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Topic: btc-arbs.com - Update: dead HYIP, Refund progress: BTC-arbs still doing refunds - page 53. (Read 276958 times)

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One thing I don't completely understand about the web site hacking is: Even if the web site is hacked, it's just a visual representation of what profits are being made. Most if not all the money would have to be in exchanges. I don't recall reading or hearing about multiple exchanges being hacked. I could be naive in how the whole process worked, but it just seems like in order to do arbitrage you would need multiple accounts in multiple exchanges and money in all of them, not sitting on a web sever.

He claims that the hackers changed the deposit address on the website so people transferred directly to the hackers instead of Btc-arbs addresses, furthermore he claims that some user accounts were compromised and they requested a withdrawal to their addresses.
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One thing I don't completely understand about the web site hacking is: Even if the web site is hacked, it's just a visual representation of what profits are being made. Most if not all the money would have to be in exchanges. I don't recall reading or hearing about multiple exchanges being hacked. I could be naive in how the whole process worked, but it just seems like in order to do arbitrage you would need multiple accounts in multiple exchanges and money in all of them, not sitting on a web sever.
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Try our system, no ponzi, no scam
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7387474

Pumping and dumping is a scam, meant to steal money from people.  
Trying to take advantage of a bad situation is low and dishonest.
At this point I have little doubt you are also lying, scammers always claim they are being honest.

From your FAQ:
" Do you have other source of Bitcoin income ?
We run 396 Terahash mining farm,  powered with our own 250 kW mini hydropower station. So, electricity for mining is practically FREE.  We mine most profitable altcoins."

Really?  396 Ths for altcoins?  Probably you meant bitcoin and 396 THs would likely cost over $1 Million US.   Then you are nickel and diming for .05 BTC to .5 BTC accounts.   

TOTAL SCAM.

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Try our system, no ponzi, no scam
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7387474

Ohh let me jump right on this and loose some more coins... YAY..


Why do these people even post here???

LOL
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Try our system, no ponzi, no scam
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7387474

Ohh let me jump right on this and loose some more coins... YAY..


Why do these people even post here???
newbie
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I am actually glad to see he is still working on this.  I think he has some charactor to him that I am personally glad to see.  Im going to go back to reading and not posting now.
newbie
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OK.. then .05 a round... each round should get smaller and smaller as lower investors get paid back in full.  I'd rather see .05 every 2 weeks, then wait 1+years to see 3.2 coins!
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Judging from the above list - This would mean that all others would be waiting 1+years for a payment.  based on previous payouts, it will take him a while to pay Freejack Alone - Let alone the others.  I am for the First Come / First Serve BUT we should try to get an initial payment out to everyone first - before second payouts.

IE: Start on the list with First Come First Serve - and send out an initial .25BTC  until entire list is fulfilled.  Then start at the top again and pay an additional .25 BTC going down using First Come First Serve.  (Would need to take a snapshot of the list - and anyone who adds after this point would need to wait until 2nd round)

I think this option is the most fair one.


I second this. The payments in rounds is a great idea. Very fair.

There is currently 133 users in the spreadsheet that need to be refunded.   If the rounds were only .05 BTC, the first round would still take 6.65 BTC or likely two weeks to get through.   The second round slightly less BTC.   At .25 BTC it would take about 30 BTC to get the list, which is double the amount refunded today.   So it would probably take months per round at the rate things have been going.   Somehow I think there would still be a lot of unhappy people.
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Judging from the above list - This would mean that all others would be waiting 1+years for a payment.  based on previous payouts, it will take him a while to pay Freejack Alone - Let alone the others.  I am for the First Come / First Serve BUT we should try to get an initial payment out to everyone first - before second payouts.

IE: Start on the list with First Come First Serve - and send out an initial .25BTC  until entire list is fulfilled.  Then start at the top again and pay an additional .25 BTC going down using First Come First Serve.  (Would need to take a snapshot of the list - and anyone who adds after this point would need to wait until 2nd round)

I think this option is the most fair one.


I second this. The payments in rounds is a great idea. Very fair.
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It is good to see the payments continuing.

indeed, unfortunally haven't seen any  Sad

Neither have I

I felt the same way before I was paid.   I sent my PM/email early on the 29th of May.   Hopefully he will have some huge gains and play off more people soon.  You guys had a lot more in there than me so that probably makes things harder too.   
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It is good to see the payments continuing.

indeed, unfortunally haven't seen any  Sad

Neither have I
newbie
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It is good to see the payments continuing.

indeed, unfortunally haven't seen any  Sad
hero member
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This forum requires 6 minutes between PM replies. I cannot reply to all messages to say that they were received. If you sent a message then it was received.

2 full PM refunds sent.
1 partial PM refund to lesnod.


It is good to see the payments continuing.
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Long the wait is for those who have not received anything, importate, is the commitment to pay all of BTC Arbs, BTC 0.50 Cv, I come well to begin with. thanks
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Judging from the above list - This would mean that all others would be waiting 1+years for a payment.  based on previous payouts, it will take him a while to pay Freejack Alone - Let alone the others.  I am for the First Come / First Serve BUT we should try to get an initial payment out to everyone first - before second payouts.

IE: Start on the list with First Come First Serve - and send out an initial .25BTC  until entire list is fulfilled.  Then start at the top again and pay an additional .25 BTC going down using First Come First Serve.  (Would need to take a snapshot of the list - and anyone who adds after this point would need to wait until 2nd round)

I think this option is the most fair one.
newbie
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BTC-ARBS

Their seems to be a large group of people on this forum who are asking for more transparency.  We have asked in multiple different ways, and all of our cries have gone unanswered.  This doesn't do well to keeping the crowd calm. 

We are requesting the following:

1) Acknowledgement that you received / confirmed our amount owed.

2) A list or plan for repayment.  When can people expect to be paid back?  In what order?

The above will go a long way in calming people down, and I'm sure it will certainly help with the duplicate e-mails/requests.  If we can help/assist in any way, I know a number of us are more then willing to lend a hand - if it means as a whole we get through this ordeal quicker!  I know several people have reached out to you with suggestions/advise but their cries have also gone unheard.  In the first post, almost 3 weeks ago, you mentioned that you were open to suggestions on how we can make this a better process.  Recent events have shown us that this simply isn't the case.

I know personally I sent my information in June 1st, and still haven't seen or heard anything.  Not even a small installment payment! I know I'm not alone on this.

Please take a moment to listen to our requests.  It will make this process easier for all involved (Including you). 




I joined this forum when I heard about the refunds. Sent my info in a PM and also sent an email. This was towards the end of May. Haven't sent anymore because I don't want to get bumped to the bottom of the list as has been mentioned by BTC Arbs. I am growing tired of having no response, yet people that have sent the guy a PM in the last week seem to be getting refunds. How the hell are these prioritized?


Nobody knows.
Last payments have been made at June 17th.

Based on who sent their messages first (according to the spreadsheet) I thinks these people should receive payments first:

May 29:
tom14cat14: 1,5 BTC
graylend: 9 BTC
   Total: 11,5 BTC


May 30:
Tompkins: 0,32 BTC
bad01nk: 0,65 BTC
ButterStuff: 1 BTC
worldlybedouin: 1,25 BTC
lefebret: 1,36 BTC
thwthewrew: 2 BTC
broznic: 2,23 BTC
s1m0n: 3,17 BTC
thor4: 10 BTC
causis: 11,5 BTC
   Total: 33,48 BTC


May 31:
Alborado1990: 0,14 BTC
Jasontx: 0,88 BTC
stocky: 0,93 BTC
MrMateria: 0,79 BTC
airwalker2662: 1,06 BTC
korniza: 1,15 BTC
lesnod11: 2,45 BTC (received partial payment)
Slipknot79: 3,25 BTC
FreeJack2k2: 24,8 BTC (received partial payment)
   Total: 35,45 BTC

please note: there are many blanks in the spreadsheet from people who did not add their message details, since I can't see when they've sent their messages I did not add them to the lists above.




Judging from the above list - This would mean that all others would be waiting 1+years for a payment.  based on previous payouts, it will take him a while to pay Freejack Alone - Let alone the others.  I am for the First Come / First Serve BUT we should try to get an initial payment out to everyone first - before second payouts.

IE: Start on the list with First Come First Serve - and send out an initial .25BTC  until entire list is fulfilled.  Then start at the top again and pay an additional .25 BTC going down using First Come First Serve.  (Would need to take a snapshot of the list - and anyone who adds after this point would need to wait until 2nd round)
newbie
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BTC-ARBS

I understand replying to PM's in the forum might not be the best way due to the 5 minute timeout.  We had suggested a Read-Only GDOCS Sheet or similar.  You would have exclusive control over the sheet, all others can only view.  Here we would have the Username / Amount Owed / Confirmed Amount Owed

Username=BTC-Arbs Username (We already have this on the current sheet - not hard to copy/paste)
Amount Owed = This is the amount We say we are owed (Already have a list of this as well)
Confirmed Amount Owed = This is the amount you have also verified on your end that we are owed. 

This would involve the least amount of work for you.  You have to verify the amounts anyways - so why not publicly open it up.

If you are not sure how to set this up - I'm sure their are a number of people on this forum that can/will assist.

If anyone else has a better idea - Please share.
member
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BTC-ARBS

Their seems to be a large group of people on this forum who are asking for more transparency.  We have asked in multiple different ways, and all of our cries have gone unanswered.  This doesn't do well to keeping the crowd calm. 

We are requesting the following:

1) Acknowledgement that you received / confirmed our amount owed.

2) A list or plan for repayment.  When can people expect to be paid back?  In what order?

The above will go a long way in calming people down, and I'm sure it will certainly help with the duplicate e-mails/requests.  If we can help/assist in any way, I know a number of us are more then willing to lend a hand - if it means as a whole we get through this ordeal quicker!  I know several people have reached out to you with suggestions/advise but their cries have also gone unheard.  In the first post, almost 3 weeks ago, you mentioned that you were open to suggestions on how we can make this a better process.  Recent events have shown us that this simply isn't the case.

I know personally I sent my information in June 1st, and still haven't seen or heard anything.  Not even a small installment payment! I know I'm not alone on this.

Please take a moment to listen to our requests.  It will make this process easier for all involved (Including you). 


BTC-ARBS
Please answer to this post
Or at least explain us WHY you are not doing a list of users that you are going to refund. We need to know men.
member
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This forum requires 6 minutes between PM replies. I cannot reply to all messages to say that they were received. If you sent a message then it was received.

2 full PM refunds sent.
1 partial PM refund to lesnod.
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