Topic: Btc hodlers vs short time traders - page 4. (Read 860 times)

In fact, even if, for some reason, you're a sociopath and absolutely impervious to emotion, DCA frees you up to live a regular life. This means building a career, or pursuing a hobby, or fine-tuning a talent, or growing a family... whatever it is you'd have been doing if you didn't know about Bitcoin.

I think too many people "get into Bitcoin" and it consumes their life. Good for them, good for all, but many of these guys "get in" with the wrong expectation. Thinking they can learn enough to outsmart the rest of the market.

DCA just means you make yourself useful as you otherwise would, while at the same not missing out on the biggest financial opportunity in our lifetime.

Both have their advantages and disadvantages. I guess there shouldn't be an issue of which is better than which because we have different preferences and strategies in making money in crypto. We also have different financial capabilities and status in which play a great role too as to why is someone is into either the long term or short term.

If you are capable of having your money invested for the long term because you have other means to generate income to sustain your daily needs, wants and maintain the lifestyle that you have, then good for you. Investing for the long term is proven to be effective most especially using the DCA method which is investing something, then forgetting about it so that your funds would profit over time. Those people who are into the long term personally have a strong sense of trust in the coin they invested in because waiting is such a challenge most especially if you witness the trend whenever the bearish market enters. Long-term holding isn't for the faint-hearted people. It is intended for those people who are patient and wise. There are man people who actually want to invest for the long term, however, some of them don't just have the means to stuck up their funds for a long time. Hence, they do the other method which is investing for the short term which is not a bad idea at all. In fact, it is also a good way to earn some funds.

Meanwhile, short-term investing is ideal for those people who aren't really patient enough to wait for their money to profit over time, as well as for those people who lack funds to invest in crypto. Others just really prefer to do short-term investment and trading because the money circulates easily in buying and selling methods. This type of work requires a broad knowledge of crypto. Perfect timing and technical analysis on when to buy and sell is also necessary.

If you do either or both of the two, it's all good. Just do what you are comfortable in doing. After all, it will still generate money, the only difference is the time it will be harvested.

DCA is better than not having any bitcoin at all. If we are to expect S2F or other exponential models to play out, then it follows that DCA of bitcoin will be supremely intelligent compared to other investment strategies over the long run. I hold BTC and continue to DCA satoshis regularly. DCA is simply a way to avoid FOMO or panic-selling.

As traders, we will choose what method can help us make a profit because that is the main goal for every trader involved in trading. If they prefer to use short-term trading and can analyze better than a long-term trader, that will not be a problem because every target will know what they need to do. A long-term trader will not feel jealous of the profit because they can also profit in the long term. They choose to be long-term traders for many reasons, but most of them do not have much time to analyze the market, so they decide to be long-term traders. It will be back to the trader itself, which way they will trade.

In my opinion, this is not the standard. btc holders with any method or short traders each have their advantages, it's just that there are different methods between short trades and holders.
but the opportunity for btc holders is greater because long-term holders usually buy at low prices and make profits when prices increase in the future.
but for the DCA method I'm still not sure and still doubt the capacity of the method

I tend to agree with this statement, but I don't know why there were too many risk taker investors, they want to make a profit in just a short period of time, and most commonly those coins that recently have a hype due to the manipulation of price while others even choose to invest in meme coin which doesn't have really a use.  Why?  Because they want to make a profit in just a week or months knowing that it could that's a trap and you will end up losing your investment.

I also prefer holding which is a good decision.  Though the process of earning money is quite long to happen at least the risk isn't that huge as we invested into altcoins or trading altcoins.

Yeah its true that it doesnt really matter whether you are a holder or a short time trader because what matter most on here is on getting profits and this is where people do really differs on decisions and things

to do because we do differ in experience and skills when it comes  to trading and what matter most on here is that we should know and do all sorts of things as long we could make out profits.

So its up to someones choice whether they do chose as a hodler or a short term trader as long you do make out profits then thats whats important.

They might in some instances like if they use their funds wisely and just make trades with potential coins. This is very common to impatient people, short-term trade is what they prepared but of course, it was profiting. They are more comfortable doing this and they felt winning against long-term traders. Well, does is not the problem as traders/investors or anyone will choose those things that it makes easier for them without the struggles to hold longer than they can do.

I'm not literally to say that they are winning, that is actually the strategy they use and it was fine and working well for them. And they continue doing this.

There was an article that I read that 97% of beginner traders lose their money on the process of their first trading experience, while the other 3% earned as much as a bank teller. It goes to show the complicated system and complex ideas that are needed in trading in order to profit. While there may be experienced traders, there are also newbie traders who lost most of their resources due to impulsiveness.

HODLing may be considered one of the better ways of investing. If you prefer not to do any hassle task, then this method may work either short or long-term since you only need to be aware of the initial investment you entered, while cashing out the excess- which would yield to profit.

Afaik, you are right, the one who wins is the one who gets the profit. No matter how lucky he is in holding Bitcoin either 10% or 20% he is still the winner. What we see today is that people who are completely unlucky are those who have never held bitcoins but can afford to own them.
Part-time traders will not be as lucky as the holders. Usually day trading is more sensitive if you apply a trading method. They even better understand the market situation at any given time, as they interact on the exchange. But only one that is often overlooked is saving CL at unexpected market times.

ah the winner is the short term trader ,strategy using DCA method is only really successful if the price has exceeded the target ,it can also take years to make a profit ! while short terms traders make quick profits ! there is someone who uses the DCA strategy but after the price is high he doesn't sell his assets and loses that's moment while short terms takes every lucky moment !

I think,, Holders and Short traders will both benefit from it if they know proper knowledge and skill and how to use method. Holders and traders both can get profit but both are different method. I think bitcoin holders will get good profit From his holding BTC.Coz BTC is most valuable coin in The narket.I hope bitcoin price Will be more increase in 2022.

holders or scalpers will both benefit if they know how to use the method. Holders with a DCA system may benefit from using capital gradually to buy at deep prices.
For scalping, it can also be profitable by making fast trades, but also with large capital so that the profits are more and each time the order gets maximum results.
Each method will have advantages and disadvantages of each, so it depends on how it is used and the suitability of the method.

The winner is who get profit. Like what people said that it is just preference, people can pick whatever way for them to gain profit. And compared 2 thing that almost same, it is not a good idea because who support holding will answer it, and for the daily trader, will answer what they think too.

There are only two ways to earn a decent profit, HODL (easy) and Trading (hard way).
And it doesn't matter which one you choose, it's important that you know the basics well and understand the risks.
Becoming a holder is the best and safe way and has a small risk although in my opinion there is no risk of loss, I mean as long as the price is still not satisfactory or it goes down it doesn't matter because as long as the price has not reached the desired target, the holder will continue to hold it even if they have to wait years.
the risk of becoming a holder is not loss but time and strong patience.
Becoming a profitable trade takes a long time to master because trading is not an easy job and you also have to do it full time and also risk losing if it's not right and profit depends on your capital.

I don't seem to agree more that hodlers benefit more than traders. For me, its a matter of what your better at and really find to be convenient for you.

Yeah, hodling is about a lot of patience but then, a trader ain't about the patience but, to make some bucks out of every move or opportunity in the market. Hence, timing is of the essence, a timing a hodler is accorded the luxury.

Given the same amount of coins to both a hodler and a trader, a trader has the opportunity of making the most of it if experienced enough to trade the market with minimal loses becuase, loses do come around. A hodler might not go through any of them risk of loose few Sats but, he's only element is time. A time both parties have but, the trader takes the risk to increase hodlings by trading.

agree, they have different method and task to be completed. holder just stay calm with their coin, wait until their the price reach what they want. trader cant be calm like holder, they always monitoring every coin move, like 'where i can take my profit'.
they all have different value, and method.

I fully agree with you, the investors who bought over the last few years regularly bitcoins and held them made the most return. Sure when you see the price chart and you would have always bought below 35,000 USD and sold above 60,000  would have made a much higher return. But how do you know the levels before hand? We can't. After the rally at the start of the year I told myself if BTC ever drops below 20,000 USD again I would sell all my stocks and investment funds and would buy bitcoins. Unfortunately it didn't drop so low. Just holding is the best approach in my opinion.

Yeah, I hear you, but this might not work for those that don't have monthly or weekly paycheck. You can consistently DCA when you know that pay is coming in regularly during that time of the week/Month and you can set aside a % for your DCA. One time Buy when you have the opportunity isn't that bad as well however, timing matters in investment so as to be able to leverage on the price but the overall aim is to HODL whether you DCA or you buy in one lump.

Yeah, I'm with you mate. Hodlers may seem to benefit in either ways especially the situation we are now in and it is much more safe because bitcoin hodlers aren't affected when the market is being bullish or any dips at all. Instead, in every correction and recovery they're always in the 1st row to benefit it.
Unlike short traders, they always depend on every situation wether it's good or bad because that's the way how they benefit from it, though it's sometimes be more profitable than hodlers but the stress and pressure is always there when you're a trader and it's much more riskier.