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Topic: [Boxing] Stephen Fulton vs. Naoya Inoue | WBC & WBO 122 lbs bout | July 25 - page 44. (Read 7068 times)

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This is why its unlikely that there would be some unjustifiable counts of punches landed and missed out on this one.Lets just see on whose better inside the ring
between these two.

Let's forget that speculation of cheating and anything else. I doubt that will happen in this fight.

Naoya Inoue surely is pissed if something like that happened where the clear winner of the fight won't be the announced winner.

It will also ruin the market of the boxing industry in Japan if such big fights will be associated with cheating.

That was the olympics, right? Surely, the Japan didn't anticipated that one and they aren't the only ones who judged the fight, so what happened back at the day especially when it's already decades away is actually different from what we have now. We are now in the modern times where cheating might be easy but it's hard to get past by it especially if there's so many eyes watching.

I know that there are some Fulton fans that are worried by that same incident that might happen again, but folks, Inoue doesn't need any help nor will tolerate any help from the judges.

not only eyes from the boxing fans, but basically anyone can get a video now with the fight and they can always re-play it to investigate if there was indeed cheating. the technology and social media nowadays are more sophisticated. also, as japanese people are known to be honest people, i don't think they will go to that route of cheating. so am pretty confident about this fight. fulton should not worry about the cheating aspect.
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This is why its unlikely that there would be some unjustifiable counts of punches landed and missed out on this one.Lets just see on whose better inside the ring
between these two.

Let's forget that speculation of cheating and anything else. I doubt that will happen in this fight.

Naoya Inoue surely is pissed if something like that happened where the clear winner of the fight won't be the announced winner.

It will also ruin the market of the boxing industry in Japan if such big fights will be associated with cheating.

There will be no cheating speculation in this fight because it will not be decided by the judges. I'm pretty sure one of them will win via KO, but I have doubts it will be Fulton since Inoue has been eliminating boxers that he fought, and I think he will be more aggressive against a champion.

Yes, Inoue has been steam rolling everyone at 118 lbs, and since he has move up to super bantamweight, champion like Fulton is waiting for him. So give credit for Fulton here, he might be really confident and thinks that he need to beat Inoue, and gain the respect.

For Inoue's climbing up, yes, it might not be so difficult for him after all. And it just happen that he will go against one of the best champion in this division, nevertheless, he will be still be the favorite against the American.
This is where should Fulton be showing on whose the champion on that division and would definitely earn that respect but lets see if Inoue would be easily snatched out those belts and would really be having
that domination but he couldn't really just that too confident because Fulton wouldnt surely be giving up the belt easily and this is something that really interesting to see or look
at considering that Inoue had stepped up on the ladder and trying out to test his power on higher weight divisions.It wont really be that simple i guess just as usual
but knowing "the monster" then for sure he wont disappoint.

That's mainly the reason why this fight attracts a lot of attention in the whole boxing industry because apart from seeing Inoue's journey in this new weight class, this is also about Fulton's title defense against a boxer who is touted to be a monster just like what his nickname shows. Even us, right? We can't really let this slide because both mentioned boxers do have a decent chance and capabilities to knock down each other. That said, I think this fight will go down to who will crumble first and who can weather all the vicious punches.
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This is why its unlikely that there would be some unjustifiable counts of punches landed and missed out on this one.Lets just see on whose better inside the ring
between these two.

Let's forget that speculation of cheating and anything else. I doubt that will happen in this fight.

Naoya Inoue surely is pissed if something like that happened where the clear winner of the fight won't be the announced winner.

It will also ruin the market of the boxing industry in Japan if such big fights will be associated with cheating.

There will be no cheating speculation in this fight because it will not be decided by the judges. I'm pretty sure one of them will win via KO, but I have doubts it will be Fulton since Inoue has been eliminating boxers that he fought, and I think he will be more aggressive against a champion.

Yes, Inoue has been steam rolling everyone at 118 lbs, and since he has move up to super bantamweight, champion like Fulton is waiting for him. So give credit for Fulton here, he might be really confident and thinks that he need to beat Inoue, and gain the respect.

For Inoue's climbing up, yes, it might not be so difficult for him after all. And it just happen that he will go against one of the best champion in this division, nevertheless, he will be still be the favorite against the American.
This is where should Fulton be showing on whose the champion on that division and would definitely earn that respect but lets see if Inoue would be easily snatched out those belts and would really be having
that domination but he couldn't really just that too confident because Fulton wouldnt surely be giving up the belt easily and this is something that really interesting to see or look
at considering that Inoue had stepped up on the ladder and trying out to test his power on higher weight divisions.It wont really be that simple i guess just as usual
but knowing "the monster" then for sure he wont disappoint.
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This is why its unlikely that there would be some unjustifiable counts of punches landed and missed out on this one.Lets just see on whose better inside the ring
between these two.

Let's forget that speculation of cheating and anything else. I doubt that will happen in this fight.

Naoya Inoue surely is pissed if something like that happened where the clear winner of the fight won't be the announced winner.

It will also ruin the market of the boxing industry in Japan if such big fights will be associated with cheating.

That was the olympics, right? Surely, the Japan didn't anticipated that one and they aren't the only ones who judged the fight, so what happened back at the day especially when it's already decades away is actually different from what we have now. We are now in the modern times where cheating might be easy but it's hard to get past by it especially if there's so many eyes watching.

I know that there are some Fulton fans that are worried by that same incident that might happen again, but folks, Inoue doesn't need any help nor will tolerate any help from the judges.
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Yes, Inoue has been steam rolling everyone at 118 lbs, and since he has move up to super bantamweight, champion like Fulton is waiting for him. So give credit for Fulton here, he might be really confident and thinks that he need to beat Inoue, and gain the respect.

For Inoue's climbing up, yes, it might not be so difficult for him after all. And it just happen that he will go against one of the best champion in this division, nevertheless, he will be still be the favorite against the American.
Well, he did too great to be able to climb that ladder and be the favorite. I am just glad that Fulton didn't even flinch with the challenge, he may also like to see how far this guy could reach after dominating the lower weight class. Indeed, all credit to him. His camp could just ignore him and wait until he beat some guys in the higher ranks before taking them and yet they accepted it as soon as he came up.

That makes me worry about betting for Inoue here. Fulton's confidence is too high like he is damn sure he can win this match. We will see.


A fighter's heart as for my take in how Fulton accepts the challenge, though we know that Inoue can make an upset even he's a challenger here. His former division is not by far from this new one.

Maybe Fulton's confidence was high since he's the current champ and like what you said, he's not just a champ
doing nothing, but he climbs up because he showcases his skills and dominates all those past opponents.
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Yes, Inoue has been steam rolling everyone at 118 lbs, and since he has move up to super bantamweight, champion like Fulton is waiting for him. So give credit for Fulton here, he might be really confident and thinks that he need to beat Inoue, and gain the respect.

For Inoue's climbing up, yes, it might not be so difficult for him after all. And it just happen that he will go against one of the best champion in this division, nevertheless, he will be still be the favorite against the American.
Well, he did too great to be able to climb that ladder and be the favorite. I am just glad that Fulton didn't even flinch with the challenge, he may also like to see how far this guy could reach after dominating the lower weight class. Indeed, all credit to him. His camp could just ignore him and wait until he beat some guys in the higher ranks before taking them and yet they accepted it as soon as he came up.

That makes me worry about betting for Inoue here. Fulton's confidence is too high like he is damn sure he can win this match. We will see.
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This is why its unlikely that there would be some unjustifiable counts of punches landed and missed out on this one.Lets just see on whose better inside the ring
between these two.

Let's forget that speculation of cheating and anything else. I doubt that will happen in this fight.

Naoya Inoue surely is pissed if something like that happened where the clear winner of the fight won't be the announced winner.

It will also ruin the market of the boxing industry in Japan if such big fights will be associated with cheating.

There will be no cheating speculation in this fight because it will not be decided by the judges. I'm pretty sure one of them will win via KO, but I have doubts it will be Fulton since Inoue has been eliminating boxers that he fought, and I think he will be more aggressive against a champion.

Yes, Inoue has been steam rolling everyone at 118 lbs, and since he has move up to super bantamweight, champion like Fulton is waiting for him. So give credit for Fulton here, he might be really confident and thinks that he need to beat Inoue, and gain the respect.

For Inoue's climbing up, yes, it might not be so difficult for him after all. And it just happen that he will go against one of the best champion in this division, nevertheless, he will be still be the favorite against the American.
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This is why its unlikely that there would be some unjustifiable counts of punches landed and missed out on this one.Lets just see on whose better inside the ring
between these two.

Let's forget that speculation of cheating and anything else. I doubt that will happen in this fight.

Naoya Inoue surely is pissed if something like that happened where the clear winner of the fight won't be the announced winner.

It will also ruin the market of the boxing industry in Japan if such big fights will be associated with cheating.
He may not even consider that a win if the judges will try to manipulate the score card. This is not an exhibition match like what happened in the undercards of Pacquiao vs DK Yoo, and I doubt judges will also be from that place and this is to avoid that kind of incident.
Yes, let's forget there will be a force that will do that kind of bad intent. But just for the discussion's sake, there will probably be an investigation if they do.
With 2 titles on the line, they won't just sit and let it go if it's too obvious.
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This is why its unlikely that there would be some unjustifiable counts of punches landed and missed out on this one.Lets just see on whose better inside the ring
between these two.

Let's forget that speculation of cheating and anything else. I doubt that will happen in this fight.

Naoya Inoue surely is pissed if something like that happened where the clear winner of the fight won't be the announced winner.

It will also ruin the market of the boxing industry in Japan if such big fights will be associated with cheating.

There will be no cheating speculation in this fight because it will not be decided by the judges. I'm pretty sure one of them will win via KO, but I have doubts it will be Fulton since Inoue has been eliminating boxers that he fought, and I think he will be more aggressive against a champion.
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This is why its unlikely that there would be some unjustifiable counts of punches landed and missed out on this one.Lets just see on whose better inside the ring
between these two.

Let's forget that speculation of cheating and anything else. I doubt that will happen in this fight.

Naoya Inoue surely is pissed if something like that happened where the clear winner of the fight won't be the announced winner.

It will also ruin the market of the boxing industry in Japan if such big fights will be associated with cheating.
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@danherbias07  - It was the Olympics though that Roy Jones was robbed of the gold medal, so it can't be compare and that was a long time ago. But in any case I agree that Fulton needs to go to Japan and handle his business with the Monster.

That's the only way he can really gain the respect of being a champion, but beating Inoue in his home town. Going to be a big task for him, at least he is willing to take that and not avoiding him.

So Fulton fighting in Japan is somehow worrisome since Japan is known as a country that has an unfair judging system.  So I think in order to win Fulton needs to KO Inoue. If Fulton failed to knock out Inoue, no matter how ahead he is in point, there is a huge possibility that he will lose the fight.

In fairness to Inoue, I think he really needs to finish the fight with a KO win or dominating performance to remove all rumors and assumption that the fight is unfairly judged.
I am quite sure that over the years we have seen judges not being impartial all around the world and not only in Japan, so we must avoid making any kind of judgment on how the judges of this fight score it before they do so, maybe you are right and they try to help Inoue by giving him some rounds that he did not deserve, but maybe this is not the case and Inoue is able to convincingly win this fight even if he is unable to KO Fulton by simply dominating the whole fight.
Judges couldnt easily be applying out on being bias on a certain fighter when giving out those score cards considering that this is happening on world stage or ring which lots of eyes had been really that watching

which means that making out some unrealistic or non justified scoring will really result out on criticisms and bashes which this is something that they dont really like for them to have.

This is why its unlikely that there would be some unjustifiable counts of punches landed and missed out on this one.Lets just see on whose better inside the ring
between these two.
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@danherbias07  - It was the Olympics though that Roy Jones was robbed of the gold medal, so it can't be compare and that was a long time ago. But in any case I agree that Fulton needs to go to Japan and handle his business with the Monster.

That's the only way he can really gain the respect of being a champion, but beating Inoue in his home town. Going to be a big task for him, at least he is willing to take that and not avoiding him.

So Fulton fighting in Japan is somehow worrisome since Japan is known as a country that has an unfair judging system.  So I think in order to win Fulton needs to KO Inoue. If Fulton failed to knock out Inoue, no matter how ahead he is in point, there is a huge possibility that he will lose the fight.

In fairness to Inoue, I think he really needs to finish the fight with a KO win or dominating performance to remove all rumors and assumption that the fight is unfairly judged.
I am quite sure that over the years we have seen judges not being impartial all around the world and not only in Japan, so we must avoid making any kind of judgment on how the judges of this fight score it before they do so, maybe you are right and they try to help Inoue by giving him some rounds that he did not deserve, but maybe this is not the case and Inoue is able to convincingly win this fight even if he is unable to KO Fulton by simply dominating the whole fight.
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Most of us are thinking that Inoue is going to win by KO as a possible outcome of this fight, but that still remains to be seen as he is fighting a champion.

As for Naoya Inoue, the way he fights, the way he strategized things, and the way he dominates his opponents, I think those knock out he did against his opponents are not even part of his plan and it's just that because of his high IQ in boxing that able to think of good strategies even in the middle of the fight, and his strongly built body that always cooperating with what he wants are executed in the right timing.

Inoue is just doing the supposed things that he really needs to do in the fight. If his opponent can't handle his punches and can't keep up with his speed, then a possible knockout is more likely to happen. As for Fulton, he is aware already of how Inoue fights and as a champion, he will surely do his best not to be surprised by Inoue's strength and speed that the fight will turn in favor of Inoue at most rounds.

Expect that the champion will give a good fight against Inoue. I'm looking forward to seeing a close match and not a landslide win by either one of them.

Whatever it is, we cannot really deny that Naoya Inoue got some pure power like a monster and an IQ that brings more chances on his side, no doubt why he is called by that name. Also, I pretty much agree with your sentiment that as long as his foe cannot keep up with his speed and strength, then the fight is indeed more likely to finish by a way of KO and TKO. But this time, I'm just curious how will this fight go as this is Inoue's debut at 122 and he is already facing the 2-belt champion who is already expecting this fight to happen.
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I think it will still be the style of Fulton vs the power of the Monster. Their skills sets might be equal at this stage. But the power will be at Inoue as we have seen that he has that knockout power. And for sure Fulton knows this one and going to try to avoid it as possible without getting hit.
That is an interesting matchup between Stephen Fulton and Naoya Inoue. As you mentioned, Fulton's style and Inoue's power will likely play a big role in the fight. While their skill sets may be relatively equal --but for me, Inoue's knockout power is certainly something to watch out for. I have this doubt and I don't think if you notice this too, Fulton will likely try to avoid getting hit by Inoue's power punches while using his own technical skills and footwork to try and outmaneuver him. It will be a test of Fulton's defensive abilities as well as his ability to counter Inoue's power with his own shots --it is worth noting that Fulton has shown his own punching power in his recent fights, so he should not be underestimated in this regard

Yeah, we will definitely be looking for Inoue's power in this division. Again, others might question if he still has it in at 122 lbs since he beat almost everyone at bantamweight with a KO. But since he steps up the plate, this will be his biggest test for far as he will be facing the champion at this weight class. But 4 lbs is not that any difference for boxers and for even average joe person. I mean we can increase our weight and remain the same or even in the case of Inoue he will have more power as there is no is issues as far as making the weight right now.

Exactly, he just moved up a bit and I don't think that will reduce his power and speed. Inoue is very ambitious and does not stay in just one division. He has big goals as a boxer, and his journey so far is already very impressive. He likes to add more accomplishments in new divisions.

Most of us are thinking that Inoue is going to win by KO as a possible outcome of this fight, but that still remains to be seen as he is fighting a champion.

The difference is not that big and I'm rooting that Inoue will be more comfortable at this weight because back at 118, it seems that he is already having some troubles on maintaining his weight mainly in the Inoue-Butler fight where he had to reduce more weights before the weigh-in just to fit the required weight. That said, he'll probably bring more troubles in his present weight class because of that.
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Most of us are thinking that Inoue is going to win by KO as a possible outcome of this fight, but that still remains to be seen as he is fighting a champion.

As for Naoya Inoue, the way he fights, the way he strategized things, and the way he dominates his opponents, I think those knock out he did against his opponents are not even part of his plan and it's just that because of his high IQ in boxing that able to think of good strategies even in the middle of the fight, and his strongly built body that always cooperating with what he wants are executed in the right timing.

Inoue is just doing the supposed things that he really needs to do in the fight. If his opponent can't handle his punches and can't keep up with his speed, then a possible knockout is more likely to happen. As for Fulton, he is aware already of how Inoue fights and as a champion, he will surely do his best not to be surprised by Inoue's strength and speed that the fight will turn in favor of Inoue at most rounds.

Expect that the champion will give a good fight against Inoue. I'm looking forward to seeing a close match and not a landslide win by either one of them.
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I think it will still be the style of Fulton vs the power of the Monster. Their skills sets might be equal at this stage. But the power will be at Inoue as we have seen that he has that knockout power. And for sure Fulton knows this one and going to try to avoid it as possible without getting hit.
That is an interesting matchup between Stephen Fulton and Naoya Inoue. As you mentioned, Fulton's style and Inoue's power will likely play a big role in the fight. While their skill sets may be relatively equal --but for me, Inoue's knockout power is certainly something to watch out for. I have this doubt and I don't think if you notice this too, Fulton will likely try to avoid getting hit by Inoue's power punches while using his own technical skills and footwork to try and outmaneuver him. It will be a test of Fulton's defensive abilities as well as his ability to counter Inoue's power with his own shots --it is worth noting that Fulton has shown his own punching power in his recent fights, so he should not be underestimated in this regard

Yeah, we will definitely be looking for Inoue's power in this division. Again, others might question if he still has it in at 122 lbs since he beat almost everyone at bantamweight with a KO. But since he steps up the plate, this will be his biggest test for far as he will be facing the champion at this weight class. But 4 lbs is not that any difference for boxers and for even average joe person. I mean we can increase our weight and remain the same or even in the case of Inoue he will have more power as there is no is issues as far as making the weight right now.

Not that far from his current division, but the fighters here, especially the current champ, are almost moving up like him, but Fulton decided to stay and face his challenge before doing the change.

We will see now if who between these two fighters/champions that will win and grab the belt,
The Monster or The current champ, still depends on how they will showcase their skills when
facing one another.
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I think it will still be the style of Fulton vs the power of the Monster. Their skills sets might be equal at this stage. But the power will be at Inoue as we have seen that he has that knockout power. And for sure Fulton knows this one and going to try to avoid it as possible without getting hit.
That is an interesting matchup between Stephen Fulton and Naoya Inoue. As you mentioned, Fulton's style and Inoue's power will likely play a big role in the fight. While their skill sets may be relatively equal --but for me, Inoue's knockout power is certainly something to watch out for. I have this doubt and I don't think if you notice this too, Fulton will likely try to avoid getting hit by Inoue's power punches while using his own technical skills and footwork to try and outmaneuver him. It will be a test of Fulton's defensive abilities as well as his ability to counter Inoue's power with his own shots --it is worth noting that Fulton has shown his own punching power in his recent fights, so he should not be underestimated in this regard

Yeah, we will definitely be looking for Inoue's power in this division. Again, others might question if he still has it in at 122 lbs since he beat almost everyone at bantamweight with a KO. But since he steps up the plate, this will be his biggest test for far as he will be facing the champion at this weight class. But 4 lbs is not that any difference for boxers and for even average joe person. I mean we can increase our weight and remain the same or even in the case of Inoue he will have more power as there is no is issues as far as making the weight right now.

Exactly, he just moved up a bit and I don't think that will reduce his power and speed. Inoue is very ambitious and does not stay in just one division. He has big goals as a boxer, and his journey so far is already very impressive. He likes to add more accomplishments in new divisions.

Most of us are thinking that Inoue is going to win by KO as a possible outcome of this fight, but that still remains to be seen as he is fighting a champion.
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I think it will still be the style of Fulton vs the power of the Monster. Their skills sets might be equal at this stage. But the power will be at Inoue as we have seen that he has that knockout power. And for sure Fulton knows this one and going to try to avoid it as possible without getting hit.
That is an interesting matchup between Stephen Fulton and Naoya Inoue. As you mentioned, Fulton's style and Inoue's power will likely play a big role in the fight. While their skill sets may be relatively equal --but for me, Inoue's knockout power is certainly something to watch out for. I have this doubt and I don't think if you notice this too, Fulton will likely try to avoid getting hit by Inoue's power punches while using his own technical skills and footwork to try and outmaneuver him. It will be a test of Fulton's defensive abilities as well as his ability to counter Inoue's power with his own shots --it is worth noting that Fulton has shown his own punching power in his recent fights, so he should not be underestimated in this regard

Yeah, we will definitely be looking for Inoue's power in this division. Again, others might question if he still has it in at 122 lbs since he beat almost everyone at bantamweight with a KO. But since he steps up the plate, this will be his biggest test for far as he will be facing the champion at this weight class. But 4 lbs is not that any difference for boxers and for even average joe person. I mean we can increase our weight and remain the same or even in the case of Inoue he will have more power as there is no is issues as far as making the weight right now.
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I think it will still be the style of Fulton vs the power of the Monster. Their skills sets might be equal at this stage. But the power will be at Inoue as we have seen that he has that knockout power. And for sure Fulton knows this one and going to try to avoid it as possible without getting hit.
That is an interesting matchup between Stephen Fulton and Naoya Inoue. As you mentioned, Fulton's style and Inoue's power will likely play a big role in the fight. While their skill sets may be relatively equal --but for me, Inoue's knockout power is certainly something to watch out for. I have this doubt and I don't think if you notice this too, Fulton will likely try to avoid getting hit by Inoue's power punches while using his own technical skills and footwork to try and outmaneuver him. It will be a test of Fulton's defensive abilities as well as his ability to counter Inoue's power with his own shots --it is worth noting that Fulton has shown his own punching power in his recent fights, so he should not be underestimated in this regard
Great observation, Fulton's counter is very crucial here. We all know that Inoue's power punches can bring him down, but with good anticipations and with proper training to prepare against a monster will be noticed here.

Fulton's acceptance to defend his belt is something that fans will love from him, if he will beat Inoue here
respect and more recognitions will be rewarded to this champ.
Inoue though has face one of the best counter puncher in Donaire in their first fight and yes, it was very close and Donaire doing some damage on Inoue. So I guess Inoue see the best counters already, although Fulton might be different as he can't be compare to Donaire's counter punching.

But still though, experience wise, Inoue should be all set to fight Fulton as whether what style will Stephen comes out in this fight.

And in the end, Inoue's boxing skills and his tools might be too much for Fulton to handle.
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I think it will still be the style of Fulton vs the power of the Monster. Their skills sets might be equal at this stage. But the power will be at Inoue as we have seen that he has that knockout power. And for sure Fulton knows this one and going to try to avoid it as possible without getting hit.
That is an interesting matchup between Stephen Fulton and Naoya Inoue. As you mentioned, Fulton's style and Inoue's power will likely play a big role in the fight. While their skill sets may be relatively equal --but for me, Inoue's knockout power is certainly something to watch out for. I have this doubt and I don't think if you notice this too, Fulton will likely try to avoid getting hit by Inoue's power punches while using his own technical skills and footwork to try and outmaneuver him. It will be a test of Fulton's defensive abilities as well as his ability to counter Inoue's power with his own shots --it is worth noting that Fulton has shown his own punching power in his recent fights, so he should not be underestimated in this regard
Great observation, Fulton's counter is very crucial here. We all know that Inoue's power punches can bring him down, but with good anticipations and with proper training to prepare against a monster will be noticed here.

Fulton's acceptance to defend his belt is something that fans will love from him, if he will beat Inoue here
respect and more recognitions will be rewarded to this champ.
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