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Topic: btc-arbs.com - Update: dead HYIP, Refund progress: BTC-arbs still doing refunds - page 83. (Read 276958 times)

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The Whole Story - From BTC-Arbs ADMIN

I am aware that this post may fall upon deaf ears, given the mob mentality that seems to have developed as a fallout from BTC-Arbs, however I am here with the ultimate goal of resolving the issues that currently face everyone involved. Before I get into my future plans I feel it is necessary to share a bit of background information on BTC-Arbs.

Scam Allegations

BTC Arbs was not created to be a scam, and was never intended to rip off investors. Bitcoin arbitrage is possible and many Bitcoin users have realized this and have started arbitrage trading on their own. Bitcoin arbitrage trading took place and earnings were made. Anyone who has ever looked at bitcoinaverage dot com can confirm this. The prices vary greatly from exchange to exchange, and there are always variations on the price. Even today, you can buy Bitcoin on BTCE for $556 and then sell it immediately on Bitstamp for $572. That produces a 2.7% profit, which is closer to 2% after exchange fees and transfer costs.

BTC-Arbs was not created to scam users.

Hacking

In early April, the BTC Arbs website was hacked. Numerous members can corroborate this fact. Many accounts were accessed and large amounts of Bitcoin were withdrawn. When this first started occurring, we were under the impression that it was due to users who had failed to secure their accounts with 2-factor authentication and who had been infected with a virus. It then became apparent that the website was not secure and the issue was impacting hundreds of accounts. HUNDREDS of Bitcoins were paid out that should not have been. To make matters worse, our incoming Bitcoin addresses were changed and hackers stole all of the incoming coins. When we tried to fix the issue, we just kept getting hacked over and over. Finally the problem was solved, but it was too late.

After the hacking, the plan was to use profits to re-liquidate the program, however people continued to withdraw, which ultimately lead to the overall failure and "reset". This can be referred to as a run on the bank.

100,000 Bitcoin Address

Those who believe that the 100,000 Bitcoin address belongs to BTC-Arbs are crazy. The total value of ALL BTC-Arbs accounts is more or less 500 Bitcoins. We weren't some billion dollar scam. The average user had less than 1 Bitcoin in their account. There are only 7 users with balances over 20 Bitcoins. There were less than 1000 accounts with Bitcoins in them.

Re-Incarnation

Upon resetting the program, the plan was to pay back all users using future profits. The plan was going well and members of Bitcoin Talk can attest that withdrawals were being paid and that many users had begun receiving a good portion of their investments back. The plan was going well until angry users decided to:
- Hack the website further
- Initiate a prolonged DDOS attack against the server
- File a trademark complaint for the domain (WTF???)
- Freeze fiat accounts (preventing refunds)

Apology

I am VERY VERY VERY SORRY that the outcome of BTC-Arbs was what it was. I had dreams of running the first large and legitimate Bitcoin Arbitrage investment company that could have one day competed with banks and other global investment institutions. Instead, my dreams were destroyed and I now receive threats on a daily basis.

Moving Forward

I have created a plan to help us move forward. I would appreciate everyone's help in fulfilling it. If you have any suggestions on how to improve my plan please tell me.

The Plan
1 - I have some Bitcoins left and I am still doing arbitrage with them.
2 - I want nothing more than to repay everyone. This won't be instant, but I want to do my best.
3 - I will continue paying refunds to everyone who lost money. In the interest of fairness, I think it is reasonable that until everyone is repaid their initial investments, that everyone only request the amount that was lost, not including profits.
4 - Please send your username, amount lost, Bitcoin address, username here (optional), details of your deposits, and any other information you can think of to [email protected] or by PM here.
5 - I will be using this thread to keep track of everything that I do, including refunds.

BTC Arbs is NOT a scam. It was a failed investment that is now trying to make good on past promises.





Email sent. If I am refunded I will call off my pitbulls.
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The Whole Story - From BTC-Arbs ADMIN

I am aware that this post may fall upon deaf ears, given the mob mentality that seems to have developed as a fallout from BTC-Arbs, however I am here with the ultimate goal of resolving the issues that currently face everyone involved. Before I get into my future plans I feel it is necessary to share a bit of background information on BTC-Arbs.

Scam Allegations

BTC Arbs was not created to be a scam, and was never intended to rip off investors. Bitcoin arbitrage is possible and many Bitcoin users have realized this and have started arbitrage trading on their own. Bitcoin arbitrage trading took place and earnings were made. Anyone who has ever looked at bitcoinaverage dot com can confirm this. The prices vary greatly from exchange to exchange, and there are always variations on the price. Even today, you can buy Bitcoin on BTCE for $556 and then sell it immediately on Bitstamp for $572. That produces a 2.7% profit, which is closer to 2% after exchange fees and transfer costs.

BTC-Arbs was not created to scam users.

Hacking

In early April, the BTC Arbs website was hacked. Numerous members can corroborate this fact. Many accounts were accessed and large amounts of Bitcoin were withdrawn. When this first started occurring, we were under the impression that it was due to users who had failed to secure their accounts with 2-factor authentication and who had been infected with a virus. It then became apparent that the website was not secure and the issue was impacting hundreds of accounts. HUNDREDS of Bitcoins were paid out that should not have been. To make matters worse, our incoming Bitcoin addresses were changed and hackers stole all of the incoming coins. When we tried to fix the issue, we just kept getting hacked over and over. Finally the problem was solved, but it was too late.

After the hacking, the plan was to use profits to re-liquidate the program, however people continued to withdraw, which ultimately lead to the overall failure and "reset". This can be referred to as a run on the bank.

100,000 Bitcoin Address

Those who believe that the 100,000 Bitcoin address belongs to BTC-Arbs are crazy. The total value of ALL BTC-Arbs accounts is more or less 500 Bitcoins. We weren't some billion dollar scam. The average user had less than 1 Bitcoin in their account. There are only 7 users with balances over 20 Bitcoins. There were less than 1000 accounts with Bitcoins in them.

Re-Incarnation

Upon resetting the program, the plan was to pay back all users using future profits. The plan was going well and members of Bitcoin Talk can attest that withdrawals were being paid and that many users had begun receiving a good portion of their investments back. The plan was going well until angry users decided to:
- Hack the website further
- Initiate a prolonged DDOS attack against the server
- File a trademark complaint for the domain (WTF???)
- Freeze fiat accounts (preventing refunds)

Apology

I am VERY VERY VERY SORRY that the outcome of BTC-Arbs was what it was. I had dreams of running the first large and legitimate Bitcoin Arbitrage investment company that could have one day competed with banks and other global investment institutions. Instead, my dreams were destroyed and I now receive threats on a daily basis.

Moving Forward

I have created a plan to help us move forward. I would appreciate everyone's help in fulfilling it. If you have any suggestions on how to improve my plan please tell me.

The Plan
1 - I have some Bitcoins left and I am still doing arbitrage with them.
2 - I want nothing more than to repay everyone. This won't be instant, but I want to do my best.
3 - I will continue paying refunds to everyone who lost money. In the interest of fairness, I think it is reasonable that until everyone is repaid their initial investments, that everyone only request the amount that was lost, not including profits.
4 - Please send your username, amount lost, Bitcoin address, username here (optional), details of your deposits, and any other information you can think of to [email protected] or by PM here.
5 - I will be using this thread to keep track of everything that I do, including refunds.

BTC Arbs is NOT a scam. It was a failed investment that is now trying to make good on past promises.



newbie
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newbie
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RickyCardero: so we have a clue. We may not be able to force the exchange to give that information but justice can. If we go through legal justice channels they can get this information. Maybe someone in Munich can go to the police and report this fraud with this clue so they can investigate.
sr. member
Activity: 276
Merit: 250
I was one of the investors that sent them a payment using a bank wire, and I also invested with other fiat methods. I've been working to track them down and have found the following information.

There are two names that I keep finding associated with accounts:

Shawn Tunt
Manfred Berger

Location: The IP addresses associated with emails that I have received are almost always in Munich, Germany. Another IP of theirs is in Bulgaria.

The bank account in Florida is a different name and after contacting them it looks like they were a pansy or fall guy.

The bank account in Hong Kong belongs to a payment processing service and is likely another intermediary.

Associated email addresses:

[email protected]
[email protected]

I was able to get into out of one of the exchanges that accepted Perfect Money from them. Apparently a payment was sent to a Russian name in Munich, but the exchange refuses to give the name. I am trying to get that information and will post it when I do.
 
The Bitcoin addresses that keep appearing in this thread almost certainly belong to a mixing service or a major exchange. There's no way this site took that many coins. My analysis puts the total figure closer to 750 coins.

If anyone would like to share info or collaborate on this, send me a PM.


What is the payment processing service in Hong Kong? I've got some friends there, maybe they can find something out.
sr. member
Activity: 364
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Keep digging, guys! If we can track these clowns down, maybe we can send someone to "encourage" them to return our money.
full member
Activity: 182
Merit: 100
I was one of the investors that sent them a payment using a bank wire, and I also invested with other fiat methods. I've been working to track them down and have found the following information.

There are two names that I keep finding associated with accounts:

Shawn Tunt
Manfred Berger

Location: The IP addresses associated with emails that I have received are almost always in Munich, Germany. Another IP of theirs is in Bulgaria.

The bank account in Florida is a different name and after contacting them it looks like they were a pansy or fall guy.

The bank account in Hong Kong belongs to a payment processing service and is likely another intermediary.

Associated email addresses:

[email protected]
[email protected]

I was able to get into out of one of the exchanges that accepted Perfect Money from them. Apparently a payment was sent to a Russian name in Munich, but the exchange refuses to give the name. I am trying to get that information and will post it when I do.
 
The Bitcoin addresses that keep appearing in this thread almost certainly belong to a mixing service or a major exchange. There's no way this site took that many coins. My analysis puts the total figure closer to 750 coins.

If anyone would like to share info or collaborate on this, send me a PM.



You actually got in touch with the person who owns the florida bank account? They paid him to accept funds? I was thinking around 1000 coins they took which is super impressive for a HYIP barely online for 2-3 months.
full member
Activity: 358
Merit: 100
I was one of the investors that sent them a payment using a bank wire, and I also invested with other fiat methods. I've been working to track them down and have found the following information.

There are two names that I keep finding associated with accounts:

Shawn Tunt
Manfred Berger

Location: The IP addresses associated with emails that I have received are almost always in Munich, Germany. Another IP of theirs is in Bulgaria.

The bank account in Florida is a different name and after contacting them it looks like they were a pansy or fall guy.

The bank account in Hong Kong belongs to a payment processing service and is likely another intermediary.

Associated email addresses:

[email protected]
[email protected]

I was able to get into out of one of the exchanges that accepted Perfect Money from them. Apparently a payment was sent to a Russian name in Munich, but the exchange refuses to give the name. I am trying to get that information and will post it when I do.
 
The Bitcoin addresses that keep appearing in this thread almost certainly belong to a mixing service or a major exchange. There's no way this site took that many coins. My analysis puts the total figure closer to 750 coins.

If anyone would like to share info or collaborate on this, send me a PM.
newbie
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BTC-ARBS SCAMMER: I am talking to you. I am investigating you and I have a experienced team. I have some interesting information about you. We will find you and you will pay with whatever you have.
full member
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So,this is down for good? Or..what's the situation? I've seen two HYIP's go down in the last month,but afaik,this is not a HYIP,just a regular arb. Is there any contact with the owner at all cuz from the look of it he is absconding.

This unfortunately was a poor quality HYIP that took a bunch of money with them. It's not coming back. Short lived, but could have had a lot of promise.
sr. member
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So,this is down for good? Or..what's the situation? I've seen two HYIP's go down in the last month,but afaik,this is not a HYIP,just a regular arb. Is there any contact with the owner at all cuz from the look of it he is absconding.
sr. member
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I have a couple friends actively looking for this fellow now.... not gonna be pretty. Better hope your info is not visible anywhere.

large transactions in the paper trail recently..

http://blockchain.info/address/16R14EH4v8A9GPXkAAP8gcMFBA8oxA8nbY

btc is not as anonymous as one would like to think, each day we break down those barriers.. and we are coming for you now.

BRING BACK THE SITE AND RETURN THE FUNDS OR PAY THE CONSEQUENCES.

You have been warned.


UPDATE : there are more than one person(s) being investigated now...

He will not care about your threats and rest assured, your 'friends' will not find him! Wanna bet???
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Activity: 182
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I have a couple friends actively looking for this fellow now.... not gonna be pretty. Better hope your info is not visible anywhere.

large transactions in the paper trail recently..

http://blockchain.info/address/16R14EH4v8A9GPXkAAP8gcMFBA8oxA8nbY

btc is not as anonymous as one would like to think, each day we break down those barriers.. and we are coming for you now.

BRING BACK THE SITE AND RETURN THE FUNDS OR PAY THE CONSEQUENCES.

You have been warned.


UPDATE : there are more than one person(s) being investigated now...

322k btc address is associated with btc-arbs?  Shocked

I can't even wrap my mind around them possibly running off with that much or even remotely close to that!

I never understand why people look at "Total Received" Tongue

You should look at total received: https://blockchain.info/charts/balance?address=16R14EH4v8A9GPXkAAP8gcMFBA8oxA8nbY so 7.8K MAX at any point at the same time.

Also I am looking forward for anyone giving serious analysis, no offense but clicking though some addresses and end up somewhere doesn't say much IMO.

With 10 seconds of Googling it's associated with multiple scams etc, so seems to me a mixer? Obviously I am just guessing now too.


haha sorry, knee jerk reaction. I agree, hard to really tell what address is really theirs owned by them and then what other addresses might just be services/companies they used? If they exchanged other e-currencies into bitcoin, those addresses will also show up and there's a number of exchangers in the HYIP world exchanging e-currencies like perfect money into bitcoin and could skew an analysis. They could simply use those foreign exchangers back and forth along with mixing to screw any real analysis up.
sr. member
Activity: 276
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I have a couple friends actively looking for this fellow now.... not gonna be pretty. Better hope your info is not visible anywhere.

large transactions in the paper trail recently..

http://blockchain.info/address/16R14EH4v8A9GPXkAAP8gcMFBA8oxA8nbY

btc is not as anonymous as one would like to think, each day we break down those barriers.. and we are coming for you now.

BRING BACK THE SITE AND RETURN THE FUNDS OR PAY THE CONSEQUENCES.

You have been warned.


UPDATE : there are more than one person(s) being investigated now...

322k btc address is associated with btc-arbs?  Shocked

I can't even wrap my mind around them possibly running off with that much or even remotely close to that!

I never understand why people look at "Total Received" Tongue You should look at total received: https://blockchain.info/charts/balance?address=16R14EH4v8A9GPXkAAP8gcMFBA8oxA8nbY so 7.8K MAX at any point at the same time.

Also I am looking forward for anyone giving serious analysis, no offense but clicking though some addresses and end up somewhere doesn't say much IMO.

With 10 seconds of Googling it's associated with multiple scams etc, so seems to me a mixer? Obviously I am just guessing now too.

Yes, it is most probably a mixer.
sr. member
Activity: 276
Merit: 250
I have a couple friends actively looking for this fellow now.... not gonna be pretty. Better hope your info is not visible anywhere.

large transactions in the paper trail recently..

http://blockchain.info/address/16R14EH4v8A9GPXkAAP8gcMFBA8oxA8nbY

btc is not as anonymous as one would like to think, each day we break down those barriers.. and we are coming for you now.

BRING BACK THE SITE AND RETURN THE FUNDS OR PAY THE CONSEQUENCES.

You have been warned.


UPDATE : there are more than one person(s) being investigated now...

No, that has surely nothing to do with btc-arbs.
legendary
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DiceSites.com owner
I have a couple friends actively looking for this fellow now.... not gonna be pretty. Better hope your info is not visible anywhere.

large transactions in the paper trail recently..

http://blockchain.info/address/16R14EH4v8A9GPXkAAP8gcMFBA8oxA8nbY

btc is not as anonymous as one would like to think, each day we break down those barriers.. and we are coming for you now.

BRING BACK THE SITE AND RETURN THE FUNDS OR PAY THE CONSEQUENCES.

You have been warned.


UPDATE : there are more than one person(s) being investigated now...

322k btc address is associated with btc-arbs?  Shocked

I can't even wrap my mind around them possibly running off with that much or even remotely close to that!

I never understand why people look at "Total Received" Tongue You should look at total received: https://blockchain.info/charts/balance?address=16R14EH4v8A9GPXkAAP8gcMFBA8oxA8nbY so 7.8K MAX at any point at the same time.

Also I am looking forward for anyone giving serious analysis, no offense but clicking though some addresses and end up somewhere doesn't say much IMO.

With 10 seconds of Googling it's associated with multiple scams etc, so seems to me a mixer? Obviously I am just guessing now too.
full member
Activity: 182
Merit: 100
I have a couple friends actively looking for this fellow now.... not gonna be pretty. Better hope your info is not visible anywhere.

large transactions in the paper trail recently..

http://blockchain.info/address/16R14EH4v8A9GPXkAAP8gcMFBA8oxA8nbY

btc is not as anonymous as one would like to think, each day we break down those barriers.. and we are coming for you now.

BRING BACK THE SITE AND RETURN THE FUNDS OR PAY THE CONSEQUENCES.

You have been warned.


UPDATE : there are more than one person(s) being investigated now...

322k btc address is associated with btc-arbs?  Shocked

I can't even wrap my mind around them possibly running off with that much or even remotely close to that!
member
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Arbitrage trading can be quite profitable with minimal to zero risk, probably why many of us fell for this - it was a perfectly engineered cover story as with enough capital it is totally viable to arbitrage trade bitcoin, or any market where there is price difference between exchanges or different parties. For example I just found this site that has software which will scan all the odds at online bookmakers and return arbitrage sports betting opportunities here Sure the typical marketing tactics are cringeworthy but about 1/3 of the way down the page there is a video called "$320 in 3 minutes" which shows the system in action. Looks pretty interesting!

Are you serious with that link? Who the hell would click a URL like that? http://23e3a8tlrphg1pyw8l7grimjdv.hop.clickbank.net HAHAHAHA!
hero member
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also guys can you give views on scrypt.cc and do you think its a hyip also?
legendary
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DiceSites.com owner
Sure the typical marketing tactics are cringeworthy but about 1/3 of the way down the page there is a video called "$320 in 3 minutes" which shows the system in action. Looks pretty interesting!
Obvious referral link to some bullshit classic "get rich now, buy our videos/guide BS scheme". Not appreciated.
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