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legendary
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January 08, 2024, 04:18:07 PM
A question to "fighters for justice" and boycott those who "harm Muslim brothers": recently hackers broke into Chinese Communist bases, and posted a huge amount of information (including thousands of photos from concentration camps) about Muslims imprisoned in inhumane conditions, subjected to violence, persecution, religious ban, and physical torture.

Can you please tell me why I don't see your topics "Boycott Chinese products" or "Holy war on the yuan to destroy the anti-Muslim regime of the Chinese Communist Party" ? Is it your "selectivity" towards your brothers and faith, fear, or something else ?
Very interesting to hear the answers !  But I assume that they (reasonable answers) will not be, well, at most - accusation of Zionism Smiley And there will be no reasoned answers, and you yourself understand why ! Smiley

PS Lack of intelligible answers about the reasons for the absence of calls to the boycott of Chinese products, or a primitive accusation of Zionism or something like a far -fetched one, will be the best evidence that all this "anti -Israeli" hype is a consequence of primitive propaganda, and it does not support any interests of Muslims, and does not protect ! And it is only a cheap manipulation, to achieve someone’s mercantile interests, through the fractions of ordinary, gullible people who do not have to deeply understand the essence of the problem.

they can't ban Chinese products because if they did, they would be banning everything even the phones. when it comes to products we're all benefiting from the cheap products of China although the companies that operate there are mostly from the West. effectively banning the products from China means banning the companies that produce the products we are used to using.

but i think the war in the Red Sea may prevent the Chinese products from passing that route thereby the supply chain choked. that could be an answer to what you want.

From simple to complex...
1. Iranian, Chinese ships pass through without any problems. And since the very beginning of the sea tetror by the Houthis.

2. "When it comes to products we're all benefiting from the cheap products of China although the companies that operate there are mostly from the West. effectively banning the products from China means banning the companies that produce the products we are used to using." - I.e. blood brothers, co-religionists are harassed, you should boycott if they are products of Israeli origin, which you hardly consume. But if it is inexpensive and familiar, and often used, then the priority is given to trinkets from China, because they are used to them and it is available, and a million Muslim brothers - let them continue to be tortured in prisons !?? Are you serious !?
Seems like a very ridiculous excuse..... It's even worse if it's true !
legendary
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January 08, 2024, 03:58:08 PM
But I see it's really wrong because they mixed up both Western brands and Israel brands as they boycotting brands like: McDonald, Fanta, Garnier, Nestea, Starbucks etc. I'm not sure what's their reason to do that

No one mixed up anything...it's a correct conclusion. If you look at the top of major US corporations, if you look at the elite positions if power, etc. You will notice something similar about their interests, their network and their background...Once you have a closer look, you'll be unsure no longer.

Think smarter, don't ruin the economy in your country because of sUppOrTInG PaLEStinE by doing that.

You're not ruining an economy for not supporting international franchises. People will shop locally instead, which is better for a population and an economy in many ways than buying fast food at McDonald's.

It seems people are forgetting that fast food is bad for you? Mcdonald's and similar companies should have been boycotted the moment they started selling ridiculously low health grade food.
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January 07, 2024, 02:13:44 PM
There are many organizations and people in Asia are boycotting Israel's product because they're stand with Palestine. But I see it's really wrong because they mixed up both Western brands and Israel brands as they boycotting brands like: McDonald, Fanta, Garnier, Nestea, Starbucks etc. I'm not sure what's their reason to do that, but I take McDonald as the example, they boycotting McDonald because McDonald's franchise in Israel is supporting Israel.
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Don't wanna say anything about whether Israel product should boycotted or not, but the one thing i know that a single innocent people should not die for no reason be it an israeli be it a Palestinian. But the current situation is at this point all products that support Israel genocide, should be boycotted.  The oppression of Palestinians makes my heart bleed.  How mercilessly the Israeli army is killing the Palestinians.  It's so heartbreaking!  We all should live peacefully. Calling everyone for peace.  What is the point of carrying out this destruction? However, if you boycott the product, you should definitely know.  It is better to boycott the products that support Israel.  Because the life of the Palestinians is getting more worser. No product should be boycotted without proper knowledge. This will harm many innocent people.  Many people will lose their jobs, the company will be closed.  So first we need to know properly and then take action.
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January 07, 2024, 01:42:43 PM
A question to "fighters for justice" and boycott those who "harm Muslim brothers": recently hackers broke into Chinese Communist bases, and posted a huge amount of information (including thousands of photos from concentration camps) about Muslims imprisoned in inhumane conditions, subjected to violence, persecution, religious ban, and physical torture.

Can you please tell me why I don't see your topics "Boycott Chinese products" or "Holy war on the yuan to destroy the anti-Muslim regime of the Chinese Communist Party" ? Is it your "selectivity" towards your brothers and faith, fear, or something else ?
Very interesting to hear the answers !  But I assume that they (reasonable answers) will not be, well, at most - accusation of Zionism Smiley And there will be no reasoned answers, and you yourself understand why ! Smiley

PS Lack of intelligible answers about the reasons for the absence of calls to the boycott of Chinese products, or a primitive accusation of Zionism or something like a far -fetched one, will be the best evidence that all this "anti -Israeli" hype is a consequence of primitive propaganda, and it does not support any interests of Muslims, and does not protect ! And it is only a cheap manipulation, to achieve someone’s mercantile interests, through the fractions of ordinary, gullible people who do not have to deeply understand the essence of the problem.
I like this comment of you mate, though I am not a muslim but I am also concerned on what the communist party did to our muslim brothers and sisters in Xinjiang. But we heard nothing about this right now because of Chinese propaganda that blinded the world. If Asians has to boycott a specific country's products that would be Chinese products. Why? It is because China not only cause misinformation and instability in the region but also poses biggest threat to it's neighbors and other countries. Remember debt trap? The massacre of 64 Vietnamese soldiers in the Spratly Islands? The baseless 9-10 dash lines? The incident in Galwan Valley? The pandemic? How about spy balloons? Chinese agression in the West Philippine Sea? It's plans to attack Taiwan? There's a lot more but were covered by propaganda.  But why can't we come up or even hear the word "boycott Chinese products"? It is because most of us are dependent with Chinese products. We Asians always say that Chinese products are in poor quality but we can't stop buying it. 😆

With regards to the topic, it is not Israel who started the war it is the proxy  terrorists. Why terrorists? Because Hamas made civilians their human shield and they are proxy of Iran who wanted to destroy Israel. And now we can hear Palestinians and it's supporters calling for boycott to products of companies who supported Israel so why not Israel boycott the Iranian products, the Turkish products, the Omani products and other products that came from those who supported Palestine?
legendary
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January 07, 2024, 12:58:23 PM
A question to "fighters for justice" and boycott those who "harm Muslim brothers": recently hackers broke into Chinese Communist bases, and posted a huge amount of information (including thousands of photos from concentration camps) about Muslims imprisoned in inhumane conditions, subjected to violence, persecution, religious ban, and physical torture.

Can you please tell me why I don't see your topics "Boycott Chinese products" or "Holy war on the yuan to destroy the anti-Muslim regime of the Chinese Communist Party" ? Is it your "selectivity" towards your brothers and faith, fear, or something else ?
Very interesting to hear the answers !  But I assume that they (reasonable answers) will not be, well, at most - accusation of Zionism Smiley And there will be no reasoned answers, and you yourself understand why ! Smiley

PS Lack of intelligible answers about the reasons for the absence of calls to the boycott of Chinese products, or a primitive accusation of Zionism or something like a far -fetched one, will be the best evidence that all this "anti -Israeli" hype is a consequence of primitive propaganda, and it does not support any interests of Muslims, and does not protect ! And it is only a cheap manipulation, to achieve someone’s mercantile interests, through the fractions of ordinary, gullible people who do not have to deeply understand the essence of the problem.

they can't ban Chinese products because if they did, they would be banning everything even the phones. when it comes to products we're all benefiting from the cheap products of China although the companies that operate there are mostly from the West. effectively banning the products from China means banning the companies that produce the products we are used to using.

but i think the war in the Red Sea may prevent the Chinese products from passing that route thereby the supply chain choked. that could be an answer to what you want.

legendary
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January 07, 2024, 11:16:53 AM
A question to "fighters for justice" and boycott those who "harm Muslim brothers": recently hackers broke into Chinese Communist bases, and posted a huge amount of information (including thousands of photos from concentration camps) about Muslims imprisoned in inhumane conditions, subjected to violence, persecution, religious ban, and physical torture.

Can you please tell me why I don't see your topics "Boycott Chinese products" or "Holy war on the yuan to destroy the anti-Muslim regime of the Chinese Communist Party" ? Is it your "selectivity" towards your brothers and faith, fear, or something else ?
Very interesting to hear the answers !  But I assume that they (reasonable answers) will not be, well, at most - accusation of Zionism Smiley And there will be no reasoned answers, and you yourself understand why ! Smiley

PS Lack of intelligible answers about the reasons for the absence of calls to the boycott of Chinese products, or a primitive accusation of Zionism or something like a far -fetched one, will be the best evidence that all this "anti -Israeli" hype is a consequence of primitive propaganda, and it does not support any interests of Muslims, and does not protect ! And it is only a cheap manipulation, to achieve someone’s mercantile interests, through the fractions of ordinary, gullible people who do not have to deeply understand the essence of the problem.
sr. member
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December 16, 2023, 07:40:32 AM
I’ll just give an example of how Ukraine boycotted the products of the terrorist country - Russia:
Totally ignoring their products, publishing information about Russian brands, ignoring and complaining to stores, retail outlets, and retail chains about the presence of products from a terrorist’s country on their shelves. And you know - both the largest chains and small sellers completely removed such goods in literally a month!
No one bought a single unit in order to “exemplarily destroy”, just a total refusal to purchase goods and mass publication of the facts of the availability of goods in stores or even networks, across all social networks. So that EVERYONE knows - you can’t buy this - this is a terrorist product, if you buy it for even 1 hryvnia, you will pay the terrorists who are destroying peaceful cities of Ukraine!

I guess why this was able to work well in the case of Ukraine is that the war directly affects them. When something directly affects people they tend to do something about it. Every Ukrainian knows the impact of using Russian products in the war, however insignificant it might seem.
In the case of boycotting Israeli products, the other Muslim countries and the rest of the world are not directly affected by the war. We may point out how the war affects economies and all, but it doesn't affect people directly.
In my country, very few people care if the product is Russian or Israeli, but if we were in Ukraine's or Palestine's position we would be aware of those tiny details.
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December 15, 2023, 03:34:05 PM
I have never understood boycotting "company" because you hate a "nation", you can boycott a nation, that would make sense, if you hate a nation then do not buy products from that nation directly, but boycotting a company?

What did the company ever do to you or anyone else. Like McDonalds for example, they are responsible for making burgers, that's literally their job, by not buying any burgers from them then you are not really helping any cause at all, or starbucks, if you are not drinking coffee from them then it makes no sense neither, it's just not hurting any nation, you think Isreal will stop because you didn't buy a burger or a cup of coffee? That never made sense to me at all. By the way, don't do that anyway, burgers are bad for you, and too much coffee is terrible for your health as well, boycott aside, you shouldn't get them anyway.
legendary
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December 15, 2023, 12:33:41 PM
And here is a local problem, and the causes of the problem have been "forgotten", and now they are trying to make Israel itself guilty for the attack on Israel....
Nobody is blaming Israel for defending themselves, I'm blaming Israel for almost 20k civilian casualties (including children), about 50k injured civilians, city of Gaza reduced to rubble. I mean they're so merciless - they were not particularly cautious when choosing targets for airstrikes: they bombed hospitals, schools, universities, they even killed most of the Israeli hostages HAMAS captured during their raids. They just don't care. And you're saying Putin is a bloody monster?  Grin

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Third, the supporters of the "boycott" do not produce alternatives with high quality and excellent consumer characteristics. That is, they are simply calling for an additional reduction in their standard of living.
Now tell me please, as a Ukrainian: do you care about your standard of living reducing now during the war? I think Palestinians feel the same. The main thing is to survive as a nation not consume quality goods.


Okay, let's assume that you're sclerotic. Do I need to remind you where this all started? A massive massacre by Hamas with the support of Palestinian civilians. Murder, violence, kidnapping, torture, marauding, most of the victims civilians. Israel has the right to defend itself and destroy terrorists. Hamas, as a terrorist organization, has no right to exist. Hamas has no right to cover itself with the civilians of the Gaza Strip. The big picture is as follows: Israel was subjected to a terrorist bloody attack, and began the rightful destruction of terrorists who made civilians hostages .... Now do you realize who to "thank" for the dead Gazans ? If not, I will assume that you also demanded to punish the USSR, Britain, USA and others for the destruction of German Nazism in 1945, when, unfortunately, civilians and civilian supporters of Nazism, also became victims of the international coalition strike. Well, or the last option - you have frankly double standards.

Regarding Ukraine - yes, our standard of living is obviously not in the best condition, but we, like Israel, are victims of terrorist aggression, and we also destroy terrorists both on our own soil and on the territory of the terrorist country.

Or do you "accidentally" not understand the parallels in the situation, and confuse victims and their victims and forced hostages ?
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December 15, 2023, 11:16:44 AM


There are many organizations and people in Asia are boycotting Israel's product because they're stand with Palestine. But I see it's really wrong because they mixed up both Western brands and Israel brands as they boycotting brands like: McDonald, Fanta, Garnier, Nestea, Starbucks etc. I'm not sure what's their reason to do that, but I take McDonald as the example, they boycotting McDonald because McDonald's franchise in Israel is supporting Israel.

Asians are boycotting Israeli products. The reason for this is that Israel has crossed all limits of cruelty and brutality in Palestine. First of all, what is the role of a brand McDonald's in this fight, and if it has to support someone, at least support the victim.He is supporting the oppressor instead of the oppressed, so he should be boycotted not only by the people of Asia, but by the whole world. The second thing is that no common man can eat in McDonald's, but only rich people visit here, so I think boycotting it will not have any bad effect on the economy, but for the employees working in it difficulties may arise, but it will also affect McDonald's.

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Think smarter, don't ruin the economy in your country because of sUppOrTInG PaLEStinE by doing that.

The economy of a country is never destroyed by boycotting the products of another country, but the economy is strengthened, because we have to import all these things from outside. Instead of depending on others, you should make your own things, so as to save your precious foreign exchange.
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December 15, 2023, 10:30:03 AM
This can be seen from many media today so that it is normal for the majority of the Muslim and non-Muslim population to boycott products that support Israel. But what we need to find out now is what the actual condition of Israel is at the moment because many Israelis living in Tel Aviv have left the city after repeated Hamas attacks fell there.

And in general, there are many western media who deliberately cover up the current condition of the state of Israel in order to make it appear that they are still strong enough to survive. Even though there are many losses experienced by Israel through war and boycotting products that support it, as well as the participation of the Yemeni Houthis in helping Palestine via the Red Sea route in blocking every ship carrying logistics for Israel.
Boycotting Israel product not only followed by the majority of the Muslim population but also by non-Muslims, I think boycotting is not only about what majority of Palestine religion as Muslim but also with human right how brutal invasion did by Israel and killed many Palestine person from children until old people. I can't believable with some medias have bad report their news only take care what Hamas did for Israel citizen but they blame what did by Israel soldier killed many Palestine kids.

The invasion have stop as soon possibility and both side not get any victim yet in the future, I think enough how many people have been pass away and they have loss with their home. For the near moment I wish both side have invasion conflict could get freedom and they have proposed a ceasefire how to protect the citizen from bad happening again.
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December 15, 2023, 09:32:43 AM
A mixed reaction is observed here.  Some are boycotting knowingly, some are boycotting without understanding.  However, according to my personal opinion, Israel should not be supported.  It is a bloodthirsty country.  The situation in Palestine is really sad.  It is better to boycott the products of Israel by which they receive financial support.  My humanity as a human being never supports taking someone's life.  The situation of the Palestinians is really bad.  Just thinking about their condition breaks my heart.  Many innocent people are losing their lives in this war.

This can be seen from many media today so that it is normal for the majority of the Muslim and non-Muslim population to boycott products that support Israel. But what we need to find out now is what the actual condition of Israel is at the moment because many Israelis living in Tel Aviv have left the city after repeated Hamas attacks fell there.

And in general, there are many western media who deliberately cover up the current condition of the state of Israel in order to make it appear that they are still strong enough to survive. Even though there are many losses experienced by Israel through war and boycotting products that support it, as well as the participation of the Yemeni Houthis in helping Palestine via the Red Sea route in blocking every ship carrying logistics for Israel.
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December 15, 2023, 09:30:39 AM
I heard of an app which supposedly was made to identify Israeli products but that was quickly shut down by the typical social justice keyboard warriors. But in all honesty, those disgusting companies in OP's list only care about money. They are not truly supportive of either side just like they are not actually supportive of gay rights when they paint their logo with rainbow colors during the "pride month". It is nothing but pandering to the highest/most popular bidder and I think that nobody should be as naive as to believe otherwise. The CEOs of these products are demons who would sell their own mother for a penny. They see this war as an opportunity to market their products. Thats it. Nothing more.

And the people who are supposedly "boycotting" the "bad" products are playing into their game.

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December 15, 2023, 09:23:06 AM
And here is a local problem, and the causes of the problem have been "forgotten", and now they are trying to make Israel itself guilty for the attack on Israel....
Nobody is blaming Israel for defending themselves, I'm blaming Israel for almost 20k civilian casualties (including children), about 50k injured civilians, city of Gaza reduced to rubble. I mean they're so merciless - they were not particularly cautious when choosing targets for airstrikes: they bombed hospitals, schools, universities, they even killed most of the Israeli hostages HAMAS captured during their raids. They just don't care. And you're saying Putin is a bloody monster?  Grin

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Third, the supporters of the "boycott" do not produce alternatives with high quality and excellent consumer characteristics. That is, they are simply calling for an additional reduction in their standard of living.
Now tell me please, as a Ukrainian: do you care about your standard of living reducing now during the war? I think Palestinians feel the same. The main thing is to survive as a nation not consume quality goods.
legendary
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December 15, 2023, 06:01:13 AM
Any firm can always use subsidiary firms or partner firms if the people of a particular country start boycotting the goods of the producing country. Therefore, is there any point in a personal boycott if no country-level sanctions have been imposed? And there are always parallel imports

Such a scenario is possible, and is realized if global INTERNATIONAL sanctions are imposed, such as against the terrorist country russia. They use gaskets like Iran, China, North Korea, Armenia and some other countries for gray exports.  But the scheme is also specific, there are many nuances..... And here is a local problem, and the causes of the problem have been "forgotten", and now they are trying to make Israel itself guilty for the attack on Israel....
The second problem in the framework of the topic - boycott of Israeli goods will directly hit the Palestinians themselves, because more than 200,000 well-paid jobs were given to them by Israel and Israeli companies. So it is these employees who are most likely to suffer.
Third, the supporters of the "boycott" do not produce alternatives with high quality and excellent consumer characteristics. That is, they are simply calling for an additional reduction in their standard of living.
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December 14, 2023, 11:36:53 AM
If you know that the company completely standa with Israel then you don't have to ask yourself if you have to boycott them or not, there's only one answer to that, if your military is killing children and bombing hospitals because you thought that the Hamas is hiding there then you know that there's something wrong with that company supporting that country as they like to call themselves. Also, there's nothing wrong with mistakenly boycotting a company, that just makes them speak on the issue so the boycotts will stop, if McDonald's want to stop the boycotts, they just got to take sides.
I will agree with you that the boycott policy can succeed and that it is one of the most important means of putting pressure on major companies. However, there is a specificity regarding the Palestinian issue for several considerations, the most important of which is that the companies supporting one of the parties to the conflict in a particular country are the same as supporting the other party to the conflict in another country. Also, any company whose goal is essentially profit will not care much about who wins and who loses in a conflict that is more than 70 years old, unless the result will affect its revenues.
I believe in the boycott policy when a certain company violates market rules, but to be boycotted internationally because of its position is the closest thing to injustice, especially since this is impossible to generalize.
Meta Company explicitly supports Israel and many other technology companies. Do you know people who boycotted Facebook?
These are emotional decisions that have a circumstantial impact and nothing more.

LOL. I see like almost 5 Nestle brands in that picture.

Nestle has done far worse things than picking sides in any particular war, and people have been boycotting them for decades, but the blood-thirsty company continues to buy up other businesses and hurt more people by making things prohibitively expensive for them.
To be honest, I want to see the CEO of Nestle die in a horrible way, that company is the most evil company there together with BlackRock, Vanguard, Raytheon and Lockheed Martin.
Do you really mean what you say? Could an ideological position lead you to want to see someone die in a horrific way?
One of the oddities of this Palestinian-Zionist conflict is that all its parties justify their inhumane thoughts and actions under the pretext of their belief in humanity.
Unfortunately, there are not many rational people with whom one can discuss this terrible defect in people's minds.
legendary
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December 14, 2023, 11:17:07 AM
Any firm can always use subsidiary firms or partner firms if the people of a particular country start boycotting the goods of the producing country. Therefore, is there any point in a personal boycott if no country-level sanctions have been imposed? And there are always parallel imports
legendary
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December 14, 2023, 06:52:58 AM
Another interesting nuance - can anyone name the fact that when the Hamas terrorist organization attacked Israel, there were calls for a boycott of brands and goods that Palestinians produce or own ? NO ! What does that mean ? It means that the boycott in this case is not for just punishment but for hype. And probably someone is just manipulating the "outraged masses" to solve their mercantile problems Smiley
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December 14, 2023, 05:43:53 AM
When we analyze the countries that boycott many big brands often claiming that they are Israeli products, we can see that many of them are actually not very developed. In other words, if a social media influencer shares a post about these brands being Israeli products, there are thousands/millions of people who may make an action to boycott that brands.

Especially when I see people who think that they are boycotting these companies by dumping, burning or otherwise damaging these products after purchasing the products of many companies that are claimed to be Israeli companies, I am not surprised that there are people who start a boycott campaign by writing a few companies without any research.
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December 13, 2023, 11:05:19 PM
Boycotting Israel product have been success in Morocco, popular coffee shop Starbucks and clothing brand H&M have been close permanently since December 3, 2023. I think Countries with Muslim majority are very easy to accept calls to boycott products affiliated with support for Israel in the midst of their invasion of Palestine. Yesterday in my country success make another Spanish clothing brand ZARA dropped their values after promoting new cloth with promoting their advertisements or brands with the concept of genocide committed by Israel against Palestine.
Since Israel still not invasion to Palestine I don't think boycotting with Israel or product affiliated supported Israel will stop from boycotting and potential have the next country after Morocco will close permanently all Israel product. My country Indonesia still popular with boycotting Israel product although still not close permanently operation but their sales fell quite drastically.
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