Topic: [Boxing] Tyson Fury vs. Anthony Joshua - page 2. (Read 9561 times)
Hell, looking at the history of boxing on wikipedia, namely the statistics of heavyweights, I noticed something in common between Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua. They almost at the same time won the fights against Klitschko, which, in fact, put a fat point in his career. I thought that Klitschko was an unsurpassed fighter of his time, although it is not surprising that I thought so, given that he held the title for a total of 12 years. .. all the same, age takes its toll.
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What happens is that many of those that begin their careers in such a difficult sport begin as people that are very poor and then when they find themselves with so much success they do not know what to do with and they fall in all kind of temptations and the problem is that unlike other industries, like the music industry for example, they are athletes and they need their bodies to perform at the top level, and many times they end up destroying their bodies so there is no chance for a comeback story, it is rare for this to happen which should tell us how talented and out of the ordinary someone like Fury really is.
You said it perfectly, Sport psychology is more important and you need to get guidance from a sports psychologist and if Tyson Fury did that during his career he would have continued boxing without taking a break because of depression. I saw his speech about how he went into depression when all his goals were met when he defeated Wladimir Klitschko he had nothing else to accomplish and that was his ultimate goal in life and he went into depression after that.What happens is that many of those that begin their careers in such a difficult sport begin as people that are very poor and then when they find themselves with so much success they do not know what to do with and they fall in all kind of temptations and the problem is that unlike other industries, like the music industry for example, they are athletes and they need their bodies to perform at the top level, and many times they end up destroying their bodies so there is no chance for a comeback story, it is rare for this to happen which should tell us how talented and out of the ordinary someone like Fury really is.
So this is not only about losing, even if a boxer will win he can also feel depress? I never know that but I'm glad it's been shared. So probably the depression Wilder has been going through is more serious since this is coming from a big loss in their rematch and it might take time before he can accept which is the only way for him to recover from that depression.
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What happens is that many of those that begin their careers in such a difficult sport begin as people that are very poor and then when they find themselves with so much success they do not know what to do with and they fall in all kind of temptations and the problem is that unlike other industries, like the music industry for example, they are athletes and they need their bodies to perform at the top level, and many times they end up destroying their bodies so there is no chance for a comeback story, it is rare for this to happen which should tell us how talented and out of the ordinary someone like Fury really is.
You said it perfectly, Sport psychology is more important and you need to get guidance from a sports psychologist and if Tyson Fury did that during his career he would have continued boxing without taking a break because of depression. I saw his speech about how he went into depression when all his goals were met when he defeated Wladimir Klitschko he had nothing else to accomplish and that was his ultimate goal in life and he went into depression after that. What happens is that many of those that begin their careers in such a difficult sport begin as people that are very poor and then when they find themselves with so much success they do not know what to do with and they fall in all kind of temptations and the problem is that unlike other industries, like the music industry for example, they are athletes and they need their bodies to perform at the top level, and many times they end up destroying their bodies so there is no chance for a comeback story, it is rare for this to happen which should tell us how talented and out of the ordinary someone like Fury really is.
That's it, its way past what you want in sports now not excluding boxing. The fans needs to be impressed for sure but, it doesn't end with impressing the fans but winning with what ever tricks you've got within the context of the rules.
Both fighters are entertaining, especially Fury of course, so I would expect that the fans will be entertain in this fight. This is the biggest of their fight, winner here will be the best in the heavyweight so they are surely conditioning themselves more than they do in their previous fight. As per betting odds, Fury is the favorites but that doesn't mean he will win, who knows, AJ would give him his first loss.
That's it, its way past what you want in sports now not excluding boxing. The fans needs to be impressed for sure but, it doesn't end with impressing the fans but winning with what ever tricks you've got within the context of the rules.
he is too technical inside the boxing ring and counting points, whereas, most boxing fans want an aggressive style of boxing.
Man, this is not the same time as it used to be ... the days of hardcore fighting are in the past. The world was too small, its borders did not go beyond the TV and arena. Now the world is much bigger and more complex than before, and paid online streaming is bringing in more money than before. Therefore, over the past decade, all boxers have been defending their titles by gaining points ... I guess I'll watch movies about Rocky today. 
update from AJ,.
LATEST Anthony Joshua speaks out and appears to give update on Tyson Fury fight after ‘positive meeting’
Hopefully they can finalized it soon so people so people will stop speculate if this fight will happen or not.
LATEST Anthony Joshua speaks out and appears to give update on Tyson Fury fight after ‘positive meeting’
Hopefully they can finalized it soon so people so people will stop speculate if this fight will happen or not.
Fury is claiming that he is planning to fight twice this year just to be active and that is a problem with all the fighters as the pandemic is messing with their careers as well.
The team management of Tyson Fury has to find opponents that he could compete and try to sell the PPV. The fight against Anthony Joshua is a spectacle and it is a once in a life time event to have this kind of big fights and during the meantime these fighters needs to be active and i do not think there will be mandatory defense during pandemic and hence they can choose anyone they want just to be active and entertain his fans.Promoters are offering both $100 million each just for this fight, there's no better than this and it's once in a lifetime opportunity for both fighters.
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It's just so pity that although Mayweather is undefeated and was a number 1 pound for pound king, most people still does not believe that he has been the best in boxing and he is now of course. I guess he can't change the mind of the people as all he have is his undefeated record, in terms of entertainment, he obviously fail on that.
Mayweather is entertaining outside boxing and he is not showing his real character, he is a real hard worker who goes to the gym daily and teach his young students so does his entire family and they have a youtube channel if you are interested and i am sure you will be entertained It's just so pity that although Mayweather is undefeated and was a number 1 pound for pound king, most people still does not believe that he has been the best in boxing and he is now of course. I guess he can't change the mind of the people as all he have is his undefeated record, in terms of entertainment, he obviously fail on that.
. In terms of boxing it is hard to avoid getting hit and throughout his career he hardly got punched in the face and that is a huge aspect and his defense is a beauty.Tyson Fury is furious about the Anthony Joshua silence in making the fight happen because of obvious reason as you are still in the era of pandemic as new strains are creating issues. Fury is claiming that he is planning to fight twice this year just to be active and that is a problem with all the fighters as the pandemic is messing with their careers as well.
people doesnt like mayweather even with his achievement in boxing because of maybe his attitude other than his boxing style. he failed in terms of entertainment because he doesnt fight toe-to-toe, remember his running style? he is too technical inside the boxing ring and counting points, whereas, most boxing fans want an aggressive style of boxing. and that maybe the reason why he was hardly hit because he was always running.
Fury is claiming that he is planning to fight twice this year just to be active and that is a problem with all the fighters as the pandemic is messing with their careers as well.
The team management of Tyson Fury has to find opponents that he could compete and try to sell the PPV. The fight against Anthony Joshua is a spectacle and it is a once in a life time event to have this kind of big fights and during the meantime these fighters needs to be active and i do not think there will be mandatory defense during pandemic and hence they can choose anyone they want just to be active and entertain his fans.this pandemic brought a lot of changes in sports. and boxing is not excluded from it. and this is why we are seeing a lot of "exhibition" fights just to cater the boxing community.
Fury is claiming that he is planning to fight twice this year just to be active and that is a problem with all the fighters as the pandemic is messing with their careers as well.
The team management of Tyson Fury has to find opponents that he could compete and try to sell the PPV. The fight against Anthony Joshua is a spectacle and it is a once in a life time event to have this kind of big fights and during the meantime these fighters needs to be active and i do not think there will be mandatory defense during pandemic and hence they can choose anyone they want just to be active and entertain his fans. ~
It's just so pity that although Mayweather is undefeated and was a number 1 pound for pound king, most people still does not believe that he has been the best in boxing and he is now of course. I guess he can't change the mind of the people as all he have is his undefeated record, in terms of entertainment, he obviously fail on that.
Mayweather is entertaining outside boxing and he is not showing his real character, he is a real hard worker who goes to the gym daily and teach his young students so does his entire family and they have a youtube channel if you are interested and i am sure you will be entertained It's just so pity that although Mayweather is undefeated and was a number 1 pound for pound king, most people still does not believe that he has been the best in boxing and he is now of course. I guess he can't change the mind of the people as all he have is his undefeated record, in terms of entertainment, he obviously fail on that.
. In terms of boxing it is hard to avoid getting hit and throughout his career he hardly got punched in the face and that is a huge aspect and his defense is a beauty.Tyson Fury is furious about the Anthony Joshua silence in making the fight happen because of obvious reason as you are still in the era of pandemic as new strains are creating issues. Fury is claiming that he is planning to fight twice this year just to be active and that is a problem with all the fighters as the pandemic is messing with their careers as well.
Mayweather thought he was better than Muhammad Ali, can you believe that?
That's why he does not get a respect from great boxers and some fans.
Mayweather is a self proclaimed greatest fighter and you cannot even compare him to Muhammad Ali That's why he does not get a respect from great boxers and some fans.
. He is a troll and i have read his statement on how he is greatest which is absurd but i respect Mayweather for his defensive skills as he rarely gets punched in the face throughout his career and that is a big deal but he is playing a character to attract more attention and he is successful in it.~
Though bringing his stats that can be rewarded to him, ending his career with all the title and without any defeats, if this man only humble more fans will praise him, but he's not and he made more money by doing that, things that he choose to manage his fortune and to create more for hin bank checks!
There is a reason Floyd Mayweather changed his persona from pretty boy Mayweather to money Mayweather as he was not making money and he was not able to create interest so that fans watch the match and to be frank he is brilliant in understanding how to make money by making some tweaks to his personality to create interest in the fights and that is his success story.Though bringing his stats that can be rewarded to him, ending his career with all the title and without any defeats, if this man only humble more fans will praise him, but he's not and he made more money by doing that, things that he choose to manage his fortune and to create more for hin bank checks!
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we must remember that even if there are those that are considered the best boxers pound-by-pound and there is merit to that metric at the end of the day the best boxer is the one that can defeat the others no matter what and it is obvious that the heavyweight champion is always the best as there is no way someone from the lower divisions can stand up to him, and if they do not agree with it they can always try their luck in the ring and see if they can hold up to him.
The pound for pound list can be determined by a boxers technical skills and his creativity and in fight decision making and come out victorious. By your example Wilder could be considered one of the best boxers in history as there were comparison between Mike Tyson before he faced Tyson Fury. Lower division fighters always show pure technical skills than heavyweights. we must remember that even if there are those that are considered the best boxers pound-by-pound and there is merit to that metric at the end of the day the best boxer is the one that can defeat the others no matter what and it is obvious that the heavyweight champion is always the best as there is no way someone from the lower divisions can stand up to him, and if they do not agree with it they can always try their luck in the ring and see if they can hold up to him.
A real boxing fan would not agree with Mayweather self proclamation that he is the greatest boxer, maybe some would agree that he is better than Manny but not betting than Muhammad Ali. Boxing is suppose to be a warrior, not the kind of style he is showing as a boxer, just my personal thoughts only.
Personally I do not have a problem wit a defensive style, after all the purpose in any fight is to hit your adversary while not getting hit yourself, but I would not consider Mayweather to be even the best defensive boxer, also we must remember that even if there are those that are considered the best boxers pound-by-pound and there is merit to that metric at the end of the day the best boxer is the one that can defeat the others no matter what and it is obvious that the heavyweight champion is always the best as there is no way someone from the lower divisions can stand up to him, and if they do not agree with it they can always try their luck in the ring and see if they can hold up to him. Mayweather thought he was better than Muhammad Ali, can you believe that?
That's why he does not get a respect from great boxers and some fans.
Mayweather is a self proclaimed greatest fighter and you cannot even compare him to Muhammad Ali That's why he does not get a respect from great boxers and some fans.
. He is a troll and i have read his statement on how he is greatest which is absurd but i respect Mayweather for his defensive skills as he rarely gets punched in the face throughout his career and that is a big deal but he is playing a character to attract more attention and he is successful in it.Not new to him, he will say anything that will create impact to social media or to any medium that will bring noise for his name. Just like you mentioned he's a self proclaimed greatest fighter.
Though bringing his stats that can be rewarded to him, ending his career with all the title and without any defeats, if this man only humble more fans will praise him, but he's not and he made more money by doing that, things that he choose to manage his fortune and to create more for hin bank checks!
A real boxing fan would not agree with Mayweather self proclamation that he is the greatest boxer, maybe some would agree that he is better than Manny but not betting than Muhammad Ali. Boxing is suppose to be a warrior, not the kind of style he is showing as a boxer, just my personal thoughts only.
Mayweather thought he was better than Muhammad Ali, can you believe that?
That's why he does not get a respect from great boxers and some fans.
Mayweather is a self proclaimed greatest fighter and you cannot even compare him to Muhammad Ali That's why he does not get a respect from great boxers and some fans.
. He is a troll and i have read his statement on how he is greatest which is absurd but i respect Mayweather for his defensive skills as he rarely gets punched in the face throughout his career and that is a big deal but he is playing a character to attract more attention and he is successful in it.Not new to him, he will say anything that will create impact to social media or to any medium that will bring noise for his name. Just like you mentioned he's a self proclaimed greatest fighter.
Though bringing his stats that can be rewarded to him, ending his career with all the title and without any defeats, if this man only humble more fans will praise him, but he's not and he made more money by doing that, things that he choose to manage his fortune and to create more for hin bank checks!
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That is because we all love a comeback history about redemption, there was no doubt that he was the best heavyweight champion in the world but those problems outside the ring caught up to him and it seemed as if he will never recover from those problems but then he did and not only he became world champion again but he is still the best and right now there is only one person that can proclaim the opposite and that is Joshua and we are about to see who is right.
Everyone loves a comeback story and Tyson Fury just blown away every imagination on what a perfect come back story should be and other than that the only fighter i remember who came back after a decade of retirement was George Foreman but he turned to religion than drugs and yet was able to win the heavyweight belt in his older days.That is because we all love a comeback history about redemption, there was no doubt that he was the best heavyweight champion in the world but those problems outside the ring caught up to him and it seemed as if he will never recover from those problems but then he did and not only he became world champion again but he is still the best and right now there is only one person that can proclaim the opposite and that is Joshua and we are about to see who is right.
He has to believe in himself or he would never step into the ring with the same confidence and energy to survive each hit. Its not something that can be criticised as he needs that as part of his stance to do his job, he is fully confident in his moves and doesnt doubt or question himself in the moment so its not a mistake as such. Will history judge him the same way is a different question.
Mayweather thought he was better than Muhammad Ali, can you believe that?
That's why he does not get a respect from great boxers and some fans.
Mayweather is a self proclaimed greatest fighter and you cannot even compare him to Muhammad Ali That's why he does not get a respect from great boxers and some fans.
. He is a troll and i have read his statement on how he is greatest which is absurd but i respect Mayweather for his defensive skills as he rarely gets punched in the face throughout his career and that is a big deal but he is playing a character to attract more attention and he is successful in it. 
Mayweather thought he was better than Muhammad Ali, can you believe that?
Floyd Mayweather Jr. Explains Why He's Better Than Muhammad Ali
That's why he does not get a respect from great boxers and some fans.
Floyd Mayweather Jr. Explains Why He's Better Than Muhammad Ali
That's why he does not get a respect from great boxers and some fans.
He can't be serious about his proclaim because Muhammad Ali usually went for the tough opponents and came on top which is the reason why he said "I must be the greatest". Besides, he never fought for the sake of the money involved but for the love and the fans of the sport. Why would Mr Money matter the most (Mayweather) said he's better than Muhammad Ali?
Guys help out here.
I can't imagine if Mayweather's picture will be put during the introduction of big events in boxing.
We have Muhammad Ali's picture like this,
What do you think will be Floyd's picture?
I still can't forget this one, guy has no sportsmanship.
@hulla - I'm referring to Fury and not Wilder, that's why I said I compare Floyd and Fury for being undefeated because they are have the attitude and trains hard. But the comparison ended there because we all know that they have different styles and majority of us don't appreciate Floyd's run and gun tactic.
Definitely, but we can also trust him to win in any fight and as a bettor, we should bet on him to win, that's different when you are a fan and you are not gambling at all as you want a real fight where you see fighters are fully engaging against each other. Jump to: