'Brexit' could trigger World War Three, warns David Cameron - page 10.

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Quote from: Wilikon on May 16, 2016, 04:15:01 PM

Then you have people like

Angelina Jolie Pitt: ‘Don’t Brexit, and Keep your Borders Open to Migrants’

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/05/16/angelina-jolie-borders-open-migrants/

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Angelina doesn't have a vote. It is amazing the amount of people from abroad who have been trying to sway the vote: Obama, Trump, the IMF, the World Bank, NATO, various people from Hollywood, every single leader of an EU country, and we've still got a month to go!

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Quote from: Wilikon on May 16, 2016, 04:15:01 PM

Then you have people like

Angelina Jolie Pitt: ‘Don’t Brexit, and Keep your Borders Open to Migrants’

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/05/16/angelina-jolie-borders-open-migrants/

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Hollywood people, totally ignorant of how the average folks lives. Still, I don't think brexit could change many things regarding immigration. All the young men sleeping rough in Calais and waiting to cross the channel don't care much about the UK being in or out of EU.

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Quote from: alyssa85 on May 16, 2016, 01:31:53 PM

Quote from: bryant.coleman on May 14, 2016, 03:02:47 PM

Quote from: Evildrum on May 10, 2016, 04:04:15 PM

Quote from: alyssa85 on May 10, 2016, 11:27:02 AM

I'm afraid I laughed when I read the title. He is undermining his case by making silly statements. I wonder what got into him - did he see polls that showed Leave ahead and panicked?

Its exactly the same situation as the Scotland vote,the vote to leave was ahead till the last hours but the people voted to stay after Cameron got out the rhetoric stick and started to scare people. Why throw away a winning strategy when it is still effective!
No matter how silly it may seem people eat it up repeatedly till they dont.

The tactic is to mobilize the demographic groups which are opposed to the referendum. In case of the Scottish referendum, Cameron's scaremongering successfully mobilized large groups of pensioners and the elderly, who swung the momentum towards the "better together" side. The over-65 turnout was very high on 18th Sep 2014.

The interesting thing is that this time the over 65s are most in favour of Brexit and they're likely to turn out to vote. Their pensions arn't at stake, the stakes in general are lower than in the Scottish referendum.

Then you have people like

Angelina Jolie Pitt: ‘Don’t Brexit, and Keep your Borders Open to Migrants’

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/05/16/angelina-jolie-borders-open-migrants/

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on May 14, 2016, 03:02:47 PM

Quote from: Evildrum on May 10, 2016, 04:04:15 PM

Quote from: alyssa85 on May 10, 2016, 11:27:02 AM

I'm afraid I laughed when I read the title. He is undermining his case by making silly statements. I wonder what got into him - did he see polls that showed Leave ahead and panicked?

Its exactly the same situation as the Scotland vote,the vote to leave was ahead till the last hours but the people voted to stay after Cameron got out the rhetoric stick and started to scare people. Why throw away a winning strategy when it is still effective!
No matter how silly it may seem people eat it up repeatedly till they dont.

The tactic is to mobilize the demographic groups which are opposed to the referendum. In case of the Scottish referendum, Cameron's scaremongering successfully mobilized large groups of pensioners and the elderly, who swung the momentum towards the "better together" side. The over-65 turnout was very high on 18th Sep 2014.

The interesting thing is that this time the over 65s are most in favour of Brexit and they're likely to turn out to vote. Their pensions arn't at stake, the stakes in general are lower than in the Scottish referendum.

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Quote from: NUFCrichard on May 16, 2016, 12:59:41 PM

People claim that the Eu has somehow prevented wars, but if you look at other parts of the world that aren't in the EU, they haven't had any/many major wars either.

The EU hasn't prevented catalonia wanting independence, or Scotland. It didn't stop war in Europe when Yugoslavia split up. Ok Western Europe hasn't had a war with itself, but it didn't from the end of the WW2 until the EU starting either!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Lists_of_wars_by_date

I dont wanna be offensive but did you live on the moon the past 15 years o.O

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People claim that the Eu has somehow prevented wars, but if you look at other parts of the world that aren't in the EU, they haven't had any/many major wars either.

The EU hasn't prevented catalonia wanting independence, or Scotland. It didn't stop war in Europe when Yugoslavia split up. Ok Western Europe hasn't had a war with itself, but it didn't from the end of the WW2 until the EU starting either!

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To strong words, in my opinion.
Politicians always have to make 'big' drama about everything, like that end of world will start tomorrow if UK left EU.
Nonsense.
UK is to much important country for EU so I'm sure that both sides already prepared scenarios for both cases.
In the worst case scenario, I'm sure UK and EU will arrange some special agreement about special status of UK in European Union.
I don't think much will change, any way.
Cameron is politician with agenda and he is trying to scare people, in order to get desired result and avoid any legal complication later.
Don't be naive and don't trust politicians.

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Well, at least Cameron is humble enough to acknowledge that Britain needs to remain a member of the EU.

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Personally I think 'Brexit' is the way to go. In an age where every country is scrambling to be part of a bigger organism a country like the UK saying no to the trend is exactly what the world needs. I believe the European Union is something that cannot work in the long term, getting out now is a wise move.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on May 15, 2016, 02:26:42 AM

There is no gender gap this time around. The younger voters are in favor of remaining in the EU, while the middle-aged and the elderly are voting for Brexit.

Funny how the elderly might decide for the whole younger generation. ...

It's like "we already destroyed your country your economy and your planet, but we're not leaving without also deciding how your political life should be!"

The odds shouldn't have the right to vote. Or at least shouldn't have the same importance. Why the he'll can a 85 years old grandma who don't even know what Internet is decide of the fate of the country at the same level than a 20 years old student while she gonna dies in 5 years?!

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Quote from: by.Szun on May 09, 2016, 01:01:47 AM

Quote from: Wilikon on May 08, 2016, 09:42:58 PM

Re: 'Brexit' could trigger World War Three, warns David Cameron

At present, the biggest threats to Europe as a whole are socialism and bankruptcy. with the war politics that result from such.

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The U.K. will not leave the EU. All you socialist retards/chattel are going down the toilet together. Enjoy.

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There were a couple of politicians, Juncker foremostly, who said the same in regards to the Geenpeil referendum in the Netherlands. It's overly obvious fallacies from parties who see their power slip through their fingers: argumentun ad baculum, 'if you don't do as I say I will kill you'.

quite cheap.

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Out of the 5 most recent opinion polls, 3 have shown the LEAVE campaign on top. The latest one has LEAVE at 46% and STAY at 44%. The difference is still within the margin of error.

https://www.icmunlimited.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/9-May-2016.pdf

There is no gender gap this time around. The younger voters are in favor of remaining in the EU, while the middle-aged and the elderly are voting for Brexit.

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Quote from: Wilikon on May 08, 2016, 09:42:58 PM

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/brexit-could-trigger-world-war-7928607

Little bit of exageration and fearmongering there. I think an asteroid hitting the planet is more likely.

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Quote from: countryfree on May 10, 2016, 06:36:36 PM

It's a bit far-fetched, but there's no denying Brexit would destroy what's left of European unity. There shall be a new Europe between Germany, the Netherlands and the few countries which have finances in order, but Switzerland, though not in the EU, would call for a revision of its partnership with the EU, Spain would relaunch pressure against Gibraltar, Greece would loose most of its supporters to stay, and Hungary, Slovakia, Poland and the Czech republic would form a new bloc not afraid to stand up against Germany. Don't think any of these could lead to a war, but tensions would rise.

Where would the money they need come from? Will russia finance all that fantasies? Roll Eyes

Im willing to bet on no brexit and no ww3

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Quote from: Evildrum on May 10, 2016, 04:04:15 PM

Quote from: alyssa85 on May 10, 2016, 11:27:02 AM

I'm afraid I laughed when I read the title. He is undermining his case by making silly statements. I wonder what got into him - did he see polls that showed Leave ahead and panicked?

Its exactly the same situation as the Scotland vote,the vote to leave was ahead till the last hours but the people voted to stay after Cameron got out the rhetoric stick and started to scare people. Why throw away a winning strategy when it is still effective!
No matter how silly it may seem people eat it up repeatedly till they dont.

The tactic is to mobilize the demographic groups which are opposed to the referendum. In case of the Scottish referendum, Cameron's scaremongering successfully mobilized large groups of pensioners and the elderly, who swung the momentum towards the "better together" side. The over-65 turnout was very high on 18th Sep 2014.

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It's a bit far-fetched, but there's no denying Brexit would destroy what's left of European unity. There shall be a new Europe between Germany, the Netherlands and the few countries which have finances in order, but Switzerland, though not in the EU, would call for a revision of its partnership with the EU, Spain would relaunch pressure against Gibraltar, Greece would loose most of its supporters to stay, and Hungary, Slovakia, Poland and the Czech republic would form a new bloc not afraid to stand up against Germany. Don't think any of these could lead to a war, but tensions would rise.

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Quote from: gentlemand on May 10, 2016, 04:16:50 PM

This is an interesting line of reasoning. I somehow struggle to see how it's going to turn Europe into a rabid pit of hate but I'll retain an open mind.

If the UK leaves the EU, German companies in the UK (that means about a half of the remaining UK industry) have to pay taxes in the UK instead of pumping the money to home. Merkel would be furious. That would screw the financial backing of her savage breeding programs, so she would surely unleash her ~~Tigers~~ Leopards... in worst case she might even unleash all three Leopards what they haven't already sold for scrap. Terrifying outlook. Isn't it?

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This is an interesting line of reasoning. I somehow struggle to see how it's going to turn Europe into a rabid pit of hate but I'll retain an open mind.

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Quote from: alyssa85 on May 10, 2016, 11:27:02 AM

I'm afraid I laughed when I read the title. He is undermining his case by making silly statements. I wonder what got into him - did he see polls that showed Leave ahead and panicked?

Its exactly the same situation as the Scotland vote,the vote to leave was ahead till the last hours but the people voted to stay after Cameron got out the rhetoric stick and started to scare people. Why throw away a winning strategy when it is still effective!
No matter how silly it may seem people eat it up repeatedly till they dont.

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