[Boxing] Stephen Fulton vs. Naoya Inoue | WBC & WBO 122 lbs bout | July 25 - page 41.

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It's because these days, influence and politics inside the industry became a big hurdle before a fight could even have a discussion. Top Rank, DAZN, PBC and even Probellum is not giving any chance for a fight to happen if they are not going to organize it, it might happen though but it will be a long shot and probably, could take much a lot of time rather than discussing directly. Unlike what we have back in the day where entertainment is the priority because these promoters and boxers are nothing if nobody is supporting them.

SO much politics inside and this is the main reason on why there are interesting fights or bouts of certain boxers cant really happen due to this reason on where promoters are the ones who would really be making

the final decision whether the fight would be pushing through or not.News could really be that early but assurance that it would happen is never been guaranteed since anytime it could really be postponed
or sudden withdrawal or something like that.It isnt something new if we do speak about related to this.

If ever a certain fight is already that final or set out date then its good but im not anticipating unless it is really that nearly approaching.

Yes, that is the trouble of the boxing industry these days because promoters are too greedy making their own fight rather than giving the people the entertainment they wanted. To think, it's quite simple, for those boxers who got more to lose then it's expected that they should be favored in the table and have the bigger slice of the purse but even that easy is not enough to make the fight.

What we can do right now is to speculate some of the expected fight while also waiting for the final announcement whether the fight will push through or not.

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For us boxing fans, this is a great year because best of the best boxers in the world will have a match in this current year. There are 6 great fighters that will fight to become best of the best in their division and these boxers are Stephen Fulton Vs Naoya Inoue, Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia and David Benavidez vs Caleb Plant. I'm still waiting to see a deal between Crawford vs Spence. I hope that there will be a deal this year and many boxing fans will be happy if it will happen.

Anyway between Inoue and Fulton, I'll pick Inoue even if he will increase his weight. People think that moving in weight class doesn't affect things but I know that there will some effect to Inoe but still I'm sure that he can adapt the change and he can overcome that only problem. I saw them both training very hard and I hope that both of them will give a fight that will satisfy the audience and the fans.

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We cant really make out some conclusive approach that Inoue does have a huge advantage on here, we should really be thinking that this is a different weight division which means
that it is really that different but we know that changes in weight isnt really that much of an issue since it is really that impossible that Inoue wont really be making out some adjustment.
Both camps wont really be that confident considering that there's too much hype on this fight considering that Inoue is the favorite.

Not much adjustment is needed for Inoue here as he doesn't increase in weight a lot, and I'm pretty sure he's still comfortable with the super bantamweight division. Maybe in a higher weight division we should be concerned, but not here. It's just peanuts for Inoue, as his power is going to destroy Fulton if he wants to prove that he can beat Inoue and will go toe-to-toe.

I agree, the weight difference between bantamweight and super bantamweight is very slim, and since Inoue is a natural bantamweight, it's his first time moving up, so there should be no significant problems. I'm sure he can manage any minor issues and be 100% fit once the fight is scheduled.

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Quote from: Quidat on March 10, 2023, 07:59:17 PM

We cant really make out some conclusive approach that Inoue does have a huge advantage on here, we should really be thinking that this is a different weight division which means
that it is really that different but we know that changes in weight isnt really that much of an issue since it is really that impossible that Inoue wont really be making out some adjustment.
Both camps wont really be that confident considering that there's too much hype on this fight considering that Inoue is the favorite.

Not much adjustment is needed for Inoue here as he doesn't increase in weight a lot, and I'm pretty sure he's still comfortable with the super bantamweight division. Maybe in a higher weight division we should be concerned, but not here. It's just peanuts for Inoue, as his power is going to destroy Fulton if he wants to prove that he can beat Inoue and will go toe-to-toe.

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The advantage depends on how each boxer sees it. Inoue might be thinking that he has the advantage, but Fulton could also believe the same. We will only know who is better once they fight. However, based on the betting odds, Inoue is highly favored to win. Therefore, we can give him the overall advantage to win.

I think Inoue doesn't have an attitude of thinking he has the advantage. Even though his previous opponents are tagged as an underdog, he always takes those seriously without thinking he has the advantage over them. The same goes for fighting Fultin, Inoue will just do what he really is in the boxing ring. The excitement is much stronger since from defending titles he used to, Inoue will now be a challenger.

Correct that we will only see who will be the much better fighter at the day of the fight.

Yes, and this kind of attitude and mentality of some of the best boxers we have, they are not thinking of any advantage instead, they are going to see the fight just like any regular fight. They will have to train very hard and then try to go with their strategy.

So both of this boxers have that kind of attitude except that only one will have to win this fight. And most likely it will be Inoue because of the big difference - he has that heavy hands that almost knockout all of his previous opponents.

We cant really make out some conclusive approach that Inoue does have a huge advantage on here, we should really be thinking that this is a different weight division which means
that it is really that different but we know that changes in weight isnt really that much of an issue since it is really that impossible that Inoue wont really be making out some adjustment.
Both camps wont really be that confident considering that there's too much hype on this fight considering that Inoue is the favorite.

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Quote from: agustina2 on March 10, 2023, 05:02:23 PM

Quote from: Sanitough on March 10, 2023, 10:53:16 AM

The advantage depends on how each boxer sees it. Inoue might be thinking that he has the advantage, but Fulton could also believe the same. We will only know who is better once they fight. However, based on the betting odds, Inoue is highly favored to win. Therefore, we can give him the overall advantage to win.

I think Inoue doesn't have an attitude of thinking he has the advantage. Even though his previous opponents are tagged as an underdog, he always takes those seriously without thinking he has the advantage over them. The same goes for fighting Fultin, Inoue will just do what he really is in the boxing ring. The excitement is much stronger since from defending titles he used to, Inoue will now be a challenger.

Correct that we will only see who will be the much better fighter at the day of the fight.

Yes, and this kind of attitude and mentality of some of the best boxers we have, they are not thinking of any advantage instead, they are going to see the fight just like any regular fight. They will have to train very hard and then try to go with their strategy.

So both of this boxers have that kind of attitude except that only one will have to win this fight. And most likely it will be Inoue because of the big difference - he has that heavy hands that almost knockout all of his previous opponents.

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Quote from: Sanitough on March 10, 2023, 10:53:16 AM

The advantage depends on how each boxer sees it. Inoue might be thinking that he has the advantage, but Fulton could also believe the same. We will only know who is better once they fight. However, based on the betting odds, Inoue is highly favored to win. Therefore, we can give him the overall advantage to win.

I think Inoue doesn't have an attitude of thinking he has the advantage. Even though his previous opponents are tagged as an underdog, he always takes those seriously without thinking he has the advantage over them. The same goes for fighting Fultin, Inoue will just do what he really is in the boxing ring. The excitement is much stronger since from defending titles he used to, Inoue will now be a challenger.

Correct that we will only see who will be the much better fighter at the day of the fight.

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Nothing is unusual here, that's what the major bodies have been doing for decades now. And it's a win-win for them, so it just make sense.

For those who are not aware, they take it as a big deal lol. Should be nothing unusual in the first place.

Aside from that, if that's not the usual procedure, I don't see anyone from 122 that can be a good match for Inoue.

Moving forward, if those critics thinks that Inoue is having a shortcut then they don't trust Fulton to beat the so-called Japanese monster.

And maybe the boxing bodies wanted to create more stir in this division, and so granting Inoue to face their champion Fulton. The thing is that Fulton is more willing to test Inoue in this new weight classes.

I haven't follow this division though, but it seems that Fulton has face the best and so he has to test himself once again by fighting the bantamweight champion. The advantage might be in Fulton since he is the natural 122 lbs. But Inoue though could also be very comfortable at that weight class.

The advantage depends on how each boxer sees it. Inoue might be thinking that he has the advantage, but Fulton could also believe the same. We will only know who is better once they fight. However, based on the betting odds, Inoue is highly favored to win. Therefore, we can give him the overall advantage to win.

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Quote from: harizen on March 09, 2023, 07:55:46 PM

Quote from: Baofeng on March 09, 2023, 07:27:43 PM

Nothing is unusual here, that's what the major bodies have been doing for decades now. And it's a win-win for them, so it just make sense.

For those who are not aware, they take it as a big deal lol. Should be nothing unusual in the first place.

Aside from that, if that's not the usual procedure, I don't see anyone from 122 that can be a good match for Inoue.

Moving forward, if those critics thinks that Inoue is having a shortcut then they don't trust Fulton to beat the so-called Japanese monster.

And maybe the boxing bodies wanted to create more stir in this division, and so granting Inoue to face their champion Fulton. The thing is that Fulton is more willing to test Inoue in this new weight classes.

I haven't follow this division though, but it seems that Fulton has face the best and so he has to test himself once again by fighting the bantamweight champion. The advantage might be in Fulton since he is the natural 122 lbs. But Inoue though could also be very comfortable at that weight class.

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Quote from: Baofeng on March 09, 2023, 07:27:43 PM

Nothing is unusual here, that's what the major bodies have been doing for decades now. And it's a win-win for them, so it just make sense.

For those who are not aware, they take it as a big deal lol. Should be nothing unusual in the first place.

Aside from that, if that's not the usual procedure, I don't see anyone from 122 that can be a good match for Inoue.

Moving forward, if those critics thinks that Inoue is having a shortcut then they don't trust Fulton to beat the so-called Japanese monster.

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But some people didn't see it that way because for them, Inoue is taking a shortcut because he is now fighting Fulton directly on his debut at super-bantamweight when it is indeed normal already as it's not Inoue who did it first. Besides, he is favored by the governing bodies because of what he achieved at bantamweight, now he is just taking advantage of it.

Don't know why other people say that Naoya Inoue takes a shortcut when it's obvious that no one from lower rankings in the Super Bantamweight can match Inoue.

Isn't the fact that Inoue is unbeatable at the bantamweight division and no one from there can even come close to his level, is not enough to convince those people that he is already qualified to face a champion at the Super Bantamweight which is a much better fight to see than organizing a debut fight for him against a considered not even contender.

I want to ask those people who considered Naoya Inoue as taking a shortcut, aside from facing WBC and WBO champion Stephen Fulton and WBA and IBF champion Murodjon Akhmadaliev, who else in the Super Bantamweight is a good match for Naoya Inoue that is worthy to watch and make sense to organize?

We will see that, if Inoue is beaten in this weight class then most higher-seeds boxers in the super bantamweight division will want a piece of him. They will try, obviously. But I doubt, he will be beaten that far if ever it happens. The weight is not that far and I bet his chin is sturdy enough to take them.

This is really going to be a huge test on Inoue's side, even if he win this one, but if the fight is competitive enough then maybe we will see Inoue getting soften because of Fulton. And just maybe in the next fight it will be a very different Inoue that we are going to see, perhaps because of that previous fight, it might affect his attitude.

Quote from: danherbias07 on March 09, 2023, 08:20:15 AM

Regarding the shortcut, no, I don't think so too. There's not enough competition in his former weight class anymore and he had all the belts so I guess that's living proof of it. What will he do there? Get old and be beaten someday? Whoever said he did cut corners, that's just foolish.
I like how wise his camp is, keep on moving forward, that should be the goal. Break records.

I think it's because of his first fight, it is already for the championship belt, maybe it's being the benefit of being the unified champion in his previous divisions that the governing body is pushing him for another title fight even if it is in new division. Nothing is unusual here, that's what the major bodies have been doing for decades now. And it's a win-win for them, so it just make sense.

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Quote from: danherbias07 on March 09, 2023, 08:20:15 AM

We will see that, if Inoue is beaten in this weight class then most higher-seeds boxers in the super bantamweight division will want a piece of him. They will try, obviously. But I doubt, he will be beaten that far if ever it happens. The weight is not that far and I bet his chin is sturdy enough to take them.

Regarding the shortcut, no, I don't think so too. There's not enough competition in his former weight class anymore and he had all the belts so I guess that's living proof of it. What will he do there? Get old and be beaten someday? Whoever said he did cut corners, that's just foolish.
I like how wise his camp is, keep on moving forward, that should be the goal. Break records.

This is what I think as well, what was the point for Inoue to remain at his previous division? He had beaten all the great fighters on his division and there was no one worth to challenge him, so he had to move a division, and he was so dominant on his former division that even if we assume he may have some trouble adapting to this new weight we still think we can beat a champion on his debut fight, something which should be a testament of his skill.

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But some people didn't see it that way because for them, Inoue is taking a shortcut because he is now fighting Fulton directly on his debut at super-bantamweight when it is indeed normal already as it's not Inoue who did it first. Besides, he is favored by the governing bodies because of what he achieved at bantamweight, now he is just taking advantage of it.

Don't know why other people say that Naoya Inoue takes a shortcut when it's obvious that no one from lower rankings in the Super Bantamweight can match Inoue.

Isn't the fact that Inoue is unbeatable at the bantamweight division and no one from there can even come close to his level, is not enough to convince those people that he is already qualified to face a champion at the Super Bantamweight which is a much better fight to see than organizing a debut fight for him against a considered not even contender.

I want to ask those people who considered Naoya Inoue as taking a shortcut, aside from facing WBC and WBO champion Stephen Fulton and WBA and IBF champion Murodjon Akhmadaliev, who else in the Super Bantamweight is a good match for Naoya Inoue that is worthy to watch and make sense to organize?

We will see that, if Inoue is beaten in this weight class then most higher-seeds boxers in the super bantamweight division will want a piece of him. They will try, obviously. But I doubt, he will be beaten that far if ever it happens. The weight is not that far and I bet his chin is sturdy enough to take them.

Regarding the shortcut, no, I don't think so too. There's not enough competition in his former weight class anymore and he had all the belts so I guess that's living proof of it. What will he do there? Get old and be beaten someday? Whoever said he did cut corners, that's just foolish.
I like how wise his camp is, keep on moving forward, that should be the goal. Break records.

Don't forget that his weight might be more fitting at super-bantamweight because of what happened recently on the weigh-in, he needed some more time because his weight exceeded from what is needed. So, in that case, he might be more dangerous in this weight class if it turns out true that this is his natural weight.

And for that shortcut thing that became an issue now, where are they when Canelo fought Kovalev directly? Does that also mean that he took a shortcut? These folks who kept on telling that Inoue was handed a shortcut should know the facts and how does this industry works. That's quite normal for such boxers who are talented enough to defeat a much stronger guys even if it's in the upper division, as long as they are confident enough, they can always do it considering that they had a good run lately.

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Quote from: danherbias07 on March 09, 2023, 08:20:15 AM

Regarding the shortcut, no, I don't think so too. There's not enough competition in his former weight class anymore and he had all the belts so I guess that's living proof of it. What will he do there? Get old and be beaten someday? Whoever said he did cut corners, that's just foolish.
I like how wise his camp is, keep on moving forward, that should be the goal. Break records.

That's the best way to maximize his talent, by pushing his limits. I'm sure he still has a lot to prove in a higher division. With his power, he might likely achieve what Manny Pacquiao had achieved in the past, so he has to be aggressive in moving forward, and of course, he should beat Fulton first.

That's very important. We can say that he got the talent and the power, but he needed to win first against Fulton to prove that he really had that capability to follow the footstep of Pacquiao.

Moving to another division is indeed the right thing to do. He will try his power in this new weight and see
if he can strip and collect belts, I see the possibility that he also will try to unify the belts. Then if he succeeds,
he can try moving to another.

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Quote from: danherbias07 on March 09, 2023, 08:20:15 AM

Regarding the shortcut, no, I don't think so too. There's not enough competition in his former weight class anymore and he had all the belts so I guess that's living proof of it. What will he do there? Get old and be beaten someday? Whoever said he did cut corners, that's just foolish.
I like how wise his camp is, keep on moving forward, that should be the goal. Break records.

That's the best way to maximize his talent, by pushing his limits. I'm sure he still has a lot to prove in a higher division. With his power, he might likely achieve what Manny Pacquiao had achieved in the past, so he has to be aggressive in moving forward, and of course, he should beat Fulton first.

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Quote from: goinmerry on March 06, 2023, 06:58:45 PM

Quote from: mirakal on March 06, 2023, 05:12:48 PM

But some people didn't see it that way because for them, Inoue is taking a shortcut because he is now fighting Fulton directly on his debut at super-bantamweight when it is indeed normal already as it's not Inoue who did it first. Besides, he is favored by the governing bodies because of what he achieved at bantamweight, now he is just taking advantage of it.

Don't know why other people say that Naoya Inoue takes a shortcut when it's obvious that no one from lower rankings in the Super Bantamweight can match Inoue.

Isn't the fact that Inoue is unbeatable at the bantamweight division and no one from there can even come close to his level, is not enough to convince those people that he is already qualified to face a champion at the Super Bantamweight which is a much better fight to see than organizing a debut fight for him against a considered not even contender.

I want to ask those people who considered Naoya Inoue as taking a shortcut, aside from facing WBC and WBO champion Stephen Fulton and WBA and IBF champion Murodjon Akhmadaliev, who else in the Super Bantamweight is a good match for Naoya Inoue that is worthy to watch and make sense to organize?

We will see that, if Inoue is beaten in this weight class then most higher-seeds boxers in the super bantamweight division will want a piece of him. They will try, obviously. But I doubt, he will be beaten that far if ever it happens. The weight is not that far and I bet his chin is sturdy enough to take them.

Regarding the shortcut, no, I don't think so too. There's not enough competition in his former weight class anymore and he had all the belts so I guess that's living proof of it. What will he do there? Get old and be beaten someday? Whoever said he did cut corners, that's just foolish.
I like how wise his camp is, keep on moving forward, that should be the goal. Break records.

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So let's see if Fulton, being so confident that he is willing to travel to Japan can pull an upset. Or is Inoue really to big for this 122 lbs weight class that no one can match up against him.

Honestly speaking, neither of those 2 champions can match Naoya Inoue at the point of the Japanese monster's career.

He is really can consider the most dominant bantamweight and super bantamweight (118 lbs - 122 lbs) right now.

It's just that this time, he will face the champions at 122 that's why it became a big deal and probably the toughest opponent that Inoue will face. I hope Fulton can give Inoue a tough fight although in the end, I still see Inoue will win the match.

A good matchup between the current champ and the challenger who create a name unifying all the belts from his former division,
like what everyone's eyeing looking to see how Fulton will defend his belt.

More on how they will prepare and how they will execute their fighting strategy to take a good edge against each other, Fulton with a better experience from this division will try to use the edge.

While Inoue at his prime is expected to upset the current Champ!

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Quote from: btc_angela on March 08, 2023, 01:24:29 PM

So let's see if Fulton, being so confident that he is willing to travel to Japan can pull an upset. Or is Inoue really to big for this 122 lbs weight class that no one can match up against him.

Honestly speaking, neither of those 2 champions can match Naoya Inoue at the point of the Japanese monster's career.

He is really can consider the most dominant bantamweight and super bantamweight (118 lbs - 122 lbs) right now.

It's just that this time, he will face the champions at 122 that's why it became a big deal and probably the toughest opponent that Inoue will face. I hope Fulton can give Inoue a tough fight although in the end, I still see Inoue will win the match.

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Quote from: freedomgo on March 08, 2023, 04:56:55 PM

It's because these days, influence and politics inside the industry became a big hurdle before a fight could even have a discussion. Top Rank, DAZN, PBC and even Probellum is not giving any chance for a fight to happen if they are not going to organize it, it might happen though but it will be a long shot and probably, could take much a lot of time rather than discussing directly. Unlike what we have back in the day where entertainment is the priority because these promoters and boxers are nothing if nobody is supporting them.

SO much politics inside and this is the main reason on why there are interesting fights or bouts of certain boxers cant really happen due to this reason on where promoters are the ones who would really be making

the final decision whether the fight would be pushing through or not.News could really be that early but assurance that it would happen is never been guaranteed since anytime it could really be postponed
or sudden withdrawal or something like that.It isnt something new if we do speak about related to this.

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It's because these days, influence and politics inside the industry became a big hurdle before a fight could even have a discussion. Top Rank, DAZN, PBC and even Probellum is not giving any chance for a fight to happen if they are not going to organize it, it might happen though but it will be a long shot and probably, could take much a lot of time rather than discussing directly. Unlike what we have back in the day where entertainment is the priority because these promoters and boxers are nothing if nobody is supporting them.

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