisputed bantamweight champion, and at the beginning of 2023, he announced that he will move up in class and vacate his belts.

Source: https://www.wbaboxing.com/boxing-news/inoue-fighter-of-the-year-in-japan
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So yes, all they have is a verbal agreement for both boxers and both camps that indeed they will be having a fight in Japan somewhere in May. And from what I read about the other sources, Bob Arum mentioned that all negotiations are being handled by their Japanese counterpart and Arum's role is to oversee about it as he's nothing to worry about what's happening behind the scenes because it's not his first time negotiating with Inoue's main team. But for Al Haymon of the PBC, he's not making any noise and it seems that he's just letting Fulton do what he wanted as long as they have the bigger slice.

Yes. this is the recent update and just waiting for the final date.

But looking at some other bookies, there's already a date established which is May.

Not until there will be final announcement right straight at the Top Rank's camp, I will just update the thread later on.
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Yep, that's how he evolved after his very first close against Nonito, he has evolved even more after that. He learn how to phase and then read his opponent and even have the mentality to survived a fight eve if he has that injury already.

And we all know after that fight, he beat Donaire by knockout and same with Butler.

So he is still getting stronger and smarter in any fight and keeps on progressing. So for sure he will know a thing or two against Fulton because he is a great fighter. Inoue has that ability to absorb every strengths of his opponents.
Inoue is on his prime and that makes him an incredibly dangerous fighter, not only he has the intelligence and skill to adjust his fighting style, he still has the physical capabilities to absorb a massive amount of damage and do whatever he wants on the ring, so it is not surprising that despite being the challenger the many different boxing fans around the world think of him as the favorite on his fight against Fulton.
And just like what everyone is saying, he managed to differ his fighting style after his fight with Nonito. Definitely a good characteristic for a boxer to have but this won't men an edge to others with a consistent fighting form such as with Ryan Garcia who instill that classic style of him to all of his fights, but that is a different story. In this fight, it is quite obvious that Inoue is having his edge over Fulton. But as we all know, things may still happen inside the square and for sure both boxers are aware of it which pushes them to be more ready before the bell rings.
Yes, but we haven't seen his chin tested early though, it was just Donaire who really broke the barriers literally when he fought Inoue the first time. He broke his orbital bone on that fight, but still Inoue tapping on his mentality to even become stronger in the later rounds even if he has suffered that.

Yup, that was one hell of a punch that Inoue took and yet he survived that one. If only it was not Inoue on the receiver's end of that hook, that fight is over. I agree that Inoue got a granite chin that he couldn't be knockout with a single punch, should be volume if you wanna knock out this monster which is a very tough hill to climb because opponents have to take some punches also before they can hit him hehe.

The only question I have here is if Inoue is capable of bringing his power to the heavier division, this is an acid test for him, and his lucky because passing this test also means winning a title at 122lbs, his first one.


Would be an obvious adjustment to make; weight class is a core category in boxing and other fighting sports. We've seen it with many boxers who either moved up or down on weight class but most of them struggled at first simply because of weight management and heavier punches to be taken perhaps on higher weight class.
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Yes, but we haven't seen his chin tested early though, it was just Donaire who really broke the barriers literally when he fought Inoue the first time. He broke his orbital bone on that fight, but still Inoue tapping on his mentality to even become stronger in the later rounds even if he has suffered that.

Yup, that was one hell of a punch that Inoue took and yet he survived that one. If only it was not Inoue on the receiver's end of that hook, that fight is over. I agree that Inoue got a granite chin that he couldn't be knockout with a single punch, should be volume if you wanna knock out this monster which is a very tough hill to climb because opponents have to take some punches also before they can hit him hehe.

The only question I have here is if Inoue is capable of bringing his power to the heavier division, this is an acid test for him, and his lucky because passing this test also means winning a title at 122lbs, his first one.

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