Topic: [Boxing] Tommy Fury vs Jake Paul - page 3. (Read 1243 times)

Agree at some point. Woodley will enter the rematch with a goal and he needs to ensure that it's a must-win. If he will lose to Jake Paul again, that's an embarrassment on his part and it will hunt him for long. Jake Paul won't also be open for any 3rd match offer with him if he loses.

Get well soon to Tommy Fury. Not being negative here but it seems his serious medical condition is already enough reason for him to stop now his boxing desires.

I think Tommy made an announcement its due to a broken rib, and a bacterial chest infection. The chest infection could have been caused by the broken rib, odd that he specifically says bacterial infection though since that's usually implied.

Not sure how I feel about this, at least your probably going to get a better fight with Woodley, and Woodley gets his pay day, so he shouldn't care too much about getting a rematch. In fact, if Tyrone wins then you'd think there could be a potential for a rematch, and therefore more money for Woodley. I say we see a better fight from him this time, although he'll always be known as the "frozen one" to me, and demonstrated that when he had Paul hurt on the ropes.

If there's no serious medical condition that happened, Fury won't be pulling out. They have a thing to settle with Jake Paul and looks like it will take time to happen. I still hope they will face each other in the future to make it official who's the most dominant.

I second with you that Woodley might become more serious to make their result against Jake Paul even. I hope Woodley will give Jake Paul his first defeat and that will trigger a trilogy. The result of the first match is close. Woodley can make it better next time.

My last post here as all related to Paul vs Woodley has a separate discussion thread.

Surprised by the sudden change of event.

Woodley likes to revenge his split decision loss to Jake Paul just last August so I think he is the best replacement. This is the first time I saw a "professional" boxing match of the same event that will take place just a few months prior last fight.

Thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/jake-paul-vs-tyron-woodley-2-december-18-5375655

I really can’t believe that Fury pulled out of this fight. The legend of Jake Paul continues on… I guess we’ll see if Woodley taking the fight more seriously has a different result. Personally, I’d be a bit worried if I were Jake. He’s done a great job boxing so far, but I don’t know if giving fighters a second crack at him is a good idea. The money train stops for no man so I guess Jake had to fight someone…

https://www.skysports.com/boxing/news/12183/12488354/tommy-fury-pulls-out-of-jake-paul-fight-tyron-woodley-to-step-in-for-rematch-as-replacement-opponent

Tommy has fumbled it and pulled out of the fight. Jake will now be fighting Woodly in the rematch. He's even offered him an extra 500k if he can knock Jake out. Ballsy of Jake to offer such a bonus.


That was complete BS spouted by Dillon Dannis. He's obviously pretty butthurt over not being the one fighting Jake.


I guess you can debate whether it was a knock down but it was more of a stumble to me and he looked ok after it and bounced straight back.

Exactly as you mentioned. In this way, all of the show matches are to fill the money sack as a result of the advertising event. I stay away from betting as it is an exhibition match. I don't think it's a problem for me to have these kinds of events from time to time, it creates a nice ambiance. Jake Paul should have embraced this sport a little more and improved himself until now, it still looks awful. He will fight with zero technique in this match.

You definitely can't do anything if there's a script as that will be followed no matter what, that's why the game is called rigged because of that existence. hopefully it will not happen in this fight and we will witness a great match which would end up in a KO so there will be a winner.

That's exactly why they keep an exhibition fight. Most people think that the boxer who is more professional and experienced will definitely win.
But they script it out in such a way that either the match becomes draw or in some cases the opponent wins the match.
It's all just for money in my opinion. They know most will bet on the best one and then they end up losing their bets.

I'll be honest I saw like a two minute clip of John Fury shouting at the screen, and just repeating himself as everyone else tried to talk, and switched it off. I find John Fury absolutely horrible to listen to some times, its a shame because he occasionally has some decent insight into fighting. Occasionally.

I only think they don't actually believe in him because this is probably the most interest they've shown towards his career. As far as I know, they've shown up, but you've never seen John Fury shouting down a TV screen like that to other fighters that Tommy has fought, and while Tommy's resume might not be the best I'd say hes fought more proven fighters than Jake Paul. So, it comes off as a show for me instead of being said with any kind of substance. Tyson seemed quiet in the video I saw, though that might be because his old man is on one.

He's a real fighter, though you only need to look at his resume to see he hasn't really been tested, and even against supposedly weaker fighters he hasn't exactly set the world on fire. The thing is with steroids, it doesn't make the hulk over the night, you still have to put work in. Although, I'm not using that as a way to say its acceptable in professional sports. I'm not really sure on how accurate the steroid accusations are, I would expect Jake would probably test positive for other more recreational drugs than steroids. As far as I can see he hasn't really put a whole lot of weight on, or muscle mass not at an alarming rate anyway.

My question is; how can a professional boxer (because that's what he is...right?) refuse a drugs test, when surely a drug test is required by the commissioning bodies to sign the fight off? I know MMA fighters get tested even when they haven't fought for a while, since they're still under contract. Alright, I'm not going to pretend there aren't people cheating the system, because there has clearly been instances in the past, but I just can't fathom how a commissioning body would allow a fighter to just outright refuse. Surely, it has something to do with building the fight, and it'll come out that Jake actually has had a test?

I don't know if I'd go that far.  They sure seemed like they believed him when they were ranting like lunatics during the press conference.  Everyone keeps saying Tommy is a real fighter, so I'm expecting Jake to get KO'd.  There has been mounting evidence that Jake is on steroids and has been for some time now.  His latest refusal of drug testing seemed to only confirm that.  So to me, it's less about who is the better boxer and more about if skill can beat science.  I think it can and years of boxing training beats a few months of steroid use here and there, but I guess we'll see soon enough.

He gained a little respect from me for the Woodley fight. Although, I find myself disappointed in Woodley more than impressed with Jake. I know there was several allegations after the fight about terms being inserted into the contract to favour Jake, however to be honest the more I think about it the more likely this is MMA fans trying to save face. Woodley has always been a frustrating fighter to watch, since he has talent that much is clear, but he just freezes sometimes, and doesn't empty the gas tank when he needs too. Though, hes obviously had a decently successful career.

I think what fed those allegations or rumours whatever you want to call them, is the fact that Woodley actually did knock down Jake, however it wasn't a clear knock down. Jake fell into the ropes, however as far as I know that should count as a knock down according to the boxing rules. He looked like the ropes stopped him from falling rather than just resting on them after a decent punch taken.

I don't think even Tommy's father or half brother is convinced Tommy can do it. This is a massive money earner for Tommy, and to be honest if Tommy wins this its probably the most exposure he'll ever have. I might be wrong in this, I just think Tommy hasn't got his heart set on boxing like Tyson. Tyson seems to live, and breathe boxing, and when hes not training it plays into his mental health issues, whereas Tommy appears on various dating shows, and kind of just uses the boxing as something hes alright at. I think its the name pushing his boxing career rather than his ability.

Yeah, the hype naturally dies down when Joshua doesn't revenge his loss. I felt like Joshua lost a lot of momentum when he lost against Ruiz, but he gained a little bit of it back in the rematch. However, I'm not convinced that was Joshua's doing, instead I think it was Ruiz coming in unprepared after the fame he had after the win. He definitely looked a lot slower, and was half arsing things instead of chasing the fight like the first fight.

Personally, I'm always going to be interested in Fury vs Joshua. Its still some of the best heavyweights, and while I do think Fury puts on a masterclass against Joshua, and actually exposes a lot more of Joshua's weaknesses than we've seen. However, what makes that fight exciting isn't the boxing ability of Joshua per say, its his power. He needs to clear the cobwebs out of his skull, and go back to the Joshua who bites down on his mouth guard, and looks to knock his opponent out. He definitely didn't do that against Usyk, and he paid the price for it.

Before they announce this fight, they already build hype on Fury fighting Jake Paul, so the fans already are aware of this possibility, and there's more hype now because of the many opponents Jake Paul has faced and beat in the past, Tommy Fury now could be his toughest opponent and Paul is the underdog in this fight.

It should be obvious by his actions that he does not care that much about boxing at all and this is nothing more but a way to promote himself, and while some fans may not like this I am sure many professional boxers would like the opportunity to fight against him.

After all I am sure this fight is generating way more interest in social media and in monetary terms than many other fights that have better fighters above the ring, and since boxing is a business I am sure promoters and boxers alike are happy with the current state of things.

As soon as Mayweather smells money, he would be the first to call Jake

I just want to destroy myth that Tommy Fury is as good boxer as Tyson Fury, just because they are relatives. Tyson and Tommy are just half-brothers. I really doubt that their father John Fury put as much boxing experience and knowledge as in Tyson. For me Tommy is a tv star on the first place, and being a professional boxer is just an addition.

People just see they have identical surnames, in their wiki profiles is written professional boxer, Tommy has 7-0 record and instantly make conclusion that they are like Klitschko brothers.

I doubt they could access Mayweather as if he is a brother. I doubt they're even real friends. Mayweather won't probably drop a joystick because Jake is calling again for the third time in a day. Friendship is cheap. They've met on some occasions, chatted a little, faced Logan inside the ring, faced the media together, etc and they're calling each other friends. This is not the kind of accessibility Tommy has in Tyson.

I agree that both of them have identical chances of winning.

This is a natural thing because I've heard a quote that says that no matter how hard a gambler tries, the one who wins is still a dealer and this is proven that no matter how much you lose or win from a gambler, the dealer will reap a lot of wealth.

It's quite reasonable as you say but more accurately to say this is arranged it would be better to say this match is a family match that won't be violently injuring and subverting.

Jake could do the same. Somehow they Paul brothers are friends with Mayweather. I am quite sure that if Jake wont be that ass, he would easily get some help (with help of money) from Freddie Roach or Trevor Wittman. So that help from Tyson can be countered with is own champs.

Anyway, it is almost 3 weeks till the fight and it is impossible to raise a champion or perfect boxing machine. Both fighters boxing career began in 2018. They dont have a lot of boxing matches, and perhaps a lot of training. Tommy has fought really bad fighters, while Jakes opponent also could be better. I think that they both have identical chances to win.

Of course everybody who gets inside the ring in a professional match will have to have some consultation with the pros in the sport. They will have to receive training and guidance from the best. But it is simply different to have a real life biological brother who is a beast inside the ring, undefeated, and an active champion. You know, the advice, strategies, tips, etc are all given free-flowing and without any charge. Tommy could easily get access champion tips 24/7 from Tyson.

That's the fight that made me take an interest in him. Jake blitzed the other two but I expected Woodly to KO him fairly easy as he has - or had - knock-out power but Jake was the better fighter in that fight. If I had no idea who Jake was tuning into that match I wouldn't have thought he was a youtuber or not a pro boxer. With amateurs or newcomers to the sport you can usually tell a mile off that they're not very good or can't box. Jake looked a natural and from what I've seen of Tommy's fight I don't think there's much between them to be honest. Jake has impressed me whereas Tommy has just been ok, but he's clearly been fighting journeymen. This fight will see them both step up in my opinion. Pressure is all on Tommy though as well so I think that could play a part. If Jake gives him a good first round I'm sure Tommy will go back the corner looking pretty worried.


It's all down to the money at the end of the day, but the mandatory fights always throw a spanner in the works. If it wasn't for the Wilder rematch then the Fury/AJ fight would have happened. I'm sure it will still happen but a lot of people will lose interest if AJ keeps losing. There's not many fighters left for Fury though. Usyk will likely be next if he beats AJ again which he probably will. Then who? I'm kinda hoping Ngannou goes into boxing as I'd love to see him against one of the big boxing heavyweights. I think he can knock anyone out if he lands one of those bombs he swings from a different universe. He'd get out-boxed all day against someone like Fury, AJ or Wilder, but I'd like to see what happens if someone like them took one of his best shots.