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December 31, 2021, 12:00:07 PM
#71
Btc longterm holders win
Just buy Btc and you're in safe hands.
Buy without leverage.
Buy and hold, don't sell until your target will be reached.

Btc short-term traders lose.
Because Btc trading market too noisy.

Don't you think 🤔 Michael Saylor  Btc whale 🐳 invest billions of dollars 💵 in Btc and he don't use trading, because he know that all Btc speculators goes to 0 profit.


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sr. member
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December 31, 2021, 10:47:26 AM
#70
-snip-
That's right, it can be concluded here that whatever it is depends on the owner, whether it will be hold or traded. what is certain, as said, all of them require skill, knowledge and not to forget the experience in it. Some people are good at holding their coins and some people are also good at short time trading so as long as we do it well it will be mutually beneficial. In my opinion, it's that true that short-term trading is more challenging than holding because in addition to a shorter time, short-term trading also requires careful thought and analysis.
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December 31, 2021, 09:01:45 AM
#69
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The winner is who get profit. Like what people said that it is just preference, people can pick whatever way for them to gain profit. And compared 2 thing that almost same, it is not a good idea because who support holding will answer it, and for the daily trader, will answer what they think too.
Afaik, you are right, the one who wins is the one who gets the profit. No matter how lucky he is in holding Bitcoin either 10% or 20% he is still the winner. What we see today is that people who are completely unlucky are those who have never held bitcoins but can afford to own them.
Part-time traders will not be as lucky as the holders. Usually day trading is more sensitive if you apply a trading method. They even better understand the market situation at any given time, as they interact on the exchange. But only one that is often overlooked is saving CL at unexpected market times.
I think the same, for me the hodlers are the ones who have all the possible advantage, there is no other way that can be applied to carry out a better finance operation in crypto, those who are short-term traders, are constantly at huge risk of lose their money with a bad position or that they see the market in a wrong way, and if it is leveraged it is much quicker to lose money, a hodler is an investor by nature, and they usually always leave their money increasing in the long term and this is something that does not concern them.
They have both the chance, actually. Short-term traders or holders can be in profit provided that they know what they are doing and doing it well. Might say that trading is very risky but can't deny that holding is also risky especially when you hold the wrong coins, not Bitcoin or potential altcoins. We can compare which one is too risky but in terms of profit gaining, they all both have the chance and in some cases, trading is more profiting than usual holding.

It depends on everyone's ability and knowledge, because that short-term traders or holders have the same opportunity to make profit. I think for
people who have good analytical skills, being a short-term trader is much more profitable. Because it can generate profits in the short term,
but the risk is much greater. For newbies who are inexperienced, they should be holders, especially holding Bitcoin is more recommended.
Or for people who don't have much time to monitor the market and don't have good analytical skills, become holders is good choice. Most importantly
as long as holding potential coins everything will be fine, like holding Bitcoin will profit as long as we can be patient holding until the target
we want is achieved. So ask ourselves, which one is more convenient and profitable for us to do.

I agree with this statement, if a person who has great skills for short-term trading must exploit his ability, because he can turn it into money, I have friends who tell me that they do not care where the BTC goes, it can go down or It can go up, they with any direction that the BTC takes they continue to make profits, this type of ability cannot be compared to a person who has his maximum potential in investment, because he would simply lose money, because he would not know how to operate and how to react to the bear market .
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December 27, 2021, 03:55:32 PM
#68
It depends on everyone's ability and knowledge, because that short-term traders or holders have the same opportunity to make profit. I think for
people who have good analytical skills, being a short-term trader is much more profitable. Because it can generate profits in the short term,
but the risk is much greater. For newbies who are inexperienced, they should be holders, especially holding Bitcoin is more recommended.
Or for people who don't have much time to monitor the market and don't have good analytical skills, become holders is good choice. Most importantly
as long as holding potential coins everything will be fine, like holding Bitcoin will profit as long as we can be patient holding until the target
we want is achieved. So ask ourselves, which one is more convenient and profitable for us to do.
I never wait too long with my open trade when I'm in Altcoin. I think it is not wise to open a long-term trade in Altcoin, cause trading in altcoin is profitable but the risk is high here.
Most of the time after the correction period altcoin failed to recover the losses, opening a long trade in altcoin is nothing but losing your money.
For Bitcoin the I do the opposite thing, Whatever price I buy bitcoin I never sell it to loss, cause I know the price will reach the target today or tomorrow, longing your trade on Bitcoin is profitable and reliable.

Most of the altcoins are not recommended for long term investment, because usually most of the circulating altcoins are just copycats from
previous projects. So most altcoins are created just for pump and dump, especially for new projects if after experiencing a price increase,
soon it will drop drastically. After that it was very difficult to recover, therefore there were quite a lot of altcoins in my wallet and couldn't
be sold because there was no demand. So be careful if we want to invest in altcoins, if we are already profit, immediately sell the altcoins,
before there is no demand. But there are some altcoins that are safe enough for long-term investment, but very few in number, one of
which is Ethereum. The conclusion is whatever our coin choice, do research and analysis before buying it, so we can make the right decision.
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December 26, 2021, 09:38:29 AM
#67
Of course Hodler will win the most if he applies the DCA method, there are still many people who don't understand this method. Therefore, if you feel capable and know about it, try joining. The income that will be received is usually if you work as an important person in this big crypto. I'm not a hypocrite but most people would like a big salary including myself actually.
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December 26, 2021, 07:56:23 AM
#66
BTC holder- are just holder
Short-time traders - are traders

They can make a profit no matter who they are and what profession they carry. And to compare which one is more profitable? That certainly depends on how they work on their funds. And as I do both holding and trading, I could say that trading seems to be the top but it was too risky and If you were not good at this, you may lose all your money pretty quick.
And doing not that much effort, holding is the best method.

As you've said, it depends on the hard work of everyone whether you're a trader or a holder. Being a holder seems to be easy but the emotion is intense. A hardworking and wise holder, he won't stop buying, as long as he sees the entry to be good to buy, he'll buy.

In trading, it's higher risk and higher reward and you're doing it most of the time to make a profit. While in holding, it's like an accumulation not just with bitcoin but also your profit. It's a one-day payout if you sell.
And some people will choose to just HOLD because they care much about their security and are afraid of risk. But, these traders, especially pro-traders are making more profit far different from just making a profit in holding. If I am really good at trading, I'd no longer hold but rather maximize my time in trading. However, HOLDING is just like saving some funds in the future and it serves some purpose that makes people do it just like the save fiat money on the banks.
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December 25, 2021, 07:40:07 PM
#65
Sorry but hodlers who buy with dca method are the winners in this game.
Dollar cost average is by far one of the best methods many dont like it as they dont have patience.
We the people want to see results always too fast if not we not interested only few the handful can really do the buy the dips combined mixed with dca style buying.
Holding isn't always the best strategy because we have our own desire and dreams on how we wanted to make money here because while others are willing to wait for long there are someone who wanted to make profit in short term in which they wanted to risk now and gain or lose later.
this attitude applies in most of us now as Holding is far profitable in our time now, because i believe that because of the increasing of new projects the growth of Bitcoin and the adoption makes it harder while some new projects gains the interests of investors .
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December 25, 2021, 05:54:40 PM
#64
Sorry but hodlers who buy with dca method are the winners in this game.
Dollar cost average is by far one of the best methods many dont like it as they dont have patience.
We the people want to see results always too fast if not we not interested only few the handful can really do the buy the dips combined mixed with dca style buying.
Depends on how much you've been holding on because holding is something worth if you do hold much coins but if not then DCA would be the best but the question
is.. would you have those funds for you to have continous buyback whenever theres a correction or dip? Not all would really be that capable on  doing so but
for those who could then that would really be an advantage for them to do so but of course this isnt something buying back when it gets cheaper.
You would be always looking for possible bottom at least.
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December 25, 2021, 05:51:37 PM
#63
BTC holder- are just holder
Short-time traders - are traders

They can make a profit no matter who they are and what profession they carry. And to compare which one is more profitable? That certainly depends on how they work on their funds. And as I do both holding and trading, I could say that trading seems to be the top but it was too risky and If you were not good at this, you may lose all your money pretty quick.
And doing not that much effort, holding is the best method.

As you've said, it depends on the hard work of everyone whether you're a trader or a holder. Being a holder seems to be easy but the emotion is intense. A hardworking and wise holder, he won't stop buying, as long as he sees the entry to be good to buy, he'll buy.

In trading, it's higher risk and higher reward and you're doing it most of the time to make a profit. While in holding, it's like an accumulation not just with bitcoin but also your profit. It's a one-day payout if you sell.
hero member
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December 25, 2021, 05:45:41 PM
#62
BTC holder- are just holder
Short-time traders - are traders

They can make a profit no matter who they are and what profession they carry. And to compare which one is more profitable? That certainly depends on how they work on their funds. And as I do both holding and trading, I could say that trading seems to be the top but it was too risky and If you were not good at this, you may lose all your money pretty quick.
hero member
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December 25, 2021, 04:45:19 PM
#61
~snip~
Btw, many traders also can get very high profits by trading Bitcoin, and of course, they are professional traders. So do the professional holders that will also be the winners.
So, it depends on who you are and what you can do.
^ Definitely right, upon reading the heading title this is what I am thinking. It should always matter on us individually on which you are suitable between holding and short time trading. If you have a lot of knowledge in trading and you know how to calculate that analysis to make your prediction becomes accurate then short trading is just for you and if you don't have knowledge or a zero-knowledge, holding is the best for you, the holding does not require knowledge it always matter on your patience, so if you think you are not capable on trading then holding is good for you.
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December 25, 2021, 04:35:48 PM
#60
I cannot say that all holders with DCA methods are the winners, and others are losers, or even traders are losers.
We should see the cases, moreover personal cases.
Holding is about the patient. Not all people even holding with DCA method has big patient. And commonly they are the ones who have a high willingness to hold for a long-term investment.
Every decision will have risks, so does holding with even the DCA method. We even don't know when is the dipping price, even we are buying BTC at several rates, we may also lose some money if we are not patient in order to take profits or we are in several urgent conditions to sell the coins.
Moreover, we may also not be sure enough when the price will rise up again, it may be the next bullish era in which will probably happen after 5 years later or others.

Btw, many traders also can get very high profits by trading Bitcoin, and of course, they are professional traders. So do the professional holders that will also be the winners.
So, it depends on who you are and what you can do.
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December 25, 2021, 03:12:01 PM
#59
Sorry but hodlers who buy with dca method are the winners in this game.
Dollar cost average is by far one of the best methods many dont like it as they dont have patience.
We the people want to see results always too fast if not we not interested only few the handful can really do the buy the dips combined mixed with dca style buying.

I believe that both holders and short-term traders can make money with BTC however there are some differences. For example, in order to become a BTC holder now and have excellent profit in the future, provided the price of BTC rises, you need to invest a large amount of money in BTC, but what if there is no such money? Then you should probably try yourself in BTC trading, which, in principle, many do. I believe that in this case, some can win that others, however, provided that they know how the crypto market works and they have some experience, without this there is a chance to lose everything.
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December 25, 2021, 02:45:05 PM
#58
It depends on the trader, the amount of capital invested in and where the money is invested in. Yes long term will obviously bring huge profits when its with Bitcoin. And we can even make a reasonable profits from altcoins on short term as well but yes it is a matter of which alt coin and how much is invested and yes how the trader handles it according to the market move. An experienced trader can make profits on short term with patience.

It depends if the hold holder bought at the price where its just cents. Someone how bought ADA at $0.02 I guess is making lots of money still even after this fails more than 50% already. If you have bought SOL or ETH at $5 still is a big profit depending on the capital.

I would prefer to actually hold the tokens that I can stake and still have the growth of money as you sleep. Somehow I have some of these tokens that I bought at such price and staking but still prefer to have BTC.
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December 25, 2021, 02:18:47 PM
#57
It depends on the trader, the amount of capital invested in and where the money is invested in. Yes long term will obviously bring huge profits when its with Bitcoin. And we can even make a reasonable profits from altcoins on short term as well but yes it is a matter of which alt coin and how much is invested and yes how the trader handles it according to the market move. An experienced trader can make profits on short term with patience.
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December 25, 2021, 01:05:52 PM
#56
I think the same, for me the hodlers are the ones who have all the possible advantage, there is no other way that can be applied to carry out a better finance operation in crypto, those who are short-term traders, are constantly at huge risk of lose their money with a bad position or that they see the market in a wrong way, and if it is leveraged it is much quicker to lose money, a hodler is an investor by nature, and they usually always leave their money increasing in the long term and this is something that does not concern them.
They have both the chance, actually. Short-term traders or holders can be in profit provided that they know what they are doing and doing it well. Might say that trading is very risky but can't deny that holding is also risky especially when you hold the wrong coins, not Bitcoin or potential altcoins. We can compare which one is too risky but in terms of profit gaining, they all both have the chance and in some cases, trading is more profiting than usual holding.
It depends on everyone's ability and knowledge, because that short-term traders or holders have the same opportunity to make profit. I think for
people who have good analytical skills, being a short-term trader is much more profitable. Because it can generate profits in the short term,
but the risk is much greater. For newbies who are inexperienced, they should be holders, especially holding Bitcoin is more recommended.
Or for people who don't have much time to monitor the market and don't have good analytical skills, become holders is good choice. Most importantly
as long as holding potential coins everything will be fine, like holding Bitcoin will profit as long as we can be patient holding until the target
we want is achieved. So ask ourselves, which one is more convenient and profitable for us to do.

I never wait too long with my open trade when I'm in Altcoin. I think it is not wise to open a long-term trade in Altcoin, cause trading in altcoin is profitable but the risk is high here.
Most of the time after the correction period altcoin failed to recover the losses, opening a long trade in altcoin is nothing but losing your money.
For Bitcoin the I do the opposite thing, Whatever price I buy bitcoin I never sell it to loss, cause I know the price will reach the target today or tomorrow, longing your trade on Bitcoin is profitable and reliable.
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December 25, 2021, 10:26:19 AM
#55
BTC is expensive coin everyone can't afford it to buy and trade it. And bitcoin is for long term holders. People brought BTC in 2011 and now they are millionaire. And they still hold BTC. But here is many of other coin for short time trade. Everyone can buy and trade them easily.
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December 24, 2021, 02:20:32 PM
#54
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The winner is who get profit. Like what people said that it is just preference, people can pick whatever way for them to gain profit. And compared 2 thing that almost same, it is not a good idea because who support holding will answer it, and for the daily trader, will answer what they think too.
Afaik, you are right, the one who wins is the one who gets the profit. No matter how lucky he is in holding Bitcoin either 10% or 20% he is still the winner. What we see today is that people who are completely unlucky are those who have never held bitcoins but can afford to own them.
Part-time traders will not be as lucky as the holders. Usually day trading is more sensitive if you apply a trading method. They even better understand the market situation at any given time, as they interact on the exchange. But only one that is often overlooked is saving CL at unexpected market times.
I think the same, for me the hodlers are the ones who have all the possible advantage, there is no other way that can be applied to carry out a better finance operation in crypto, those who are short-term traders, are constantly at huge risk of lose their money with a bad position or that they see the market in a wrong way, and if it is leveraged it is much quicker to lose money, a hodler is an investor by nature, and they usually always leave their money increasing in the long term and this is something that does not concern them.
They have both the chance, actually. Short-term traders or holders can be in profit provided that they know what they are doing and doing it well. Might say that trading is very risky but can't deny that holding is also risky especially when you hold the wrong coins, not Bitcoin or potential altcoins. We can compare which one is too risky but in terms of profit gaining, they all both have the chance and in some cases, trading is more profiting than usual holding.

It depends on everyone's ability and knowledge, because that short-term traders or holders have the same opportunity to make profit. I think for
people who have good analytical skills, being a short-term trader is much more profitable. Because it can generate profits in the short term,
but the risk is much greater. For newbies who are inexperienced, they should be holders, especially holding Bitcoin is more recommended.
Or for people who don't have much time to monitor the market and don't have good analytical skills, become holders is good choice. Most importantly
as long as holding potential coins everything will be fine, like holding Bitcoin will profit as long as we can be patient holding until the target
we want is achieved. So ask ourselves, which one is more convenient and profitable for us to do.
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December 24, 2021, 01:22:47 PM
#53
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The winner is who get profit. Like what people said that it is just preference, people can pick whatever way for them to gain profit. And compared 2 thing that almost same, it is not a good idea because who support holding will answer it, and for the daily trader, will answer what they think too.

Afaik, you are right, the one who wins is the one who gets the profit. No matter how lucky he is in holding Bitcoin either 10% or 20% he is still the winner. What we see today is that people who are completely unlucky are those who have never held bitcoins but can afford to own them.
Part-time traders will not be as lucky as the holders. Usually day trading is more sensitive if you apply a trading method. They even better understand the market situation at any given time, as they interact on the exchange. But only one that is often overlooked is saving CL at unexpected market times.

I think the same, for me the hodlers are the ones who have all the possible advantage, there is no other way that can be applied to carry out a better finance operation in crypto, those who are short-term traders, are constantly at huge risk of lose their money with a bad position or that they see the market in a wrong way, and if it is leveraged it is much quicker to lose money, a hodler is an investor by nature, and they usually always leave their money increasing in the long term and this is something that does not concern them.

They have both the chance, actually. Short-term traders or holders can be in profit provided that they know what they are doing and doing it well. Might say that trading is very risky but can't deny that holding is also risky especially when you hold the wrong coins, not Bitcoin or potential altcoins. We can compare which one is too risky but in terms of profit gaining, they all both have the chance and in some cases, trading is more profiting than usual holding.
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December 24, 2021, 01:02:53 PM
#52
Sorry but hodlers who buy with dca method are the winners in this game.
Dollar cost average is by far one of the best methods many dont like it as they dont have patience.
We the people want to see results always too fast if not we not interested only few the handful can really do the buy the dips combined mixed with dca style buying.
The winner is who get profit. Like what people said that it is just preference, people can pick whatever way for them to gain profit. And compared 2 thing that almost same, it is not a good idea because who support holding will answer it, and for the daily trader, will answer what they think too.

Afaik, you are right, the one who wins is the one who gets the profit. No matter how lucky he is in holding Bitcoin either 10% or 20% he is still the winner. What we see today is that people who are completely unlucky are those who have never held bitcoins but can afford to own them.
Part-time traders will not be as lucky as the holders. Usually day trading is more sensitive if you apply a trading method. They even better understand the market situation at any given time, as they interact on the exchange. But only one that is often overlooked is saving CL at unexpected market times.

I think the same, for me the hodlers are the ones who have all the possible advantage, there is no other way that can be applied to carry out a better finance operation in crypto, those who are short-term traders, are constantly at huge risk of lose their money with a bad position or that they see the market in a wrong way, and if it is leveraged it is much quicker to lose money, a hodler is an investor by nature, and they usually always leave their money increasing in the long term and this is something that does not concern them.
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