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legendary
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November 19, 2023, 09:03:01 AM
#93
I hope these companies release some statistics at some point to see the scale of the effects the ongoing boycott had on their revenues. At this point we only have news and social media to speculate and it is not accurate.
For example the most recent "activity" by the dictator of Arabia shows the boycott may be bigger than we thought because the al-Saudi dictator is ordering his mouthpieces to advertise McDonald's which is something that's happened for the first time!
legendary
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November 19, 2023, 07:15:50 AM
#92
I also suggest that supporters of Palestine consider boycotting goods and relations with Jordan and Egypt! Smiley

Probably many already know why!? No, ok, I inform you - the brotherly Palestinians, the peoples of Jordan and Egypt, fellow believers, categorically REFUSED to accept refugees from Gaza!
“Jordan and Egypt will not accept Palestinian refugees from the Gaza Strip,” Jordanian King Abdullah announced this at a joint press conference with German Chancellor Olaf Scholz.
"This is a red line. No more Palestinian refugees - neither in Jordan nor in Egypt," the state news agency Petra quoted the monarch as saying.
According to Abdullah, the problem should be resolved within the Gaza Strip and in the West Bank, and not “shifted onto the shoulders of other states.”

This is what “support for the Palestinian people” looks like....

And again I ask myself the question - but no one can tell WHY Israel gave the Palestinians jobs, allowed them into its territory, treated them as people... And “brothers in faith” simply turn away from them and push them away? Nobody can give a reason?
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November 19, 2023, 05:21:35 AM
#91
Why more? In a lot of cases the products listed in the picture are a lot more expensive than their alternatives only because of their brand name.
Some of local sellers often charge higher rate when they see you wear a good clothes or drive an expensive car. I guess you meant the other competitors which is correct their products are cheaper, but the new generation prefer to buy a stuff with brand in order to flex in social media.

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Good news is that there are countless competitors for a lot of "simple products" from burgers to shampoos and drinks that have at least same quality if not better as replacements.
The taste of each product is different, it's can't be replaced, for me no one can replace KFC's sauces.

For men, every shampoos are same, but for women, not every shampoos suit for them and they always stick to brand that suit for them.

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Both of these countries import a ton of stuff. IIRC China imports is about $3 trillion annually.
But they both has a power which make them easier to cooperate with the other countries, even though EU give a sanction against Russia, Russia can still work with the other strong countries e.g. Saudi Arabia or China.
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November 18, 2023, 10:16:29 AM
#90
HAMAS has gone into a suicide mission and the price is being paid by those who has no relation with the war. This is very much unfortunate but looking at Israel's mood, it's not going to stop anytime soon. If Iran tries to become the big daddy of the Middle East, they will be screwed by US.
There is a theory known as just war theory which explains the war phenomenon of what is allowed in war and what is not. This theory has three phases and in the second phase jus ad bellum, there is a principle that clearly says that only use that force in response that your opponent doeses, means not using excess force in response to a little one. Israel violated this principle and killed thousands of children and did a carpet bombing in Ghaza, Hamas did not kill any children so the war was just between Israel and Hamas, and the protection of the civilians was necessary. The Muslim country and also the European states boycott Israel's products based on civilian killing. We are in an advanced era where there is not only war occurring due to weapons but through different means and economic boycotts are one of them.
legendary
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November 18, 2023, 09:55:50 AM
#89
A question to the esteemed public !
Please just answer honestly, even if the answer will not be pleasant: why Arab countries do not say a word about boycott of Chinese products?
Someone will probably ask - "What does China have to do with it". I answer - In China, for many decades, systematically, at the state level, there is a real genocide of Muslims. There are persecuted, imprisoned, tortured, deprived of rights, deprived of the right to their religious identity, more than a million Muslims ! And not ONE Muslim country says a word about this to me, does not make any demands, does not demand boycott and confrontation or even MINIMAL help to their brothers in faith and blood !?!? Is it like - selective truth, double standards, or is it "wrong Muslims" ? Or maybe it's just a matter of .... Though no - I would love to hear your ARGUMENTED opinions
legendary
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November 18, 2023, 06:56:18 AM
#88
I just want to ask is there a news about that company gives money aid to israel soldier or it is spark because mcd israel gives free meal to soldier ?
The free meal thing was a reminder for a lot of people that woke them up.
Otherwise the financial aid that McDonald's sends the apartheid regime of Israel is huge and they've been doing it for many years. I believe the start was at least from 1993.

We also already know that many of the CEOs were Zionists themselves such as Jack M. Greenberg (CEO from 1999 to 2002).

One of the proxies through which McDonald's sends money to the child killer regime is the Jewish Federation of Metropolitan Chicago. This organization is then sending $1.3 billion to the terrorists in Tel Aviv every year.
You can see their main contributors in their website (old picture showing their gratitude for their biggest contributors): https://www.talkimg.com/image/FI5qC

You see this is not the first time companies such as McDonald's is experiencing global backlash for supporting terrorism. This is why they have been doing it through proxies and third parties trying to keep it under wraps. But funding terrorism always leaves a trail.
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November 17, 2023, 09:28:42 PM
#87
Maybe this will also happen in various other countries where local business owners will take advantage of this momentum to compete amidst the incessant boycott of products whose companies support the war. Because not all of the products being boycotted are from Israel, but there are also from other countries such as America and its member states, so this also needs to be looked at carefully. So that no one misunderstands the boycott that is currently underway, because this will really have a big impact on the country's economic sector.

Yes. Everyone is taking advantage of the moment and setting a strategy in this regard. If I focus on an authorized body such as the UN which has strong nails, it can immediately seek a middle way so that the ongoing military aggression conflict there can be immediately resolved in a just and dignified manner where the dominant victims are children and women.

Since the war broke out on October 7, there have been more than 11,500 Palestinians in Gaza, including 4,710 children and 3,160 women. The number of injured victims reached 29,800 people and this is temporary data which has not yet been updated and is certain to increase. Isn't that sad? Do they (UN) want to slow it down again and increase the number of victims?
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November 17, 2023, 08:40:55 PM
#86
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/11/14/indonesians-boycott-mcdonalds-starbucks-over-support-for-israel Here in my country there is boycott product like Starbucks and mcdonald tho I dont really buy the product too even before the boycott is arrived because expensive hahaha.

I just want to ask is there a news about that company gives money aid to israel soldier or it is spark because mcd israel gives free meal to soldier ?
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November 17, 2023, 08:34:22 PM
#85
The people suffering the most are the local business owner and his employees.  Roll Eyes
Exactly, sometimes even local entrepreneurs and those who collaborate with franchise may not necessarily support Zionism. It could be that in countries with a majority Muslim population, there's cooperation with this franchise because it shows good growth and generates high profits. There's no intention to endorse the existing genocide. I'm starting to see a dilemma here, even though it's also worthy of consideration.

If this product is truly thriving, then what happens is that the parent company reaps more profits. If the business is slow, it's the local franchise owners who suffer losses. Sometimes, boycotting products becomes a tough choice in responding to conflicts.

I get it, everyone wants to help the victims of war, but is this the right way by limiting ourselves from products that we used even before on a daily basis?
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November 17, 2023, 09:57:00 AM
#84
My cousin works at Starbucks but he has had his working hours reduced because visitors to Starbucks have decreased drastically since the boycott was carried out by people.

To be honest, on the one hand, I feel sorry for him, but what is currently people doing (the boycott) is the best thing to stop the madness of war. what is being done by Israel towards Palestine, humanity remains above all even though we will see many people who will be unemployed.

This is what I have in mind,  the effect of the boycott itself, there are many hundreds of workers who will be affected by the boycott of the above products, on the one hand the issue of humanity and the independence of Palestine is also important,
It's a good idea to research the truth further before boycotting,

We don't know who actually planned that boycott, but even so, it might have an effect, but that doesn't mean that the boycott will bring down those products.

It seems that in the human body, it can only cause a wound, but it will still heal after a short period of time. You know what I mean. And as others have said, that's not a good way to be honest if we look closely. .
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November 17, 2023, 08:45:00 AM
#83
It's these private companies that should think smarter. I'm pretty sure they understand that we are now at the cancel culture age but they still expressed their support anyway instead of remaining neutral.
Those who would boycott may stop buying these brands but they will still spend their money elsewhere so not much problem with that. The issue is that there may be a few hundreds or thousands of employees that may be affected in case these franchises go bankrupt.
I agree with your point that these companies are the ones who should have taken a neutral stance if they couldn't show support for Palestine for whatever reason even though it's pretty obvious that the people of Palestine are the actual victims of this war because they are innocent and has nothing to do whatever happens or even whatever their country or the authorities does, a country shouldn't kill innocent civilians when it's in war with the country.

Anyway, if these companies are not thinking about their employees because they probably don't care, they should at least think of themselves because if people in large numbers start boycotting them and their products, they will start to incur huge losses due to mass production costs and low sales.
legendary
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November 17, 2023, 07:29:05 AM
#82
My cousin works at Starbucks but he has had his working hours reduced because visitors to Starbucks have decreased drastically since the boycott was carried out by people.

To be honest, on the one hand, I feel sorry for him, but what is currently people doing (the boycott) is the best thing to stop the madness of war. what is being done by Israel towards Palestine, humanity remains above all even though we will see many people who will be unemployed.

This is what I have in mind,  the effect of the boycott itself, there are many hundreds of workers who will be affected by the boycott of the above products, on the one hand the issue of humanity and the independence of Palestine is also important,
It's a good idea to research the truth further before boycotting,
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November 17, 2023, 06:32:06 AM
#81
If you want to support Palestine, find the trusted charity in your respective country and make a donation on there.

Think smarter, don't ruin the economy in your country because of sUppOrTInG PaLEStinE by doing that.
I would say that if the prices or stocks or whatever (like revenue or income) drops, then it means that boycott is working. Doesn't mean I am supporting or against the boycott, I am just stating a fact.

However, we need to remember that these are multi-billion dollar companies and I am not sure if the boycott will continue to hurt them, we need to be realistically about the results of this, there could be some situations right now, but at the long run the western world is 99% of the income these companies have, and middle east is not, middle east doesn't bring in half as much as they think they do, these companies could work for just USA alone and still be rich nations, let alone adding Europe to that calculation. There could be troubles short term that's it.
legendary
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November 17, 2023, 04:25:15 AM
#80
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 Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

Classic propaganda ramblings of a proponent of terrorism and anti-Semitism....

The simplest proof is the ELECTED history !
The inconvenient FACTS are sort of forgotten. Avoiding the FACT and topic of Arab countries taking over the territory of Palestine and trying to attribute it to Israel is quite enough.
Or glossing over the FACT that Israel gave rights, shelter and jobs to the people of Gaza (which Israel essentially liberated by kicking out the Egyptian invaders).
The FACT that Arab countries categorically refuse to provide shelter and aid to Gazans is also silent. By the way, the FACTS and reasons for this behavior are also silent !
But the stupid, primitive, manipulative propaganda of the terrorist regime is being poured out !
What can one talk about with a rabid supporter of systemic lies and misanthropic ideologies !???

PS A special "thank you" to Hamas - for depriving the citizens of Gaza of a peaceful life, work and future, making them "expendable" and "human shields" for the cowardly Hamas terrorists !

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November 17, 2023, 01:15:56 AM
#79
It all depends on who the major shareholders of these franchises are, because those people are the ones that are targeted. The franchises that you mentioned are mostly from Western countries and we know the West are supporting Israel in this War.  

The sad part is, those companies ( franchisor ) usually have lots of local franchisees that are buying the rights to operate under their name, so the local business are usually operated by a local business owner and the staff working for him are also coming from the local community.

The boycott might damage the franchisor a little bit, but these companies are global, so they just expand into more countries where there are no hostilities against them.

The people suffering the most are the local business owner and his employees.  Roll Eyes
legendary
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November 16, 2023, 01:22:03 PM
#78
And I can easily prove this! 1947. This year, two states were actually created - Israel and Palestine.
Classic Zionist propagandist trying to twist the history and give legitimacy to the illegitimate Zionist regime which is now categorized as a terrorist organization.

Up until 1948 the Brits were the occupiers of these lands. After WW2 ended and Britain was no longer "great" they needed to give up a lot of colonies, so they took advantage and shipped all the Jews (they hated as much as Hitler) to these occupied lands by fooling them with the concept the Jews call "Aliyah". With the help of rest of Europe and US. They wanted to kill two birds with one stone: to get rid of Jews and have a proxy in West Asia.
Here you can see US gathering Jews to be shipped to Palestine:


These Jews were seen as refugees escaping the war torn Europe seeking asylum in Palestine so they were received by Arabs in their lands. As we can see in this image from 1947 the thousands of Jews that are shipped to occupied Palestine are pleading for asylum: "Germans destroyed our families and our homes, don't you destroy our hopes" can be read on the side of Theodor Herzl ship that has brought them to Palestine.

Another source for the image from a different angle: https://digitalcommons.usf.edu/alicia_appleman_jurman/12/

Jews were supposed to be housed in these small settlements inside Palestine shown in white. But as you can see from the day the Zionist infestation began, they have been swallowing Palestine whole. Ethnically cleansing Palestinians and occupying their homes.


At this point there is not much left of Palestine and Gaza is their last stance against the apartheid regime occupying their homes. They either win and wipe out Zionist terrorists then Palestinians and Jews can start living side by side like the past 2000 years or the terrorists succeed in their genocide and end Palestine which means next they start their expansion plans by invading other neighbors starting from the weakest Egypt and Jordan.
Now you know why the Hurricane of Al-Aqsa took place on October 7 and why it still is a nightmare for the terrorist organization, Israel. Now you also understand why the Israeli terrorists are murdering civilians, specially children this easily. They have been doing it for years trying to end an entire race!

P.S. I thank god every day that we succeeded in destroying ISIS otherwise we would have been arguing with @DrBeer over the "legitimacy" of the country of Daesh!!! which is the copy of Israel with the same extreme ideologies as the Zionist terrorists.
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November 16, 2023, 01:12:56 PM
#77
Even though those brands have their own choices where to take side, this war doesn't make any sense at all.

I mean, both sides has their own reasons why they are fighting for their land, who the true owner really is, but this could be resolve in a way where no innocent lives are being taken. We just love to show how superior we are in a certain country, no matter what kind of countermeasures it is, continues bombing, killing people until they surrender, and conquer their land to widen up the kingdom.

I wouldn't doubt if one day human will be extinct, and mother earth would be left destroyed by exchanging nuclear bombs just to show who's the boss, what a pathetic society we live in.
I think this is a wrong move and people should not show that they support either Israel or Palestine by hating on products whether it is owned by Israel or not. This is not a good way to stop the war. I don't really blame Israel because they are trying their best to fight against terrorists that invaded their country. I believe no country would be invaded by another country and they would relax and not do anything. It is best for us to think twice and not hate on any nations. There should be negotiation for this war to end and that is what want to see.
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November 16, 2023, 01:00:40 PM
#76
The issue here is boycotting products or companies that are supporting Israel, Most of the companies on the list are very big companies and I don't think it will have effect on them long term, they may feel the effect short term because of drop in revenue, but they are likely to recover. The Israel/Hamas war just shows the hypocrisies of the world, this is a complex issue and I don't like to discuss this because of the complexity of it, religion and politics is involved, and the media will only tell you half-truth depending on whose interest the owner of the channel is supporting. The world need to embrace peace so much bloodshed
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November 16, 2023, 12:39:42 PM
#75
Not every people want to spend more money for a same thing, more importantly not every country can survive with their own resources, many country still depend on import as they can get cheaper price or they completely don't have that due to many reasons e.g. bad weather, limited resource, lack of human resource etc.
The traders of a country can arrange things because they have access to a lot of resources. If people leave some product, for example, some perfume, which is abandoned by the citizens due to Boycott, they will come up with some other perfume from some other country because they know the consumers have money and at the end they (consumers) have to buy perfume, so it is better to provide them with another brand of perfume.
Shifting from big business which can sell cheap stuff to local business which charge higher will make people become poor,
Well, that would be immoral for the local businesses to do that, but if they do, they can be charged because everyone has a rate list, which should be followed, and a rate list should be issued by the government, and the implementation of the rate list should also be assured by the government.
I'm sure the criminal rate will increase as not every citizen agree to work hard to rebuilt their economy back.
Well, that would be immoral too and government should focus on it and should implement required steps to decrease the crime rate.
legendary
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November 16, 2023, 12:26:16 PM
#74
who created these two states?
countries in the Middle East are as old as Egypt. countries that were already there long before Christ was born. suddenly someone created two states. Cheesy
it doesn't really matter now because they are now established. they do have governments in fact the first president of Israel has a Palestine passport.

boycotting though will only fuel the war. if they are up to make peace, they just put walls on each other and not grab each other's land.
there is no adult in the room anymore but just keep shooting.


Let's give everything to the Neanderthals - they lived there long before Egypt and the existence of any Middle Eastern countries Smiley
After all, the territories now called the Middle East were inhabited by Neanderthals in the Middle Paleolithic (120 thousand - 40 thousand years BC). Or is that not it?
Ok, if this doesn’t fit, let’s give it to the Natufians! They lived there in 13-10 thousand BC. uh...In 1947 there were opportunities, there were agreements. But someone decided that he was smarter than everyone else and began a massacre that has been going on for 70 years... Maybe someone should be engaged in the creation and development of their countries and not the destruction of others? How is this an option!? Smiley
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