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Topic: BPMC Launch BF1 USB miner - probably the fastest USB miner in the World - page 14. (Read 42042 times)

sr. member
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You should have realized by now that the community has been learning a lot from the past months.

Don't complain about your costs being high... that's your problem. Make better decisions next time.

Almost everyone is in this for the money and the ones who are not just got run over by your minimum order.

So please, improve your pricing.
hero member
Activity: 784
Merit: 1004
Glow Stick Dance!
why are people hating on some ASIC guys who ACTUALLY HAVE A PRODUCT READY TO SHIP? I mean seriously, how ungrateful are people? If you don't like the price don't buy it. There are plenty of other options for your money out there, so why make them feel like shit and provoke a fight with them just because it turns out they can't make the product at a price the market wants to pay? It's not like they will go homeless, they will just mine with them.



I know.  Right?

I think there are just a lot of bitter, spiteful people for whatever reason.  Some may be bitter that the days of GPU mining for BTC are long gone.  Others just may not have spare cash or BTC to invest and are jealous.  But I think the majority of them just hate change and fear the unknown.

I personally get excited about most of the new product announcements and find it hard to resist diving in head first and joining every damn preorder, lol.  Admittedly, this is still just a hobby for me but fast turning into more of an avocation.  But I don't delude myself and think I'll be able to retire and live off my BTC earnings... ever.  ROI, schmROI!  I'm having a blast doing this!  If I lose a few pennies, I won't starve.  But so far, it's been worth every one of those (many, many) pennies.
hero member
Activity: 539
Merit: 500
Funny I remember the price dropped as SOON as we posted... BE's not blades and when we dropped our prices they dropped them again in the group buys funny eh? Not because of difficulty. Check the dates on our posts and the price drops in the Block Erupters. Direct correlation when we were running our K1 Nano sales.

This.  Friedcat is using first mover advantage to Max profits.  Whether you like any of the products or pricing doesn't matter, the new entrants have an uphill battle since he's found that each new competitor and diff increase knocks down a price barrier that he can meet or beat, for now.
hero member
Activity: 630
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Miner Setup And Reviews. WASP Rep.
interested, Canada shipping?

Was hoping for Canada shipping too Smiley  Hook me up! Smiley
Canada shipping should be fine.
legendary
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interested, Canada shipping?

Was hoping for Canada shipping too Smiley  Hook me up! Smiley
legendary
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Merit: 1001
I wonder what price people would actually be willing to pay for these.

Let's have a mock auction to find out.  Please only bid if you would realistically actually pay this amount.

I'd pay .5BTC each

Also those who are actually buying at 2.1BTC post in here, as I'm really curious as to how many people are actually buying at that price; especially with the 5qty min. as that pretty much cuts out anyone who would bought as a collectable/curiosity.

BMPC I feel for you, but at some point you are going to have to come to terms with the fact that you are probably going to take at least 50% loss on your investment whether you mine yourself or sell them at cut prices; cuz I can't see there being enough "miners" that are going to come in and eat the loss for you
hero member
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Miner Setup And Reviews. WASP Rep.
1 month to go before there finished mining with these and the PANIC SELL ! will begin
This won't happen. As has been said before if we can't sell for a profit then we will just mine.
How much profit?

Bitfury chip $20, rest of the parts $20,  2.1BTC = $290


Some comparisons:

Drillbit Bitfury thumb .99BTC 2.5GH/s

Block Erupter USB x 6 = 0.96BTC 2GH/s

Block Erupter blade = 3.9BTC 10/GH/s (ships immediately)

BFL 5GH/s miner = 2BTC

Lets get real with the 2.1BTC pricing, I guess there are suckers out there.


Chips cost us $130 each.
Rest of the parts also cost more then $20

Those chips that have become available to purchase today. For € 22.5 or $30 USD
They also don't ship till the 20th.

"Chips ship out within 24h (excluding weekends) after placing order starting from 20th of september. (We expect to ship first chips on that date)."
Also these are the only other USB miners proved hashing and on hand.
hero member
Activity: 1008
Merit: 501
1 month to go before there finished mining with these and the PANIC SELL ! will begin
This won't happen. As has been said before if we can't sell for a profit then we will just mine.
How much profit?

Bitfury chip $20, rest of the parts $20,  2.1BTC = $290


Some comparisons:

Drillbit Bitfury thumb .99BTC 2.5GH/s

Block Erupter USB x 6 = 0.96BTC 2GH/s

Block Erupter blade = 3.9BTC 10/GH/s (ships immediately)

BFL 5GH/s miner = 2BTC

Lets get real with the 2.1BTC pricing, I guess there are suckers out there.



+1

You can not forget this
Quote
For my units, Minimum order is 5 pieces,

5 Units = 10.5BTC WTF?? = 12.6GH/S
2 Blades = 7/8/9 BTC = 20 GH/S








hero member
Activity: 924
Merit: 1000
Funny I remember the price dropped as SOON as we posted... BE's not blades and when we dropped our prices they dropped them again in the group buys funny eh? Not because of difficulty. Check the dates on our posts and the price drops in the Block Erupters. Direct correlation when we were running our K1 Nano sales.

I suggest that even when the product is put into the marketplace there are immediate responses from some companies to cut the throats of any competition seems pretty clear. Might want to support efforts for more product choice over the current system. I am sure the market will mature and this little offering will lead to better things.

erk
hero member
Activity: 826
Merit: 500
1 month to go before there finished mining with these and the PANIC SELL ! will begin
This won't happen. As has been said before if we can't sell for a profit then we will just mine.
How much profit?

Bitfury chip $20, rest of the parts $20,  2.1BTC = $290


Some comparisons:

Drillbit Bitfury thumb .99BTC 2.5GH/s

Block Erupter USB x 6 = 0.96BTC 2GH/s

Block Erupter blade = 3.9BTC 10/GH/s (ships immediately)

BFL 5GH/s miner = 2BTC

Lets get real with the 2.1BTC pricing, I guess there are suckers out there.

legendary
Activity: 1204
Merit: 1002
RUM AND CARROTS: A PIRATE LIFE FOR ME
why are people hating on some ASIC guys who ACTUALLY HAVE A PRODUCT READY TO SHIP? I mean seriously, how ungrateful are people? If you don't like the price don't buy it. There are plenty of other options for your money out there, so why make them feel like shit and provoke a fight with them just because it turns out they can't make the product at a price the market wants to pay? It's not like they will go homeless, they will just mine with them.

hero member
Activity: 630
Merit: 501
Miner Setup And Reviews. WASP Rep.
1 month to go before there finished mining with these and the PANIC SELL ! will begin
This won't happen. As has been said before if we can't sell for a profit then we will just mine.
legendary
Activity: 1148
Merit: 1001
things you own end up owning you
As Jesse Pinkman would say, "It's economics bitch!"

BTW I do not give a shit about you buying or not, I am discussing the price with original poster out of my point of view, even he didn't get angry!! he is answering my question in a very respectful way, But never mind I told him about people like you. you are just a retard and I have nothing to say to you any more i wont go to your level once again.

My level?!  Did you not just call me a "sucker" (several times) and a "retard"?  You couldn't reach my level if you were standing on a ladder.

Simpleton.

Oh and I'm sure the OP has great respect for you since you're shitting all over his thread with your useless whining.

what are you waiting for? go ahead threw your BTC on them... like I give a shit !!! welcome to my ignore list. end of story....
hero member
Activity: 784
Merit: 1004
Glow Stick Dance!
As Jesse Pinkman would say, "It's economics bitch!"

BTW I do not give a shit about you buying or not, I am discussing the price with original poster out of my point of view, even he didn't get angry!! he is answering my question in a very respectful way, But never mind I told him about people like you. you are just a retard and I have nothing to say to you any more i wont go to your level once again.

My level?!  Did you not just call me a "sucker" (several times) and a "retard"?  You couldn't reach my level if you were standing on a ladder.

Simpleton.

Oh and I'm sure the OP has great respect for you since you're shitting all over his thread with your useless whining.
full member
Activity: 140
Merit: 100
1 month to go before there finished mining with these and the PANIC SELL ! will begin
legendary
Activity: 1148
Merit: 1001
things you own end up owning you
As Jesse Pinkman would say, "It's economics bitch!"

BTW I do not give a shit about you buying or not, I am discussing the price with original poster out of my point of view, even he didn't get angry!! he is answering my question in a very respectful way, But never mind I told him about people like you. you are just a retard and I have nothing to say to you any more i wont go to your level once again.
legendary
Activity: 1204
Merit: 1002
RUM AND CARROTS: A PIRATE LIFE FOR ME
BPMC are very pleased to announce that we have limited numbers of the single BitFury chip USB miner in hand and for sale.
These units are re-programmable and hash at 2.5Gh/s with present installed firmware on bfgminer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dB3U7iyiauk

more details tomorrow,

cheers,
kev

When you say they are re-programmable, to what extent is that possible? Could they be reprogrammed to work with VanityGen for example, to allow for custom Vanity addressess to be generated?

We use an ATMEL - ATMEGA32U2-AU which is 8 Bit 32KB mem controller.
you can find out all the details about programming on the ATMEL website.

cheers,
kev.


Okay, but what does that mean practically? Is it just a controller chip meaning you can only reprogram it to control it differently? What sort of scenario did you guys envision as being enabled by reprogramining?
hero member
Activity: 784
Merit: 1004
Glow Stick Dance!
Price didn't drop because of that !!! price dropped because of difficulty, than explain why blades cost only 4BTC? because of your USB miners ?

Well you didn't put any thought into your answer, did you?

Of course competition, or the threat of competition, can cause prices to fall.  So can excess inventory, decreased demand, cheaper production and of material costs, difficulty rise (in the case of bitcoin) and many other reasons or combination of reasons.

What can't happen for any length of time is, you can't sell something for less than it costs to produce.  So quit bitching about overpriced ASICs and go back to mining LTC with your GPUs.   Roll Eyes

my GPUs make more money than you will ever make with these miners sucker, I am amazed that you still know how to calculate, I thought people like you doesn't know how to use a calculator but you proved that even after using one you still suck.

You're real bright, aren't you?   Roll Eyes
legendary
Activity: 1148
Merit: 1001
things you own end up owning you
Price didn't drop because of that !!! price dropped because of difficulty, than explain why blades cost only 4BTC? because of your USB miners ?

Well you didn't put any thought into your answer, did you?

Of course competition, or the threat of competition, can cause prices to fall.  So can excess inventory, decreased demand, cheaper production and of material costs, difficulty rise (in the case of bitcoin) and many other reasons or combination of reasons.

What can't happen for any length of time is, you can't sell something for less than it costs to produce.  So quit bitching about overpriced ASICs and go back to mining LTC with your GPUs.   Roll Eyes

my GPUs make more money than you will ever make with these miners sucker, I am amazed that you still know how to calculate, I thought people like you doesn't know how to use a calculator but you proved that even after using one you still suck.
hero member
Activity: 784
Merit: 1004
Glow Stick Dance!
As Jesse Pinkman would say, "It's economics bitch!"
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