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legendary
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July 30, 2017, 03:18:46 AM

Well, not that crazy. At some point, either the US authorities or the BTC-E admins were going to start moving the crypto. Unfortunately, we don't have much clue at this point which one of them it was, right? And even if it was BTC-E, that doesn't mean they're going to relaunch.

Exactly, none of us know a goddamn thing, endless repetitions of some peoples self referential doom scenarios with NO added information have exceeded my bandwidth patience.
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July 30, 2017, 03:18:29 AM
ya right.  USA government has everything right now.  their "inictment" was from January 2017.  that . means they already got all the necessary legal shit to hack btc-e and prepare for this takedown.  they already had everything in place since the last 6 months

There certainly seems to be a case in this thread of underestimating law enforcement. These guys will have done a lot of groundwork and collected a lot of evidence for this case. This isn't just two cops in a panda car cuffing a guy.

When things go right, the FBI (etc) issues a takedown and seizure of funds is the headliner in the press release. Not the case here. =


No one has any idea what they will do with the seized funds.  The FBI doesn't just immediately move funds.  For the same reason that they didn't redirect BTC-e.com immediately.  They let it sit for a day or two.  And then they changed the nameservers

Nameservers are irrelevant once the word is out

But the emphasized part certainly is. It simply makes no sense to keep funds once they get the keys. This is not dollars sitting in a bank account where no one can move them without prior consent of the bank (in this case the FBI). This is Crypto, after all. What if someone else knows the keys and moves the money right ahead of them? As to me, moving funds to a different wallet would be the first thing these guys would do
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July 30, 2017, 03:14:29 AM

+ 120 million ETH on the move.

$520 million on the move that we know of, this is craziness.

Well, not that crazy. At some point, either the US authorities or the BTC-E admins were going to start moving the crypto. Unfortunately, we don't have much clue at this point which one of them it was, right? And even if it was BTC-E, that doesn't mean they're going to relaunch.
newbie
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July 30, 2017, 03:13:19 AM
this thread is a hell of a lot more useful, and easier to read, if you put a couple of these noobs that JUST KEEP POSTING THE SAME GODDAMN THING OVER AND OVER on ignore

just sayin'

(not you daserpent, that was the good stuff)

Are you kidding me? Look at the fucking wallet, 2017-07-29 23:09:20, it is a developing story.

https://blockchain.info/address/16ZbpCEyVVdqu8VycWR8thUL2Rd9JnjzHt

And let people post their grief in public, we have lost tons of money.
legendary
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diamond-handed zealot
July 30, 2017, 03:09:31 AM
this thread is a hell of a lot more useful, and easier to read, if you put a couple of these noobs that JUST KEEP POSTING THE SAME GODDAMN THING OVER AND OVER on ignore

just sayin'

(not you daserpent, that was the good stuff)
newbie
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July 30, 2017, 02:51:43 AM

+ 120 million ETH on the move.

$520 million on the move that we know of, this is craziness.
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July 30, 2017, 02:44:01 AM
ya right.  USA government has everything right now.  their "inictment" was from January 2017.  that . means they already got all the necessary legal shit to hack btc-e and prepare for this takedown.  they already had everything in place since the last 6 months

There certainly seems to be a case in this thread of underestimating law enforcement. These guys will have done a lot of groundwork and collected a lot of evidence for this case. This isn't just two cops in a panda car cuffing a guy.

When things go right, the FBI (etc) issues a takedown and seizure of funds is the headliner in the press release. Not the case here. =

No one has any idea what they will do with the seized funds.  The FBI doesn't just immediately move funds.  For the same reason that they didn't redirect BTC-e.com immediately.  They let it sit for a day or two.  And then they changed the nameservers.

If they were able to, of course they would move any crypto funds they could immediately. Otherwise, the site admins could move them with the same private keys.

It's true, the seizures are usually the most important part for federal agencies. They can easily freeze bank accounts in US-friendly countries and they generally execute such warrants at the same time that they make raids/arrests. They always act all at once for maximum impact. And the reason we didn't see the takedown page for a couple days is because of DNS propagation.
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July 30, 2017, 02:43:55 AM
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newbie
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July 30, 2017, 02:41:18 AM
Ok, did a little research.

Btc-e.com domain definitely is seized by the authorities (it's not still in control of the original owners anymore) - but this is very common and I am sure the original owners were expecting this to happen anytime. Seizing a .com domain just takes one court order to the ICANN (the domain overviewing organization) and the domain is in control of the authority requesting access. This is why, most notorious websites like to use cctlds (like .ru, .cn and so on).

Many people think that the BTC-e owners are doing an exit scam by putting up a seized notice on the website themselves and withdrawing all the coins to other wallets. But that is not the case, as we shall see below.

http://i66.tinypic.com/2pynlhu.png
http://i67.tinypic.com/332bjo6.png
http://i64.tinypic.com/s1t9xk.png


Now, the ETH moving to another wallet is interesting. I am sure the ETH wallet is NOT yet seized by the authorities - because if it was, they wouldn't have sent all the ETH to a wallet (https://etherscan.io/address/0x8eb3fa7907ad2ef4c7e3ba4b1d2f2aac6f4b5ae6) that receives 0.001 to 0.0001 ETH every few minutes (it is probably a small miner that is paying to this address). If we remember the Silk Road case, the FBI transferred all BTC to a brand-new wallet with no transactions happening.

So, the ETH have been moved a wallet that is still in control of the team and not the LE authorities.

Future prediction - Probably the site will come back online on a different domain other than btc-e.com. It could take longer than expected. And hopefully, all the customers will access to their funds like before.

I think we all appreciate your research but really, you're fucking delusional.  BTC-e is GONE.  It is entirely kaput.  They are on the run from USA FBI!  There is no possible way that BTC-e ever comes online again.
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July 30, 2017, 02:29:12 AM
Ok, did a little research.

Btc-e.com domain definitely is seized by the authorities (it's not still in control of the original owners anymore) - but this is very common and I am sure the original owners were expecting this to happen anytime. Seizing a .com domain just takes one court order to the ICANN (the domain overviewing organization) and the domain is in control of the authority requesting access. This is why, most notorious websites like to use cctlds (like .ru, .cn and so on).

Many people think that the BTC-e owners are doing an exit scam by putting up a seized notice on the website themselves and withdrawing all the coins to other wallets. But that is not the case, as we shall see below.






Now, the ETH moving to another wallet is interesting. I am sure the ETH wallet is NOT yet seized by the authorities - because if it was, they wouldn't have sent all the ETH to a wallet (https://etherscan.io/address/0x8eb3fa7907ad2ef4c7e3ba4b1d2f2aac6f4b5ae6) that receives 0.001 to 0.0001 ETH every few minutes (it is probably a small miner that is paying to this address). If we remember the Silk Road case, the FBI transferred all BTC to a brand-new wallet with no transactions happening.

So, the ETH have been moved a wallet that is still in control of the team and not the LE authorities.

Future prediction - Probably the site will come back online on a different domain other than btc-e.com. It could take longer than expected. And hopefully, all the customers will access to their funds like before.
newbie
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July 30, 2017, 02:00:48 AM
Do you know what's interesting about ETH transfer. It seems that someone how know very little about cryptos made the transfer.
How ever it was he forget to move milloins of tokens still existing in orginal ETH address. If tokens are transferred after this message it also tells us that they are monitoring this thread.

This is very bad sign. It tells us that transfer was not made by admins.
newbie
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July 30, 2017, 12:10:59 AM
BTC-e is a crime scene.  If USA FBI has control of the private keys (I'm certain that they do) then we're all FUCKED.  Except maybe some americans that can get their coins back through legal in USA
newbie
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July 29, 2017, 11:53:26 PM
ya right.  USA government has everything right now.  their "inictment" was from January 2017.  that . means they already got all the necessary legal shit to hack btc-e and prepare for this takedown.  they already had everything in place since the last 6 months

There certainly seems to be a case in this thread of underestimating law enforcement. These guys will have done a lot of groundwork and collected a lot of evidence for this case. This isn't just two cops in a panda car cuffing a guy.

When things go right, the FBI (etc) issues a takedown and seizure of funds is the headliner in the press release. Not the case here. =


No one has any idea what they will do with the seized funds.  The FBI doesn't just immediately move funds.  For the same reason that they didn't redirect BTC-e.com immediately.  They let it sit for a day or two.  And then they changed the nameservers.

Sepculations, all of it. This too: They offered Vinnik Guantanamo 1000 million years or 10 year lowsec prison.  Within a second he signed and gave them everything.
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July 29, 2017, 11:47:56 PM
1) Alex dont have access to keys. Owners could of paid, they did not. Case closed.

2) Alex have access to keys and he is the only one with the keys (else coins would be moved) - FED is likely to get keys from him and payout a few while auctioning rest.

3) Traders made money of more stupid people via FUD and fear of been left behind, aka pump and dump. Similar to FED handling of economy.

4) Even if all humans put all cash they had into come crypto coins - it would simply reshuffle existing crumbs mostly.

5) By understanding fears and manias such as greed, envy, cowardice, jealousy, etc aka knowing self and influence we humans can  enjoy our life on Earth.

6) If its not done fight for a crumbs continues, while very few withhold most resources including technological ones from most. Increasing pollution and rise  of fuck life attitude leads to end of human on Earth (not an overall end, yet a evolutionary setback)

If this text saved you $$$$$ you were going to spend on psychiatrist send tips to 1FCWF4qYMY78ZFfJxp6SLiD4XMfnTjFVrB. Min suggested tip 100 usd Smiley

Feel free to comment.

Fuck you IDIOT  Smiley
newbie
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July 29, 2017, 11:46:23 PM
ya right.  USA government has everything right now.  their "inictment" was from January 2017.  that . means they already got all the necessary legal shit to hack btc-e and prepare for this takedown.  they already had everything in place since the last 6 months

There certainly seems to be a case in this thread of underestimating law enforcement. These guys will have done a lot of groundwork and collected a lot of evidence for this case. This isn't just two cops in a panda car cuffing a guy.

When things go right, the FBI (etc) issues a takedown and seizure of funds is the headliner in the press release. Not the case here. =


No one has any idea what they will do with the seized funds.  The FBI doesn't just immediately move funds.  For the same reason that they didn't redirect BTC-e.com immediately.  They let it sit for a day or two.  And then they changed the nameservers.
newbie
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July 29, 2017, 11:38:16 PM
ya right.  USA government has everything right now.  their "inictment" was from January 2017.  that . means they already got all the necessary legal shit to hack btc-e and prepare for this takedown.  they already had everything in place since the last 6 months

There certainly seems to be a case in this thread of underestimating law enforcement. These guys will have done a lot of groundwork and collected a lot of evidence for this case. This isn't just two cops in a panda car cuffing a guy.

There are, like, 7 USA government agencies investigating BTC-e for really serious crimes.  I mean yikes!  nobody is ever going to see BTC-e again.
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July 29, 2017, 11:31:10 PM
ya right.  USA government has everything right now.  their "inictment" was from January 2017.  that . means they already got all the necessary legal shit to hack btc-e and prepare for this takedown.  they already had everything in place since the last 6 months

There certainly seems to be a case in this thread of underestimating law enforcement. These guys will have done a lot of groundwork and collected a lot of evidence for this case. This isn't just two cops in a panda car cuffing a guy.

That's true. One of the things that has been bothering me all this time, however, is the lack of announcement regarding seizure of funds. When things go right, the FBI (etc) issues a takedown and seizure of funds is the headliner in the press release. Not the case here. Maybe the US government is in control and is simply not giving away all the information (maybe hoping to goad admins into giving away server locations or their whereabouts). But I suspect that something went wrong, and the feds acted on this prematurely.

As long as not Terorisim connected, then we will get our digital asset back soon.

Most of us were just small miners, using our poor salary to buy an expensive miner
and afford huge electricity bill to push blockchain work , and then earn small tips.


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