[Boxing] Tyson Fury vs. Anthony Joshua - page 7.

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I believe what Iron Mike Tyson said about Tyson Fury to be true: "He is the best heavyweight champion of the world since myself. He is the man, I don’t care what anybody says." If Iron Mike says that who am I to say the opposite? He is going to win the match against AJ.

This is the thing those that are great can recognize greatness as well and it is obvious the best heavyweight of the past decade is Fury, if it was not because of his struggles outside the ring he would have been even more dominant which is in fact a story similar to what happened to Mike, if it was not because of all of his problems outside the ring he would have lasted at the top way longer, the difference is that Fury was able to make a comeback while Mike was never the same after his personal problems.

I like the comparison since Iron Mike recognize Fury he can see the level of this man and how he really dominates his era, and like what you said both have similar issues outside the ring.

The good thing with Fury he was able to come back and still have the same level of recognitions while Iron Mike wasn't, he was completely forgotten as he behave unnaturally. It would be a great fight between this two heavyweights proving and adding more recognitions while they are still active fighting.

It should happen, boxing fans are the reason why they are popular now, and therefore they should give this big fight.

Time to love the heavyweights than the lower division of boxing as they really have some bulls to risk their undefeated record and fighting the best in the business. Though AJ has one loss but people does not really think it's a real loss against a great fighter, people though AJ was just too complacent during the fight and he was able to regain redeemed himself, so still now one of the best boxer in his generation.

Two great fighter fighting is such a great treat for the fans, promoter can make big money in this fight because fans are satisfied, now, I can say that's the real definition of entertainment.

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Quote from: South Park on January 27, 2021, 12:50:56 PM

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I believe what Iron Mike Tyson said about Tyson Fury to be true: "He is the best heavyweight champion of the world since myself. He is the man, I don’t care what anybody says." If Iron Mike says that who am I to say the opposite? He is going to win the match against AJ.

This is the thing those that are great can recognize greatness as well and it is obvious the best heavyweight of the past decade is Fury, if it was not because of his struggles outside the ring he would have been even more dominant which is in fact a story similar to what happened to Mike, if it was not because of all of his problems outside the ring he would have lasted at the top way longer, the difference is that Fury was able to make a comeback while Mike was never the same after his personal problems.

I like the comparison since Iron Mike recognize Fury he can see the level of this man and how he really dominates his era, and like what you said both have similar issues outside the ring.

The good thing with Fury he was able to come back and still have the same level of recognitions while Iron Mike wasn't, he was completely forgotten as he behave unnaturally. It would be a great fight between this two heavyweights proving and adding more recognitions while they are still active fighting.

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Quote from: South Park on January 27, 2021, 12:50:56 PM

This is the thing those that are great can recognize greatness as well and it is obvious the best heavyweight of the past decade is Fury, if it was not because of his struggles outside the ring he would have been even more dominant which is in fact a story similar to what happened to Mike, if it was not because of all of his problems outside the ring he would have lasted at the top way longer, the difference is that Fury was able to make a comeback while Mike was never the same after his personal problems.

When Tyson Fury vacated his belt when he was at the top of the world surprised many and during that period Anthony Joshua and Deontay Wilder started gaining momentum and became super stars in his absence and Deontay Wilder never thought in his wildest dreams that Tyson Fury to return after a long gap even after going through these troubles and be competitive and now he cannot accept his defeat and the fight against Anthony Joshua will determine his worth as the best heavyweight post 2000.

Does it really need to be proven out? Its really clear and known on who has really the advantage.Wilder is good and even Joshua where these fights
did really get significant recognition into this sport and into this career but no one can just easily neglect out on how Fury do really able to
built up his reputation and popularity through his own fighting style and capabilities. Its clear that he would be the favorite on next fight which
it is not a surprising thing and about the probabilities of winning is high but AJ will really be giving some good fight.

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Quote from: South Park on January 27, 2021, 12:50:56 PM

This is the thing those that are great can recognize greatness as well and it is obvious the best heavyweight of the past decade is Fury, if it was not because of his struggles outside the ring he would have been even more dominant which is in fact a story similar to what happened to Mike, if it was not because of all of his problems outside the ring he would have lasted at the top way longer, the difference is that Fury was able to make a comeback while Mike was never the same after his personal problems.

When Tyson Fury vacated his belt when he was at the top of the world surprised many and during that period Anthony Joshua and Deontay Wilder started gaining momentum and became super stars in his absence and Deontay Wilder never thought in his wildest dreams that Tyson Fury to return after a long gap even after going through these troubles and be competitive and now he cannot accept his defeat and the fight against Anthony Joshua will determine his worth as the best heavyweight post 2000.

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Quote from: acquafredda on January 22, 2021, 11:23:28 AM

I believe what Iron Mike Tyson said about Tyson Fury to be true: "He is the best heavyweight champion of the world since myself. He is the man, I don’t care what anybody says." If Iron Mike says that who am I to say the opposite? He is going to win the match against AJ.

This is the thing those that are great can recognize greatness as well and it is obvious the best heavyweight of the past decade is Fury, if it was not because of his struggles outside the ring he would have been even more dominant which is in fact a story similar to what happened to Mike, if it was not because of all of his problems outside the ring he would have lasted at the top way longer, the difference is that Fury was able to make a comeback while Mike was never the same after his personal problems.

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Quote from: Fundamentals Of on January 26, 2021, 06:54:56 AM

Since you are aware that both fighters have high records in terms of wins by way of knockout, why do you think that this fight will not be ending with a KO?

Tyson Fury showed his punching power against Wilder in his last fight but if you look at both their records, Tyson Fury is a pure boxer who does not put full power in his punches unless he is forced to do so but Anthony Joshua try to knock the opponent out, it depends on the fight plan Tyson Fury comes up with and i am picking Tyson.

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Also, how did you come up with a judgment that Joshua has made a more impressive record than Tyson Fury in terms of their winning history and not in terms of their number of fights?

You need to understand that Tyson Fury was not active for a long time because he was undergoing depression while Anthony Joshua was building his reputation and career when Fury stopped boxing and hence new fans might think that Joshua have an impressive record Wink

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I'll consider myself betting on draw, it's likely possible since this is a first fight, promoters are sometimes corrupt, they want to make a controversy so they can again make huge money in the next fight, it's not new actually, the boxing sport is corrupt so we have to be more careful in putting our bet.

Placing a small bet on a draw is fine, if you look at the history of these controversial draws there is a common theme, all the fights taking place in the US ends up in a draw if it is a big fight and i do not remember any high profile fight going for a draw in England but anything is possible.

I don't consider the location of the fight in betting on a draw, my point was solely focus on how this two will perform in the ring during the actual fight, and though Fury is the heavy favorite, it's still possible that no one will get KO and they will just exchanging punches until the 12 rounds.

Exactly, venue doesn't matter, still on the hands of the (corrupt) judges,

. If this fight really turns out to be very difficult to see who is the winner, then it's possible that this could end up in the draw. And for sure a draw will have a good odds so good call by @stadus.

And thanks for bringing this up, maybe I will look at the Draw as well.

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If this fight will be a controversial fight, people will be more excited to see a rematch, another money making opportunity. Grin

Will only happen if the fight will end in a DRAW or a split decision, but if it's a KO win then there's no need for a rematch, unless stated in the contract and the loser of the fight will request for a rematch, however, less attraction compared to the first fight.

I read that they agreed to a two-fight deal, even if there's a knock out they deserve to have a two-fight deal and there's a possibility of a trilogy if they have it one for each other, with two great fighters in the caliber of Joshua and Fury they need two fights so we'll know who really is the best fighter between the two, there's should be domination on these two fighters to declare who is the greatest and the best.

If that's what's written in the contract, then it should be followed. However, the 2nd fight would be exciting if there's no KO that will happen in this fight, what would happen is the fans will heavily favored a boxer who have already KO his opponent, just like the suppose to be betting odds of Wilder vs Fury where Fury was a heavy favorite.

Its better if he posted up on where he do able to read about that two-fight deal.Im sorry that I cant able to search it up for you to tell that theres already a deal like of this.

Well, I wont be surprised though if they do set this one out as long it can really generate revenue in both parties then that what matter most.When it comes to fight outcome

then it will really create some argumentations when it do end up in a draw and the one who do able to take his opponent down.This is quite common though
and I don't see for it not to reach out on Trilogy thing but who knows on what would be the outcome looks like.

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If this fight will be a controversial fight, people will be more excited to see a rematch, another money making opportunity. Grin

Will only happen if the fight will end in a DRAW or a split decision, but if it's a KO win then there's no need for a rematch, unless stated in the contract and the loser of the fight will request for a rematch, however, less attraction compared to the first fight.

I'll consider myself betting on draw, it's likely possible since this is a first fight, promoters are sometimes corrupt, they want to make a controversy so they can again make huge money in the next fight, it's not new actually, the boxing sport is corrupt so we have to be more careful in putting our bet.

It is possible that this fight will end with a draw but that possibility to me is quite far. I am looking at a KO win by either of the fighters, probably by Tyson Fury.

If you look at both fighters' statistics, you will probably also consider betting on a KO. Both have high knockout rates. Tyson Fury has 21 of his 30 wins by way of knockout. Anthony Joshua, on the other hand, has 22 knockouts from his 24 wins. Those are very high figures.

KO is the best way to prove who won the fight. It is probably someone who will win this fight, not a draw.
They have a good history in Boxing, with high records of KO's made but I don't think this could be happening during their fight. I'll take Joshua as my favorite this time, I don't look into their experience(number of fights), I consider most on their winning history which is Joshua made such an impressive record.

Since you are aware that both fighters have high records in terms of wins by way of knockout, why do you think that this fight will not be ending with a KO? Do you have a particular basis in saying so?

Also, how did you come up with a judgment that Joshua has made a more impressive record than Tyson Fury in terms of their winning history and not in terms of their number of fights?

I would just want to know.

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Quote from: Karartma1 on January 25, 2021, 03:18:10 AM

Yeah, so true! I think we've all have had our fair share of glory when we were kids. During my childhood there were no phones, no internet, no distractions and every dispute or argument between us angry teenagers would have been solved with a nice fight. After that we were ready to become friends again, until the next one. Grin

Good old days, the fight now is different, it's mostly done in social media, more on reputation or your emotion will be hurt than your physical.

Kids today are clearly nuts!
Imagine they organized a big fight in their chat in Rome! Only for having fun. The news is in Italian but you can have it translated easily.
https://roma.corriere.it/notizie/cronaca/20_dicembre_07/io-ne-ho-sbracati-trecaccia-registi-maxi-risse-pincio-fbe42f90-3808-11eb-8ee8-3626ca43a0a8.shtml
This is probably the meet-me-outside-fight 2.0 to link it to what Karartma1 wrote.

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Quote from: stadus on January 25, 2021, 05:12:58 AM

I'll consider myself betting on draw, it's likely possible since this is a first fight, promoters are sometimes corrupt, they want to make a controversy so they can again make huge money in the next fight, it's not new actually, the boxing sport is corrupt so we have to be more careful in putting our bet.

Placing a small bet on a draw is fine, if you look at the history of these controversial draws there is a common theme, all the fights taking place in the US ends up in a draw if it is a big fight and i do not remember any high profile fight going for a draw in England but anything is possible.

I don't consider the location of the fight in betting on a draw, my point was solely focus on how this two will perform in the ring during the actual fight, and though Fury is the heavy favorite, it's still possible that no one will get KO and they will just exchanging punches until the 12 rounds.

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Quote from: Viscore on January 24, 2021, 06:32:32 PM

If this fight will be a controversial fight, people will be more excited to see a rematch, another money making opportunity. Grin

Will only happen if the fight will end in a DRAW or a split decision, but if it's a KO win then there's no need for a rematch, unless stated in the contract and the loser of the fight will request for a rematch, however, less attraction compared to the first fight.

I read that they agreed to a two-fight deal, even if there's a knock out they deserve to have a two-fight deal and there's a possibility of a trilogy if they have it one for each other, with two great fighters in the caliber of Joshua and Fury they need two fights so we'll know who really is the best fighter between the two, there's should be domination on these two fighters to declare who is the greatest and the best.

If that's what's written in the contract, then it should be followed. However, the 2nd fight would be exciting if there's no KO that will happen in this fight, what would happen is the fans will heavily favored a boxer who have already KO his opponent, just like the suppose to be betting odds of Wilder vs Fury where Fury was a heavy favorite.

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Quote from: stadus on January 25, 2021, 05:12:58 AM

I'll consider myself betting on draw, it's likely possible since this is a first fight, promoters are sometimes corrupt, they want to make a controversy so they can again make huge money in the next fight, it's not new actually, the boxing sport is corrupt so we have to be more careful in putting our bet.

Placing a small bet on a draw is fine, if you look at the history of these controversial draws there is a common theme, all the fights taking place in the US ends up in a draw if it is a big fight and i do not remember any high profile fight going for a draw in England but anything is possible.

Quote from: coin-investor on January 25, 2021, 07:44:22 AM

I read that they agreed to a two-fight deal, even if there's a knock out they deserve to have a two-fight deal and there's a possibility of a trilogy if they have it one for each other, with two great fighters in the caliber of Joshua and Fury they need two fights so we'll know who really is the best fighter between the two.

The first fight will determine who is the superior talent, the boxing promoters usually goes for multiple fights to reap the maximum benefit and usually the rematch will have a much bigger audience and it is good for the fans as we are waiting for these battles for a long time.

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Quote from: freedomgo on January 25, 2021, 03:07:47 AM

Quote from: Viscore on January 24, 2021, 06:32:32 PM

If this fight will be a controversial fight, people will be more excited to see a rematch, another money making opportunity. Grin

Will only happen if the fight will end in a DRAW or a split decision, but if it's a KO win then there's no need for a rematch, unless stated in the contract and the loser of the fight will request for a rematch, however, less attraction compared to the first fight.

I read that they agreed to a two-fight deal, even if there's a knock out they deserve to have a two-fight deal and there's a possibility of a trilogy if they have it one for each other, with two great fighters in the caliber of Joshua and Fury they need two fights so we'll know who really is the best fighter between the two, there's should be domination on these two fighters to declare who is the greatest and the best.

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Quote from: Fundamentals Of on January 25, 2021, 07:16:11 AM

Quote from: stadus on January 25, 2021, 05:12:58 AM

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Quote from: Viscore on January 24, 2021, 06:32:32 PM

If this fight will be a controversial fight, people will be more excited to see a rematch, another money making opportunity. Grin

Will only happen if the fight will end in a DRAW or a split decision, but if it's a KO win then there's no need for a rematch, unless stated in the contract and the loser of the fight will request for a rematch, however, less attraction compared to the first fight.

I'll consider myself betting on draw, it's likely possible since this is a first fight, promoters are sometimes corrupt, they want to make a controversy so they can again make huge money in the next fight, it's not new actually, the boxing sport is corrupt so we have to be more careful in putting our bet.

It is possible that this fight will end with a draw but that possibility to me is quite far. I am looking at a KO win by either of the fighters, probably by Tyson Fury.

If you look at both fighters' statistics, you will probably also consider betting on a KO. Both have high knockout rates. Tyson Fury has 21 of his 30 wins by way of knockout. Anthony Joshua, on the other hand, has 22 knockouts from his 24 wins. Those are very high figures.

KO is the best way to prove who won the fight. It is probably someone who will win this fight, not a draw.
They have a good history in Boxing, with high records of KO's made but I don't think this could be happening during their fight. I'll take Joshua as my favorite this time, I don't look into their experience(number of fights), I consider most on their winning history which is Joshua made such an impressive record.

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Quote from: Fundamentals Of on January 25, 2021, 07:16:11 AM

Quote from: stadus on January 25, 2021, 05:12:58 AM

Quote from: freedomgo on January 25, 2021, 03:07:47 AM

Quote from: Viscore on January 24, 2021, 06:32:32 PM

If this fight will be a controversial fight, people will be more excited to see a rematch, another money making opportunity. Grin

Will only happen if the fight will end in a DRAW or a split decision, but if it's a KO win then there's no need for a rematch, unless stated in the contract and the loser of the fight will request for a rematch, however, less attraction compared to the first fight.

I'll consider myself betting on draw, it's likely possible since this is a first fight, promoters are sometimes corrupt, they want to make a controversy so they can again make huge money in the next fight, it's not new actually, the boxing sport is corrupt so we have to be more careful in putting our bet.

It is possible that this fight will end with a draw but that possibility to me is quite far. I am looking at a KO win by either of the fighters, probably by Tyson Fury.

If you look at both fighters' statistics, you will probably also consider betting on a KO. Both have high knockout rates. Tyson Fury has 21 of his 30 wins by way of knockout. Anthony Joshua, on the other hand, has 22 knockouts from his 24 wins. Those are very high figures.

This is the biggest fight probably of these two fighters, the kind of respect here is different than fighter an unknown fighter. It could be a fight of the year and therefore they will be more careful, less aggressive maybe and if that will happen then draw is possible. It's hard to based on the KO rate because Wilder has a high KO, probably higher than these two fighters and yet the first fight between Fury turns out a draw.

Just for the record, Wilder was 40 wins, 39 from KO in the first fight.

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Quote from: stadus on January 25, 2021, 05:12:58 AM

Quote from: freedomgo on January 25, 2021, 03:07:47 AM

Quote from: Viscore on January 24, 2021, 06:32:32 PM

If this fight will be a controversial fight, people will be more excited to see a rematch, another money making opportunity. Grin

Will only happen if the fight will end in a DRAW or a split decision, but if it's a KO win then there's no need for a rematch, unless stated in the contract and the loser of the fight will request for a rematch, however, less attraction compared to the first fight.

I'll consider myself betting on draw, it's likely possible since this is a first fight, promoters are sometimes corrupt, they want to make a controversy so they can again make huge money in the next fight, it's not new actually, the boxing sport is corrupt so we have to be more careful in putting our bet.

It is possible that this fight will end with a draw but that possibility to me is quite far. I am looking at a KO win by either of the fighters, probably by Tyson Fury.

If you look at both fighters' statistics, you will probably also consider betting on a KO. Both have high knockout rates. Tyson Fury has 21 of his 30 wins by way of knockout. Anthony Joshua, on the other hand, has 22 knockouts from his 24 wins. Those are very high figures.

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Quote from: freedomgo on January 25, 2021, 03:07:47 AM

Quote from: Viscore on January 24, 2021, 06:32:32 PM

If this fight will be a controversial fight, people will be more excited to see a rematch, another money making opportunity. Grin

Will only happen if the fight will end in a DRAW or a split decision, but if it's a KO win then there's no need for a rematch, unless stated in the contract and the loser of the fight will request for a rematch, however, less attraction compared to the first fight.

I'll consider myself betting on draw, it's likely possible since this is a first fight, promoters are sometimes corrupt, they want to make a controversy so they can again make huge money in the next fight, it's not new actually, the boxing sport is corrupt so we have to be more careful in putting our bet.

Quote from: Karartma1 on January 25, 2021, 03:18:10 AM

Yeah, so true! I think we've all have had our fair share of glory when we were kids. During my childhood there were no phones, no internet, no distractions and every dispute or argument between us angry teenagers would have been solved with a nice fight. After that we were ready to become friends again, until the next one. Grin

Good old days, the fight now is different, it's mostly done in social media, more on reputation or your emotion will be hurt than your physical.

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So, we know that these two guys will fight somewhere in the future but we do not know when, nonetheless they are fighting already via social media platforms. It reminds me when we were young kids and when we had arguments we were so bold to say to our opponent: "meet me outside in the next few days, I will smash you!" Grin

Lol, I remember this line when I was a kid and having some troubles with my classmate in school.

These two fighters are very interesting to watch, they had almost the same stat which means it is hard to predict who will win this match. Both are aggressive fighters and it seems they have a good fight. For now, let us wait when this match will happen and I know a lot of bookies I guess preparing as of now for this fight that places to bet.

Yeah, so true! I think we've all have had our fair share of glory when we were kids. During my childhood there were no phones, no internet, no distractions and every dispute or argument between us angry teenagers would have been solved with a nice fight. After that we were ready to become friends again, until the next one. Grin

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Quote from: Viscore on January 24, 2021, 06:32:32 PM

If this fight will be a controversial fight, people will be more excited to see a rematch, another money making opportunity. Grin

Will only happen if the fight will end in a DRAW or a split decision, but if it's a KO win then there's no need for a rematch, unless stated in the contract and the loser of the fight will request for a rematch, however, less attraction compared to the first fight.

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