[Boxing]:Crawford vs. Kavaliauskas - page 5.

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Quote from: nydiacaskey01 on October 17, 2019, 07:03:12 PM

Didn’t realize Crawford is now one of the cash cows of Bob Arum, must have been hard for him when Manny left and go for another promoter. Its not going to be a walk in the park for Crawford on this fight but looking at the last 3 fights of Kavaliauskas and Crawfords last 3 fights as well, Crawford has a high chance of winning here.

Arum's other cash cow? Lomachenko.

And that's why Arum is very protective of Crawford, it's understandable that after Manny leaving him and going to Haymon's he needs to find another fighter in the persona of Crawford to be his next big fighters coming from the Top Rank stable. And I'm sure with Arum's experience putting fighters to be on the p4p list, which Crawford is already in the top 3, he won't missed the cash flow when Manny is still with him. But I agree that Crawford chances of winning is like 90% here.

Arom have that mindset and impressions to Crawford, definitely the trust for the fighter to become one of his top pick. Probably this man would replaced Manny's legacy as Arum had been promoting great fighters in history, who've been so popular for many years. Manny's time has ended up with Arum, so now it another journey for him to find a new set of asset to hit the knock outs on the ring side.

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Quote from: nydiacaskey01 on October 17, 2019, 07:03:12 PM

Didn’t realize Crawford is now one of the cash cows of Bob Arum, must have been hard for him when Manny left and go for another promoter. Its not going to be a walk in the park for Crawford on this fight but looking at the last 3 fights of Kavaliauskas and Crawfords last 3 fights as well, Crawford has a high chance of winning here.

Arum's other cash cow? Lomachenko.

And that's why Arum is very protective of Crawford, it's understandable that after Manny leaving him and going to Haymon's he needs to find another fighter in the persona of Crawford to be his next big fighters coming from the Top Rank stable. And I'm sure with Arum's experience putting fighters to be on the p4p list, which Crawford is already in the top 3, he won't missed the cash flow when Manny is still with him. But I agree that Crawford chances of winning is like 90% here.

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Quote from: Oasisman on October 17, 2019, 07:02:07 AM

Quote from: TravelMug on October 17, 2019, 06:10:46 AM

@Oasisman - I agree mate, boxing politics really hinders the mega fight that boxing fans should enjoy. If ever they fight in the future, I think Crawford will have the advantage, imho. The audience has been building up already, it's just the promoters doesn't want it at this point and I'm sure those two are eager to face each other as well.

The promoters still wants to maximize the opportunity to monetize these two fighters. Of course a lot of people will watch their respective fights against different opponent, so fans could easily speculate and study the possibilities when these two meet in the same ring, and adding up the hype as well.

If you remember how they built up the Pacquiao Mayweather fight, both are out of their prime, but still it became the "super bowl" of boxing. That's a world class marketing lol.

That's why both promoters and fighters really needed for hype and marketing to be the next super bowl. But if they are facing cherry pick opponents, like Crawford did here or Spence on Mikey Garcia, then it may not come until both fighter are over the hill.

As compare to Pacquaio who took the boxing world by storm and building the hype every time he won convincingly. That set up the biggest fight ever in boxing history.

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Didn’t realize Crawford is now one of the cash cows of Bob Arum, must have been hard for him when Manny left and go for another promoter. Its not going to be a walk in the park for Crawford on this fight but looking at the last 3 fights of Kavaliauskas and Crawfords last 3 fights as well, Crawford has a high chance of winning here.

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Maybe others here are surprised by the selection but Crawford's last bout was way back April and already had enough time to condition his body and take again another fight before the year ends. I believed it has nothing to do with Arum nor dodging the possible bout against other big names, but I think Crawford's Camp wants at least a great tuneup before attempting to make a call against big names, probably next year. They just minimize the risks of picking those boxers that is close to rank by either Pacquaio or Spence so the big match can be set up next year.

Pacquaio should be out of the possible options here since even Crawford's camp wants Pacquiao, the latter decided to spend his whole time this year in the Senate. They also have no chance to take a shot with Spence since it just recently when he has a fight.

We can expect Crawford vs Pacquaio vs Spence next year (hope Spence will get back to shape after his recovery period).

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I don't see any chance that his opponent will beat him, crawford after this fight will remain undefeated.
Hopefully betting line will be up soon, so we can check what the odds for Crawford to win this fight, his opponent has a great KO percent but the question is can he hit a faster crawford? Anyway, let's just watch this fight and maybe after this year the discussion about Pacman possible fight between him and Spence will continue.

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Quote from: Baofeng on October 17, 2019, 06:39:36 PM

Quote from: DarkDays on October 17, 2019, 12:57:09 PM

Oh look, Crawford is fighting another fight outside the top 10, rather than attempting to unify the division.

Other than Jeff Horn, Crawford has barely fought anybody of note, and is clearly ducking the unification match with Pacquiao or Spence.

I actually think Crawford is trying to wait until Pacquiao is straight up too old, so he can walk over him.

Crawford will obviously win, but this isn't the fight we want to see.

I agree that we don't like to see him fighting no name fighters in the 147 lbs division. But I disagree that he is ducking the fight with either Pacquiao or Spence, clearly the roadblock is in his boxing promoter, Top Rank - Bob Arum. Who wouldn't love the big paycheck against Pacquiao? but since he is on the other side now with Al Haymon it's going to be very hard for those promoters to sit down and put the negotiation in the table.

I would say that fighters doesn't care about any unification, they simply wanted to get as much money as they can. And we all know that Arum protects his stable of fighters just like what he did during Manny's prime and he really build his career up to that mega fight with Floyd Mayweather. Kavaliauskas might be weaker but this is good for Arum, in-house fights and all money going to his bank account. I think Crawford vs Spence could happen, but it should generate a big hype similar to Pacquaio and Floyd before those two promoters step aside their difference because of the huge money that it can potentially bring.

With that said, Crawford by TKO in late rounds.

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Quote from: GreatArkansas on October 17, 2019, 05:50:49 AM

Terrence Crawford is totally has the advantage for the records.
But this fight is exciting since these two professional boxers has both no lost. Exciting, eh? This match will be tough for both because this fight will decide for their first lost.
I'm going for Terrence Crawford. I don't really trust or impress for every challenger in boxing.

Crawford would be the favorite on here and seeing those stats you can easily point out on whose one do have the edge.
They do have almost the same Knockout percentage but in terms of fight experience then Terrence do have it but I would
say that this wont be an easy fight which I believe that Kavaliauskas will perform well on this one.Dont know why you do hate
challengers but upsets can happen anytime. Grin

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Quote from: DarkDays on October 17, 2019, 12:57:09 PM

Oh look, Crawford is fighting another fight outside the top 10, rather than attempting to unify the division.

Other than Jeff Horn, Crawford has barely fought anybody of note, and is clearly ducking the unification match with Pacquiao or Spence.

I actually think Crawford is trying to wait until Pacquiao is straight up too old, so he can walk over him.

Crawford will obviously win, but this isn't the fight we want to see.

I agree that we don't like to see him fighting no name fighters in the 147 lbs division. But I disagree that he is ducking the fight with either Pacquiao or Spence, clearly the roadblock is in his boxing promoter, Top Rank - Bob Arum. Who wouldn't love the big paycheck against Pacquiao? but since he is on the other side now with Al Haymon it's going to be very hard for those promoters to sit down and put the negotiation in the table.

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Oh look, Crawford is fighting another fight outside the top 10, rather than attempting to unify the division.

Other than Jeff Horn, Crawford has barely fought anybody of note, and is clearly ducking the unification match with Pacquiao or Spence.

I actually think Crawford is trying to wait until Pacquiao is straight up too old, so he can walk over him.

Crawford will obviously win, but this isn't the fight we want to see.

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Quote from: robelneo on October 17, 2019, 07:55:21 AM

Quote from: Jating on October 17, 2019, 07:17:02 AM

I never heard of Kavaliauskas before, but in paper he has an impressive records, highlights here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KuVnwE39I28

Looks like this guys is on pure offense, coming forward fighter and this is perfect for Crawford. Really good job from Top Rank because this is a tailor made for Crawford and he will really look good in this fight. Remember style makes fight so I think this is an easy fight for Bud.

Yup I was about to post that too, this guy is an offensive machine and very violent with his attack I don't know much about his defense if he goes against Crawford with that kind of attack he will be in trouble, he will be likened to Gamboa who made a lot of mistakes by doing a lot of offense against a very good counter puncher in Crawford, I don't rule out an upset here, but let's see Kavaliauskas has a punching power, he can pull an upset.

He will be countered by Crawford all day long when he tries to go closer.Yes, I would agree that it will be a similar fight to Gamboa and we all know what happens to that fight. Gamboa being so aggressive and thought that he can just steam rolled Crawford that time that he keeps on coming on.

But Crawford was just countering him with left hooks and Crawford won the fight knocking down Gamboa three times and exposing him, and giving Gamboa his first lost.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on October 17, 2019, 06:09:05 AM

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All Crawford need to do is focus on his training and have that mindset that he is the underdog for him to get that motivation to train.

Crawford better be focused against this unknown guy or an upset happens. Guy got the power to KO opponents.

Crawford should not be distracted like this guy in this video. https://www.facebook.com/JustBoxing365SecondsOut/videos/564305917706422/

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Quote from: inthelongrun on October 17, 2019, 06:01:57 AM

Kavaliauskas is a high risk - low reward fight for Crawford imho. For the die hard Crawford fans, this is going to be another not worth betting match here. I see Crawford ML 1.02. Grin

I hate to see that odds, too risky for bettors.

Only Spence can make Crawford odds at 1.6 or above. The rest like Danny Garcia, Thurman and Pacquiao are 1.6 below.

Due to rampant politics in boxing, seldom we can find a 50/50 fight.

Speaking of a 50/50 fight. Don't forget to watch this weekend's Artur Beterbiev-Oleksandr Gvozdyk unification fight. Bet on Gvozdyk and come back to me if you lose. Grin

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Against a very good counter boxer like Crawford, he has no chance yes he has power but his defense is very doubtful and he is not fighting a classy fighter like what Crawford has fought, the experience will play a major factor here, and Crawford proves to be too much for Kavaliauskas
I will not say that it will be a walk in a park, but Crawford will just add Kavaliauskas to his win resume or even knock out.

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Kavaliauskas has posted quite a mediocre performance on his last bout against Ray Robinson resulting into a draw. He would have won that fight had he not hesitated to go into Robinson's defense in the last 4 rounds or so. Anyway, I still see this match as a one-sided one with the clear winner from Crawford. Yes, they may both be undefeated, but Crawford still has an awful lot of weight with his last wins against Amir Khan, Jeff Horn among others. I'd skip this match-up as this is certainly not the ones that you can get some juice on, especially with one clearly having the huge disadvantage against the other.

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Quote from: Jating on October 17, 2019, 07:17:02 AM

I never heard of Kavaliauskas before, but in paper he has an impressive records, highlights here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KuVnwE39I28

Looks like this guys is on pure offense, coming forward fighter and this is perfect for Crawford. Really good job from Top Rank because this is a tailor made for Crawford and he will really look good in this fight. Remember style makes fight so I think this is an easy fight for Bud.

Yup I was about to post that too, this guy is an offensive machine and very violent with his attack I don't know much about his defense if he goes against Crawford with that kind of attack he will be in trouble, he will be likened to Gamboa who made a lot of mistakes by doing a lot of offense against a very good counter puncher in Crawford, I don't rule out an upset here, but let's see Kavaliauskas has a punching power, he can pull an upset.

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I never heard of Kavaliauskas before, but in paper he has an impressive records, highlights here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KuVnwE39I28

Looks like this guys is on pure offense, coming forward fighter and this is perfect for Crawford. Really good job from Top Rank because this is a tailor made for Crawford and he will really look good in this fight. Remember style makes fight so I think this is an easy fight for Bud.

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Quote from: Upgrade00 on October 17, 2019, 04:37:37 AM

Kavaliauskas wasn't too convincing in his last outing which ended in a draw by majority decision. But both boxers go into this fight undefeated. Crawford would almost certainly be the favorite to win this bout. But with the strings of surprises we've had this year, he would need to take the gloves off, and prepare adequately for his opponent.

Crawford is the favorite in this fight even if they are both undefeated,Kavaliauskas on the other hand has a good record but not enough to beat Crawford
though i know boxing fight decides after and not in the preview but even to look back on their tracks still Crawford is the advantageous in this bout
preparing my bet for the First fighter since its only 2 months before the event so better be ready ahead

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Quote from: TravelMug on October 17, 2019, 06:10:46 AM

@Oasisman - I agree mate, boxing politics really hinders the mega fight that boxing fans should enjoy. If ever they fight in the future, I think Crawford will have the advantage, imho. The audience has been building up already, it's just the promoters doesn't want it at this point and I'm sure those two are eager to face each other as well.

The promoters still wants to maximize the opportunity to monetize these two fighters. Of course a lot of people will watch their respective fights against different opponent, so fans could easily speculate and study the possibilities when these two meet in the same ring, and adding up the hype as well.

If you remember how they built up the Pacquiao Mayweather fight, both are out of their prime, but still it became the "super bowl" of boxing. That's a world class marketing lol.

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Quote from: Ranly123 on October 17, 2019, 05:45:18 AM

For sure Crawford will be the favorite in this match. But why does Crawford's camp pick Kavalauskas as his opponent. I mean no offense but Kavalauskas is nowhere near the level of Crawford and this match would be a tailor made for him

As the article says, Kavalauskas is the mandatory, but I think it is a weak challenge that's why Crawford or Arum put in the works because of the less risk involved.

@Oasisman - I agree mate, boxing politics really hinders the mega fight that boxing fans should enjoy. If ever they fight in the future, I think Crawford will have the advantage, imho. The audience has been building up already, it's just the promoters doesn't want it at this point and I'm sure those two are eager to face each other as well.

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Quote from: Ranly123 on October 17, 2019, 05:45:18 AM

For sure Crawford will be the favorite in this match. But why does Crawford's camp pick Kavalauskas as his opponent. I mean no offense but Kavalauskas is nowhere near the level of Crawford and this match would be a tailor made for him

Crawford will always be the favorite whenever he fights but we can never say that this fight would be easy for him as we have seen a lot of close fights that the favorites almost lost like the GGG fight.

All Crawford need to do is focus on his training and have that mindset that he is the underdog for him to get that motivation to train.

Quote from: inthelongrun on October 17, 2019, 06:01:57 AM

Kavaliauskas is a high risk - low reward fight for Crawford imho. For the die hard Crawford fans, this is going to be another not worth betting match here. I see Crawford ML 1.02. Grin

I hate to see that odds, too risky for bettors.

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