Topic: [Boxing]:Crawford vs. Kavaliauskas (Read 1827 times)

Maybe boxing is not that famous that's why it wasn't shown on your local TV?

Anyways, thanks for the comments, I do hope that some boxing pundits won in this match. Clearly it was not really that close and  it's just a matter of time which round Kava will be KO. So for those who got their prediction right, congrats, Closing this thread now.

Looking forward for Crawford vs Spence. 

It's sad to see that my countryman lost, but honestly, he didn't had much chances and he needed little miracle to win. Now Kavaliauskas and Crawford are different level fighters, but I hope that in future he will get another opportunity to fight for belt. Anyway, this fight was historic for our country boxing. It's only shame that none of TV channels didn't show it on TV...

Spence or Porter, either of them would be a good match but Spence is the probable opponent for Crawford since the latter has a belt to defend. Hope their promoters would set aside their pride and let their fighters give what is appropriate for them and besides Crawford is not getting younger.

^^ So Arum did a nice set up match for Crawford then, they have promoted the fight as if Kavaliauskas has a chance against Crawford. But this guy has nothing to offer, at least in the first few rounds. I guess when he felt Crawford's power, he just gave up and just think of his nice pay check. Good job Arum, now, I do hope that Arum will set him up against Spence. Because he said he is willing to sit down and talk with Al Haymon. Crawford is already 31, and as a prize fighter, he could be losing his speed every year.

Kavaliauskas fought like an old man without hunger to win and desire to conquer an opponent with a huge name. He had the opportunity when he hurt Crawford several times but never did he even tried to follow it up with huge blows. Even after that knock down, which was unfortunately counted as a mere slip by the referee, Kavaliauskas did not even raise his aggressiveness and try to go for the kill. He let the opportunity slip away and he let Crawford recover fully and gain back his confidence.

I agree that it was an even match only as far as the numbers are concerned.

I wouldn't say that this is a tactical fight, this is more of a cherry pick by Bob Arum to look like Crawford is really that good. As @Baofeng has pointed out, good for three rounds and after that Crawford shows us what he is the champion and elite level.

Kavaliauskas is not on Bud Crawford's level, in paper it looks like he has a chance, but we have seen Crawford psychically breaking him down. He was supposed to be the stronger of the two, but Crawford just push him. And when the pressure starts to mount, Crawford did go for the kill.

It's a tactical fight for Crawford here, he have hit with an  overhand right in the third round if I'm not mistaken but the referee rule it out as a slipped. But after that, he has read Kavaliauskas, just looked at how he counters him with his lead right. It was just a jab, but it was that accurate.

He needs to really go and fight the big boys on the other fence Crawford vs Spence is what boxing fans wanted to see.

It's over, Crawford retained his belt.

Kava was only good in the first 3 rounds, and after that, Crawford took over, round ninth stoppage. Would like to see Crawford vs Porter or Crawford vs Spence, it will be explosive, lol.

Tonight Im finna beat this guys' ass by Knockout!!

Final weigh in and presser:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7ipcU9C46s

So let's see how Crawford will work out Kavaliauskas here. Bud is the overwhelming favourite here and I do hope that if he won, he should take the risk, or at least Bob Arum will allow him to fight other 147 champions under PBC to settle who is the best in this era.

1. You just said you were following boxing since the 80's. So I thought you know the mando rules? Anyway, most boxing followers are casuals, so i'll explain. Every mandatory fighter will get a crack at the title. Canelo was stripped of the IBF belt for failing to fight Sergiy Derevyanchenko. Mandatory will fight for the vacant belt. So Sergiy Derevyanchenko fought against GGG for the vacant belt.

Crawford will lose his lone belt if he won't fight Kavaliauskas.  

2. I don't know what your point is. Not all boxing followers are purists. My point was actually referring to your claim that Bob is protecting Bud at all cost. And I said all promoters protect their fighters (unless there are better deals). And that's what Al is doing on Spence and his other welters. Avoid Bud at all cost. You cannot hear nor read on Haymon and Spence and Pacman (under PBC years) challenging Bud. But you can find many of that on Bud and Arum challenging Spence.
  
3. We both agree to disagree on Bud-Errol odds. But I am very very confident Bud will be favorite against Spence. We can bet thru escrow if you want. I tried to google it on their odds. First answer gives Crawford a -125, which means Spence is the underdog.

4. Mate no offense but clearly you haven't followed boxing enough. But that's okay. No one is required to. Here are some of the stuffs you missed. You were too wrong on the names you mentioned. They fought fighters outside TR.

A. Floyd Mayweather left TR because he don't want any part of then WBO champion Antonio Margarito. Floyd was offered the largest payday but refused and paid Bob to buyout his contract. And Floyd's last fight before this issue was against Zab Judah, a Don King fighter. It was a joint promotion between TR and DKP under HBO pay-per view.

B. Oscar dela Hoya's career was ending when he left Bob and they were actually in good terms. Dela Hoya founded GBP when he was still under the TR banner. And Oscar fought many non TR fighters under DKP, GSP, etc.

C. Mikey Garcia leaving Bob was not a case of not fighting outside TR fighters. It was a claim that Mikey felt he deserved a bigger contract (money). It was even addressed and after more than 2 years of inactivity TR promoted his tune up. Mikey only left TR after the contract expired.

5. People should stop being one-sided. I am not a big fan of Arum and these greedy promoters. Fighters managements are the ones responsible negotiating better deals and squeeze money as much as possible, just like what Floyd Jr did to boxing and Connor to UFC.

An example that Arum is not really the worst snake everyone believe is his $100+ million promotional offer to Tyson Fury. Someone tells me how much Wilder is receiving per fight? Wilder's 40+ fight is not even worth $10 million in total.  

  

Bumping this thread:

recent odds at sportsbet.io



Not very attractive for Terence Crawford though. I think he really needs to go out and fight other fighters out there.


https://www.boxingscene.com/crawford-im-best-147-ill-fight-all-those-pbc-guys--144788

Well I do hope that when he wins this fight, Arum should sit down and talks for a potential showdown with PBC boxers, otherwise we won't see the best fighter in WW division.

Crawford is faster as well, and that is his advantage, his opponent has a pretty decent record as well but he was not tested against the best in boxing.
I like crawford because he beat Horn who rob the Pacman in Australia and I think that guy career was already over and has retired already.
Whoever wins this fight might have a shot with Pacman too but I am pretty sure this will end up a one sided decision.

I am pretty sure that Kavaliauskas is very lucky getting this shot, and his past fight with Robinson is not a win but a draw so I don't think that this is a shot in getting him a title match, in my opinion, his recent match even if its all a win is not so good enough,

Even though Kavaliauskas has power in his punch and he can surely punch for that case, I think Crawford can surely make this fight and gets this job done, I think that Crawford has more defensive ability than Kavaliaukas and has proven that he can hit hard, And at the age of 32 he is still in his prime, So Terence Crawford can win this fight.

With Mayweather out in the selection for Manny's next opponent, Spence Jr is what the fight fans want too but i doubt if Team Pacman would bite the offer if there is. Pacman was exposed on that Thurman fight, in the latter round he ran out of gas and these young fighters like Spence Jr would exploit that and besides Manny will be a year older by next year.

The most healthy opponent for Manny for now is Mickey Garcia or Amir Khan, not the fans wanted but if your are in the family of Manny, sure is you will pray for this.

Spence would be a good match for these young boxers like Crawford and Kavalauskas. As what you have said, I agree that Manny would bail to fight crawford but if it was Kavalauskas then it would be a different story.

As much as possible they want a game to be hype as that would help to generate tickets to increase their income.
We know that Manny is humble but Thurman was smart to know how to hype so that fight was really a success although not as successful as May-pac 1.

People are too emotional, they tend to judge the boxer based on his attitude not on his stats or skills, but real gamblers look at the skills of the boxers and one reason why a lot of bettors loses because they are naive when it comes to analyzing the game.

1. Did you know that Derevyanchenko was Canelo's mandatory for the IBF MW belt? But did he get a crack at Canelo? So your argument that every mandatory challenger will always get a crack at the champion is flawed.

2. Oh please don't throw that argument to me, LOL. I've been following boxing since mid 80's when I was still a little boy, specially when I saw a sports magazine between Leonard and Hagler. When do you guys follow boxing? When Pacquiao become a household name? LOL. As a Pinoy, have you seen Rolando Navarette fights during his prime? Not on youtube of today, but watching it on a black and white TV back then. I bet you didn't because most of you Pinoy followers of Pacquiao wasn't even born yet. LOL.

3. Errol Spence will be the favorite against Crawford. Pacquiao is different story.

4. If you have been following boxing, I'm sure you heard about boxing politics? Did you know that Floyd and Dela Hoya used to be under Arum? and as of late Mickey Garcia bolted out because they can't fight anyone unless it's within Arum's stable?

5. Potential is the keyword here, as boxing fans I wanted to see them fight. But as I have said, there is boxing politics here, Arum wanted to keep all the money that's why he is setting fights within his stable of fighters. The only way for them to fight is when there is big money in the table, just like what Floyd vs Manny back then, and maybe they can step aside everything. But as this point, Crawford and Spence need to show more.

Gone are the days when champion to champion can face in the ring regardless on who's promotion they are under, in the past we have boxers becoming the undisputed king in one division, there should always be this kind of matches if the two champions haven't face on the ring, and they are equal in record and ticket appeal, because this is what boxing fans want.

1. Kavaliauskas is the mandatory of the WBO belt. So he will get a crack of that that WBO title no matter who the champion is.
2. If you followed boxing for a while you should know that every promoter will do everything for their interest.
3. Do you think Errol Spence and Pacman are favorites against Crawford?
4. If your answer in #3 is no then why will Arum and Crawford not want to fight Pacman and Crawford Spence?
5. Have you watched and read news on the potential Crawford-Spence? You see who's talking and wanted the deal to make the fight happen? Who's silent? Who's the fighter that answers "you talk to my promoter..."?