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Topic: BPMC Launch BF1 USB miner - probably the fastest USB miner in the World - page 17. (Read 42042 times)

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Really unhappy with the pricing. With it being 1btc, would have picked up quite a few. With it being 2.1 (and all the args about USB hubs and extra ports), I will go to AM any day. .10 is their bulk price, and .16 is for anyone (no min) from Canary's group buy thread. You get these in couple of days!

Sorry but you had a great opportunity that you just blew up.
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Assuming a price of ~120 a chip, at current exchange rates Im still seeing over 150 in other costs. If you include a "small" profit, are yalls assembly costs really more expensive than the chip?

130$ is what we paid. Not at current exchange.

You have not calculated everything in and not accounted for the size of the production run, I would love to see your exact cost breakdown from start to finish including the EE etc. Your off the cuff calculations do not match with my spreadsheet.

I suggest that the "profit" here is minimal given the numbers produced and the time and money invested just to get this prototype working. Obviously $130 (1 BTC) would be selling at a loss. So again we are not gouging we are not profiteering here we are putting out a unit at the best price we can offer if people do want to buy that is the situation.
legendary
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things you own end up owning you
they all want to get rich out of miners, they found out that this is the best way. pathetic ...

That is wholly untrue.

Rich? I suggest you might want to find out the cost of fabrication and add that chip price to it then the time and effort for the development etc... there is no one in the Coop getting rich off these units. We priced where we can make a small profit for our members. We can't do any more than that with this run of units so do the calculations and determine if it is worth it. Not much more we can do than say that. But please do not think we are trying sucker people we want to offer the units out to the community if they buy they buy if they don't they don't.



we wont argue about your intentions, but who ever buy these at this price is a real sucker.
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$130 per chip... already 10$ out.
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BPMC are very pleased to announce that we have limited numbers of the single BitFury chip USB miner in hand and for sale.
These units are re-programmable and hash at 2.5Gh/s with present installed firmware on bfgminer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dB3U7iyiauk

more details tomorrow,

cheers,
kev

When you say they are re-programmable, to what extent is that possible? Could they be reprogrammed to work with VanityGen for example, to allow for custom Vanity addressess to be generated?

My guess Kev is talking about new firmware for CGMiner if we can get that done. Interesting though maybe that is possible we can ask the EE on that.
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Assuming a price of ~120 a chip, at current exchange rates Im still seeing over 150 in other costs. If you include a "small" profit, are yalls assembly costs really more expensive than the chip?
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BPMC are very pleased to announce that we have limited numbers of the single BitFury chip USB miner in hand and for sale.
These units are re-programmable and hash at 2.5Gh/s with present installed firmware on bfgminer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dB3U7iyiauk

more details tomorrow,

cheers,
kev

When you say they are re-programmable, to what extent is that possible? Could they be reprogrammed to work with VanityGen for example, to allow for custom Vanity addressess to be generated?
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they all want to get rich out of miners, they found out that this is the best way. pathetic ...

That is wholly untrue.

Rich? I suggest you might want to find out the cost of fabrication and add that chip price to it then the time and effort for the development etc... there is no one in the Coop getting rich off these units. We priced where we can make a small profit for our members. We can't do any more than that with this run of units so do the calculations and determine if it is worth it. Not much more we can do than say that. But please do not think we are trying sucker people we want to offer the units out to the community if they buy they buy if they don't they don't.

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^^^
Asicminer BE hashes at 336mh/s these do around 2.5
Asicminer BE's sell to new customers for around 0.3 BTC
this is "in-hand" hardware. the chips alone cost me $130 each
you do the math.

cheers,
kev

Have to look at the density as well.

10 USB ports at 3.36Gh/s vs. 10 USB ports at 25 Gh/s.
Less heat less cooling required etc... so if you are not calculating in hub costs the ROI is going to be skewed right?

Need to factor that in as well into the costs do we not?

Its a large negative ROI either way. Barntech is selling the same basic thing, to be shipped soon for less than half.

When?
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Have to look at the density as well.

10 USB ports at 3.36Gh/s vs. 10 USB ports at 25 Gh/s.
Less heat less cooling required etc... so if you are not calculating in hub costs the ROI is going to be skewed right?

Need to factor that in as well into the costs do we not?

They don't ROI even with no hubs and rubbing sticks together for power.
http://mining.thegenesisblock.com/a/609a8142a2

Never ROI unless we see smaller than 30% monthly jumps from here on out...lol
legendary
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things you own end up owning you
they all want to get rich out of miners, they found out that this is the best way. pathetic ...
legendary
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Have to look at the density as well.

10 USB ports at 3.36Gh/s vs. 10 USB ports at 25 Gh/s.
Less heat less cooling required etc... so if you are not calculating in hub costs the ROI is going to be skewed right?

Need to factor that in as well into the costs do we not?

They don't ROI even with no hubs and rubbing sticks together for power.
hero member
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Owner, Minersource.net
^^^
Asicminer BE hashes at 336mh/s these do around 2.5
Asicminer BE's sell to new customers for around 0.3 BTC
this is "in-hand" hardware. the chips alone cost me $130 each
you do the math.

cheers,
kev

Have to look at the density as well.

10 USB ports at 3.36Gh/s vs. 10 USB ports at 25 Gh/s.
Less heat less cooling required etc... so if you are not calculating in hub costs the ROI is going to be skewed right?

Need to factor that in as well into the costs do we not?

Its a large negative ROI either way. Barntech is selling the same basic thing, to be shipped soon for less than half.
hero member
Activity: 924
Merit: 1000
^^^
Asicminer BE hashes at 336mh/s these do around 2.5
Asicminer BE's sell to new customers for around 0.3 BTC
this is "in-hand" hardware. the chips alone cost me $130 each
you do the math.

cheers,
kev

Have to look at the density as well.

10 USB ports at 3.36Gh/s vs. 10 USB ports at 25 Gh/s.
Less heat less cooling required etc... so if you are not calculating in hub costs the ROI is going to be skewed right?

Need to factor that in as well into the costs do we not?
How many hubs would you need to buy to get the same hash rate?

Again... we are not trying to SUCKER anyone. Clearly anyone can do the math and determine the answer on ROI but remember to factor in the hubs into the equation. With this run of units we are constrained by the cost of the chips as I warned. What we do not sell we will mine.
erk
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^^^
Asicminer BE hashes at 336mh/s these do around 2.5
Asicminer BE's sell to new customers for around 0.3 BTC
this is "in-hand" hardware. the chips alone cost me $130 each
you do the math.

cheers,
kev
I bought some ASICminer BE a few days ago at 0.175BTC, next batch I am told will be about 0.16BTC ea.



legendary
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Asicminer BE's sell to new customers for around 0.3 BTC

wrong, they sell for 0.15 for US end customers, and 0.21 for Europe end customers.

good luck selling these to some suckers
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Owner, Minersource.net
^^^
Asicminer BE hashes at 336mh/s these do around 2.5
Asicminer BE's sell to new customers for around 0.3 BTC
this is "in-hand" hardware. the chips alone cost me $130 each
you do the math.

cheers,
kev
Where do you get the BEs are .35 each? They are available from a whole smattering of people (including myself) for a maximum of .18.
The chips may have cost you $130, but the sad reality of all this stuff is something that is worth $130 one week is worth half that 2 weeks later.
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This is not good for my Chi... Yifu
^^^
Asicminer BE hashes at 336mh/s these do around 2.5
Asicminer BE's sell to new customers for around 0.3 BTC
this is "in-hand" hardware. the chips alone cost me $130 each
you do the math.

cheers,
kev
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