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Quote from: yefi on July 29, 2017, 10:23:04 PM

Quote from: locked_in on July 29, 2017, 08:29:47 PM

ya right. USA government has everything right now. their "inictment" was from January 2017. that . means they already got all the necessary legal shit to hack btc-e and prepare for this takedown. they already had everything in place since the last 6 months

There certainly seems to be a case in this thread of underestimating law enforcement. These guys will have done a lot of groundwork and collected a lot of evidence for this case. This isn't just two cops in a panda car cuffing a guy.

That's true. One of the things that has been bothering me all this time, however, is the lack of announcement regarding seizure of funds. When things go right, the FBI (etc) issues a takedown and seizure of funds is the headliner in the press release. Not the case here. Maybe the US government is in control and is simply not giving away all the information (maybe hoping to goad admins into giving away server locations or their whereabouts). But I suspect that something went wrong, and the feds acted on this prematurely.

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Quote from: locked_in on July 29, 2017, 08:29:47 PM

ya right. USA government has everything right now. their "inictment" was from January 2017. that . means they already got all the necessary legal shit to hack btc-e and prepare for this takedown. they already had everything in place since the last 6 months

There certainly seems to be a case in this thread of underestimating law enforcement. These guys will have done a lot of groundwork and collected a lot of evidence for this case. This isn't just two cops in a panda car cuffing a guy.

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Quote from: bj9k on July 29, 2017, 07:58:56 PM

Quote from: erk on July 29, 2017, 07:42:15 PM

Quote from: bj9k on July 29, 2017, 07:31:15 PM

Quote from: erk on July 29, 2017, 07:08:00 PM

Quote from: bj9k on July 29, 2017, 07:04:46 PM

Since ETH balance automatically transferred to new wallet, it could mean that those 5-10 days could be some kind of 'dead man switch' that will be activated.

How do you know that ETH balance was "automatically" transferred to a new wallet?

If you check
https://etherscan.io/address/0x8eb3fa7907ad2ef4c7e3ba4b1d2f2aac6f4b5ae6
first 3 transactions are completed on exact full hour difference, 4th 10mins after and 5th could be some troll. So first 3 transactions looks like automatic dead man switch probably executed or confirmed by 0.0001 sent back to original ETH balance wallet from https://etherscan.io/address/0xf886abf45d68611078b5f66d450f76beb1dd8234

Also there is a quote of Balthazar who is familiar with BTC-e (don't have the original post link):
"Well, ETH stash is still incomparable to BTC wallets. Anyway, FBI would notify everybody in the world in case of successful seizure of funds. So I think that it's just a new wallet created by automatical task which is still function properly. It looks like at least some part of exchange's infrastructure is still up."

We shall see if US gov says anything about money in the next couple of days. Balthazar was too quick to say that FBI would notify everybody. They might do that but not the same minute they have moved ETH balance. But anyhow it looks to me like it was some automatic script doing that ETH balance transfer.

Sounds like epic BS to me.

In which country were these "FBI" supposed to be doing this seizure?

5-10 days

ya right. USA government has everything right now. their "inictment" was from January 2017. that . means they already got all the necessary legal shit to hack btc-e and prepare for this takedown. they already had everything in place since the last 6 months

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Quote from: erk on July 29, 2017, 07:42:15 PM

Quote from: bj9k on July 29, 2017, 07:31:15 PM

Quote from: erk on July 29, 2017, 07:08:00 PM

Quote from: bj9k on July 29, 2017, 07:04:46 PM

Since ETH balance automatically transferred to new wallet, it could mean that those 5-10 days could be some kind of 'dead man switch' that will be activated.

How do you know that ETH balance was "automatically" transferred to a new wallet?

If you check
https://etherscan.io/address/0x8eb3fa7907ad2ef4c7e3ba4b1d2f2aac6f4b5ae6
first 3 transactions are completed on exact full hour difference, 4th 10mins after and 5th could be some troll. So first 3 transactions looks like automatic dead man switch probably executed or confirmed by 0.0001 sent back to original ETH balance wallet from https://etherscan.io/address/0xf886abf45d68611078b5f66d450f76beb1dd8234

Also there is a quote of Balthazar who is familiar with BTC-e (don't have the original post link):
"Well, ETH stash is still incomparable to BTC wallets. Anyway, FBI would notify everybody in the world in case of successful seizure of funds. So I think that it's just a new wallet created by automatical task which is still function properly. It looks like at least some part of exchange's infrastructure is still up."

We shall see if US gov says anything about money in the next couple of days. Balthazar was too quick to say that FBI would notify everybody. They might do that but not the same minute they have moved ETH balance. But anyhow it looks to me like it was some automatic script doing that ETH balance transfer.

Sounds like epic BS to me.

In which country were these "FBI" supposed to be doing this seizure?

5-10 days

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Its game over, they are stealning everything.

Vinnik signed already and handed over everything he got.

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Quote from: European Central Bank on July 29, 2017, 05:10:48 PM

Quote from: donalddump on July 29, 2017, 04:43:38 PM

What if btc-e admins dump database with every email address and balance after fbi seized their funds and 51% of btc,ltc,etc. miners decide to empty fbi addresses containing stolen fund and refund the innocents?

In the end all cryptos are open source, everyone is free to modify and run the version they want so it will not be anything illegal.

This will send a strong message to US that if they play dirty the community can play dirty too.

they wouldn't do it if 20 million coins were seized, let alone a few thousand.

ethereum wouldn't any more either. this is in no way an existential threat. it's a tragedy for the people who lose out if they are seized. that's it.

This is because pools and master nodes are cancer.

There should be a coin where pools and master nodes won't work, where every one that will run a full node to be able to vote and his 1 coin vote should have same value as another user that have 1000 coins, a coin that should have a user friendly builtin vote system.

If there was such a coin gox would not have happened nor btc-e.

If there was such a coin hackers or authorities abuse won't exist.

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Quote from: bj9k on July 29, 2017, 07:31:15 PM

Quote from: erk on July 29, 2017, 07:08:00 PM

Quote from: bj9k on July 29, 2017, 07:04:46 PM

Since ETH balance automatically transferred to new wallet, it could mean that those 5-10 days could be some kind of 'dead man switch' that will be activated.

How do you know that ETH balance was "automatically" transferred to a new wallet?

If you check
https://etherscan.io/address/0x8eb3fa7907ad2ef4c7e3ba4b1d2f2aac6f4b5ae6
first 3 transactions are completed on exact full hour difference, 4th 10mins after and 5th could be some troll. So first 3 transactions looks like automatic dead man switch probably executed or confirmed by 0.0001 sent back to original ETH balance wallet from https://etherscan.io/address/0xf886abf45d68611078b5f66d450f76beb1dd8234

Also there is a quote of Balthazar who is familiar with BTC-e (don't have the original post link):
"Well, ETH stash is still incomparable to BTC wallets. Anyway, FBI would notify everybody in the world in case of successful seizure of funds. So I think that it's just a new wallet created by automatical task which is still function properly. It looks like at least some part of exchange's infrastructure is still up."

We shall see if US gov says anything about money in the next couple of days. Balthazar was too quick to say that FBI would notify everybody. They might do that but not the same minute they have moved ETH balance. But anyhow it looks to me like it was some automatic script doing that ETH balance transfer.

Sounds like epic BS to me.

In which country were these "FBI" supposed to be doing this seizure?

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Quote from: erk on July 29, 2017, 07:08:00 PM

Quote from: bj9k on July 29, 2017, 07:04:46 PM

Since ETH balance automatically transferred to new wallet, it could mean that those 5-10 days could be some kind of 'dead man switch' that will be activated.

How do you know that ETH balance was "automatically" transferred to a new wallet?

If you check
https://etherscan.io/address/0x8eb3fa7907ad2ef4c7e3ba4b1d2f2aac6f4b5ae6
first 3 transactions are completed on exact full hour difference, 4th 10mins after and 5th could be some troll. So first 3 transactions looks like automatic dead man switch probably executed or confirmed by 0.0001 sent back to original ETH balance wallet from https://etherscan.io/address/0xf886abf45d68611078b5f66d450f76beb1dd8234

Also there is a quote of Balthazar who is familiar with BTC-e (don't have the original post link):
"Well, ETH stash is still incomparable to BTC wallets. Anyway, FBI would notify everybody in the world in case of successful seizure of funds. So I think that it's just a new wallet created by automatical task which is still function properly. It looks like at least some part of exchange's infrastructure is still up."

We shall see if US gov says anything about money in the next couple of days. Balthazar was too quick to say that FBI would notify everybody. They might do that but not the same minute they have moved ETH balance. But anyhow it looks to me like it was some automatic script doing that ETH balance transfer.

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Quote from: BitcoinTraveler on July 29, 2017, 07:06:53 PM

Someone posted earlier that there were 100,000 users on BTC-e.

There was over a million accounts.

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Was the following link posted earlier?

http://forklog.com/c-ethereum-koshelka-birzhi-btc-e-vyvedeno-94-5-mln/

I couldn't find it if it was.

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Quote from: BitcoinTraveler on July 29, 2017, 07:06:53 PM

I think it would be in the best interests of the other operators of BTC-e to create a new domain and transfer the old website to a new domain. They can then allow their old users to access their accounts and withdraw them to other wallets off the site.

here we go again. BTC-e admins are FUGITIVES from the UNITES STATES government and FBI!!. theyr not going to open up the exchange again just to give you back your coins. they are running and going under ground with all of every bodies coins. or they are caught.

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Quote from: Sam-Os on July 29, 2017, 06:59:46 PM

Quote from: allispossible on July 29, 2017, 06:07:21 PM

1) Alex dont have access to keys. Owners could of paid, they did not. Case closed.

2) Alex have access to keys and he is the only one with the keys (else coins would be moved) - FED is likely to get keys from him and payout a few while auctioning rest.

3) Traders made money of more stupid people via FUD and fear of been left behind, aka pump and dump. Similar to FED handling of economy.

4) Even if all humans put all cash they had into come crypto coins - it would simply reshuffle existing crumbs mostly.

5) By understanding fears and manias such as greed, envy, cowardice, jealousy, etc aka knowing self and influence we humans can enjoy our life on Earth.

6) If its not done fight for a crumbs continues, while very few withhold most resources including technological ones from most. Increasing pollution and rise of fuck life attitude leads to end of human on Earth (not an overall end, yet a evolutionary setback)

If this text saved you $$$$$ you were going to spend on psychiatrist send tips to 1FCWF4qYMY78ZFfJxp6SLiD4XMfnTjFVrB. Min suggested tip 100 usd

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I think it's you that needs a psychiatrist.

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Quote from: bj9k on July 29, 2017, 07:04:46 PM

Since ETH balance automatically transferred to new wallet, it could mean that those 5-10 days could be some kind of 'dead man switch' that will be activated.

How do you know that ETH balance was "automatically" transferred to a new wallet?

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I think it would be in the best interests of the other operators of BTC-e to create a new domain and transfer the old website to a new domain. They can then allow their old users to access their accounts and withdraw them to other wallets off the site.

Not only would that be the right(moral) thing to do, I think it could also limit the amount of charges the US government will levy against them. Realistically if they take all the coins from everyone then the government will almost certainly try to put additional charges on them. They may do something like a single charge for each user who had their coins taken.

Someone posted earlier that there were 100,000 users on BTC-e. If you do the math in that scenario it adds up to a ton of charges, even if there were 100 admins on BTC-e, you're still talking the potential for a 100 years or more worth of potential jail time for each admin. Shocked

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Since ETH balance automatically transferred to new wallet, it could mean that those 5-10 days could be some kind of 'dead man switch' that will be activated.

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Quote from: allispossible on July 29, 2017, 06:07:21 PM

1) Alex dont have access to keys. Owners could of paid, they did not. Case closed.

2) Alex have access to keys and he is the only one with the keys (else coins would be moved) - FED is likely to get keys from him and payout a few while auctioning rest.

3) Traders made money of more stupid people via FUD and fear of been left behind, aka pump and dump. Similar to FED handling of economy.

4) Even if all humans put all cash they had into come crypto coins - it would simply reshuffle existing crumbs mostly.

5) By understanding fears and manias such as greed, envy, cowardice, jealousy, etc aka knowing self and influence we humans can enjoy our life on Earth.

6) If its not done fight for a crumbs continues, while very few withhold most resources including technological ones from most. Increasing pollution and rise of fuck life attitude leads to end of human on Earth (not an overall end, yet a evolutionary setback)

If this text saved you $$$$$ you were going to spend on psychiatrist send tips to 1FCWF4qYMY78ZFfJxp6SLiD4XMfnTjFVrB. Min suggested tip 100 usd

Feel free to comment.

I think it's you that needs a psychiatrist.

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Quote from: reb0rn21 on July 29, 2017, 06:51:21 PM

Quote from: Potent on July 29, 2017, 06:49:48 PM

BTC-e has maximum two other admins now, i think.
Alex arrested and rest of them decide to divide the money between themselves and run away.

run where are you fucking sane!
if not FBI, mafia will get them

Mafia is little finger of FBI. who knows who are they?

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Quote from: Potent on July 29, 2017, 06:49:48 PM

BTC-e has maximum two other admins now, i think.
Alex arrested and rest of them decide to divide the money between themselves and run away.

run where are you fucking sane!
if not FBI, mafia will get them

their only option is to lawyer up, decide what they are gona do next with the new situation!

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BTC-e has maximum two other admins now, i think.
Alex arrested and they decided to divide the money between themselves and run away.

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Quote from: donalddump on July 29, 2017, 06:37:28 PM

If btc-e are still in control of coins they cannot turn them into cash because fbi will have easy job to trace them.

But if they allow users to withdrawal their coin they can put a limit of 100-200 USD a day and a different address each time and they will be able to withdrawal their own coins.

Think about it more than 100,000 users with multiple addresses each will be the biggest mixer of all time.

Considering that hackers won't keep coins in a exchange for long because they want to cash out asap then 99% of users funds are legit so if fbi will try to verify each address and each user will cost them more than they will be able to confiscate.

But if the owner has been detained then they won't have the opportunity to cash out to pay back their users even if they have kept the private keys hidden.

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