Btc hodlers vs short time traders - page 2.

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Quote from: carlisle1 on January 08, 2022, 10:40:10 AM

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Quote from: Pahom on January 08, 2022, 01:32:07 AM

You are absolutely right that long-term holders get a bigger profit than short-term traders as it is so difficult to guess where the market will go as there are too many factors that can influence on market. Personally I follow the strategy of buying almost every month some Bitcoin and other solid crypto currencies, it is my monthly investment.

You could say it because you are doing it and had seen the results but these people are in short-term traders might be doing good as well more than you. Maybe you should also have to tried becoming a trader and to see what is really happening.

It could really hard to say what is more profiting and which is not it is because we don't have the same expertise in life. Besides, holders and traders are two different situations. Well, some can justify that trading is profiting and some could say long-term holders give them the best results. It is exactly two different stories and have also different results depending on how we deal with it.

More on your own personal understanding and what kind of investment you are desiring to proceed.

Long-term holders can maximize their profits and can earn really huge when the strong bull start to pump back and deliver the target profits,

while with short-term trader, they can earn small each trade and when you add everything if they've got more winning trades than losing one,

they are also gaining decent benefits

Actually, both long-term Bitcoin holding or short-term trading are equally profitable as long as we do it well. So it is better to do both than
to have to choose one, but it must be admitted that the risk of short-term trading is much higher. In the end we do need to ask ourselves
which one is comfortable for us to do, because everyone has different choices. Only we ourselves know what is best for us to do, so it doesn't
matter if we have different choices from others. But because I have studied the crypto world well, then I also know how to make profit from
long-term Bitcoin holding and short-term trading, so for me to do both can generate much greater profit than having to choose one.

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Quote from: Pahom on January 08, 2022, 01:32:07 AM

You are absolutely right that long-term holders get a bigger profit than short-term traders as it is so difficult to guess where the market will go as there are too many factors that can influence on market. Personally I follow the strategy of buying almost every month some Bitcoin and other solid crypto currencies, it is my monthly investment.

This works to those who are into long term investment. It’s actually good decision to buy when we have money since BTC is still able to pump in price in the future especially when more industries take bitcoin as form of payment as well as investment. But in altcoins it’s only good for top coins but not in other coins that may lose their value more when they are unable to recover whenever the market is at dip.

I'd rather choose those coins that have strong fundamentals especially when we are holding long-term which is pretty different when we just make a trade as we obviously choose those who are having a huge market volume. That is the basis of how I choose coins and that it seems to work for me but can be different from others.
Well, to buy coins during the dip is the best option but to have a trade during the bearish season is in a huge struggle, in fact, you can neither sell at a lower price, it is a loss, of course.

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Both are good and profitable but depend on market and research would be must important so i thought BTC holders both are good and invest depend on market.

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Quote from: kro55 on December 17, 2021, 04:20:23 PM

Quote from: Voxo2222 on December 17, 2021, 03:45:10 PM

Sorry but hodlers who buy with dca method are the winners in this game.
Dollar cost average is by far one of the best methods many dont like it as they dont have patience.
We the people want to see results always too fast if not we not interested only few the handful can really do the buy the dips combined mixed with dca style buying.

Hodler and short-time traders both are benefited for their own purposes. Hodler invested money for the long term cause they have other income sources, they are able to manage their monthly expenses by doing other jobs. so they are able to invest for the long term and get benefits.
On the other hand, short-time traders are taking trading their main job, they do trading to manage their monthly expenses. They invest money for short time, take ROI and use that ROI to live their livelihood or use that ROI to invest in a new project. So they are also benefited.

Of course, people are do what they want.If it's BTC holding or short term trade both are benefited. We can't compare who's benefited more because their needs and situations are totally different. So do what you can, learn from the mistake, make a better move and stay happy.

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Quote from: adzino on January 07, 2022, 08:31:51 PM

I would still prefer buying the dip over dollar cost averaging. Using both strategy would be even better. Keep buying the dips as much as you can to maximize your profit. And then regularly buy after certain interval no matter what the price is so that in the long run you still make some good profit. You don't need to time the market properly if you are planning to hold long term. So if you can't afford to afford to invest at regular interval (doing dca), then at least try to buy whatever you can afford to lose during the dip.

I agree with what you are saying because buying when it dips I think is something that is indeed one of the best to have and the prospect of a higher profit rate.
on the other hand this is like an action that can't be done every time because it takes momentum and time for this but it's still good enough to do when it can happen

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on January 08, 2022, 10:29:06 AM

Quote from: Pahom on January 08, 2022, 01:32:07 AM

You are absolutely right that long-term holders get a bigger profit than short-term traders as it is so difficult to guess where the market will go as there are too many factors that can influence on market. Personally I follow the strategy of buying almost every month some Bitcoin and other solid crypto currencies, it is my monthly investment.

You could say it because you are doing it and had seen the results but these people are in short-term traders might be doing good as well more than you. Maybe you should also have to tried becoming a trader and to see what is really happening.

It could really hard to say what is more profiting and which is not it is because we don't have the same expertise in life. Besides, holders and traders are two different situations. Well, some can justify that trading is profiting and some could say long-term holders give them the best results. It is exactly two different stories and have also different results depending on how we deal with it.

More on your own personal understanding and what kind of investment you are desiring to proceed.

Long-term holders can maximize their profits and can earn really huge when the strong bull start to pump back and deliver the target profits,

while with short-term trader, they can earn small each trade and when you add everything if they've got more winning trades than losing one,

they are also gaining decent benefits

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Quote from: Pahom on January 08, 2022, 01:32:07 AM

You are absolutely right that long-term holders get a bigger profit than short-term traders as it is so difficult to guess where the market will go as there are too many factors that can influence on market. Personally I follow the strategy of buying almost every month some Bitcoin and other solid crypto currencies, it is my monthly investment.

You could say it because you are doing it and had seen the results but these people are in short-term traders might be doing good as well more than you. Maybe you should also have to tried becoming a trader and to see what is really happening.

It could really hard to say what is more profiting and which is not it is because we don't have the same expertise in life. Besides, holders and traders are two different situations. Well, some can justify that trading is profiting and some could say long-term holders give them the best results. It is exactly two different stories and have also different results depending on how we deal with it.

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You are absolutely right that long-term holders get a bigger profit than short-term traders as it is so difficult to guess where the market will go as there are too many factors that can influence on market. Personally I follow the strategy of buying almost every month some Bitcoin and other solid crypto currencies, it is my monthly investment.

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Quote from: Voxo2222 on December 17, 2021, 03:45:10 PM

Sorry but hodlers who buy with dca method are the winners in this game.
Dollar cost average is by far one of the best methods many dont like it as they dont have patience.
We the people want to see results always too fast if not we not interested only few the handful can really do the buy the dips combined mixed with dca style buying.

Lol this is a joke? do you know that the biggest profiting these days are those who are buying short term? we knew that bitcoin take long time before climbing so those who buy and sell are the one you makes money.
those people that has good in TA and can make speculative correctly and so when they buy now they can sell later with profit.

Quote from: Xinarae* on January 08, 2022, 12:23:15 AM

Agree because buying a dip reduces the risk here and if the price goes up the profit will double the risk is higher for short term business. Many times when you buy at a higher the price often goes down investors want to make a return for long periods of the year even decades as investors have a larger time horizon, their target returns for each investment also tend to be larger. The most profitable currency to hold is bitcoin the most convenient for newcomers is the long term hold of bitcoin, even if they have little knowledge of crypto.

if you can analyze when the dip will happen so you can accumulate more right?
but what if not?

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Agree because buying a dip reduces the risk here and if the price goes up the profit will double the risk is higher for short term business. Many times when you buy at a higher the price often goes down investors want to make a return for long periods of the year even decades as investors have a larger time horizon, their target returns for each investment also tend to be larger. The most profitable currency to hold is bitcoin the most convenient for newcomers is the long term hold of bitcoin, even if they have little knowledge of crypto.

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I would still prefer buying the dip over dollar cost averaging. Using both strategy would be even better. Keep buying the dips as much as you can to maximize your profit. And then regularly buy after certain interval no matter what the price is so that in the long run you still make some good profit. You don't need to time the market properly if you are planning to hold long term. So if you can't afford to afford to invest at regular interval (doing dca), then at least try to buy whatever you can afford to lose during the dip.

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Quote from: Voxo2222 on December 17, 2021, 03:45:10 PM

Sorry but hodlers who buy with dca method are the winners in this game.

This will work for holders who are patient in waiting for the bullish trend of Bitcoin itself. But for those who are hurried up, it may not really work.
But I also agree that most holders are great enough in earning profits by holding, even for several years of holding Bitcoin.

But, some traders who are rapidly and consistently taking profits for years by doing daily or short-term tradings are also the winners as long as they can manage their trading strategies and management.
many traders are successful by trading Bitcoin and the earning profits may not be small. This is commonly done by those who are also only having small capitals.
So, whoever you are, trader or investor/holder, do whatever that can make you earn more and more pforist based on your own cosniderations and strategies.

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Quote from: Voxo2222 on December 17, 2021, 03:45:10 PM

Sorry but hodlers who buy with dca method are the winners in this game.
Dollar cost average is by far one of the best methods many dont like it as they dont have patience.
We the people want to see results always too fast if not we not interested only few the handful can really do the buy the dips combined mixed with dca style buying.

Could you show us some evidence of this? After all you are quite convinced that you are correct and that DCA is the way to go, personally I do not believe it at all, if we are talking about a strategy that is easy to implement to anyone regardless of their knowledge about the market then you may have a point, however if we are talking about performance then it is obvious those that buy the dip and the traders that can either go short or long in the market should on average obtain more profits than those that are using DCA as their main method of investing.

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Quote from: pealr12 on January 07, 2022, 01:23:30 PM

In some cases, short term holders are most likely to be the lucky ones than those diamond hands holders, assuming you are able to time the market and know when to sell and when to buy back, you will be much happier with your position as a holder instead of holding all through but this is not always the case so it all depends on individual and their ability to determine the right time to act.

I do not completely agree with you, short term holders aren't always lucky, and mind you that short term investors tend to invest in altcoins that are usually profitable in the short term, but also very risky cause many, if not all of them are pump and dump coins and as such they can appreciate fast and dump faster, making it very possible to incur loss.

But having said that, long term holders usually choose Bitcoin, and if you look at its history, its price always appreciates back up even after a dump or a plunge, thus if one is patient enough to hold Bitcoin for the long period they are usually bound to make good returns on their investment.

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Quote from: pealr12 on January 07, 2022, 01:23:30 PM

In some cases, short term holders are most likely to be the lucky ones than those diamond hands holders, assuming you are able to time the market and know when to sell and when to buy back, you will be much happier with your position as a holder instead of holding all through but this is not always the case so it all depends on individual and their ability to determine the right time to act.

Generally speaking or to be honest then we could really say that short term traders are the ones who do make out profits more than into those who have been holding exclude into those who bought

on early times then its a considerable one but for those who had recently bought out and then tend to hold for long term then it would really be a test of patience on which most people do really fail on.

Whether you are holder or not then it wont matter because this is really mattering on someones preference in their view towards their investment so this one would really vary.

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In some cases, short term holders are most likely to be the lucky ones than those diamond hands holders, assuming you are able to time the market and know when to sell and when to buy back, you will be much happier with your position as a holder instead of holding all through but this is not always the case so it all depends on individual and their ability to determine the right time to act.

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It has been determined that altconis are currently still a long-term risk investment, but of course there is a way to take risks, if we buy a particularly cheap altcoins, and wait until the price of BTC rises it is likely that it can give us good profits, of course it would be spectacular to have privileged information about the market to let it run in the long term, however I know different projects that many have invested and this is the moment that BTC went from $ 20k to + $ 60k and did not rise, this means that the Low volume projects that at one point were the sensation are practically dead, these types of projects are the ones to avoid.

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Quote from: Slow death on January 02, 2022, 06:30:32 PM

It's funny that when the price drops a lot and the price is low for many months, people panic and don't talk about hodl, but when the price goes up a lot people talk about hodl again and when they're already profiting, we can't ask everyone do hodl, there are people who are satisfied with day trading and others who just want to buy whenever the price drops a lot and sell whenever the price increases a lot. each person is free to apply the strategy they see fit.

Yes, this is absolutely true. everyone has a strategy in seeking profit for their lives. however, they also actually provide a pretty big advantage when we do it right. I think it's inappropriate when we compare our income in such a way. maybe some people hold on to very long periods of time because they own other assets, and people who do day trading still have some pretty pressing needs. however, if it is measured since they started trading, maybe the profit they get is also very large.
however, both are great ways to make money. As for who wins the most profit, everyone has a different outcome, because it starts with a different capital. personally, I do both, and it's quite profitable indeed. selling when prices are high as savings, and day trading to make ends meet.

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I my Personal opinion both types of hodler can get perfect benefits according this type of situation. long term hodlers have take decision and decided they will not sell any crypto when they will not reached a target price. short term hodler can predict the price and take profit at that situation so they have not take huge profit . i think you should some invest in long term coins and some money invest for a short term in day trading

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It's funny that when the price drops a lot and the price is low for many months, people panic and don't talk about hodl, but when the price goes up a lot people talk about hodl again and when they're already profiting, we can't ask everyone do hodl, there are people who are satisfied with day trading and others who just want to buy whenever the price drops a lot and sell whenever the price increases a lot. each person is free to apply the strategy they see fit.

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